How are you feeling?

[Ryan]

Just remember that the sex topic is not all doom and gloom as depicted in earlier sessions you quoted when Laura was working with Frank.
It was discussed in the forum and this post knd of summaries it.

I can imagine how difficult it is to contol it when a person is single but just keep doing The Work an be aware of the drive and maybe that drive to find the right person (that is in us all) can make you become/transform into a best possible version of yourself so you could be a better partner and a better fellow human being.

Well said, Mari. Two thoughts on this topic:

Firstly, note that the C's have emphasised that 4D STS feed on pesky emotions such as fear, sadness, anger etc. Yet, most of the orgasms people are having around the world are unlikely to be experienced in such a way. Sex is overwhelmingly a pleasurable and positive experience, assuming its natural expression. So why would this energy be 'feeding' 4D STS? Note this subtle answer in the session excerpt Natus Videre quoted:

Q: (L) Does the energy go to one or the other partner?
A: Maybe.

The context of the other questions in this excerpt was regarding draining of energy, and the feeding of negative entities. So the C's have coyly thrown a little "out" in response to Laura's question ie. in some contexts, the energy DOES go to one or the other partner.

Perhaps this context is determined by the emotions experienced during the act? So if a person's inner attitude towards sex is messed up by negative programming, porn etc, and they then have sex, the energy is of a more suitable frequency to be consumed by negative entities. Whereas if they have a purely (or mostly pure) positive attitude towards sex, and they then have sex, the energies are exchanged between two people for each other's benefit, making the act an STO one, and amplifying each other's STO polarity.

Of course, getting to the stage of having a purely (or mostly pure) positive attitude towards sex is nowhere near as simple as it sounds, given the amount of programming people are subjected to on the topic, pretty much from birth. Could this be the reason why? 4D STS certainly wouldn't want such a natural and popular human activity feeding the STO polarity en masse.

The second thought relates to Gurdjieff's famous quote that, "nothing shows up the true nature of a person more than their attitude to money". I think a person's attitude to sex is even more revealing.

 

[msasa79]

Well said, Mari. Two thoughts on this topic:

Firstly, note that the C's have emphasised that 4D STS feed on pesky emotions such as fear, sadness, anger etc. Yet, most of the orgasms people are having around the world are unlikely to be experienced in such a way. Sex is overwhelmingly a pleasurable and positive experience, assuming its natural expression. So why would this energy be 'feeding' 4D STS? Note this subtle answer in the session excerpt Natus Videre quoted:

The context of the other questions in this excerpt was regarding draining of energy, and the feeding of negative entities. So the C's have coyly thrown a little "out" in response to Laura's question ie. in some contexts, the energy DOES go to one or the other partner.

Perhaps this context is determined by the emotions experienced during the act? So if a person's inner attitude towards sex is messed up by negative programming, porn etc, and they then have sex, the energy is of a more suitable frequency to be consumed by negative entities. Whereas if they have a purely (or mostly pure) positive attitude towards sex, and they then have sex, the energies are exchanged between two people for each other's benefit, making the act an STO one, and amplifying each other's STO polarity.

Of course, getting to the stage of having a purely (or mostly pure) positive attitude towards sex is nowhere near as simple as it sounds, given the amount of programming people are subjected to on the topic, pretty much from birth. Could this be the reason why? 4D STS certainly wouldn't want such a natural and popular human activity feeding the STO polarity en masse.

The second thought relates to Gurdjieff's famous quote that, "nothing shows up the true nature of a person more than their attitude to money". I think a person's attitude to sex is even more revealing.

I think it might be even simpler:
If the underlying attitude of any involved party is of STS nature, either consciously or unconsciously/subconsciously, i.e. 'pleasure' for and/or aggrandizement of the self, which is only natural in the STS realm, then by default of being part of the STS hierarchical structure, the created/released and exchanged energies end up being 'piped up' or transferred to the STS overlords.

If, on the other hand, all involved parties are doing it 'for the others', without even anticipating anything for the self out of it, coupled with 'freely given, freely received' exchange, then maybe, just maybe we might be considering a STO type of interaction. OSIT.

 

[Scottie]

Perhaps this context is determined by the emotions experienced during the act? So if a person's inner attitude towards sex is messed up by negative programming, porn etc, and they then have sex, the energy is of a more suitable frequency to be consumed by negative entities.

And I think it's safe to say pretty much everyone is "messed up" in this way. So, why can't a simpler goal be to learn to express love for another person and share in all ways, including physically where possible/appropriate?

Giving with ZERO expectation of a return is very, very hard to do. There are so many psychological traps (see below). Well, okay, but here's another more positive possibility: Two people are mutually giving to the other. You give to me, I give to you. Sure, we have expectations. But whatever! We share, and the mutual sharing ends up strengthening both people in various ways. Then, where is the energy loss?

Plus, in the case of sexual exchange, a child is often created. So propagating the species is a massive 4D STS energy sucking operation? Well, I certainly can see how it would be, but that's pretty bleak for a process that results in childbirth, which many women report as downright spiritual or mystical (as well as physical, painful, etc). I think the whole thing is probably far more complex and nuanced than we usually think.

Of course, getting to the stage of having a purely (or mostly pure) positive attitude towards sex is nowhere near as simple as it sounds, given the amount of programming people are subjected to on the topic, pretty much from birth.

Yeah. And then you can worry so much about if you're "doing it right" that you end up never doing it at all, ever - not because you're so holy, but because you're terrified of not being holy enough. Which is not STO at all, because it's all about you and what you will (or will not) "get" if you're "good".

And that's just one particular variation among many different programs/hurdles!

Isn't this fun?

 

[msasa79]

Yeah. And then you can worry so much about if you're "doing it right" that you end up never doing it at all, ever - not because you're so holy, but because you're terrified of not being holy enough. Which is not STO at all, because it's all about you and what you will (or will not) "get" if you're "good".

And that's just one particular variation among many different programs/hurdles!

Isn't this fun?

Ditto!

And of course it's fun, as every learning is fun, according to the C's. That we don't see and experience it always like that, well, another pair of shoes, as said in these parts of the woods, i.e. we just need some more time yet to learn to see it being the fun that it is.
And ain't that fun too?

 

[Ravintsara]

This is my third year developing my little hillside farm, which mostly feels like a meaningful thing to be doing in these times. Now all my goats are bred, and I’m sawing lumber from my forest to improve and restore the buildings here. There’s not a lot of money in this, but I get by, and am happy that I don’t have to live in an urban environment.

My deep down day dream. Very contradictary with my life choices and especially my skills so far, but I still tend to imagine myself in such a setting when I think about what I would ideally love to do/be.

 

[Alejo]

And I think it's safe to say pretty much everyone is "messed up" in this way. So, why can't a simpler goal be to learn to express love for another person and share in all ways, including physically where possible/appropriate?

Yep, and I do think that the least we can aim for, and perhaps most honorable before embarking in a task of cleaning up the sexual expressing machine is to be honest with the self about that messed-up-ness, essentially being honest about what is being expressed and where it comes from, the drives and the needs and what they mean and so on.. be honest about that with yourself so that you may have a chance at doing something about it.

I think lying to oneself, or at least ignoring those aspects of oneself, is probably the worst thing and one of the reasons why 4D STS finds it as such a great source of energy, I think.

Yet, most of the orgasms people are having around the world are unlikely to be experienced in such a way. Sex is overwhelmingly a pleasurable and positive experience, assuming its natural expression.

I'm not sure about this though, and this is probably a subject for another thread altogether, but when one really thinks about it, it's impossible to determine what most orgasms in the world mean (we're talking probably billions a day!), pleasurable? technically yes... but positive, that is difficult to determine and who knows, maybe not.

I do hope that most of those are creative, and loving, I actually sincerely do, heaven knows the world could use more love, there's enough misery as it is without factoring in sex, though I digress. But chances are that with everything that goes on in the world, a lot of them are about so many other things, some probably really dark. And even without going too dark, some of them are about lonely and confused individuals.

I do not say the above to bring the conversation down at all, or to discourage sex as a sin, not at all. I don't mean to, I actually bring it up to highlight the importance, in my view, of making love as an expression of being the change you want to see in the world, not that you should make finding a sexual partner your life goal, more... if it is part of your life, now or in the future, then it may be a good idea to ensure it's as loving as you can, without pretending to be something you're not, so love within your capacities, as sincerely as you can, and with the limitations that this reality imposes on all of us.

And I don't think that this means that it has to be super passionate or romantic or look a certain way, I think it's more like, ensure that it is an expression of something true within yourself, that you give to someone else sincerely, and what that looks like in practice? well, it's impossible to know, but it is unique in every occasion methinks.

 

[Navigator]

Plus, in the case of sexual exchange, a child is often created. So propagating the species is a massive 4D STS energy sucking operation? Well, I certainly can see how it would be, but that's pretty bleak for a process that results in childbirth, which many women report as downright spiritual or mystical (as well as physical, painful, etc). I think the whole thing is probably far more complex and nuanced than we usually think.

Yeah, it reminds me a bit of this:

September 23, 2023

Q: (L) But we know 4D STS makes babies in labs because they do it in underground bases. Is that it?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Are they unable to procreate physically among themselves?
A: Yes
Q: (L) That was unable, right? They are unable?
A: Yes
Q: (L) And that's why you've previously said that their race was dying and they're seeking to...
(Joe) Or tinkering by getting DNA from us and who knows where else to make the perfect...
(L) Is part of the reason they can't procreate because they're so, what would you call it... entropic?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Well, they disconnected from a source of creative energy or something like that?
A: Yes

I think it has to be more nuanced, as this implies that this creative energy comes directly from God/The One/7th Density. I'd say a part (maybe a big part?) of procreation has to be STO, maybe because it allows for lessons to continue to be learnt in this reality.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

Interesting thread, thanks Joe.

What I'm about to say is something that has been sneaking up on me for a while, it's not because I want to be cynical or just viscerally vent, it's thoughts and feelings that I've been carrying around for quite some time. Thoughts when I see the same move in the world over and over again, everything repeats itself, both in my personal life and in world events. Nowadays I can approach them with more serenity and if they become very persistent, I try to change the thought pattern or just laugh, because there is no other way, it's to laugh or burst out. Especially because it is interesting to know how an old thought about a bad experience can be easily replaced by a new one about a bad experience, just because of the importance we give it and one realizes "oh wow, if that's how easily they were exchanged, then why don't I just replace the two and discard them and get rid of this annoyance? to substitute one problem for another, then the first one really wasn't and therefore none of them are... curious and interesting our insolite mind.

I feel dirty, I feel treacherous with myself, with my path, with my decision, with my "real nature" or the path I know I should follow and I keep tracting/excusing/procrastinating, etc. over and over again. I keep putting off the decision I know I have to make because I can't get over the absurd buffers I know I can get over them because I understand and not at the same time this cosmic game of just "learning and learning and learning" but for what? to know that if I decide to make a decision and I do the opposite it's because "this is how it should be to learn, to learn and enterder for what? for whom?, I do not feel "free", I feel chained to two polarities, to two dualities without being able to detach myself from both as if it were some "cosmic political party" and I feel that I am still chained to being just a cumulus/vehicle of experience for something "greater" be it god, be it the seventh density or whatever because at the same time it has to be satisfied that "it still escapes my understanding until I arrive, if I arrive at the 4th density, 5th, or whatever... it bothers me to understand it and not understand it at the same time. It bothers me to know that I would get this far and still not know why, as if some part of me has already written my script without giving it my approval, as if I were debating between my materialistic, characteristic of the 3rd density and objective at the same time of what I know there is more that I must achieve.

But still, always being able to help others but not myself and at the same time I feel like I'm digging my own grave.

I have had very good health even when I have tried to succumb to my weakness and abused it, something in me still insists on going on and on, what should I witness? what should I be a witness to? I have really had very good health, I have chosen a good body that I have abused and it has not declined. But he won't last forever so I have to take care of him. Sometimes I feel tired of all this world game of "as is up is down" and just comfort myself with a "enjoy the show"... I feel like I want to kick everyone's ass "up there" and yet, fu**** part of me can understand it... ¿Why?

I've tried to leave the forum and forget about all this and I can't... at some point again when detecting something in "reality" i'm coming back and I'm coming back... I am not me, I feel divided between "being and not being" for me. There is a battle in me that has become stronger and stronger and I just want to send them to the devil, to the devil to god or whatever.

And I've seen "UFOs", i remember my first abduction and monitoring, I've already seen ghosts, and etc. etc. etc... I'm almost dying to see almost a close encounter, I'm tired that if it's not real then I have to vary the diet to know if it's an organic imbalance or not because for the only people at the same time I can be an attack vector... because it seems that only I can witness it even when other people are there... I'm sick of all this, but that "you get it" pimple... it's still there...

I'm not the kind of person who has fits of "these things" for dreams... at first, yes, like everyone else, when reading the material... smells, dreams, sensations, etc... but they always presented themselves to me from an early age physically. So the attack is mostly through me and close ones, and it is more arduous in some cases because it happens obviously in the form of involuntary and reactionary thoughts or emotions and has been increasing along with understanding.

I hate that our loved ones are a means of entertainment and nourishment for some and an equal means of learning through suffering for others in other densities... i feel like anakin, like Perseus and all that symbolism of what disavows these "gods" and those who pretend to be such and those who say not to idolize them but still seem like twisted indifferent accomplices of seeing us suffer because we have to settle for a "without suffering there is no consciousness, they are not ready to understand it"... the god of high density is twisted because he is the image and likeness of the predatory mind but I still feel sometimes with the cass and with the lizards or whatever very fed up with all this.

And yet, another part of me gets it... am I crazy? Oh! feeling crazy is part of the attack/learning and I must endure... again and as often as necessary...

It's like being stuck in not going back to what was, but not out of fear or regret, because really when looking "back" despite all this confusion and mirror that I present to you, it has been an incredible journey really and that's why at the same time I don't want to stop discovering but at the same time I don't feel that I do it for my own learning really, but I do it because of the accumulation of experiences that directs me to one of the two resonances that we know from this density, STS and STO.

 

[PERLOU]

Je n'ai plus de rapport sexuel depuis des années (je suis handicapée et vit recluse chez moi avec mes petits compagnons à fourrure, et j'aurai 69 ans en 2024) cela ne me manque pas ayant une vie assez riche dans ce domaine dans ma jeunesse, je suis même assez satisfaite de ne dépendre que de moi...
Je fais cependant de beaux rêves de temps en temps où je suis honorée par un bel homme attentif et doux qui m'amène jusqu'à l'orgasme qui souvent me réveille, c'est très agréable et je m'en contente en remerciant le ciel de ce délicat bonheur...

I haven't had sex for years (I am disabled and live as a recluse at home with my little furry companions, and I will be 69 years old in 2024) I don't miss it having a fairly rich life in this area in my youth, I am even quite satisfied to depend only on myself...However, I have beautiful dreams from time to time where I am honored by a handsome, attentive and gentle man who brings me to the point of orgasm which often wakes me up, it is very pleasant and I am satisfied with it by thanking him. heaven of this delicate happiness...

 

[echo]

Today I am having a really hard time moving through sadness and pain that I feel for the people in Gaza. I follow a few accounts that are showing so many children whose parents have died and so many parents whose children have died. I haven't cried for a long time and today I can't help myself. I have a two-year old and a six-year old myself. It just feels unbearable right now that these innocent people are suffering so much.

 

[msasa79]

I think it has to be more nuanced, as this implies that this creative energy comes directly from God/The One/7th Density. I'd say a part (maybe a big part?) of procreation has to be STO, maybe because it allows for lessons to continue to be learnt in this reality.

Procreation, per se, is neither STO nor STS, as it's natural biological function of the living world, 2D realm. Similar to OPs who are also not 'polarized', i.e. neither STO nor STS simply because there's no individualized Soul to make that choice. The Choice between STO and STS is actualized first at the 3D, at the level of individual (and also group) Soul.
At least that's my understanding of the 'cosmology' as it's been discussed and developed here on the Forum and through the interactions with the C's.
Anyway, from rewatching Idiocracy over the weekend, I surely didn't get the impression that procreation "has to be" a STO act, at all.

 

[iamthatis]

Well said, Mari. Two thoughts on this topic:

Firstly, note that the C's have emphasised that 4D STS feed on pesky emotions such as fear, sadness, anger etc. Yet, most of the orgasms people are having around the world are unlikely to be experienced in such a way. Sex is overwhelmingly a pleasurable and positive experience, assuming its natural expression. So why would this energy be 'feeding' 4D STS? Note this subtle answer in the session excerpt Natus Videre quoted:

The context of the other questions in this excerpt was regarding draining of energy, and the feeding of negative entities. So the C's have coyly thrown a little "out" in response to Laura's question ie. in some contexts, the energy DOES go to one or the other partner.

Perhaps this context is determined by the emotions experienced during the act? So if a person's inner attitude towards sex is messed up by negative programming, porn etc, and they then have sex, the energy is of a more suitable frequency to be consumed by negative entities. Whereas if they have a purely (or mostly pure) positive attitude towards sex, and they then have sex, the energies are exchanged between two people for each other's benefit, making the act an STO one, and amplifying each other's STO polarity.

Of course, getting to the stage of having a purely (or mostly pure) positive attitude towards sex is nowhere near as simple as it sounds, given the amount of programming people are subjected to on the topic, pretty much from birth. Could this be the reason why? 4D STS certainly wouldn't want such a natural and popular human activity feeding the STO polarity en masse.

The second thought relates to Gurdjieff's famous quote that, "nothing shows up the true nature of a person more than their attitude to money". I think a person's attitude to sex is even more revealing.

The C's had this below to say about gratification of the flesh. It could be about sex, but it could be about all kinds of desires and impulses, like chocolate cake or gambling, a Netflix binge, etc.

Q: On many occasions you have said that the ideal thing is to have perfect balance of physicality and ethereality. This has been said on a number of occasions. Now, I don’t understand how it can be that gratification of a physical body can be the mechanics by which one is entrapped? Is it not gratifying to look at something beautiful? Is it wrong, sinful, or a form of a fall, to look at beauty, to hear something beautiful such as music, or to touch something that is sensually delightful such as a piece of silk or the skin of a loved one? These various things that the human being derives pleasure from very often elevate them to a spiritual state.

A: Possession is the key.

Q: What do you mean?

A: In STS, you possess.

Q: That’s what I am saying here…

A: If you move through the beautiful flowers, the silk, the skin of another, but do not seek to possess…

Q: It seems to me that it is possible to experience all of these things, including sex, without the need or desire to possess; only to give. In which case, I still don’t understand how it can be a mechanism for a ‘fall.’

A: If it is desired, then the mechanism is not to give. Do you eat a piece of chocolate cake because it is good to give to the stomach?

Q: Well, you could!

A: No, in STS, which is your realm do not forget, one gives because of the pleasant sensation which results.

Q: Could it not be said that, if everything that exists is part of God, including the flesh, that if one gives to the flesh, without being attached to the giving, that it could be considered a giving to the ‘All?’

A: Explain the process.

Q: For example: there are some people who like to suffer, because they believe that the flesh is sinful. That is a big thing that the Lizzies have instituted. For centuries they have wanted people to suffer, and they have made this big deal about sex and anything that might be considered pleasant or desirable should be denied, and that a person should suffer, and revel in their suffering. And, actually, making a person…

A: If one seeks to suffer, they do so in expectation of future reward. They desire to possess something in the end.

Q: What I am saying is: if a person can simply BE, in the doing and being of who and what they are, in simplicity; to become involved in doing everything as a meditation, or as a consecration, whether they are walking down the street and being at one with the air, the sunshine, the birds and trees and other people; in this state of oneness, doesn’t that constitute a giving to the universe as giving oneself up as a channel for the universe to experience all these things?

A: Not if one is “feeling this oneness.”

Q: We are what we are. Nature is nature. Progression is progression. And if people would just relax and be who and what they are in honesty, and do what is according to their nature without violating the Free Will of others, that this is a more pure form of being than doing things out of any feeling of expectation, or desire; to just BE, not want… just BE?

A: Yes, but STS does not do that.

Q: (A) From which I draw conclusions: if there STS around us, we cannot just…

A: You are all STS. If you were not, you would not be where you are.

Q: (A) There are those who are happy in the STS mode; and there are those who are trying to get out of the STS mode…

A: STO candidate.

Q: (A) These STO candidates cannot just simply BE, even theoretically, because then, STS would eat them.

A: No.

Q: Why not?

A: STS does not eat according to protocol.

Q: What does that mean?

A: What do you suppose?

Q: I have no idea!

A: STS “eats” whatever it wants to, if it is able.

Q: That’s what we said. If you are STO in an STS world, you are basically defenseless and they eat you.

A: No.

Q: Why? What makes STO unavailable or ‘inedible?’

A: Frequency resonance not in sync.

Q: (A) But then, that would mean that all these people who are saying that we need just to love everything and everybody, are right. They just be, and love, don’t do anything, just give everything to the Lizzies… they are right!

A: No, because motivation is STS.

This ties in with the usual weirdness of non-anticipation. Even anticipation of a positive future can be a trap it seems. We live in an STS reality of desire for the self. We can't really escape that just yet - or can we? I think it's a matter of using desire, or directing our dopamine circuits towards something higher. This would be one of those good ol' Taoist paradoxes, something like desiring non-desire. To have intent without anticipation.

Letting go of possessiveness of things, people, or even any sort of specific future, doing what is in front of you to do and letting the future take care of itself, while putting positive intent and faith into one's daily life... going with the flow seems to be one of the main lessons to learn in 3D for STO candidates.

I read this poem by Khalil Gibran recently and it really speaks to the heart of the matter for me. Especially in light of this thread where a lot of us are sort of being ground in the millstones like flour for the bread of God's feast table. That's kinda how it's felt for me in the past few months, too - being injured and then very immobile for a few months, then getting evicted, and recently having the worker's insurance company remove my benefits. Plus lots of excavating buried childhood abandonment trauma, learning to feel and release grief and rage. So it's been a hard time, but a good time as well.

On Love

Then said Almitra, Speak to us of Love. And with a great voice he said: When love beckons to you, follow him, Though his ways are hard and steep. For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you. Love possesses not nor would it be possessed; For love is sufficient unto love.

www.poetryfoundation.org

On Love

Then said Almitra, Speak to us of Love.
And he raised his head and looked upon
the people, and there fell a stillness upon
them. And with a great voice he said:
When love beckons to you, follow him,
Though his ways are hard and steep.
And when his wings enfold you yield to
him,
Though the sword hidden among his
pinions may wound you.
And when he speaks to you believe in
him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams
as the north wind lays waste the garden.

For even as love crowns you so shall he
crucify you. Even as he is for your growth
so is he for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height and
caresses your tenderest branches that quiver
in the sun,
So shall he descend to your roots and
shake them in their clinging to the earth.

•
Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto
himself.
He threshes you to make you naked.
He sifts you to free you from your husks.
He grinds you to whiteness.
He kneads you until you are pliant;
And then he assigns you to his sacred
fire, that you may become sacred bread for
God’s sacred feast.

All these things shall love do unto you
that you may know the secrets of your
heart, and in that knowledge become a
fragment of Life’s heart.

But if in your fear you would seek only
love’s peace and love’s pleasure,
Then it is better for you that you cover
your nakedness and pass out of love’s
threshing-floor,
Into the seasonless world where you
shall laugh, but not all of your laughter,
and weep, but not all of your tears.
•

Love gives naught but itself and takes
naught but from itself.
Love possesses not nor would it be
possessed;
For love is sufficient unto love.

When you love you should not say,
“God is in my heart,” but rather, “I am
in the heart of God.”
And think not you can direct the course
of love, for love, if it finds you worthy,
directs your course.

Love has no other desire but to fulfil
itself.
But if you love and must needs have
desires, let these be your desires:
To melt and be like a running brook
that sings its melody to the night.
To know the pain of too much tenderness.
To be wounded by your own under-
standing of love;
And to bleed willingly and joyfully.
To wake at dawn with a winged heart
and give thanks for another day of loving;
To rest at the noon hour and meditate
love’s ecstasy;
To return home at eventide with gratitude;
And then to sleep with a prayer for the
beloved in your heart and a song of praise
upon your lips.

Take care out there everyone.

 

[Expedition26]

The dream responses here have been fascinating.

Personally, I’m exhausted all the time and my son and I have been battling sickness for over a month. We both had hand foot and mouth then two weeks after that he caught a cold that hasn’t left and on top of that he spiked a fever a week after when he started daycare, and is still congested/has a cough.

The weather here has been fluctuating between cold/snow and warm enough to melt and that has been awful to keep humidity in check in the house. And I think it’s been keeping the sickness around.

Back to the dreams we had a weird experience the other night where I was watching the baby monitor as my son slept (he’s three) and out of nowhere he stood up eyes wide open and ran full speed off the bed and landed on the floor. I ran in and he was crying and I picked him up and he basically fell right back asleep. Thank the DCM he didn’t hit his head on a dresser when he went down but it was so bizarre. We asked him the next day if he had a bad dream and he didn’t remember it happening at all.

 

[SummerLite]

I was watching the baby monitor

Hi Expedition26, this may be helpful and what I thought after reading this is the monitor may be affecting your baby in a negative way. If its wireless then it has a huge energy field around it that may encompass the whole room. Do you have a meter that will read EMF or radio waves around your house? Its been awhile since I've looked into this but I recall baby monitors where on the caution list for this exposure. Anything thats actually wired is much better.

 

[SummerLite]

a meter that will read EMF or radio waves

I need to correct this. An EMF meter itself wont detect this. A meter with radio frequency detection is required. Some meters have both. I have a gauss meter for emf and another meter for wi fi etc.