Imminent Alien Disclosure?

[genero81]

Dark Journalist is sometimes interesting, but strikes me as way too paranoid for his own good.

I think I know what you mean here. He tends to think the whistleblowers like Grusch are part of the disinformation of the gatekeepers to control the narrative. He also tends to kind of go off the rails, or so it seems to me, about Atlantis. I mean, unless he has a solid channel source, I don't see how you can know much of anything about that subject. Maybe he does, but if so he doesn't mention it.

 

[axj]

I think I know what you mean here. He tends to think the whistleblowers like Grusch are part of the disinformation of the gatekeepers to control the narrative.

Considering what we know, that does not seem unlikely.

He also tends to kind of go off the rails, or so it seems to me, about Atlantis. I mean, unless he has a solid channel source, I don't see how you can know much of anything about that subject. Maybe he does, but if so he doesn't mention it.

He does mention his sources on Atlantis. It is mostly Cayce and Rudolph Steiner, as well as uncovering little-known aspects of Atlantis research in Central America and the Caribbean in the 19th and 20th centuries. He does seem to think that Atlantis was basically centered in the Caribbean, which I think is questionable.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Considering what we know, that does not seem unlikely.

I think it's just the opposite. Considering what we know, everything Grusch and Elizondo have stated about what they know meshes nicely what "what we know," i.e. what we have determined is most likely to be true. I'll change my mind if and when they change their narrative, but until that happens, that's where I stand on the issue.

If you want a better idea of who is gatekeeping, I've got a few names for you: Mick West, Steven Greenstreet, Sean Kirkpatrick, Sue Gough, Mike Turner...

 

[axj]

Considering what we know, everything Grusch and Elizondo have stated about what they know meshes nicely what "what we know," i.e. what we have determined is most likely to be true.

We know that this is one of the most highly classified topics at some of the most powerful and malicious organizations. Grusch and Elizondo were allowed to reveal certain information at this time and the question is why. I don't think that the answer to that is anything positive for humanity, just like the Dark Jounalist is suspecting.

The most likely reason is indeed that they want to use the UFO threat narrative to grant themselves emergency powers, similar to the Enabling Act in Nazi Germany.

An eventual 'official' revelation that we are not alone may have some positive consequences, but I think the STS controllers determined that they can steer the narrative in the desired direction.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

We know that this is one of the most highly classified topics at some of the most powerful and malicious organizations. Grusch and Elizondo were allowed to reveal certain information at this time and the question is why. I don't think that the answer to that is anything positive for humanity, just like the Dark Jounalist is suspecting.

Since the late 1940s there have always been insiders who want disclosure of a sort, and there have always been leaks. Since 2017 those people have been networking. Many of them are or were fairly highly placed in the executive branch. Grusch and Elizondo were "allowed" to reveal certain information because they have the support of one or more factions, and they are smart, i.e. they know how the system works and how to work the system.

The most likely reason is indeed that they want to use the UFO threat narrative to grant themselves emergency powers, similar to the Enabling Act in Nazi Germany.

An eventual 'official' revelation that we are not alone may have some positive consequences, but I think the STS controllers determined that they can steer the narrative in the desired direction.

No doubt there are factions that want to control the narrative no matter what, and they will attempt to do so. That has no bearing on Elizondo or Grusch's motivations or sincerity.

 

[axj]

Since the late 1940s there have always been insiders who want disclosure of a sort, and there have always been leaks. Since 2017 those people have been networking. Many of them are or were fairly highly placed in the executive branch. Grusch and Elizondo were "allowed" to reveal certain information because they have the support of one or more factions, and they are smart, i.e. they know how the system works and how to work the system.

I think it is a way too optimistic view that the supposed pro-disclosure faction within the PTB wants to do it for non-ulterior motives. What Grusch and Elizondo were allowed to disclose seems to have been carefully selected to fit a certain narrative and outcome, which I expect to be malicious in nature. Just like pretty much everything else coming from the various competing power factions within the PTB.

The "disclosure faction" is probably simply the one that wants to use the UFO threat card to get more power, while the "non-disclosure faction" thinks that continued secrecy is preferable.

That has no bearing on Elizondo or Grusch's motivations or sincerity.

Whether or not the two are sincere and are just being used for this operation is not really that important, in my opinion. What matters are the possible reasons for this limited disclosure by the PTB or some faction within it.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I think it is a way too optimistic view that the supposed pro-disclosure faction within the PTB wants to do it for non-ulterior motives.

Factions, plural. It is a way too simplistic view to think that everyone associated with UAP programs is a douchebag.

What Grusch and Elizondo were allowed to disclose seems to have been carefully selected to fit a certain narrative and outcome, which I expect to be malicious in nature.

Which narrative do you think it fits, and which narratives do you think it doesn't fit?

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

Which narrative do you think it fits, and which narratives do you think it doesn't fit?

I feel ( only Feel ) that information given publicly by these whistleblowers or others so far is not sufficient yet to say which narrative they are pushing, good bad nor indifferent. Like I say it's only a feeling.