Iodine and Potassium Iodide

[shellycheval]

Gaby

Maybe it is the intense exercise? It can be a source of body stress if there are health issues. Sometimes one can tolerate a fair amount of intense exercise, but passed a threshold, the body will just collapse for days or months on end before recovering again. I noticed this specially as I got older. That is why I cut down drastically my Martial Arts practice, it was simply too much.

I've been doing this yoga program: Richard Hittleman's Yoga: 28 Day Exercise Plan
https://www.amazon.com/Richard-Hittlemans-Yoga-Exercise-Plan/dp/0553277480
It took me nearly two months, but now I'm on my 27th day and positive that I found something that works for me and not against me.

In 1972 I bought Richard Hittleman's Yoga: 28 Day Exercise Plan and followed it faithfully and even when I was young active and fairly flexible; it made an amazing improvement in my health and feeling of well -being. Over the years I have watched the rise in popularity of yoga and all the variations and fancy programs, both in studios and on TV, and think that this book is still the best yoga program out there.

It is classic and uncomplicated. The exercises are taught in steps so as you gently become more limber, the pose will ask for a little more bend/stretch so you progress at your own pace and do not have the added stress of trying to keep up with others in a studio situation. The directions are simple, direct and clear, and though they are directed at a female audience the exercises work for everyone. I confess I have had periods of years where I have drifted away from doing a regular routine, but still stretch out in a yoga way, and the ability to relax individual muscles and areas of my body has stayed with me and been commented by doctors and practitioners. When they would tell me to "relax," I would hear them say "wow" you really know how to let go of tension.

Your comments Gaby are timely as I was just thinking I need to get back into a regular routine of yoga practice as I really am getting too old and stiff! I found my book the other day and have been psyching up by staring at it for a few seconds and remembering how good it feels to do it everyday.

Also, although the book teaches a 28 day program, one can stay with a lesson for as many days as it takes to comfortably progress--one of Hittleman's primary teachings is that yoga movements should never be forced or go past the point that your body will comfortably allow.

 

[Ollie]

Gaby

I've been doing this yoga program: Richard Hittleman's Yoga: 28 Day Exercise Plan
https://www.amazon.com/Richard-Hittlemans-Yoga-Exercise-Plan/dp/0553277480
It took me nearly two months, but now I'm on my 27th day and positive that I found something that works for me and not against me.

It is classic and uncomplicated. The exercises are taught in steps so as you gently become more limber, the pose will ask for a little more bend/stretch so you progress at your own pace and do not have the added stress of trying to keep up with others in a studio situation. The directions are simple, direct and clear, and though they are directed at a female audience the exercises work for everyone. ...

Also, although the book teaches a 28 day program, one can stay with a lesson for as many days as it takes to comfortably progress--one of Hittleman's primary teachings is that yoga movements should never be forced or go past the point that your body will comfortably allow.

As a male I can happily endorse this book as a form of yoga that works for everyone, even though I struggle to do some of the poses, I can see improvement from doing yoga this way. Highly recommended.

 

[Thebull]

Gaby

I've been doing this yoga program: Richard Hittleman's Yoga: 28 Day Exercise Plan
https://www.amazon.com/Richard-Hittlemans-Yoga-Exercise-Plan/dp/0553277480
It took me nearly two months, but now I'm on my 27th day and positive that I found something that works for me and not against me.

It is classic and uncomplicated. The exercises are taught in steps so as you gently become more limber, the pose will ask for a little more bend/stretch so you progress at your own pace and do not have the added stress of trying to keep up with others in a studio situation. The directions are simple, direct and clear, and though they are directed at a female audience the exercises work for everyone. ...

Also, although the book teaches a 28 day program, one can stay with a lesson for as many days as it takes to comfortably progress--one of Hittleman's primary teachings is that yoga movements should never be forced or go past the point that your body will comfortably allow.

As a male I can happily endorse this book as a form of yoga that works for everyone, even though I struggle to do some of the poses, I can see improvement from doing yoga this way. Highly recommended.

I've been practicing yoga watching you tube videos and just copying. I've enjoyed this and seen improvement. It may be worth me following a set program so I'm going give this book a try.

 

[agirl]

I was exercised 5 Tibetian for many years,and after nasty fly sopped,was out of any strength. Recommend these exercise, takes
only 20 a day. Here is good explanation : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KOia7YMwPAminutes

 

[Learner]

Thank you for your replies, hlat, goyacobol, Konstantin and Nico! The information you shared is very much appreciated - I will read through the links, digesting the information you shared in the posts and am going to answer in more detail as soon as I can get to it around the weekend.

For the time being I think I will stop the iodine (until I've found a better route), while taking plenty of salt water (one large cup in the morning) and the co-factors vitamin C (2 to 4 capsules a day), selenium (200mcg) and magnesium (950mg - 1 capsule (425mg) in the morning, one in the evening). Today I went like this (it was my iodine-free day anyway), with drinking lots of water, and I am feeling better already, emotionally also.

 

[PERLOU]

Pour les Français, j'ai trouvé ce lien concernant les 5 rites Yoga Tibétains :
http://www.techniquesdemeditation.com/les-cinq-tibetains-cinq-exercices-de-yoga-pour-votre-bien-etre/


For the French, I found this link concerning the 5 Tibetan Yoga rites:
http://www.techniquesdemeditation.com/les-cinq-tibetains-cinq-exercices-de-yoga-pour-votre-bien-etre/

 

[Gaby]

We discussed yoga and some resources yesterday on the H&W show:

The Health & Wellness Show: Yoga Demystified
https://www.sott.net/article/348804-The-Health-Wellness-Show-Yoga-Demystified

It was good :)

 

[Thebull]

We discussed yoga and some resources yesterday on the H&W show:

The Health & Wellness Show: Yoga Demystified
https://www.sott.net/article/348804-The-Health-Wellness-Show-Yoga-Demystified

It was good :)

Wrong thread to hijack it with yoga chat! Apologies for me going off topic, though I will check out the show when I get time.

 

[Learner]

Thank you for your replies, hlat, goyacobol, Konstantin and Nico! The information you shared is very much appreciated - I will read through the links, digesting the information you shared in the posts and am going to answer in more detail as soon as I can get to it around the weekend.

For the time being I think I will stop the iodine (until I've found a better route), while taking plenty of salt water (one large cup in the morning) and the co-factors vitamin C (2 to 4 capsules a day), selenium (200mcg) and magnesium (950mg - 1 capsule (425mg) in the morning, one in the evening). Today I went like this (it was my iodine-free day anyway), with drinking lots of water, and I am feeling better already, emotionally also.

Here is a more detailed reply now:

I have started the iodine protocol as well two weeks ago, with 12,5 mg Iodoral tablets. They feel more safe to me since I believe I still have amalgam fillings (am going to sort this issue out with a holistic dentist). Also, I believe I react to iodine strongly (when starting to use iodized natural salt in the end of 2015, my energy seemed to be elevated - and that was just a tiny bit of iodine compared to the one in the protocol).

If you are sensitive to iodine, even 12.5mg at once may be too much for you. In the heel dosing protocol for sensitive people, people are putting 1 drop of 2% Lugols on the heel of their feet so that's 2.5 mg. Even 1 drop of 5% Lugols is 6.25mg. So you are taking 2 to 5 times higher amount compared with heel dosing for sensitive people. Maybe you could consider lowering your dose.

Last year when I started with Iodine I had a very strong reaction to it. Even a tiny dose made my TSH level disrupted, Pain in the thyroid, and as you said an emotional sensitivity.

I took a break for some time and then started a heel dosing. Even then with a dose of just one or 2 drops on a heel i have sensitivity reactions. So over time i switched to oral consumption and now i can tolerate 7 drops of 5% Lugols without severe reactions.
My point is, take it very slowly and listen to your body. See how your body reacts to Lugols. Take cofactors, and especially selenium and help your body to detoxify. Very important is to help your liver with supplements to accomplish this.

We are all different and we all need a different amount of iodine. Some more some less. Find out your dosage that will be best for your body.

Thank you for your points, hlat and Konstantin! I thought, Iodoral would be okay for me, since people here who switched to it don't seem to experience such extreme side effect like they did with Lugol's. Therefore I thought, Iodoral would not be so intense for me either. After all, it's only a mix of 5mg iodine and 7,5 mg KI! But then that seems to have proven wrong for me, it is indeed too much for my system right now, even the Iodoral form.

Konstantin, thank you also for sharing your experience again. I can remember reading it last year in this thread, and it sounded very rough. It's great to hear that you were able to gradually accustom your body to iodine by taking the route you described. I am also thinking of doing the heel dosing protocol with 2% of Lugol's, as soon as I've gotten hold of it. As to the co-factors, I make sure to take selenium everyday, as vitamin C, magnesium and the salt water (as described above).

You are also very right about the importance of listening to the body - a necessity which has presented itself to me during the last months. I try to sense with it, which ones of the other supplements I mentioned should be added to my daily regimen, and how many. The body awareness may come in handy, when finding out the right iodine dosage for me. It's on my training schedule for sure!

Taking care of the liver also is something which has come to my mind lately. I will look if I can take hold of milk thistle. Am going to do some reading about the coffee and probiotic enemas as soon as possible. Brownstein's book is also still on my reading list, as well as catching up with the rest of this thread while revising my notes already taken; maybe it's secure to go and maintain the heel dosing while doing all that reading.

A last question to the heel dosing: Did you apply the Lugol's-with-water solution on your heel with your fingers, or did you use any other means which you found more handy?

 

[Konstantin]

Thank you for your replies, hlat, goyacobol, Konstantin and Nico! The information you shared is very much appreciated - I will read through the links, digesting the information you shared in the posts and am going to answer in more detail as soon as I can get to it around the weekend.

For the time being I think I will stop the iodine (until I've found a better route), while taking plenty of salt water (one large cup in the morning) and the co-factors vitamin C (2 to 4 capsules a day), selenium (200mcg) and magnesium (950mg - 1 capsule (425mg) in the morning, one in the evening). Today I went like this (it was my iodine-free day anyway), with drinking lots of water, and I am feeling better already, emotionally also.

Here is a more detailed reply now:

I have started the iodine protocol as well two weeks ago, with 12,5 mg Iodoral tablets. They feel more safe to me since I believe I still have amalgam fillings (am going to sort this issue out with a holistic dentist). Also, I believe I react to iodine strongly (when starting to use iodized natural salt in the end of 2015, my energy seemed to be elevated - and that was just a tiny bit of iodine compared to the one in the protocol).

If you are sensitive to iodine, even 12.5mg at once may be too much for you. In the heel dosing protocol for sensitive people, people are putting 1 drop of 2% Lugols on the heel of their feet so that's 2.5 mg. Even 1 drop of 5% Lugols is 6.25mg. So you are taking 2 to 5 times higher amount compared with heel dosing for sensitive people. Maybe you could consider lowering your dose.

Last year when I started with Iodine I had a very strong reaction to it. Even a tiny dose made my TSH level disrupted, Pain in the thyroid, and as you said an emotional sensitivity.

I took a break for some time and then started a heel dosing. Even then with a dose of just one or 2 drops on a heel i have sensitivity reactions. So over time i switched to oral consumption and now i can tolerate 7 drops of 5% Lugols without severe reactions.
My point is, take it very slowly and listen to your body. See how your body reacts to Lugols. Take cofactors, and especially selenium and help your body to detoxify. Very important is to help your liver with supplements to accomplish this.

We are all different and we all need a different amount of iodine. Some more some less. Find out your dosage that will be best for your body.

Thank you for your points, hlat and Konstantin! I thought, Iodoral would be okay for me, since people here who switched to it don't seem to experience such extreme side effect like they did with Lugol's. Therefore I thought, Iodoral would not be so intense for me either. After all, it's only a mix of 5mg iodine and 7,5 mg KI! But then that seems to have proven wrong for me, it is indeed too much for my system right now, even the Iodoral form.

Konstantin, thank you also for sharing your experience again. I can remember reading it last year in this thread, and it sounded very rough. It's great to hear that you were able to gradually accustom your body to iodine by taking the route you described. I am also thinking of doing the heel dosing protocol with 2% of Lugol's, as soon as I've gotten hold of it. As to the co-factors, I make sure to take selenium everyday, as vitamin C, magnesium and the salt water (as described above).

You are also very right about the importance of listening to the body - a necessity which has presented itself to me during the last months. I try to sense with it, which ones of the other supplements I mentioned should be added to my daily regimen, and how many. The body awareness may come in handy, when finding out the right iodine dosage for me. It's on my training schedule for sure!

Taking care of the liver also is something which has come to my mind lately. I will look if I can take hold of milk thistle. Am going to do some reading about the coffee and probiotic enemas as soon as possible. Brownstein's book is also still on my reading list, as well as catching up with the rest of this thread while revising my notes already taken; maybe it's secure to go and maintain the heel dosing while doing all that reading.

A last question to the heel dosing: Did you apply the Lugol's-with-water solution on your heel with your fingers, or did you use any other means which you found more handy?

I Applied the dose of one drop on the heel with the glass dropper from the bottle.It was a 5% solution but i used an empty bottle, diluted some quantity of it down to 1% and used it for some time. Then after some time, i increased the strength to 2.5%.

 

[Learner]

Learner,

While your dosage of Iodoral tablets is higher than some it may not be a problem since we are all different when it comes to sensitivity. I do notice that you are not taking some of the other co-factors such as Vitamin B2 & B3 or Chlorella/Spirulina. Besides being a "bug killer" I think of the Iodine as kind of the stir stick to release the toxins but then you need to take the co-factors to detox them from the body. I too want to consult a holistic dentist about the mercury in my amalgams.

Also recently the subject of PUFAs has been brought up and I see you are taking 1 Omeg 3 capsule. According to some research it may not be that useful to take the Omega 3 although Omega 3s are not as bad as Omega 6s which are the vegetable oils and seed oils. Omega 3s from fish oils can be difficult to keep fresh.

Thank you for your points as well, goyacobol, and also for the links about PUFAs. I read about Ant22's experience and what Keyhole wrote and my jaw dropped! Every day there's something new to learn, indeed! Maybe it doesn't hurt to leave the omega 3 capsule out for a while and look if it has an effect on my body. PUFAs make me further think about coconut oil, which I also have occasionally.

The recent experience with iodine also made clear to me that my body must really be loaded with toxins, mostly because I haven't found a proper route for constant detoxing due to figuring out the best way to go and due to lack of proper financial means. Only went for some occasional detox when visiting a FIR sauna in my city a couple of times or did a bath with epsom or other kinds of salts. I think, the easiest way for me right now to help with some constant detox is chlorella. There's also Bentonite clay with me already, which I take every two or three days now - I am a bit wary of it (and the chlorella also) due to my constipation problem.

I am not sure which one of the both - chlorella or Bentonite clay - is more effective. Maybe it is different for each individual and thus needs to be tested. The toxicity problem again seems to point to coffee enemas as well.

Hopefully you also will find a good dentist who will help you to get rid of this amalgam. I think, it's essential to eliminate such toxic sources to make detoxification effective. Best of luck to you!

I too have the same reaction with too much Iodine, and heel dosing seems to work fine, I am currently taking one drop orally of 5% Lugol's, but it seems just a little too much for now. I add some interesting article about selenium :

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/01/15/selenium-role.aspx : High-Selenium Yeast form seems very adequate for body assimilation
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/selenium-disease-prevention-benefits.aspx

Thank you also, Nico, for sharing your experience and the links about selenium. Unfortunately, the first one doesn't work. But the second one does, and I will look into it as soon as coming home this evening. Maybe I will find a working version of the first one via Google cache.

Hopefully you also will find the right dosage, which your body can currently best tolerate! It seems that sometimes (or even often) we have to take one ore more step(s) down from applying the amount which we assumed to be safe in our minds. It's a journey of figuring out, indeed!

 

[Learner]

I Applied the dose of one drop on the heel with the glass dropper from the bottle.It was a 5% solution but i used an empty bottle, diluted some quantity of it down to 1% and used it for some time. Then after some time, i increased the strength to 2.5%.

Konstantin, thank you very much for your reply on this - of course, that makes perfect sense doing it this way! And thank you also for your explanation of the process. Maybe it makes sense to get hold of 5% Lugol's as well and diluting it down to 1% as well. As Lynne Farrow suggested 1 drop of 5% on ten drops of water, is the water amount then something like 40 drops to get down to 1%? (sorry, I am not a math genius...)

 

[Nico]

Thank you too, I just put 5% on my heel, and it seems a little harsh, I will dilute it. I think it's what you've said 40 drops for one drop of Lugol will be enough.

 

[genero81]

I went ahead and ordered the book you suggested. I've been wanting to try something different.

Just ignore the "woman talk". The book was published way back then, but the postures are universal for both men and women.

I was very pleased with the book. To compare, I searched for video tutorials of a particular technique, in the end the simple advice in the book worked better.

The book arrived Friday afternoon but I just cracked it open this morning. I've read through day one and at once am impressed by the precision of the instruction. Seems the author really knows his stuff! I will start the 28 day plan today. I'm quite excited actually. I know I need to do something much different from what I've been doing and this might just be the thing! Thanks for the recommendation. If you have any further comments about your own experience, I would be interested. :)

 

[hlat]

Thank you too, I just put 5% on my heel, and it seems a little harsh, I will dilute it. I think it's what you've said 40 drops for one drop of Lugol will be enough.

It's 4 drops of distilled water and 1 drop of 5% Lugol, to make 1% Lugol.