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The C's had this below to say about gratification of the flesh. It could be about sex, but it could be about all kinds of desires and impulses, like chocolate cake or gambling, a Netflix binge, etc.
This ties in with the usual weirdness of non-anticipation. Even anticipation of a positive future can be a trap it seems. We live in an STS reality of desire for the self. We can't really escape that just yet - or can we? I think it's a matter of using desire, or directing our dopamine circuits towards something higher. This would be one of those good ol' Taoist paradoxes, something like desiring non-desire. To have intent without anticipation.
Letting go of possessiveness of things, people, or even any sort of specific future, doing what is in front of you to do and letting the future take care of itself, while putting positive intent and faith into one's daily life... going with the flow seems to be one of the main lessons to learn in 3D for STO candidates.
I read this poem by Khalil Gibran recently and it really speaks to the heart of the matter for me. Especially in light of this thread where a lot of us are sort of being ground in the millstones like flour for the bread of God's feast table. That's kinda how it's felt for me in the past few months, too - being injured and then very immobile for a few months, then getting evicted, and recently having the worker's insurance company remove my benefits. Plus lots of excavating buried childhood abandonment trauma, learning to feel and release grief and rage. So it's been a hard time, but a good time as well.
On Love
Then said Almitra, Speak to us of Love. And with a great voice he said: When love beckons to you, follow him, Though his ways are hard and steep. For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you. Love possesses not nor would it be possessed; For love is sufficient unto love.www.poetryfoundation.org
Take care out there everyone.
I want to add here. However you guys actually saying the same.
From mine observation I had, sex may be positive, but you have to know your partner's desires and to find the way to achieve that.
Because, basically, IMHO, we are trying to fulfil our own desires first, and it is STS in origin.
If one can switch to giving pleasure to your partner and receive pleasure from giving, but not taking, it would be more STO orientation.
msasa79
Jedi Master
Yup!
Plus, the overall taste of the interaction involves also the partner's state of mind; if both could be on the same wavelength/frequency of sharing and giving to the other, and not so much wanting/taking something for the self, but receiving, then sex approaches veritable STO act.
Bottom line, it depends on how much we both, the partner and I, know/love each other and ourselves, and on being as collinear as possible in our 'mutual' goal and 'shared' desire.
P.S. The above, in principle, doesn't have anything to do with procreation. If I, or the partner, would be entering into the sexual intercourse with the stance of wanting to make a child, it would again be pretty much a STS act because of the sheer fact that Wanting is the underlying motive for doing it. OSIT.
Musicinventor
Jedi Master
I find that anymore the act is becoming more and more incongruent with my beliefs. I recall in, Beelzebub’s Tales, Gurdjieff discussing how, at one point it in human history, it was considered a sacred act, reserved only for child birth. He also discussed that for some men it was a necessity as it removed "waste" from the system.
I have to strongly agree!
EmeraldR
Dagobah Resident
daoist/tcm perspective :
What is Jing? | Fusion Health
Jing is one of the most important concepts in Chinese medicine, where it’s traditionally said to be involved in every phase of life, from prenatal development right through to old age. But what exactly is Jing? And how can you look after and conserve yours?
www.fusionhealth.com.au
I had my very own “wake up in the middle of the night after a crazy dream” episode last night. I must confess, I was feeling little left out 
I had a very stressful day yesterday so maybe that had something to do with it.
There were a lot of different parts of the dream, but the main thing worth sharing is that it was night time and I was in the area where I grew up and there were a lot of other people around me and we all looked up to see an incredible phenomenon in the sky.
The best way I can describe it is that it was like a massive, dense cloud of water vapour that kind of poured into the sky from another dimension, out of a portal or something. It seemed to be alive. It looked incredible like vividly sparkling. I’ve never seen anything like it before and never imagined anything like it either.
Everyone was scared, and then I think it must have ‘brought some things with it’ because everyone was running around trying to get away from what I guess were some nasty critters.
I had a very stressful day yesterday so maybe that had something to do with it.There were a lot of different parts of the dream, but the main thing worth sharing is that it was night time and I was in the area where I grew up and there were a lot of other people around me and we all looked up to see an incredible phenomenon in the sky.
The best way I can describe it is that it was like a massive, dense cloud of water vapour that kind of poured into the sky from another dimension, out of a portal or something. It seemed to be alive. It looked incredible like vividly sparkling. I’ve never seen anything like it before and never imagined anything like it either.
Everyone was scared, and then I think it must have ‘brought some things with it’ because everyone was running around trying to get away from what I guess were some nasty critters.
If you both going into the same direction.
There are plenty of proverbs about that.
Like in this video.
They are just taking care of each other when it it becomes necessary.
EmeraldR
Dagobah Resident
so glad all went well Anya rest easy and take much careThat's good news Anya, thank you for letting us know that you're fine and that the surgery went well. Take some good rest!
Wonderful news! thanks for letting us know!!
It's an exchange, or it has the potential to be one, and if it is a loving relationship, then it should balance out I think, maybe not in every occasion, but the energy will come and go where it's needed, sometimes it'll be you investing in her, and sometimes it'll be her investing in you and viceversa. That's the exchange, I think it doesn't have to be 50/50 perpetually, I think it shifts and moves from one side to the other at the rhythm of the dynamic.
According to Chinese medicine:
1-3 AM The Liver
The Liver plays an important role in detoxifying the body and processing our emotions. If you’re waking up during this time it can indicate something is out of balance or your Liver is overloaded. This is an indication that you may have an unhealthy diet, consuming alcohol in excess or your nervous system is stuck in a state of fight or flight.
Tips for Liver Time
● Deep sleep is crucial during this time, as the Liver is responsible for detoxing the body.
● If you are experiencing high levels of stress in your life, you might be waking up during this time
● Participating in stress reducing activities including mediation or journalling, reducing alcohol intake, scheduling in Acupuncture or a Deep Tissue massage would be beneficial additions to your routine to support the Liver.
3-5 AM The Lungs
Ideally you are still sleeping during this window, as it is still Yin time.(6)
Waking up during this time may indicate that you have an imbalance in your Lung energy. Grief and sadness are the emotions linked to the Lungs. Consider whether you’re feeling any emotional tension or stress, as it may be blocking your ability to take deep breaths.
Practicing deep abdominal breathing exercises, Yoga and Meditation are wonderful ways to support your Lungs and release any unresolved emotions. This time is considered to be deeply spiritual, with many monks and meditation masters waking during this time to connect with themselves and their spiritual practice. (5)
Tips for Lung Time
● Have a notebook and pen by your bed to record what you remember of your dreams.
● If you’re awake take this extra time to meditate, lay in bed and connect with your breath by practicing deep abdominal breathing.
EmeraldR
Dagobah Resident
two books that ive found very informative and practical on sexual energy are :daoist/tcm perspective :
What is Jing? | Fusion Health
Jing is one of the most important concepts in Chinese medicine, where it’s traditionally said to be involved in every phase of life, from prenatal development right through to old age. But what exactly is Jing? And how can you look after and conserve yours?
Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy
Mantak Chia reveals for the first time to the general p…
and for women Healing Love through the Tao: Cultivating Female Sexual…
my root meditation teacher recommended them many moons ago !
im not a fan of mantak chia personally but some of his material is both practical and well explained within the context of daoist /TCM perspectives .
Jing is essentially the energy keeps the body youthful rather like the juicyness of a fresh peach !!!
Kawika
Jedi
I've also had the 3am wake up normally I wake up early but this is different I wake up unrested with thought loops that won't stop I tell myself just stop already! I do some pipe breathing and sometimes it helps, it's been going on for the last couple of months.
I had a very strange dream recently in the dream I went to visit a friend whose in a wheel chair, I was with my dad and brother in my truck. I left my dad and brother in the truck and went into my friends shop after a short visit he said he'd drive me back to the truck even though it was just outside, we got in his vehicle and took off driving fast and crazy we ended up on a dirt road spinning out of control off a cliff we both flew out of the car, I grabbed onto the cliff edge and my friend grabbed onto my foot, as I started to pull us up I looked down at him and he looked at me with a grin and let go smashing at the bottom. I got up to the top of the cliff and tried to look for him but couldn't see him so I took off for help. I made it back to my truck with my dad and brother we went to drive but all the roads narrowed so we couldn't drive and then the landscape turned into a maze at this point I took off on foot frantically looking for help and my friend but everything had changed again, I woke up very disturbed and shaken I don't normally have dreams like this.
Another thing that happened recently was this intense feeling of not caring about anything at all the only way I can describe it is like in one of those zombie films where the zombie just starts bashing it's head against the wall with no regards to itself. This feeling is not like me at all and have never felt that way before I guess you could say it was demonic it only lasted a day and haven't felt that way since then.
It sure seems like some evil demonic force/energy has enveloped around the planet, my daily life is pretty much normal but stuff just doesn't feel right I wouldn't be surprised that there're beaming negative frequencies
I had a very strange dream recently in the dream I went to visit a friend whose in a wheel chair, I was with my dad and brother in my truck. I left my dad and brother in the truck and went into my friends shop after a short visit he said he'd drive me back to the truck even though it was just outside, we got in his vehicle and took off driving fast and crazy we ended up on a dirt road spinning out of control off a cliff we both flew out of the car, I grabbed onto the cliff edge and my friend grabbed onto my foot, as I started to pull us up I looked down at him and he looked at me with a grin and let go smashing at the bottom. I got up to the top of the cliff and tried to look for him but couldn't see him so I took off for help. I made it back to my truck with my dad and brother we went to drive but all the roads narrowed so we couldn't drive and then the landscape turned into a maze at this point I took off on foot frantically looking for help and my friend but everything had changed again, I woke up very disturbed and shaken I don't normally have dreams like this.
Another thing that happened recently was this intense feeling of not caring about anything at all the only way I can describe it is like in one of those zombie films where the zombie just starts bashing it's head against the wall with no regards to itself. This feeling is not like me at all and have never felt that way before I guess you could say it was demonic it only lasted a day and haven't felt that way since then.
It sure seems like some evil demonic force/energy has enveloped around the planet, my daily life is pretty much normal but stuff just doesn't feel right I wouldn't be surprised that there're beaming negative frequencies
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