Imminent Alien Disclosure?

[genero81]

Dark Journalist is sometimes interesting, but strikes me as way too paranoid for his own good.

I think I know what you mean here. He tends to think the whistleblowers like Grusch are part of the disinformation of the gatekeepers to control the narrative. He also tends to kind of go off the rails, or so it seems to me, about Atlantis. I mean, unless he has a solid channel source, I don't see how you can know much of anything about that subject. Maybe he does, but if so he doesn't mention it.

 

[axj]

I think I know what you mean here. He tends to think the whistleblowers like Grusch are part of the disinformation of the gatekeepers to control the narrative.

Considering what we know, that does not seem unlikely.

He also tends to kind of go off the rails, or so it seems to me, about Atlantis. I mean, unless he has a solid channel source, I don't see how you can know much of anything about that subject. Maybe he does, but if so he doesn't mention it.

He does mention his sources on Atlantis. It is mostly Cayce and Rudolph Steiner, as well as uncovering little-known aspects of Atlantis research in Central America and the Caribbean in the 19th and 20th centuries. He does seem to think that Atlantis was basically centered in the Caribbean, which I think is questionable.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Considering what we know, that does not seem unlikely.

I think it's just the opposite. Considering what we know, everything Grusch and Elizondo have stated about what they know meshes nicely what "what we know," i.e. what we have determined is most likely to be true. I'll change my mind if and when they change their narrative, but until that happens, that's where I stand on the issue.

If you want a better idea of who is gatekeeping, I've got a few names for you: Mick West, Steven Greenstreet, Sean Kirkpatrick, Sue Gough, Mike Turner...

 

[axj]

Considering what we know, everything Grusch and Elizondo have stated about what they know meshes nicely what "what we know," i.e. what we have determined is most likely to be true.

We know that this is one of the most highly classified topics at some of the most powerful and malicious organizations. Grusch and Elizondo were allowed to reveal certain information at this time and the question is why. I don't think that the answer to that is anything positive for humanity, just like the Dark Jounalist is suspecting.

The most likely reason is indeed that they want to use the UFO threat narrative to grant themselves emergency powers, similar to the Enabling Act in Nazi Germany.

An eventual 'official' revelation that we are not alone may have some positive consequences, but I think the STS controllers determined that they can steer the narrative in the desired direction.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

We know that this is one of the most highly classified topics at some of the most powerful and malicious organizations. Grusch and Elizondo were allowed to reveal certain information at this time and the question is why. I don't think that the answer to that is anything positive for humanity, just like the Dark Jounalist is suspecting.

Since the late 1940s there have always been insiders who want disclosure of a sort, and there have always been leaks. Since 2017 those people have been networking. Many of them are or were fairly highly placed in the executive branch. Grusch and Elizondo were "allowed" to reveal certain information because they have the support of one or more factions, and they are smart, i.e. they know how the system works and how to work the system.

The most likely reason is indeed that they want to use the UFO threat narrative to grant themselves emergency powers, similar to the Enabling Act in Nazi Germany.

An eventual 'official' revelation that we are not alone may have some positive consequences, but I think the STS controllers determined that they can steer the narrative in the desired direction.

No doubt there are factions that want to control the narrative no matter what, and they will attempt to do so. That has no bearing on Elizondo or Grusch's motivations or sincerity.

 

[axj]

Since the late 1940s there have always been insiders who want disclosure of a sort, and there have always been leaks. Since 2017 those people have been networking. Many of them are or were fairly highly placed in the executive branch. Grusch and Elizondo were "allowed" to reveal certain information because they have the support of one or more factions, and they are smart, i.e. they know how the system works and how to work the system.

I think it is a way too optimistic view that the supposed pro-disclosure faction within the PTB wants to do it for non-ulterior motives. What Grusch and Elizondo were allowed to disclose seems to have been carefully selected to fit a certain narrative and outcome, which I expect to be malicious in nature. Just like pretty much everything else coming from the various competing power factions within the PTB.

The "disclosure faction" is probably simply the one that wants to use the UFO threat card to get more power, while the "non-disclosure faction" thinks that continued secrecy is preferable.

That has no bearing on Elizondo or Grusch's motivations or sincerity.

Whether or not the two are sincere and are just being used for this operation is not really that important, in my opinion. What matters are the possible reasons for this limited disclosure by the PTB or some faction within it.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I think it is a way too optimistic view that the supposed pro-disclosure faction within the PTB wants to do it for non-ulterior motives.

Factions, plural. It is a way too simplistic view to think that everyone associated with UAP programs is a douchebag.

What Grusch and Elizondo were allowed to disclose seems to have been carefully selected to fit a certain narrative and outcome, which I expect to be malicious in nature.

Which narrative do you think it fits, and which narratives do you think it doesn't fit?

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

Which narrative do you think it fits, and which narratives do you think it doesn't fit?

I feel ( only Feel ) that information given publicly by these whistleblowers or others so far is not sufficient yet to say which narrative they are pushing, good bad nor indifferent. Like I say it's only a feeling.

 

[axj]

Session Date: April 27th 2024

(L) Okay. She is saying, basically, there's going to be disclosure in 2026 of some kind. Is she close to the mark with that?

A: Close.

Q: (L) So, there's going to be some ramping up of some kind of disclosure-type information in another year or so?

A: Yes

Q: (Possibility of Being) Will it be a real disclosure or distraction?

A: Distraction. Real disclosure would lead to mass rejection.

Q: (L) In other words, if they really told who they were and what they were here for, people would freak!

 

[MJF]

In an earlier post, I quoted something the C's said about the veteran ufologist Dr Jacques Vallee:

Q: (L) Uri Geller sent an e-mail to the mail list recommending that people visit Brother Blue's web site for info on the Aviary. Then he says that he has personally known and been involved with these 'birds.' Anyway, there is this whole deal going on with Vallee being caught in a lie on the mail list. Are they trying to assassinate him or is he really a bad guy?

A: Vallee is not sticking to the "program."

Laura wanted to know what program the C's were referring to. I had the benefit of watching an Ancient Aliens episode devoted to Vallee last week and it made me think more about the C's reference to the "program". Vallee was certainly an insider for a while who like Hal Puthoff worked for the CIA sponsored Stanford Research Institute (SRI). This would bring him into contact with many of the people I mentioned in my previous email on this subject. Quoting from Vallee's Wikipedia entry:

Via professional association with SRI and independent friendships with Harold E. Puthoff and Central Intelligence Agency analyst Kit Green (who obtained a temporary security clearance for him in 1974), Vallée was intermittently consulted on classified remote viewing research (including the Stargate Project) throughout the 1970s and 1980s. During the early SRI experiments (led by Puthoff and Russell Targ in conjunction with Green as CIA contract monitor), he became acquainted with Uri Geller, Edgar Mitchell, Charles Musès, Andrija Puharich, Jack Sarfatti, Arthur M. Young, Edwin C. May, Pat Price and Ingo Swann.

Coming back to the "program", Vallee was unusual among his fellow ufologists of the period in that he recognised the high strangeness (as did journalist John Keel) of the UFO experience rather than just looking at it as a nuts and bolts phenomenon when explaining the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH). As Wikipedia states:

However, by 1969, Vallée's conclusions had changed, and he publicly stated that the ETH was too narrow and ignored too much data. Vallée began exploring the commonalities between UFOs, cults, religious movements, demons, angels, ghosts, cryptid sightings, and psychic phenomena. His speculation about these potential links was first detailed in his third UFO book, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers.

As an alternative to the extraterrestrial visitation hypothesis, Vallée has suggested a multidimensional visitation hypothesis. This hypothesis represents an extension of the ETH where the alleged extraterrestrials could be potentially from anywhere. The entities could be multidimensional beyond space-time; thus they could coexist with humans, yet remain undetected.

Vallée's opposition to the popular ETH was not well received by prominent U.S. ufologists, hence he was viewed as something of an outcast. Indeed, Vallée refers to himself as a "heretic among heretics".

This stance immediately put him at odds with those who viewed the matter purely as a physical phenomenon. If the PTB wanted to preserve the subject as a purely physical phenomenon in order to disguise the hyperdimensional nature of the UAP's and EBE's, then Vallee was definitely departing from the programme. However, this departure from the main stream UAP narrative occurred long before the C's made their comment. So perhaps the "program" could mean something else.

One thing we do know is that the PTB and their various agents, including those in the military and intelligence agencies (especially in the USA), have striven to keep real data and information on the subject under wraps. When the C's made their comment, this was still very much the official position and what limited disclosure there has been up to now has come in recent years. So, how could Vallee have departed from the program? The answer may lie in the fact that Vallee is not just an astrophysicist but also a computer systems analyst, having obtained a Phd in industrial engineering and computer science from Northwestern University in 1967. Indeed, whilst at Northwestern he began to conduct early artificial intelligence research. He would later serve on the National Advisory Committee of the University of Michigan College of Engineering and authored four books on high technology, including Computer Message Systems, Electronic Meetings, The Network Revolution, and The Heart of the Internet.

So, could the C's reference to "program" be a cryptic reference to Vallee's interest in computer science as a means to conduct a deeper analysis of the UAP phenomenon? The answer could be a tentative yes, since the Ancient Aliens episode showed how Vallee used his computer skills to help establish a computer data program, which comprised as many UAP reports and investigations worldwide as he and his collaborators could lay their hands on. This allowed them to build a massive data bank, which could be interrogated in a sophisticated manner so as to try and gain answers to the phenomenon. Indeed, in the Ancient Aliens show, he spoke of enlisting modern artificial intelligence to advance this work. And it would seem that Robert Bigelow, who owned Skinwalker Ranch and the Wilson Ranch in Utah, played a part in the ongoing development of this program. Again, quoting from Vallee's Wikipedia entry:

More recently, he has been associated with Robert Bigelow as a consultant to the National Institute for Discovery Science and a member of the scientific advisory board of Bigelow Aerospace.

“After years of ideological arguments based on anecdotal data the field of UAP research appears ready to emerge into a more mature phase of reliable study,” Vallée wrote in the paper’s abstract. Citing the mounting scientific interest in UAP around the world, based in part on documents conveying an official military interest in these phenomena, the scientist argued that the path forward would require the analysis of hard data, paired with intelligently informed theoretical studies.​

“Without pre-judging the origin and nature of the phenomena, a range of opportunities arise for investigation,” Vallée wrote, warning that “such projects need to generate new hypotheses and test them in a rigorous way against the accumulated reports of thousands of observers.”

So, where has this program reached today? Apparently, it has morphed into the Capella Project:
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UAP: A Strategy for Research by Jacques Vallee – 2014 GEIPAN

“In the United States the National Institute for Discovery Science (“NIDS”) and the Bigelow Aerospace Corporation have initiated a series of special catalogues to safeguard their own reports from public sources and from their staff. The author was tasked with the development of a data warehouse consisting of 11 separate data bases to support this research. The project is known as “Capella”.
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The “Capella” Data Warehouse concept

The overall data structure for Capella has been published in both French and English on the author’s website (www.jacquesvallee.com) under the title: “A System of Classification and Reliability Indicators for the Analysis of the Behaviour of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.” The data warehouse uses a 6-layer system to describe the behaviour of the phenomenon. It is detailed in reference 10 below, which is also available on the website.

The low signal-to-noise ratio in ufology presents a special challenge, however, and it demands special technical responses by competent information scientists using the latest software tools.“​

• Jacques Vallée: Pursuing Unidentified Aerial Phenomena and ‘Impossible Futures’ – Micah Hanks, TheDebrief – October 7, 2022

“The problem was that in 2014, despite the existence of several notable independent catalogs containing information on historical incidents, there was no single collection of reliable UAP reports—a centralized database, in other words—upon which such studies could rely. This had been part of what prompted Vallée to assemble such a database for NIDS, work that would later carry over as Bigelow’s efforts moved out of the private sector and into the official world as part of the Defense Intelligence Agency’s Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program (AAWSAP).

“In the United States the National Institute for Discovery Science (“NIDS”) and the Bigelow Aerospace Corporation have initiated a series of special catalogues to safeguard their own reports from public sources and from their staff,” Vallée wrote in his 2014 paper, adding that he had been asked to develop a UAP data warehouse containing 11 individual databases.

“The project is known as ‘Capella,’” it stated.

“There is such a database. It is the one we built as part of the AATIP/BAASS project in Las Vegas,” Vallée told me. Comprising roughly 260,000 cases from countries around the world, the scientist said during our call that the Capella database had been one of the major focal points of the program.

“Contrary to what people believe, [Capella] is the largest part of the budget that was spent on the classified project,” Vallée said. This included paying for translations of incident reports from Russian, Spanish, Portuguese, and several other languages into English, and providing funding for teams that conducted additional research on-site.​

“It was a large effort for two years, Vallée said, though he added that in reality, “probably close to fifty or sixty years of work went into the database.”“

See:

And https://www.geipan.fr/sites/default/files/15_VALLEE_full.pdf

There is one major drawback though and that is, quoting Valle, “The database is still classified, to my knowledge.” Whether this situation will change or not remains to be seen. If ever it is made public, it would comprise an absolute treasure trove of UAP reports.

The name "Capella" derives from that of the brightest star in the northern constellation of Auriga. Its name meaning "little goat" in Latin, Capella depicted the goat Amalthea that suckled Zeus in classical mythology. However, the constellation Auriga means the "Charioteer" in Latin, which seems appropriate in a UAP context given that UAP's have been viewed by some as the chariots of the gods.​

 

[Z...]

Another documentary released on Netflix, pretty good overview of cattle mutilations, only watched 1st episode so far

 

[Jacques]

From this article :

The House Committee on Oversight and Accountability announced it will hold a joint subcommittee hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP). Details are below:

Date/Time: Wednesday, November 13 at 11:30am

Location: 2154 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC, 20515

Witnesses:

• Dr. Tim Gallaudet
  Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (RET.)
  Chief Executive Officer, Ocean STL Consulting, LLC
• Mr. Luis Elizondo
  Author, and Former Department of Defense Official
• Mr. Michael Gold
  Chief Growth Officer, Redwire Corporation, and Former National Aeronautics and Space Administration Associate Administrator
• Mr. Michael Shellenberger
  Founder of Public

This information is subject to change. Please check the committee website for the most up-to-date information.

And if you want to watch it live :

The hearing will be open to the public and press and will be livestreamed online at U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability.

 

[msasa79]

From this article :

...
Witnesses:

• Dr. Tim Gallaudet
  Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (RET.)
  Chief Executive Officer, Ocean STL Consulting, LLC
• Mr. Luis Elizondo
  Author, and Former Department of Defense Official
• Mr. Michael Gold
  Chief Growth Officer, Redwire Corporation, and Former National Aeronautics and Space Administration Associate Administrator
• Mr. Michael Shellenberger
  Founder of Public

...

Interesting that the US Senate is scheduled to have an "early leadership elections" on the same day when this hearing is supposed to happen. If there was planned some kind of public coverage of the hearing, now it's gonna go probably almost invisibly due to 'big political show' happening basically at the same time. Reminds me on that saying (paraphrasing), "Cold war to cover celestial intentions" in a sense of "political/worldly show to distract from discussing the actual reality".

https://twitter.com/x/status/1855344652422951054

Ark posted a P.S. to his last blog post today with a link to R. Malone's today's substack entry "Fifty Shades of Grey [Aliens]" (link below), which fits nicely in this thread about alien (drip-drip) disclosure, and a link to Tim Gallaudet's paper from March 2024, titled "Beneath the Surface: We May Learn More about UAP by Looking in the Ocean", which seems well worth of reading in its entirety (based on the Executive Summary).

Fifty Shades of Grey [Aliens]

Breaking free of the abuse

www.malone.news

 

[lilies]

And another one from Netflix, with George Knapp
Maybe they're timing these with Halloween.

Investigation Alien Season 1 Episode 1
Cattle mutilations vs Human-Cattle hunting
Just like Dick Cheney in his favorite forest! Its good fun, right? Just "lights up my heart like nothing else" - Hillary wrote in her famous emails, when she planned to sacrifice a ""chicken"" (young boy) to Moloch..

Civilians are afraid and powerless. Nobody helps them.

A lot = 15-20 cattle mutilations in 4 years in a local area around a couple farms. Farmer - who lost the expensive cattle - spots a two story UFO just sitting within 100 yards of the house:
- It had green rectangle windows around the middle, and round red ones around the top.
He decides to shoot it and goes into the house to get his rifle. When he puts the scope on the parked alien ship, the entire ship just disappears: POP!

The grass grows so it..

The carcass over the next months sort of MELTED INTO THE GROUND. It wasn't torn apart by the scavengers or anything.

Time lock:

(Approaching Infinity) What is it about the flesh of mutilated animals that makes predators avoid eating it and in some cases for the flesh to not decompose for a very long time?

A: The presence of a time lock of 4D that is a side effect of the event.

Per cattle its 50 liters of blood, which is stolen - without spilling a drop - [they think blood must be taken] before they take out genitalia, face, tongue with surgical precision.

Couple dozen yards away lie the bones of the second cattle. One neat pile. No scavengers, no predators got to this animal not tore it into pieces and not dragged it all over the place.

Five cattle all. No mistakes, no blood drops. No carnivore teeth marks on the bones.

Animals even leave the bones there in a nice untouched pile,

which bones are usually scattered all over the place when wolves take cattle. Much more scattered nothing like this.

Laser is used for the cuts, because the cattle hair is singed and curled right around the precision cuts. Cow laying there in four inches of snow and no tracks. Not one drop of blood on the snow. Cow has zero blood in it:
- My vet, she said probably the only way, you could get all of the blood out of the animal was to bleed it, while it's alive so that the animal pumps all the blood out.
- That's a horrible way to go, huh? - says Knapp
Farmer:
- Yeah.
Farmer:
- I know the rest of my bulls that were in this pasture were petrified to death. They were scared to death, and my bulls are never scared. I can pet 'em. If you're a cowman, that'll tell you more than anything else. Something super weird happened to scare those bulls that bad.

Knapp:
- A long time ago, one of the first investigative reporters to look into this called it an alien harvest.
Farmer:
- And I don't know that that's what it is, but it sure seems like somebody is harvesting bits and pieces from cattle. And it's not the same pieces that we harvest.
This is how I found this cow, dead with her head up.

They were about six months apart. December and then July. Gravity will tell you that that head's gonna go to the ground the instant she dies. Well, that cow died, and her head's still in the air.
- This is really weird and creepy.
- Yeah.
- Why is it not a person? Why do you know it's not people?
- I've been a cowman for 70 years. I know what everything looks like that can kill a cow.
- You can't pick a 2,500-pound bull up and position him in that position and then do all the cuts and take everything off and drain him of blood without leavin' a track. It just can't happen.

If whatever came in and killed this bull was leaving no tracks, what's to keep 'em from killing ten more tomorrow, you know? Uh…
- I mean, it'll wipe you out, you know?
- Or people.
- Yeah.
- It's like a harvest.
- It is.
- Like they're harvesting.

-----------
29m:46sec: Buck video with alien walking in real-time
Large buck stares to farmer recording it on his phone and a small alien slowly walks right behind the buck. Walking Alien on video visible as a "log" to the right of the bucks leg. Alien is moving on video to behind that bush to the right in the image:

If a human does that the large buck bolts instantly. This one however just stays there frozen. Then seconds later calmly walks away.

Everyone is powerless. No police help. Farmers just hope IT goes away to feed elsewhere next time.
32m:56sec:
Colm A. Kelleher Ph.D - professor of cattle mutilations.
- Corpses melting into the Earth is typical!
Kelleher & NIDS set up a camera on the corpse:
- And for two nights in a row, nothing came near the cow, and this was… this was a place that was full of coyotes.

- I think the cattle mutilation phenomenon is, by its nature, deceptive. Whatever is doing this are incredibly skilled. They're surgically adept. They have, uh, equipment that is very sophisticated. I mean, this was a… a ritualistic display of raw power and finesse. I mean, it basically is a form of psychological intimidation. The evidence suggests that they're always one step ahead.

Knapp:
- Here's one of the thoughts that rattles around in my head at night. If they can do this to livestock, what does it mean for us?
Kelleher:
- Human hunting case of The Colares, Brazil, case
was very different. Colares Island in northeastern Brazil was besieged for somewhere between six months and 12 months by dozens and dozens of different-sized objects - UFO -, and they were hunting HUNDREDS of people.
{Lots of government secrecy from probably a government colluding with aliens.}
- The witnesses won't talk, the people who were injured won't talk.

But now that the Human Sentient Cattle started to resist, things are changing and word is now getting out.

Aliens are still hunting people in Brazil, till today! With their cattle-mutilating lasers that they used on cattle. They also use it on humans.

So let's go to Brazil and investigate!
(Episode 1 ends)

Episode 2..

{Special mention}:

Human Mutilations & Missing Children​

 

[tschai]

Farmer - who lost the expensive cattle - spots a two story UFO just sitting within 100 yards of the house:
- It had green rectangle windows around the middle, and round red ones around the top.
He decides to shoot it and goes into the house to get his rifle. When he puts the scope on the parked alien ship, the entire ship just disappears: POP!

Would have been nice if he had taken a picture instead of trying to shoot at it. Results probably would have been the same anyway, but still- his rifle would have been useless.