How are you feeling?

While being pleasantly surprised, I'm thinking about this C session from 2022:

(irjo) What are the chances that Trump will be re-elected as president of the USA in the coming elections?

A: Remote.

Q: (L) Does that mean that other weird things might happen?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Does that mean there won't be a presidential election in 2024?

A: Not exactly. Wait and see!
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So are we already in 'remote' territory (he did survive multiple assassination attempts), or is it likely that some events will unfold between now and inaguration?

The C:s prediction for the 2020 elections were:

Q: (Joe) What are the odds of Trump winning the US election?

A: Good.
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Nathancat7 said:
I tend to wake up in the morning more in touch with reality, but also just dead, without a sense of humor and emotionally bottled up.
And then the intensity hits me as I start to reach out to people. A fear of being exposed.
I have so much pain and emotion bottled in my body that I haven't even dealt with. But do I even need to? I say that because sometimes fixations and obsessions are the very obsticles reverberating problems that aren't really as big as they seem.
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Yeah, it sure is tough looking into the muck and darkness in ourselves.

Only you can decide if you need to do it. I suggest that you give it a try, as it sounds like you've become fed up with how things are for you? That was how it was for me, too, at certain points - totally sick of life, my habits, my patterns, my ignorance, my weakness, and my selfishness.

Mouravieff wrote that a person involved in the Work needs to go through a painful phase of moral bankruptcy. Does that sound like where you're at? I've gone through a couple phases, to be honest. Although it's terrible, it's totally necessary for growth. The bankruptcy occurs because the awareness has grown, and we can no longer lie to ourselves as much as we once did. The buffers start to dissolve, and we start to realize how dumb we've been. So maybe it's actually a sign that you're progressing in the Work, if that's any consolation. So I'd say yes - now is as good a time as any to approach with the pain and emotion bottled up.

Know that you don't have to do it all at once. You can take it slowly, trying different methods to see what works. I've found reading specific psychology books to be a big help. In addition to that, keeping a clean diet, exercise, and good sleep to make sure the system stays healthy while doing all the processing.

Know also that you don't have to do it alone. That's a huge block to let go of! It does make sense to want to hide what we're going through, to fear being exposed. Shame and guilt are very powerful forces. Often we don't want to share because we feel that if we talk about our mistakes, we'll be judged, and then x,y,z will happen... we'll be thrown out of the group, our life will collapse, we'll go crazy, or our world will end - all kinds of horrible things that will only make it all worse.

In reality when we talk about our mistakes, the opposite often happens - people listen, they empathize, and actually we feel better. We can begin to forgive ourselves, too. So if you want to network about specifics, you could open up a personal thread in the swamp. A lot of us have been through hell, too, and maybe could offer some advice or just be there to listen. As the C's said time and time again - networking dissipates the horrible charge inside the body. It can also give us some direction if we're lost. If posting here doesn't work for now, then maybe booking some therapy would help, too. Everyone needs someone to talk to, especially with how crazy the world is these days.

Anyways, take care!
 
Nathancat7 said:
I tend to wake up in the morning more in touch with reality, but also just dead, without a sense of humor and emotionally bottled up.
And then the intensity hits me as I start to reach out to people. A fear of being exposed.
I have so much pain and emotion bottled in my body that I haven't even dealt with. But do I even need to? I say that because sometimes fixations and obsessions are the very obsticles reverberating problems that aren't really as big as they seem.
How is that facillitated without transference? Well that's simple, don't do it.
I do struggle with emotional control and when that happens, if I'm writing or something, I do get emotional.
I forget the rules here. I don't know if we're allowed to tell stories.
I unleashed holy hell on a Costco.
For some reason they are obsessed with having people efficiently go through the entrance and meander through the store.
You can't go through the exit to the food court now, and the restrooms beyond for security reasons.
Normally I can just go through anyway because they are like, oh he's sweet, just this once then.
I had a client who was incontinent and in a wheelchair, so I just went through.
But with that angry, irritated edge.
Sir, sir, you can't go that way... you get the idea. Freaking out over nothing.
I knew it was wrong to set it up, but at the same time it felt like there were two things going on.
I don't express assertiveness very well.
Do they even know customer service anymore? Are inhuman rules treating people like cattle costing employees their soul in enforcement? Do you not give them the authority to think for themselves?
They could they at least say, "I think you are right, to a degree, but I can't do anything about store policy on a corporate level."
In general I am excited about the election. I can feel it through the country. Also I'm excited because there will be watch parties. And that's going to be so much fun. It could be disappointing, but I'm pretty sure I know whats going to happen.
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iamthatis said:
In reality when we talk about our mistakes, the opposite often happens - people listen, they empathize, and actually we feel better. We can begin to forgive ourselves, too. So if you want to network about specifics, you could open up a personal thread in the swamp. A lot of us have been through hell, too, and maybe could offer some advice or just be there to listen. As the C's said time and time again - networking dissipates the horrible charge inside the body. It can also give us some direction if we're lost. If posting here doesn't work for now, then maybe booking some therapy would help, too. Everyone needs someone to talk to, especially with how crazy the world is these days.
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Talking to someone about my mistakes helps me feeling better. And it helps me to work on forgiving myself.
Take care Nathancat7.
 
I woke up bright and clear at 430am this morning here in w ireland - had a cuppa and meditated for a while went back to bed and woke up feeling so relaxed and an overall sense of relief- that was before I switched the internet on -a few hours later I did and realised that Trump had won !!! great day here and met some of my local friends who had felt much the same - I reflected back to the time when Trump lost the last election and the feelings of despondency and foreboding (last four years comes to mind )even the weather at the time reflected that !
really mild here and quite sunny -17 degrees for a while !
 
Alejo said:
They say there's no courage without fear. I like what you wrote, it's not so much about getting rid of fear, it's about how to respond to it.
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Well we live, at least in America, where feeling is equated with emotion.
Well much emotion is body-centered in the limbic and as such I don't think it can be transformed-so an important detail maybe.
Because the thought occurred to me; is intellectualization really an attempt to rationalize and repress emotion?
And my answer to the question is, for me, some people intellectuallize and try to align their mind with being n greater mind because some things can't transform.
Its only that knowledge that can be turned into understanding. That means that choices must be made which engage the parasympathetic system ( is that the right one) engages fight or flight (pulls quick lever).
I just say that because focused attention is so important because it opens the door to sustained attention.
For example, I used to walk down the street when I was younger imagining not seeing, imagining all sorts of things-gun battles and the like.
But that emotional imagining is transformed and sustained through prayer, as we are taught, and breaks negative feedback loops.
 
Cooroibah said:
Talking to someone about my mistakes helps me feeling better. And it helps me to work on forgiving myself.
Take care Nathancat7.
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Yeah that's true. And it's true as it relates to specific situations. For instance I've been programmed to bottle up emotions and not talk about things that bother me.
For instance, it really bothers me when people arn't there for me, that they don't-flat out arn't supportive.
But that anger can get really stuck up and internalized leading to what-apathy, and not being supportive.
It has to be specific yes, because, if you look at all the Kamala supporters crying and all, I think what's keeping them from healing is misdirected thoughts and transference of their anger and rage (say at their parents or something they can't admit to) onto external forces that might be of greater benefit to the country.
 
iamthatis said:
Yeah, it sure is tough looking into the muck and darkness in ourselves.

Only you can decide if you need to do it. I suggest that you give it a try, as it sounds like you've become fed up with how things are for you? That was how it was for me, too, at certain points - totally sick of life, my habits, my patterns, my ignorance, my weakness, and my selfishness.

Mouravieff wrote that a person involved in the Work needs to go through a painful phase of moral bankruptcy. Does that sound like where you're at? I've gone through a couple phases, to be honest. Although it's terrible, it's totally necessary for growth. The bankruptcy occurs because the awareness has grown, and we can no longer lie to ourselves as much as we once did. The buffers start to dissolve, and we start to realize how dumb we've been. So maybe it's actually a sign that you're progressing in the Work, if that's any consolation. So I'd say yes - now is as good a time as any to approach with the pain and emotion bottled up.

Know that you don't have to do it all at once. You can take it slowly, trying different methods to see what works. I've found reading specific psychology books to be a big help. In addition to that, keeping a clean diet, exercise, and good sleep to make sure the system stays healthy while doing all the processing.

Know also that you don't have to do it alone. That's a huge block to let go of! It does make sense to want to hide what we're going through, to fear being exposed. Shame and guilt are very powerful forces. Often we don't want to share because we feel that if we talk about our mistakes, we'll be judged, and then x,y,z will happen... we'll be thrown out of the group, our life will collapse, we'll go crazy, or our world will end - all kinds of horrible things that will only make it all worse.

In reality when we talk about our mistakes, the opposite often happens - people listen, they empathize, and actually we feel better. We can begin to forgive ourselves, too. So if you want to network about specifics, you could open up a personal thread in the swamp. A lot of us have been through hell, too, and maybe could offer some advice or just be there to listen. As the C's said time and time again - networking dissipates the horrible charge inside the body. It can also give us some direction if we're lost. If posting here doesn't work for now, then maybe booking some therapy would help, too. Everyone needs someone to talk to, especially with how crazy the world is these days.

Anyways, take care!
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This is spot on.
I did that before and just started feeling sorry for myself.
I think I can handle it now.
I'd only do that here under the advisement and permission of say Joe.
I started a substack where I talk about that too. It's called, wait for it, "Nathan's Substack."
 
Tomiro said:
While being pleasantly surprised, I'm thinking about this C session from 2022:



So are we already in 'remote' territory (he did survive multiple assassination attempts), or is it likely that some events will unfold between now and inaguration?

The C:s prediction for the 2020 elections were:
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I was also thinking about that 2022 session recently where the C's seemed pessimistic about Trump's chances of winning in 2024. However, he did survive the assassination attempt in Ohio by what the C's said was divine intervention after the Quorum had met. I wonder if this means we moved on to a different timeline from the one the C's had in mind in 2022, one that may be more optimistic. We can only hope.​
 
Nienna said:
Yep. Now we see what happens next. I do hope all of those people who threatened to move if Trump won, do so.
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Not just Canada but London too - MSN

'We're flying over!' Ultra-rich Democrats paying up to £70k a month in London 'safe haven' after Trump's triumph​

Ultra-rich Democrats are paying tens of thousands of pounds a month to relocate to London after Donald Trump's triumph, buying agents have claimed.

There has been an increase in interest from Americans wanting to buy prime property in the UK because they disagree with the President-elect's bullish rhetoric.

Becky Fatemi, executive partner at Sotheby’s International Realty, said she received five calls in two days.

“That’s people saying, ‘he’s here, and he’s here for the next four years, and I don’t want to be, so these are the dates that we’re flying over’. All of those five are coming here within the next week,” Fatemi said.

Fatemi claimed a family was looking for a rental property with a budget of up to £70,000 per month just one day after Trump's victory was confirmed.

She noted the number of enquiries to her team from American buyers have jumped by 30 per cent year-on-year in the past two months.

R3Location director Marco Previero also claimed that wealthy liberal Americans feel London is a safe haven that is “more aligned to Democratic values”.

He said: “London has always been seen as a safe haven, but really even more so now with a more stable government that leans to the Left.”

Previero added: “They see Trump as an aberration. The writing was on the wall. Now they will be pushing the button.”

However, Rachel Reeves' recent tax-raising Budget increases costs on those hoping to buy second homes after relocating to the UK.

She added an extra two per cent to the additional homes stamp duty charge, meaning the tax bill for a foreigner purchasing a £10million second home is now more than £1.8million.

Despite Reeves also planning to scrap the controversial "non-dom status", wealthy Americans do not appear put off by the rental market.

The brutal irony in all of this is that hordes of billionaires and multi-millionaires have been fleeing Britain since Labour won the last election in July this year, the numbers perhaps even surpassing those fleeing China. Are these Democrats mad (no need to answer that one :-))? Chancellor Reeves raised taxes by an unprecedented and record amount in the recent budget with more pain to come as she made war on the middle classes, employers, entrepreneurs, family businesses and inherited wealth. She made protracted noises about seeking strong growth before the election but her budget has done everything to all but throttle growth. Although she and PM Starmer wooed the City of London prior to the election, the City has now reacted with dismay at her first budget. Hence, I can only assume these rich Democrats enjoy paying tax. If so, I guess they must look with horror at the prospect of Trump bringing in tax cuts to kick start the sluggish US economy. I guess these people have more money than sense.

As to London being a "safe haven" - here is a news report today from the Daily Telegraph, which is all too typical of London these days: MSN​

Man killed as three people stabbed at London street market​

Two men were killed in just half an hour, following separate violent attacks in South London on Sunday.

A man armed with a knife went on the rampage stabbing to death one man and injuring two others at the busy East Street Market in Walworth.

Meanwhile, one man died and two people suffered gunshot wounds following a shooting in Sydenham. The gunman remains at large.

So, good luck with that one too.
 
Whats new? Havent posted in a while, so lets recap this last year and a half:
Have been working a job which I know/like to work - servicing industry automation, and CNC machines, electrics, electronics.
However, was working over a year for a company which doesnt value people at all, had been by myself on various field repair outings anywhere from 200 to 800 km out, prevailingly all by myself, so drive/work all by myself. Very exhausting, very tedious, usually about 10 to 14 hrs a day.
Got sent out in the field with insufficient tools and electronics, had to use mine tools and computers/interfaces, was always under enormous psychological pressure, boss always tried to fit at least twice amount of work possible in each week.
Week after week out in the field, very draining and hard, still I did it for two reasons, for my family to earn something, and I tolerated bad working conditions and pressure because I actually like that line of work. I like to take something that doesnt work, repair it, and to breathe a new life in it. Make it like new.
But after denying me of agreed payment, effectively stealing my salary - I said enough is enough. At first it was 100 to 150 eur a month. Later, it would be short something like 250 to 350. And finally when I got shorted for 850 I said enough is enough. I would have put up with long hours and bad conditions if pay was respected. But to be like this, all work and minimal pay? No. No incentive to do it anymore. I had to take extra jobs in the weekends so that I would have enough money to eat in the weekdays while out in the field working for the company. Thats the definition of insanity. They wouldnt even cover food. Very bad human relations, very underappricieated. All in all, a shit job.
Cost me a good deal of my nerves in the time when I still tried to believe that my manager was a good human being. Well, he wasnt. He backtracked on everything he said, he never stood on our side - service personell - before the boss, even when he knew we were right 90% of the time. We were given hard and dirty jobs with ancient machines. Didnt want to buy us proper protective gear for the job. A machine coukd be full of bird and rat droppings, prime thing to get very sick working on it. I had to buy gloves, masks, cleaners, paper towels all by myself. I simply refused to work on it before it was cleaned. Have alreadg been heavy sick with pneumonia, hospital, ventilator and all of it. So didnt really care to risk getting sick again. They look down on me because I didnt want to endanger my health. Looking back, I can hardly call the manager or the boss human, they really arent.

I had problem with my health when I was working for them. Blood pressure up to 170/115. Feeling unwell generally. But the moment I quit, my BP fell to 130/85. No more tablets needed.

I wasnt well. Overworked, feeling bad. Almost fell asleep a couple of times behind the wheel because of all the pushing and stress.

Then I said, enough is enough. Cant do it anymore.

Got back from summer leave just to feel the toxic atmosphere in the company, my stomach turned upside down instantly and all I have said to them was "Im done. Right now, right here." I didnt even mean to say it, but it just fell out of me. And it was such a relief.

Other then that? I see the times getting crazier. Rythm accelerating. But now that Im with mu family, Im better. I dont care or better said I dont get riled up about state of the world so much anymore. What will be, will be. I am at peace now somehow.

I have found my place, and that is with my family. Time flies, noone is immortal. So I have to make the most from the time that Ive got. And that isnt slaving away for nothing, for a slavedriver company, and all for nothing. That means being with my family.
 
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