Iodine and Potassium Iodide
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ka
Padawan Learner
Dear Gaby, you ask “Have I tried other detox methods? “
In my college days I took tetracycline for years for a bad case of acne—which they would now call hidradenitis suppurativa on the face. It did nothing but lay me open to candida. In my thirties the acne finally yielded to Accutane treatment, which was essentially a long-term, physician-supervised overdose of vitamin A.
I’ve taken many courses of drugs for the candida: nystatin, sulfa. I’ve done the anti-candida diet, and I’m sure candida is still in me, although I do not show symptoms now. My guess is that I’m full of it in the dormant state, and getting rid of it all at once would kill me from heavy metal poisoning. But I really don’t know.
In later years I’ve taken lots of pro-biotics, as well. Never had much to show for them, although my gut functions reasonably well now. Still aches every morning, though. For years I ate yogurt for breakfast, and stopped when I associated it with chronic heartburn.
Of course, for decades I followed the “medical experts” advice to minimize intake of animal food, although I had sense enough never to want to be a vegetarian. I was raised on Crisco and margarine, I am sure I am full of bad PUFA’s . Just before the rash erupted, I had experimented with cooking with coconut oil rather than butter, as an attempt to clear some PUFA from my system. For awhile I thought the rash was a reaction to the coconut oil—but all the signs are that it is bromine detox. In any case, I stopped with the coconut oil immediately, but the rash lives on.
I’ve been diagnosed previously with “metabolic syndrome” and “fibromyalgia.” The doctor-prescribed treatments were ineffective at best; the metformin was downright pernicious. Dietary changes brought my blood sugar into line, and I show no symptoms of diabetes. The aches and pains attributed to fibro are still more or less with me.
I know I cast about for various remedies to help me lose weight and feel better over many years, mostly on the advice of people who clerked at the health food store; I remember taking EDTA for a good while, with no appreciable results.
I took lots of things targeted at improving methylation, without anything to show for it.
In 2010 a friend suggested I might benefit from iodine supplementation, and after doing some research on the internet I started taking Lugol’s 5%. Nothing but good results back then —improved cold tolerance, better energy level. I went through 2 bottles of it, and I would have been taking at least 2 drops a day, with no problems.
I switched to potassium iodide, however, because it is cheaper, without understanding the chemical difference between it and Lugols’s. For most of the time between about 2011 and 2016 I routinely took drops of KI every morning, with no problems whatsoever.
During the phase in which the Cass Forum focused on the ketogenic diet, I did, too; and that is a keeper. I experienced real improvement. It helped me overcome some worrying gut problems. I eat a breakfast of sausage and mushroom sautéed with onions and butter every morning. Lordy, I felt so much better after I started doing that! I boil bones, and eat the broth every day, and intend to do so for the rest of my life. I had actually spent some time in the ‘90’s on the Atkins diet, but neither then nor now have I succeeded in staying in ketosis for more than a few days.
When the forum was exploring the topic “Infection as cause of Auto-Immune disorders” I took a battery of enzymes, apple cider vinegar, and even ingested DMSO and turpentine, to address biofilm. Can’t report any striking results, other than a kind of stunned shock from my system at the insult of vinegar first thing in the morning. Curiously, even the turpentine went down easier than vinegar, for me.
I’m pretty sure that DMSA was part of my regimen for the first month or 2 of that protocol. Didn’t notice much from it.
I also took Neem, and did notice it was causing mild flu-like herx symptoms—so it must have been clearing something out. I drew the line at taking antibiotics—I figure I did more than enough of them in my youth.
That brings us to the present.
In my college days I took tetracycline for years for a bad case of acne—which they would now call hidradenitis suppurativa on the face. It did nothing but lay me open to candida. In my thirties the acne finally yielded to Accutane treatment, which was essentially a long-term, physician-supervised overdose of vitamin A.
I’ve taken many courses of drugs for the candida: nystatin, sulfa. I’ve done the anti-candida diet, and I’m sure candida is still in me, although I do not show symptoms now. My guess is that I’m full of it in the dormant state, and getting rid of it all at once would kill me from heavy metal poisoning. But I really don’t know.
In later years I’ve taken lots of pro-biotics, as well. Never had much to show for them, although my gut functions reasonably well now. Still aches every morning, though. For years I ate yogurt for breakfast, and stopped when I associated it with chronic heartburn.
Of course, for decades I followed the “medical experts” advice to minimize intake of animal food, although I had sense enough never to want to be a vegetarian. I was raised on Crisco and margarine, I am sure I am full of bad PUFA’s . Just before the rash erupted, I had experimented with cooking with coconut oil rather than butter, as an attempt to clear some PUFA from my system. For awhile I thought the rash was a reaction to the coconut oil—but all the signs are that it is bromine detox. In any case, I stopped with the coconut oil immediately, but the rash lives on.
I’ve been diagnosed previously with “metabolic syndrome” and “fibromyalgia.” The doctor-prescribed treatments were ineffective at best; the metformin was downright pernicious. Dietary changes brought my blood sugar into line, and I show no symptoms of diabetes. The aches and pains attributed to fibro are still more or less with me.
I know I cast about for various remedies to help me lose weight and feel better over many years, mostly on the advice of people who clerked at the health food store; I remember taking EDTA for a good while, with no appreciable results.
I took lots of things targeted at improving methylation, without anything to show for it.
In 2010 a friend suggested I might benefit from iodine supplementation, and after doing some research on the internet I started taking Lugol’s 5%. Nothing but good results back then —improved cold tolerance, better energy level. I went through 2 bottles of it, and I would have been taking at least 2 drops a day, with no problems.
I switched to potassium iodide, however, because it is cheaper, without understanding the chemical difference between it and Lugols’s. For most of the time between about 2011 and 2016 I routinely took drops of KI every morning, with no problems whatsoever.
During the phase in which the Cass Forum focused on the ketogenic diet, I did, too; and that is a keeper. I experienced real improvement. It helped me overcome some worrying gut problems. I eat a breakfast of sausage and mushroom sautéed with onions and butter every morning. Lordy, I felt so much better after I started doing that! I boil bones, and eat the broth every day, and intend to do so for the rest of my life. I had actually spent some time in the ‘90’s on the Atkins diet, but neither then nor now have I succeeded in staying in ketosis for more than a few days.
When the forum was exploring the topic “Infection as cause of Auto-Immune disorders” I took a battery of enzymes, apple cider vinegar, and even ingested DMSO and turpentine, to address biofilm. Can’t report any striking results, other than a kind of stunned shock from my system at the insult of vinegar first thing in the morning. Curiously, even the turpentine went down easier than vinegar, for me.
I’m pretty sure that DMSA was part of my regimen for the first month or 2 of that protocol. Didn’t notice much from it.
I also took Neem, and did notice it was causing mild flu-like herx symptoms—so it must have been clearing something out. I drew the line at taking antibiotics—I figure I did more than enough of them in my youth.
That brings us to the present.
ka said:
It surely has been a long road! How about saunas and re-mineralization afterwards?
I take my anti-oxidants, liver protection and minerals regularly. Every time I can, I take a cocktail with spirulina, vitamin C, glycine, leucine and blueberry powder. Then I take a green tea capsule and L-carnosine (to fight glycation). It feels very revitalizing.
I mostly do FIR saunas on occasions, but I'm hoping to do Finnish saunas at least a few times per month at the local spa. There are good prices and it is very tempting. When I tried in the past, it had felt great.
My only urine challenge test with DMSA showed toxic mercury levels on the top high range. I hope one day to have another test that will show that the mercury is gone.
ka
Padawan Learner
Hi, Gaby,
The closest I've been to a sauna in the past years is soaking in a hot bathtub, and driving home in a car that has been sitting in the sun for 8 hours in 100+ degree weather. Both experiences just drain the energy right out of me.
Would a sauna be better in some way?
The closest I've been to a sauna in the past years is soaking in a hot bathtub, and driving home in a car that has been sitting in the sun for 8 hours in 100+ degree weather. Both experiences just drain the energy right out of me.
Would a sauna be better in some way?
ka said:
It can be very healing:
https://www.sott.net/article/327135-The-Health-Wellness-Show-The-heat-is-on-Saunas-sunlight-and-sweatlodges
You can do a search of sauna in the sott database. There is good material there to weight in about this possibility.
ka said:
Thanks for sharing your story ka. You are doing everything you know to do and I am rooting for you to succeed. I think have had the bromoderma in a small dose that went away with some no scratching and Ivy Dry to cleanse the areas. It was on my legs around the spring of 2015 out of nowhere. I wasn't sure exactly what is was but your description sounds like what I was experiencing. It was very itchy and aggravating so I can't imagine how much you have been going through.
Ant22 said:
Hi Ant22, sorry for my late reply - only saw it recently (the same goes for answering the other replies below, which I will do later). Thank you for your concern and for sharing additional details of your experience. Great it is making a difference for you! :)
As in my case, yes, I left the omega-3s out for a while (with one exception on an evening a couple of days ago) but it is hard to say if and how it might have made a difference to me so far, as many factors can be involved in perceiving a difference. I would say, it makes me feel "better" - but that can come from other factors as well (recently started taking 5-HTP, the weather is becoming more sunny which means more vitamin D, and I am pausing iodine since a week now but will get back into the saddle soon again - with one drop of 1% Lugol's on my heel or, occasionally, in a glass of water).
Well, I have been giving food /supplement tolerances and intolerances some thought recently and I definitely agree with you that no size fits all. The reason why I decided to leave out omega 3 for a while was because after reading your exchange with Keyhole I received a strong 'sense' from my body awareness (or whatever) to try. I thought it hurt less to jump for leaving it out for a while than jumping on to take it when it was never taken before. But for making a definite decision you are right about researching the matter, for gaining more accurate assessment.
My theory / guess about tolerating things is as follows, and it comes from some experience of mine I followed with this so far. Body awareness / hunches seem to be a good guide, and it seemed to help to heed what it 'tells'. But it's quite an exercise to tune in to it, iodine seems to help with it (though it can make emotions, feelings, sensations pretty intense to me when I cross the sensitivity border as I did previously). So, currently I think, it does not only depend on a certain kind of ingredient in a certain kind of food, but also the combination with other ingredients, the processing procedure, when the food is taken, how often etc. Same seems to go with supplements (as I am currently inclined to think) - if a certain one is the right thing for one's specific makeup, what's added additionally, the certain kind of processing, and so on. In the end, it seems to come to a combination of research, testing, experience, body awareness etc.
Just my current view of those things :)
goyacobol said:[...]
Learner,
I just noticed your concern about coconut oil which I use and like. It is not really a PUFA as such it is a saturated fat and only contains minimal amount of polyunsaturated fat and monounsaturated fat. It has a high smoking point when heated as well. Olive oil is 78% monounsaturated fat oil and is a better choice than most other oils used in cooking and dressing for salads. I think we can learn more about the PUFAs and still find good alternatives.
Here is one site that has interesting facts: PUFA's: The Worst Thing For Your Health That You Eat Everyday
A short video by the same doctor on that site on YouTube is: How to Safely Recover From Vegetable Oils | Chris Masterjohn Lite
I really don't see coconut oil as bad or a PUFA. And as Ant22 mentions her case is individual to her genetics and possible allergies. I am paying attention to the PUFAs and have been without realizing they were termed PUFAs because the some of the most common ones such as corn oil, soybean oil and canola oil are vegetable oils that have been produced as GMO crops for quite awhile now.
Here is an oil chart that shows the fat contents of different oils:
Hope this gives you more to work with.
Hi goyacobol,
thank you for your explanation about the coconut oil and olive oil (which I used for cooking before diet change), as well as for the chart about the different oils (with the least PUFA amount in coconut oil) and the links about some PUFA info. Will check those out, learning never ends! :)
And aside from PUFAs, the business about oil from GMO crops is a whole additional kettle of concern in favor of the GMO industry, the pharma industry and elites, for keeping masses submissive due to their broken health (which is contributed to by GMOs and unhealthy fats) while their pockets are being emptied by all the three parties (and more) mentioned.
Ant22 said:
Thanks for the additional links, Ant22! As for the video link goyacobol posted: I just watched it and Chris Masterjohn makes an interesting point about vitamin E (which is often added to fish oils as means of preservation from rancidity - as an aside thought). Will also look into iodine as means to detox from PUFAs; hopefully it will speed up the process as several years of having to detox from them sounds pretty discouraging to me. And there are the times where it's hard to avoid them, for example when eating with family and friends, dining out etc. - external consideration and other factors come into play. Which also means more PUFAs in the body cells which then needs to be delivered out again...
Nienna said:
Thank you for pointing this out, Nienna. I think, I will try to leave out coconuts for a month and see how I feel about them. Indeed, it becomes more and more apparent that everyone is really unique, thus food (in-)tolerances (and those of supplements) can only be found out individually.
I know that iodine intake can kill fungi, bacteria, viruses, and detox heavy metals in the body. But interestingly iodine intake can take furthermore than that!
So, ultimately, it take us to reach widen reflection of consciousness!
So, that's reason, even though we have cleansed our body with iodine, still needs to take low doses of iodine to maintain it.
So, ultimately, it take us to reach widen reflection of consciousness!
Laura said:
So, that's reason, even though we have cleansed our body with iodine, still needs to take low doses of iodine to maintain it.
Got my lab results and my TSH is down to 4.7. It used to be over 10 a year or so ago. I started taking a bovine thyroid glandular supplement too, but it was just a few doses before the lab test. I continue to take a drop of iodine any now and then. It really gives more energy and mental clarity when I do.
Gaby said:
That is very close to my 4.5. Like I said, I wonder if that is the true normal level of TSH in people who have sufficient amounts of iodine in their diets? When I had 6, with two drops, I could feel a little warmth in my thyroid, like I'm overloading a bit, but since I dropped to one drop and my new level is 4.5 I don't feel anything.
