George Floyd's Death, Protests and Riots across the US

This brings up a compelling question for this forum:

If radical, armed thugs show up at our homes to either vandalize or take away our home in order to "repurpose" the property as they see fit: what are we to do? Especially if police activity is already curtailed, and a call to 911 is no longer effective?

How can one any longer say to oneself: "this is not about us. We cannot let ourselves be manipulated in this way."

So, how do people here feel about this? Are you considering arming yourselves so you can protect your home and your family? If not, how are you thinking about such a possible turn of events?

This is pretty frightening stuff.

This is a question I have been wondering for a while. I don't know if I could take a life even when threatened but I sure don't want to die by another's hand either. With my 70 year old roommate and all the animals living here, I would protect them though. My dad's left his gun to me and my rommie has her own little 22 so I have been prepared in that aspect but I am not mentally prepared to use it.
 
I want to share something. I apologize if it has nothing to do with the thread. (But as it looks that way). I wanted to listen to some music, I went to one of my favorite online stations, to relieve the stress of having the TV at home all day generating chaos and fear... and it seems like the universe is saying something... or some algorithm, who knows. That is, as soon as I opened the website it was the first thing that came up.the signs.jpg
 
With my 70 year old roommate and all the animals living here, I would protect them though. My dad's left his gun to me and my rommie has her own little 22 so I have been prepared in that aspect but I am not mentally prepared to use it.
And I think there’s the rub. It’s one thing to own a weapon, but another to know how to wield it well and ensure that it doesn’t get used against you. I remember Stefan Verstappen talking about prepping needing to include ways and means of protecting oneself. So it’s really a tricky question indeed, how far do you go to protect yourself?

Here in Australia, there have been protests in major cities but so far no violence/looting/arson as far as I know. That video of Avi Yemeni posted by Jones a few pages back shows the utter ignorance and bias of most of the people headed to the protests. I’ve no doubt there’ll be more twist and turns in the latter half if this year. They’re already talking about a ‘second wave’ of COVID here because of the rallies, so fun times ahead!
 
This is a question I have been wondering for a while. I don't know if I could take a life even when threatened but I sure don't want to die by another's hand either. With my 70 year old roommate and all the animals living here, I would protect them though. My dad's left his gun to me and my rommie has her own little 22 so I have been prepared in that aspect but I am not mentally prepared to use it.
Yes, that's a good point. Even if you happen to have a gun at home, are you mentally prepared to use it if it came to that? Have you or your roommate ever even fired these guns -- hunting, or at a shooting range?

One wonders too when/if gun shops will open again since -- surprise surprise -- guns were not considered "essential" once the lockdown happened. Although there was a run on guns an ammo just prior to that. In America, I'm speaking about.
 
One wonders too when/if gun shops will open again since -- surprise surprise -- guns were not considered "essential" once the lockdown happened. Although there was a run on guns an ammo just prior to that. In America, I'm speaking about.
It depends on where you live. I've been told the gun shop South of me about 20 miles has been open and busy the entire time of lockdown.
 
It depends on where you live. I've been told the gun shop South of me about 20 miles has been open and busy the entire time of lockdown.
Interesting. Do you happen to live in the South? I live in upstate New York, and although New York is a blue state, upstate is largely red -- but still no gun shops are open here, or sporting goods stores that sell guns. At least in my area.
 
Someone here speculated how 'they' would try to lure other ethnic groups to join the rioting. Well, I think they've just started this sequel of the PSYOP. Here's one recent example, a video where a lady is making racist and rude comments towards an (apparently) Asian man. Immediately as I saw this headline and the thumbnail of that lady, I thought that there's a high chance that this scene is staged and a hoax to bait the Asians. Well, you can judge for yourselves, but after watching the video I do think that this is theatre, or at the very least, someone encouraged or paid that lady to say those things, maybe even giving her a script. The give away, I think, is when she says "You're so f*****, this is from your government, this is from your government". Plus, she doesn't seem genuinely upset or angry.

I could of course be off, and the lady is just plain crazy. :cool2:

 
RE: guns and thugs with ill intent

Everyone in my household knows how to use a shotgun and we've discussed what can happen if you miss (i.e. the neighbors might not like stray rounds in their living room). When the rumors were flying about where the rioters were targeting next, my wife asked me to leave a loaded weapon in the living room...I gave her some #8 birdshot to use if necessary. Thankfully the rumors were just that but still - unsettling.

I live in redneck country usa and the gun shops have been open and busy the whole time though ammo was scarce for a while (as was toilet paper). Went to the public range the morning after the Minnesota rioting began and was in awe of the firepower displayed while I was there (that range is typically not very busy).

My primary reason for owning guns is to occasionally shoot clay pigeons (used to hunt some when I was younger too) but I will defend myself & others if necessary.
 
I think the point you've been missing, SOTTREADER, is that the "demonstrators in Germany" Nachtweide has mentioned were mostly born later than 1980 into a society where heaping historical guilt on young people is the primary instrument of control ever since 1945.

Her sentence "There are no perpetrators in Germany because we knew neither a racist problem nor slavery" is obviously directed at the situation in present-day Germany (knowing that her family only migrated to this country in the 1960's).

I think she didn't state that Germany did not have a history 'around racism'.

While I must commend you for meticulously exploring the colonial history of the Prussian/German Empire I think it is fair to say that before the migration waves starting in the 1990s there was no racist problem in Germany because there was no race other than one.

Leftist German educators and media will of course fiercely deny that because they have convinced themselves that all Germans are innately racist, which a large portion of young people may actually believe.
Since the abolition of slavery, the Americans have not really solved the problem of racial discrimination to date, it is systemic racism. Systemic racism is also a European problem. All states that used to rule over others and become rich with them, somewhere in street names, museums and palaces, retain the memory of a golden age that was bloody for other people. Racism is part of Europe's cultural identity, a deeply rooted evil. The European way to modernity was not possible without colonial exploitation. In contrast to Germany, which is still forced by the whole world to process its past every minute and make amends, this process did not take place in most countries. The refusal to process the story is also the fear of the truth. Society's deeply rooted racism and racially motivated police violence are leading to collective repression.

The racism that can be observed in Germany today has little to do with the pure racial teaching of the National Socialists. He assumes a different basic assumption. This is mainly due to the fact that the term racism in Germany is closely linked to the racial ideology of the National Socialists.
The National Socialists believed that humanity could be divided into different races. They distinguished two races that were said to be incompatible: the Aryans and the Jews.
In their view, the Aryans also had the right to annihilate the Jews. The National Socialists believed that this was the only way to maintain the quality of the Aryans and develop humanity higher.

According to this, people cannot be classified as inferior and higher-quality races, but they can be assigned to diverse cultures and religions. It is a kind of racism without racial thinking and racial struggle but rather a cultural struggle. In Germany, the new cultural racism manifests itself above all in a hostility towards members of Islam. This does not propagate racial struggle, but a cultural struggle. A foreign culture cannot break into a country to change the culture of that country. This immediately leads to rejection and resistance. There is a fundamental difference. Am I a master in the house and pursue a minority or other race to exploit or harm it? Or is it that another breed comes to your country that is given a special status by our legal system and that strangers are better off than the native citizen? In the latter case, the system itself provokes cultural hatred rather than the citizen himself. The issue would be justice. There was no racial hatred in Germany after the refugee crisis in 2016, the refugees were welcomed with flags and flowers to show them that they were welcome. Anger only emerged when it became apparent that there were major social injustices at the expense of the citizens. I think it was planned and wanted by the state as well.

Anti-Semitism also still exists in Germany. It is simply wrong to take actions by today's Nazi supporters or very few attacks on Jewish people as an occasion for anti-Semitism to rise again in Germany. This has been shown by the government and the Jewish groups in Germany for years. It is precisely this behavior that fuels the anger of the citizen. To interpret the behavior of a small racist minority as an overall opinion is an unqualified generalization.
 
RE: guns and thugs with ill intent

Everyone in my household knows how to use a shotgun and we've discussed what can happen if you miss (i.e. the neighbors might not like stray rounds in their living room). When the rumors were flying about where the rioters were targeting next, my wife asked me to leave a loaded weapon in the living room...I gave her some #8 birdshot to use if necessary. Thankfully the rumors were just that but still - unsettling.

I live in redneck country usa and the gun shops have been open and busy the whole time though ammo was scarce for a while (as was toilet paper). Went to the public range the morning after the Minnesota rioting began and was in awe of the firepower displayed while I was there (that range is typically not very busy).

My primary reason for owning guns is to occasionally shoot clay pigeons (used to hunt some when I was younger too) but I will defend myself & others if necessary.
That's another good point: people unaccustomed to using a gun missing their target, and accidentally shooting into a neighbor's house. Good grief!

So, it seems red states kept their gun shops open then.
 
I thought I’d share some propaganda that is becoming more and more popular throughout social media right now. Basically the narrative is that white people need re-education on racial inequality, their privilege and inherent racism. I’ve seen now the same propaganda everywhere but just reformatted for different audiences. Even a “workshop” was posted on one of my local expat groups, a year long workshop on “educating” white people about these “issues”, with the goal that they will then go out and educate others. I was utterly shocked to see multiple people I interact with in real life asking to join. In truth I’m seeing very little to zero resistance especially on fb and Instagram. If there is any they are told to stay in their lane and listen. If someone says “I care about your issue but in our country we have a different issue”, everyone mobs that individual with “sit down and wait your turn”, they are even often called racist just for not agreeing to follow these commands.

Anyway here is a post I just came across on Instagram that is a prime example of this propaganda.

 
So, it seems red states kept their gun shops open then.
Oregon is mostly red, but urban areas push it blue. The gun shops are open.

Willamette Week said:
When Gov. Kate Brown shut down businesses across the state during the COVID-19 outbreak, she wanted clarity about who could be open and who had to close.

But Brown also avoided a culture war.

While other states have created a list of essential businesses that are allowed to stay open, Brown opted to list places that must close. Not on that list: gun shops.

 
It is quite possible that my perspective on racism is completely wrong. I also feel that it is very difficult for me to get into this topic because I cannot really feel it and there is no personal connection to it for me. On the one hand, it can be due to the fact that I personally never exclude people on the basis of origin, race or cultural lifestyle. I was never personally affected either, so I cannot judge how a person affected judges this topic. In my environment, my foreign friends tend to be rejected because of their culture and religion, but they do not refer to racial hatred in the sense of National Socialism.
In connection with the topic of racism, I became aware that educating people on the COVID topic is so unsuccessful. If there is no internal reference or insufficient knowledge, it is very easy to misjudge a situation. In the sense of: what sounds plausible will be right.
I can only rate such issues as racism emotionally with my sadness that people are harmed. Perhaps my emotional brain is in command here that sometimes many bad things simply do not want to accept or analyze. So sorry for the noise…. 🙈
 
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