I don't get it.... why not destroy evil?

[Ricardo]

No disagreement here , fwiw , but the ying-yang concept , can be a conceptual tool , for any perspective , at or even beyond 4th, (accepting that it is a higher based concept ) , its still about consciousnesses . The duality is something in our perspective. eh , makes sense ? edit same of what you wrote , hum talk about going in circles

 

[bozadi]

No disagreement here , fwiw , but the ying-yang concept , can be a conceptual tool , for any perspective , at or even beyond 4th, (accepting that it is a higher based concept ) , its still about consciousnesses . The duality is something in our perspective. eh , makes sense ? edit same of what you wrote , hum talk about going in circles

Yes, I certainly agree with that. We are 3D and, having completed the previous ones, this means we are 1D/2D/3D. So, each of the subsequent densities contain all the previous densities. And, 7D = 1D/2D/3D/4D/5D/6D/7D. All is contained by (or, is a part of) 7D. This is why, I think, all densities are said to be 7D.

5D thru 7D are nondual "in themselves" but this doesn't mean they are detached from (or non-interactive with) lesser densities. Quite the opposite, in fact. All is one, after all.

 

[bozadi]

same of what you wrote , hum talk about going in circles

Come on, the entire existence goes in circles! :)))

 

[Ricardo]

that's 3dee thinkin :P

 

[bozadi]

that's 3dee thinkin :P

Still better than 2dee thinkin!

 

[Fluffy]

I have several mental blind points that annoy me regarding Yin-Yang; I mean the white point within the black half and vice versa. I don't get it exactly within the context of STO-STS duality but it somehow means balance, obviously, and that the two halves are one eventually or serve some common goal.

May be the dots represent the ‘blending in the middle’ or the opportunity for sts to become sto and vice versa, or the influence of sts or sto in its opposite for potential learning, or simply that one cannot exist without the other and is always present.

From an sts perspective, although it promotes and feeds off negativity ironically this negativity causes dramatic lessons and experiences, then ultimately, revelations about a choice, so it enables the seeker of more positive orientation to notice and adhere to the path of serving others, the little white dot..

From an sto perspective, they serve others so they also serve sts which takes and consumes, so there in, serving others enables serving the self. Little white dot

Sto serves self by serving others, sts serves self but inadvertently serves others by providing lessons. Nothing is ever 100% one or the other.


Or May be the yin-yang just looks boring without the dots

 

[bozadi]

I agree with your explanations, Fluffy. One of the things that annoys me about yin-yang is the black dot within the white half. Each of the halves consists of a spherical main body and a curving tail. For an experiment, I take the center of spherical body of the white half as 7D. And then I wonder what the black dot in the middle of the white sphere might be representing. I try to explain it with what I know or believe about 7D.

Other than the reasonable metaphorical explanations you suggested above, the following descriptions came to my mind from Eben Alexander's book Proof of Heaven (bold emphasis added):

I continued moving forward and found myself entering an immense void, completely dark, infinite in size, yet also infinitely comforting. Pitch black as it was, it was also brimming over with light: a light that seemed to come from a brilliant orb that I now sensed near me. An orb that was living and almost solid, as the songs of the angel beings had been.

My situation was, strangely enough, something akin to that of a fetus in a womb. The fetus floats in the womb with the silent partner of the placenta, which nourishes it and mediates its relationship to the everywhere present yet at the same time invisible mother. In this case, the “mother” was God, the Creator, the Source who is responsible for making the universe and all in it. This Being was so close that there seemed to be no distance at all between God and myself. Yet at the same time, I could sense the infinite vastness of the Creator, could see how completely minuscule I was by comparison. I will occasionally use Om as the pronoun for God because I originally used that name in my writings after my coma. “Om” was the sound I remembered hearing associated with that omniscient, omnipotent, and unconditionally loving God, but any descriptive word falls short.

The pure vastness separating Om and me was, I realized, why I had the Orb as my companion. In some manner I couldn’t completely comprehend but was sure of nonetheless, the Orb was a kind of “interpreter” between me and this extraordinary presence surrounding me.

It was as if I were being born into a larger world, and the universe itself was like a giant cosmic womb, and the Orb (who remained in some way connected to the Girl on the Butterfly Wing, who in fact was she) was guiding me through this process.

Later, when I was back here in the world, I found a quotation by the seventeenth-century Christian poet Henry Vaughan that came close to describing this place—this vast, inky-black core that was the home of the Divine itself.

“There is, some say, in God a deep but dazzling darkness...”

That was it, exactly: an inky darkness that was also full to brimming with light.

 

[bozadi]

In the book, what immediately follows the above excerpt contains some relevant explanations about the main subject of this thread:

The questions, and the answers, continued. Though they still didn’t come in the form of language as we know it, the “voice” of this Being was warm and—odd as I know this may sound—personal. It understood humans, and it possessed the qualities we possess, only in infinitely greater measure. It knew me deeply and overflowed with qualities that all my life I’ve always associated with human beings, and human beings alone: warmth, compassion, pathos... even irony and humor.

Through the Orb, Om told me that there is not one universe but many—in fact, more than I could conceive—but that love lay at the center of them all. Evil was present in all the other universes as well, but only in the tiniest trace amounts. Evil was necessary because without it free will was impossible, and without free will there could be no growth—no forward movement, no chance for us to become what God longed for us to be. Horrible and all-powerful as evil sometimes seemed to be in a world like ours, in the larger picture love was overwhelmingly dominant, and it would ultimately be triumphant.

I saw the abundance of life throughout the countless universes, including some whose intelligence was advanced far beyond that of humanity. I saw that there are countless higher dimensions, but that the only way to know these dimensions is to enter and experience them directly. They cannot be known, or understood, from lower dimensional space. Cause and effect exist in these higher realms, but outside of our earthly conception of them. The world of time and space in which we move in this terrestrial realm is tightly and intricately meshed within these higher worlds. In other words, these worlds aren’t totally apart from us, because all worlds are part of the same overarching divine Reality. From those higher worlds one could access any time or place in our world.

It will take me the rest of my life, and then some, to unpack what I learned up there. The knowledge given me was not “taught” in the way that a history lesson or math theorem would be. Insights happened directly, rather than needing to be coaxed and absorbed. Knowledge was stored without memorization, instantly and for good. It didn’t fade, like ordinary information does, and to this day I still possess all of it, much more clearly than I possess the information that I gained over all of my years in school.

That’s not to say that I can get to this knowledge just like that. Because now that I’m back here in the earthly realm, I have to process it through my limited physical body and brain. But it’s there. I feel it, laid into my very being. For a person like me who had spent his whole life working hard to accumulate knowledge and understanding the old-fashioned way, the discovery of this more advanced level of learning was, alone, enough to give me food for thought for ages to come...

 

[Hok]

that's 3dee thinkin :P

I am in 7 D now simultaneously with all the D unified in the absolute I am the one manifested in the everything including this entire forum!

 

[Wandering Star]

For an experiment, I take the center of spherical body of the white half as 7D. And then I wonder what the black dot in the middle of the white sphere might be representing. I try to explain it with what I know or believe about 7D.

In principle, 7D is supposed to be the one, it is everything.

If it is everything it cannot be a part, all the parts together are 7D, so the complete Yin-Yang symbol is 7D.

And that the completely black part has a white point for balance seems sensible.

I imagine (this is pure speculation) that in the destruction of Kantek there may not have been any white point for balance.

 

[bozadi]

In principle, 7D is supposed to be the one, it is everything.

If it is everything it cannot be a part, all the parts together are 7D, so the complete Yin-Yang symbol is 7D.

Yes, you're right about that, but you'll also remember that there's a "relative" (not absolute) duality regarding 7D: it's both "all densities" and also a separate density to which one is graduated after completing 6D.

Thus, in one sense, no part of the yin-yang symbol can fail to be 7D, but in another relative sense, it can be divided into 7 separate densities. Based on that relative sense, I take the bigger spherical part of the white (yang) side as 7D. Maybe I should specifically take the black dot in yang as 7D, I'm not sure.

 

[Wandering Star]

Yes, you're right about that, but you'll also remember that there's a "relative" (not absolute) duality regarding 7D: it's both "all densities" and also a separate density to which one is graduated after completing 6D.

Thus, in one sense, no part of the yin-yang symbol can fail to be 7D, but in another relative sense, it can be divided into 7 separate densities. Based on that relative sense, I take the bigger spherical part of the white (yang) side as 7D. Maybe I should specifically take the black dot in yang as 7D, I'm not sure.

Well, I don't remember anything like that in any material I've read (which are actually C's and Carla's Ra).

After the sixth density is the meeting with the one or seventh density.

Then there is talk of another disbursement by the one or in Ra's words a new octave, but nothing of what you have said.

 

[genero81]

Laura said:
Q: (L) The illuminati has been described as being behind or with the brotherhood which has been described as being in connection with the Lizard beings...

A: Close. But not that simple.

Q: (L) Well, if the quorum is the good guys and the illuminati is the bad guys, and they both are at the high levels of Freemasonry, what is the story here?

A: Picture a circle or cycle first now then contemplate for a moment before follow up.

Q: (L) Okay, I am contemplating a cycling circle.

A: Now, two halves representing positive and negative. Two halves.

Q: (L) Well, what I am getting out of that is the two halves and both sides are playing with the human race. Is that it?

A: No. This is complicated but if you can learn and understand, it will be a super revelation.

Q: (L) Well, go ahead and explain.

A: Ask step by step.

Q: (L) Why do we so often have to ask things step by step?

A: In order to absorb the information.

Q: (L) The quorum is described as the good guys. The illuminati is described as bad guys. And yet, they are both Masonic. When a person in the Masonic organization reaches the higher levels, are there individuals at the higher levels recruiting masons to one side or the other?

A: First, not exactly one side or another.

Q: (L) I am beginning to not understand something here because if the Lizzies...

A: Unblock.

Q: (L) I don't have a block here. If the brotherhood AKA illuminati AKA Lizzies AKA beast are the ones who are going to do detrimental things to this planet, how are they related or connected to the quorum which is in touch with...

A: This will take time to explain be patient it will be worth it.

Q: (L) Well, are you going to explain it right now?

A: Ask step by step.

Q: (L) Okay. What is the nature of evil?

A: Blend.

Q: (L) Are the Lizzies what we would consider to be evil?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the Cassiopaeans what we would consider to be good?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Yet, do the Cassiopaeans use and manipulate the Lizzies to accomplish certain things?

A: No.

Q: (L) The Lizzies work independently and in opposition to the Cassiopaeans?

A: Independently, not in opposition.

Q: (L) Well then, is there somebody over and above this whole project...

A: We serve others therefore there is no opposition. Careful now. Step by step. If you do not fully understand answer ask another.

Q: (L) Part of a whole. Part of a circle.

A: Blend.

Q: (L) Does this mean...

A: Picture a blending colored circle image.

Q: (L) Are you saying that at some levels the two halves overlap?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Are you saying that some of the Quorum are good guys and bad guys and the same for the Illuminati because the two are on opposing sides of the circle but at the point of blending one is weighted more to one side and the other to the other side? And these organizations are where the interactions come together?

A: Closer.

Q: (L) Let's leave it for the time being.

A: No. Now please.

Q: (L) Okay. So it is a blending. Does it have something to do with ... in your case service to others means that you even serve those who serve self, is that correct?

A: Yes; we serve you and the Lizards have programed your race to self service remember.

Q: (L) Well, I am down a notch or two. So, I am still a service to self individual to some extent, is that correct?

A: But moving slowly toward service to others. Not all humans are.

Q: (L) Does this mean that when people who are members of the quorum or illuminati call for information or help, that you, because of your service to others orientation are obliged to answer whoever calls?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) What is the no part.

A: If vibrational frequencies are out of pattern we do not connect.

Q: (L) Is the work of the Lizzies part of an overall grand plan or design?

A: All is.

Q: (L) Let's go on. I am depressed because you guys told me I was a bad person.

A: You are not a bad person.

Q: (L) Well, I am feeling pretty crummy right now.

A: Lizzies induced.

Q: (L) You mean my crummy feelings are Lizzie induced?

A: As always.

Q: (L) Well I am feeling crummy because you guys let me know that I am in the same sinking boat as the rest of the poor slobs on this miserable planet. I was working pretty hard to get out of the boat.

A: Silliness; you're in your own boat.

Q: (L) I would like to know where Dr. Usui got the Reiki symbols?

A: Must answer question.

Q: (L) What question? The quorum and illuminati question?

A: You will feel ecstasy once answered.

Q: (L) Okay. A blending. Yet two halves.

A: Of a circle.

Q: (L) Who designed this circle?

A: Natural frequency wave. Some near conjunction blend both service patterns and each "camp" to create perfect balance.

Q: (L) Okay, so the Illuminati are the higher level on the pathway of service to self and somehow, by reaching these higher levels may have come to realizations or frequencies which have caused their position to be modified or blended to where service to self becomes or incorporates or moves them to service to others realizations, is this correct?

A: Continue.

Q: (L) Okay, the ones in the quorum are those who are focused on service to others and they, in their pathway of service to others begin to understand that some service to self is service to others.

A: Close.

Q: (L) And the whole idea is to blend both pathways no matter which direction you come to it from?

A: Service to others provides the perfect balance of those two realities; service to self is the diametrical opposite closing the grand cycle in perfect balance.

Q: (L) So it is necessary to have a pathway of service to self in order for the pathway of service to others to exist?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And those who are in the quorum and the illuminati ...

A: Blends in middle.

Q: (L) So it is necessary to have the darkness in order to have the light...

A: Yes.

Free will is the key to existence. There are only entities pursuing their own interest according to their nature. Without STS, there is no existence, I think. Certainly no existence as we understand it. If STO was the only mode of Being, all would remain unified at 7D. That would be my assumption, anyway. STO exist to maintain balance so STS can pursue that pathway to it's ultimate conclusion closing the Grand Cycle. Without STO that could never happen because STS tends to violate free will as it pursues it's interests. Without free will existence doesn't work so STO works with STS "at the conjunction" to maintain balance. OSIT

 

[bozadi]

Well, I don't remember anything like that in any material I've read (which are actually C's and Carla's Ra).

After the sixth density is the meeting with the one or seventh density.

Then there is talk of another disbursement by the one or in Ra's words a new octave, but nothing of what you have said.

We say all, including us, is 7D. And then we also say we are 3D. Although it might sound contradictory, both is true, right?

Just like that, 7D is both "the only density", and it's also an individual density relatively separate from other densities. As far as I remember from the Ra material, 7D also contains lessons & learning. It has its own sub- and sub-sub-densities. It's not consisted of a single moment of big bang. It includes a process.

For instance:

Ra: I am Ra. To simplify this concept is our intent. The higher self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.

Assuming that Ra's explanation is valid, it appears that 7D also involves a process. It's not consisted of big bang only.

 

[bozadi]

Free will is the key to existence. There are only entities pursuing their own interest according to their nature. Without STS, there is no existence, I think. Certainly no existence as we understand it. If STO was the only mode of Being, all would remain unified at 7D. That would be my assumption, anyway. STO exist to maintain balance so STS can pursue that pathway to it's ultimate conclusion closing the Grand Cycle. Without STO that could never happen because STS tends to violate free will as it pursues it's interests. Without free will existence doesn't work so STO works with STS "at the conjunction" to maintain balance. OSIT

I agree. But it occurs to me that Darius might also be acknowledging that. I mean, maybe he doesn't mean to "exterminate" all STS in the universe, but only those who are around us when he asks if that would be an STS motivation.

I think it depends. We already try and do kill "viruses", for instance. And this is not necessarily STS. Putin's Russia, as a good external example, must kill many who are sent by "evil" forces to destroy Russia. Self-defense can "legitimately" involve killing depending on the conditions.