Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT): General information and discussion of Home Units
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I pray every day for your full recovery, you'll gona get it! 
Andrey
Jedi
Hello everyone!
First off congratulations to pierre for experiencing the benefits of hbot. Keep going! It'll probably get even better!
As for me, I did 10 sessions in a hard chamber at 1.5ata here in new delhi india. Im going to hold off on doing more as I feel I need to address and implement healthier lifestyle choices first like diet and exercise etc and then use hbot as an adjunct.
As for the benefits from just 10 sessions i already feel them! And theyre noticeable and significant enough that i dont think its placebo. Already my reading comprehension and focus has improved. I feel more calm and stable. I am able to perform tasks with more enthusiasm. My depression has lessened as well. I felt tired after the first 5 sessions but by the sixth i felt a surplus of energy. So far this is all ive experienced from just 10 sessions. Its not a complete 180... maybe a 25-30% improvement. I am definitely planning on doing many more sessions in the future once i get some other things in order.
I have a question though about hard vs soft chambers... what is the percentage of oxygen youre breathing in soft chambers? Some of the articles i read say that in soft chambers you only inhale 24% oxygen whereas in hard chambers its 100%. Is this accurate? Or can the lower percentage in soft chambers be fixed with an oxygen concentrator? I read through the whole thread so far and from what i have understood buying an oxygen concentrator with the mHBOT unit you can breathe in close to 100% oxygen. Without the oxygen concentrator its only 24%. Am i correct here?
Another question is about the pressure. Is 1.3ata enough? There are a lot of people (including the guy in the clinic i went to) saying higher pressures is better but from reading this thread it seems that might lead to toxicity am i correct here? I will be in the US next month and am thinking of purchasing a unit but youre not allowed to own anything above 1.3ata.. i was looking into getting a soft chamber with at least 1.5ata. So is 1.3ata sufficient? Seems kinda low. The guy at the clinic I went to said soft chambers are not effective but I dont think he has all the info plus hes obviously invested in selling his services. It seems many of these hard chamber hbot services twist things around in their descriptions to retain business. But im not an expert so some of these guys sound convincing and it makes sense that the more the better but that doesnt seem to be accurate from what ive read so far in this thread.
I am still wondering whether I should just do hard chamber at a hbot clinic at higher pressures (2.0-2.4) or if i should just get a soft chamber. I wish I could get a soft chamber at 1.5ata in the US. But i would have to settle for 1.3ata so I would have to take many many sessions to get the same effect like how Laura is doing. Seems more cost effective overall and safer as well.
Anyways congratulations again to everyone seeing benefits from this therapy. I cant wait to do more in the future.
First off congratulations to pierre for experiencing the benefits of hbot. Keep going! It'll probably get even better!
As for me, I did 10 sessions in a hard chamber at 1.5ata here in new delhi india. Im going to hold off on doing more as I feel I need to address and implement healthier lifestyle choices first like diet and exercise etc and then use hbot as an adjunct.
As for the benefits from just 10 sessions i already feel them! And theyre noticeable and significant enough that i dont think its placebo. Already my reading comprehension and focus has improved. I feel more calm and stable. I am able to perform tasks with more enthusiasm. My depression has lessened as well. I felt tired after the first 5 sessions but by the sixth i felt a surplus of energy. So far this is all ive experienced from just 10 sessions. Its not a complete 180... maybe a 25-30% improvement. I am definitely planning on doing many more sessions in the future once i get some other things in order.
I have a question though about hard vs soft chambers... what is the percentage of oxygen youre breathing in soft chambers? Some of the articles i read say that in soft chambers you only inhale 24% oxygen whereas in hard chambers its 100%. Is this accurate? Or can the lower percentage in soft chambers be fixed with an oxygen concentrator? I read through the whole thread so far and from what i have understood buying an oxygen concentrator with the mHBOT unit you can breathe in close to 100% oxygen. Without the oxygen concentrator its only 24%. Am i correct here?
Another question is about the pressure. Is 1.3ata enough? There are a lot of people (including the guy in the clinic i went to) saying higher pressures is better but from reading this thread it seems that might lead to toxicity am i correct here? I will be in the US next month and am thinking of purchasing a unit but youre not allowed to own anything above 1.3ata.. i was looking into getting a soft chamber with at least 1.5ata. So is 1.3ata sufficient? Seems kinda low. The guy at the clinic I went to said soft chambers are not effective but I dont think he has all the info plus hes obviously invested in selling his services. It seems many of these hard chamber hbot services twist things around in their descriptions to retain business. But im not an expert so some of these guys sound convincing and it makes sense that the more the better but that doesnt seem to be accurate from what ive read so far in this thread.
I am still wondering whether I should just do hard chamber at a hbot clinic at higher pressures (2.0-2.4) or if i should just get a soft chamber. I wish I could get a soft chamber at 1.5ata in the US. But i would have to settle for 1.3ata so I would have to take many many sessions to get the same effect like how Laura is doing. Seems more cost effective overall and safer as well.
Anyways congratulations again to everyone seeing benefits from this therapy. I cant wait to do more in the future.
Claus
Dagobah Resident
I would say, that it would be correkt for both types, if you do it without concentrator, but you could also use oxygen from gas bottles to get a higher percentage, but that would be expensive.
Because the oxygen won't concentrate itselve...
Its 24% without an oxygen concentrator.
Yes you will need the concentrator.
Correct, the mask is connected to the concentrator that produces close to 100% oxygen, its around 94%.
The oxygen concentrator raise up the oxygen rate to 95% or so. Without the concentrator the oxygen is 21%
This is a document ( comparing the features of units mentioned here and links etc.) we created before ordered our unit. If may be useful for others who are interested. you may ask for some rebate. it may not be much ( few hundreds).
docs.google.com
HBOT sheet
WOW! this is fantastic Pierre. It's like a miracle. It agains proves that knowledge ( information and practice) can protect. I wish you to recover fully.
Absolutely, it's amazing, Pierre! I'm so very happy for you!That's amazing Pierre! I'm very happy for you!
I have a 1.5 ATA Macy Pan. The principle is that at a higher pressure, as far as I know, more oxygen will enter your system, with increased benefits - so long as one is following the hypoxic-hyperoxic fluctuation practice described by Dr. Shai Efrati. Getting a 1.5 ATA would be worth it if one can afford it, although a 1.3 ATA unit will also give beneficial results, just less pronounced.
I think that soft chambers are effective, given the results posted here - especially Pierre's recent wonderful news! Way to go Pierre! The Chateau also has a soft chamber 1.5 ATA Macy Pan, if I recall correctly. Hard chambers may be more effective because they can generate higher pressure, 2 ATA and above. These are the ones that are used to cure crush wounds, heal diabetic infections, and a whole host of other very serious issues. But that doesn't mean soft chambers are ineffective, just not as powerful.
Have you checked with Macy Pan to see if they ship to the USA? I would get a 1.5 ATA chamber if you can swing it.
That's correct we have Macy Pan 1.5 ATA.
About the pressures, 1.5 ATA is 0.5 ATA relative pressure and 2 ATA is 1 ATA relative pressure. Since the induced healing is equal Time X number of sessions X relative pressure, a chamber at 2 ATA should reduce by two the healing time BUT it should multiply by 2 the induced fatigue also.
A few days ago, I tested a 80 min session instead the habitual 60 min and I noticed a markedly increase in fatigue. Personally 60 min at 1.5 ATA 5 times a week is close to the maximum I can handle.
