Iodine and Potassium Iodide

[monotonic]

Interestingly enough, I've noticed that while taking Iodine my body pretty much shuts down around 10:30pm - 11pm. Whereas before I was pretty indifferent in regards to sleep around bedtime. I don't have issues falling asleep when I get into bed but there usually was never a point to where I couldn't hold my eyes open. Same thing with melatonin. I didn't feel that different when taking melatonin or it was intermittent. Sometimes I would get drowsy while others I would be a little groggy in the morning.

However, with Iodine and no melatonin there is a definite "I better get in the bed or I'm waking up the next day right HERE". I haven't had that nice "sleeping like a baby" feeling since I was a child. And it's not a feeling of being tired throughout the day but rather a definite shutdown time at night. So what you've found there Konstantin sheds more light on some of my recent experiences. Thank you!

I noticed the same thing when I started the ketogenic diet. Maybe our observations have the same cause - activation of the thyroid?

 

[kanader]

I need some advice from those of you who already had a blood test. Since I’ve started with Iodine, I never had one done and I think it's important to know where one stand. This will also certainly help with any future dosage. So I'm planning of having one and found a Lab who run all kind of test for institution (Hospital, Clinic) and for private. Since I'm planning on doing this without going through my Doc (too conservative), the Lab need to know exactly what kind of test I'm looking for . Could someone please point me to the right direction here ?
Is there a standard Thyroid test ? Like the below quote from Konstantin ? Or should I be more specific?

I have just received the Blood test results.

Here they are in a comparation with the previous ones, 1 month earlier.

26-01-2016 22-02-2016

T3 - 4.9 pmol/L [ 3.3 - 6.1] T3 - 5.0 pmol/L [ 3.3 - 6.1]
T4 - 15.8 pmol/L [ 10-25] T4 - 16.9 pmol/L [ 10-25]
TSH - 5.76 ulU/ml [ 0.4 - 4.0] TSH - 2.74 ulU/ml [ 0.4 - 4.0]


Total Lipids 16.1g/L [ 5.0 - 10.0] Total Lipids 16.0g/L [ 5.0 - 10.0]
Triglycerides 3.14 mmol/L [ up to 2.0 ] Triglycerides 3.68 mmol/L [ up to 2.0 ]
Total Cholesterol 12.6 mmol/L [ up to 5.7 ] Total Cholesterol 12.2 mmol/L [ up to 5.7 ]
HDL - 0.68 mmol/L [ 0.9 - 2.0] HDL - 0.65 mmol/L [ 0.9 - 2.0]
LDL - 9.9 mmol/L [ up to 3.9] LDL - 2.28 mmol/L [ up to 3.9]

What about heavy metals? Is there any standard test for neurotoxins ? Or just mentioning their names suffice ?

Thank you all !

When i visited a doctors office and i complained about pain in a thyroid area, and he give me one paper where he write what kind of test should lab do. He wrote the TSH, T3 , t4 , blood lipid status and some more things but i dont remember now.. With that paper i went to a lab and they have done the tests that the doctor recomended.

Maybe you can just go there and explain to them what you want to be tested and they will recommend you what tests and how much it will cost. I dont know how is that functioning where you live.

I need some advice from those of you who already had a blood test. Since I’ve started with Iodine, I never had one done and I think it's important to know where one stand. This will also certainly help with any future dosage.

You find your dosage from trial and error, seeing how you feel vs detox symptoms, never pushing too high too fast. Unless you have a specific disease or strong suspicions of hyperthyroidism, I don't see any point in doing blood tests with thyroid panel now. Ideally, those should be done 6-8 months after taking iodine regularly.

Blood tests is something that could be considered after there is troubleshooting despite working on detox symptoms and taking a break from iodine.

For heavy metals, you'll need a specialized lab like this one:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,40814.0.html (the website is microtraceminerals.com)

Thank you both for the reply and also for the link Gaby. Try and error it is. ok Then I will wait ‘til summer for the blood test. Hopefully all will be more clear by then.

 

[Aiming]

Small update to my post here: The swelling of the axillary lymph nodes on the right side is gone, on the left side it's still there, but not hurting anymore. I've applied iodine topically and am taking a homeopathic remedy that helps flush out lymphatic fluid. I also had a sonography of my thyroid gland and the result that came back is that the gland is too small compared to normal sizes.

Here's the lab result:

Clinical indications with justificatory medical indication: dythyreosis.

Sonography of thyroid gland (08.03.16):

volume of thyroid gland: right ca. 8ml
left ca. 5ml
total ca. 13ml

(Normal volumes of thyroid gland up to 22ml for women and 28ml for men)

Finding:

Reflex structure homogenous, but slighty hypoechoic

Assessment:

The small size of the thyroid along with the hypechoic reflex basic structure of the sonography could point to a autoimmunethyroiditis.

When I asked him what he thought is the reason for the small size, the doc said it could be due to a lack of selenium. I don't remember reading anything related to a thyroid gland that's too small, though - does anyone know something about it? Is it advisable to up my selenium?

The result of the blood work showed nothing conspicuous, but it wasn't a complete blood count, just the basic one.

 

[A Jay]

Went to the health clinic at my work this morning to have some blood work done. Having my thyroid hormones tested, iron levels, magnesium, and a few others. Will report back with my results when they come in, and will be reviewing peoples' results here to see what I should be looking for and how to interpret them.

What I found rather exciting was that as I was explaining that I was trying to get as comprehensive a view of my body as possible I mentioned that I had ordered a heavy metals test and the clinician suddenly lit up. She and I started talking about heavy metal toxicity and all the ways we get exposed to toxic chemicals and metals. She had apparently been a dental assistant in the 70s, and was mixing up mercury amalgams for the dentist without any sort of protection from the vapors. She gave me a few things to look into that she's been using to help detox, and definitely recommended sticking with the chlorella and cilantro. She even told me that she doesn't order vaccines or flu shots for the people at work because she doesn't want to kill people because she knows how toxic and harmful they are! To quote, "They're trying to kill us." Talk about a nice surprise!

Anyways, here were the supplements she suggested:

-Mesosilver
-BioAge algae concentrates
-Carnivora

The algae concentrates look interesting, I've never heard of a Venus Fly Trap phytonutrient extract, and hadn't thought about taking colloidal silver. Will do some more research.

 

[mugatea]

Sorry to be a bother, but can someone re-inform me of the salt water procedure? Is it a spoonful of salt in water first thing in the morning then breakie flollwed by iodine then another saltwater drink an hour later? I read it somewhere on here but cant find it. I tried the salt water drink today, just half a spoonful, couldnt do it till an hour after waking up though as I'm funny first thing, but have done it twice today, surprised that I could do it without too much effort. Could almost swear I felt calmer after it... not sure. Anyway, cant say for certain but I dont seem to be getting any or much iodine detox symptoms. I've kinda be on and off it but using it regular since November, just starting the saltwater though as I was kinda repulsed by it.

 

[Foxx]

I've applied iodine topically and am taking a homeopathic remedy that helps flush out lymphatic fluid.

Which homeopathic remedy are you taking and what strength? I think I have some swollen lymph nodes so I'm interested in looking into it.

When I asked him what he thought is the reason for the small size, the doc said it could be due to a lack of selenium. I don't remember reading anything related to a thyroid gland that's too small, though - does anyone know something about it? Is it advisable to up my selenium?

I was muscle tested by the Applied Kinesiologist I was seeing for about a year and a half and he told me to take 4 selenium per day for about a month I think, so it seems that there are some cases where more selenium may be helpful. I was taking this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009EA6FZG

So that was 800mcg per day for me. I read some debate on the forms of selenium provided in that one, but I didn't experience any negative results.


Quick update from me: Tyrosine so far is the longest running co-factor I've needed, and I'm still taking 3/day of the Jarrow N-aceytl Tyrosine. I ran out over the weekend and it felt like my thyroid function dropped and I felt much more susceptible to the cold, then bumped by dosage up to 6/day for two days and am back down to 3/day.

 

[Aiming]

I've applied iodine topically and am taking a homeopathic remedy that helps flush out lymphatic fluid.

Which homeopathic remedy are you taking and what strength? I think I have some swollen lymph nodes so I'm interested in looking into it.

It's called Lymphdiaral, recommended by above mentioned doctor. It's a composite of several remedies. You can buy it here, though perhaps you'll find a better price somewhere else, since I paid much less here in Europe.

I was muscle tested by the Applied Kinesiologist I was seeing for about a year and a half and he told me to take 4 selenium per day for about a month I think, so it seems that there are some cases where more selenium may be helpful. I was taking this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009EA6FZG

So that was 800mcg per day for me. I read some debate on the forms of selenium provided in that one, but I didn't experience any negative results.

Thanks a lot for sharing, Foxx! I'm gonna try upping the dose for some time, while watching for any signs that indicate I'm taking too much.

 

[Aiming]

Sorry to be a bother, but can someone re-inform me of the salt water procedure? Is it a spoonful of salt in water first thing in the morning then breakie flollwed by iodine then another saltwater drink an hour later?

It's 0,5 - 1 teaspoon of salt first thing in the morning. You should wait at least an hour until you take iodine. You can also divide your salt doses thus:
1x in the morning and 1x in the afternoon (but don't do more than 1 teaspoon).

I've kinda be on and off it but using it regular since November, just starting the saltwater though as I was kinda repulsed by it.

Just make it a habit and the repulsion should abate.

 

[Foxx]

It's called Lymphdiaral, recommended by above mentioned doctor. It's a composite of several remedies. You can buy it here, though perhaps you'll find a better price somewhere else, since I paid much less here in Europe.

Thanks Aiming! I'll look into that.

 

[mugatea]

...I've applied iodine topically and am taking a homeopathic remedy that helps flush out lymphatic fluid. I also had a sonography of my thyroid gland and the result that came back is that the gland is too small compared to normal sizes.

Did you use Lugol's? I applied some Lugol's to a wart/skin tag/thingy and is stained the skin and its still stained 3 days later, did wonder at one point about applying it my face to help with my weather beaten skin - thank god I didnt!

*Thanks Aiming

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[Aiming]

...I've applied iodine topically and am taking a homeopathic remedy that helps flush out lymphatic fluid. I also had a sonography of my thyroid gland and the result that came back is that the gland is too small compared to normal sizes.

Did you use Lugol's? I applied some Lugol's to a wart/skin tag/thingy and is stained the skin and its still stained 3 days later, did wonder at one point about applying it my face to help with my weather beaten skin - thank god I didnt!

Yes, I used 2-4 drops Lugol's 12,5% diluted with water, but measured the ratio by eye not by counting the water drops. The staining of the skin is normal and will vanish after some time. As for your skin, I often use coconut oil with good results, especially when put on before going to bed.

 

[Rhythmik]

Sorry I'm sure this has been answered but how much is 1 drop?

I thought it was 0.5ml but the pharmacist was pretty adamant that it's 0.3ml

Edit: I think I mean 0.05ml. I just took a 0.05ml dose but there was about 3-4 drops coming out of the metric syringe/dropper.

 

[Miss.K]

...I've applied iodine topically and am taking a homeopathic remedy that helps flush out lymphatic fluid. I also had a sonography of my thyroid gland and the result that came back is that the gland is too small compared to normal sizes.

Did you use Lugol's? I applied some Lugol's to a wart/skin tag/thingy and is stained the skin and its still stained 3 days later, did wonder at one point about applying it my face to help with my weather beaten skin - thank god I didnt!

Yes, I used 2-4 drops Lugol's 12,5% diluted with water, but measured the ratio by eye not by counting the water drops. The staining of the skin is normal and will vanish after some time. As for your skin, I often use coconut oil with good results, especially when put on before going to bed.

C vitamin powder (pure Ascorbic Acid) can be used to remove stains from Lugos Iodine (it works both on the table and the skin) Just put a little on the spot, and rub with a wet cloth , and voilá, spot dissapear :)

 

[Gaby]

The small size of the thyroid along with the hypechoic reflex basic structure of the sonography could point to a autoimmunethyroiditis.

When I asked him what he thought is the reason for the small size, the doc said it could be due to a lack of selenium.

Well, it was speculated in the ultrasound report that it could be a "autoimmune thyroiditis". That means, the docs were suspecting a condition like Hashimoto's. A conservative approach was hinted, i.e. selenium supplementation.

We have discussed how it is very important to supplement the cofactors and selenium when there is suspicion of autoimmune conditions involving the thyroid gland. Going VERY easy with the iodine is of utmost importance as well. Any excess iodine given too soon might lit up the fire. All the iodine has to be metabolized without excess oxidative stress. So the important thing is to calm down oxidative stress, going very slowly with the iodine.

More info in this post:

Iodine and Hashimoto’s Autoimmune Thyroid Disease
_http://jeffreydachmd.com/2014/02/iodine-hashimotos-autoimmune-thyroid-disease/

Potassium iodide might be safer than lugol in case there are reactions that are not manageable with standard measures to deal with detox reactions.

I would concentrate on selenium supplementation + cofactors. Do work on the detox and go very easy on the iodine.

How much lugol are you taking?

 

[Gaby]

I was muscle tested by the Applied Kinesiologist I was seeing for about a year and a half and he told me to take 4 selenium per day for about a month I think, so it seems that there are some cases where more selenium may be helpful. I was taking this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009EA6FZG

So that was 800mcg per day for me. I read some debate on the forms of selenium provided in that one, but I didn't experience any negative results.

Another person has reported the same to me. She went to a kinesiologist and a higher than recommended dose of selenium was the suggestion. The kinesiologist tested twice just to make sure. The suggested dose, although high, seems safe in this case. At least for 2-3 weeks before going back to the recommended standard dose and/or testing again.