Foxx said:
Based on your other descriptions, I would lean towards a pathogen in the large intestine, either the transverse colon specifically or the large intestine in general, perhaps a parasite that has an affinity for fat and iodine. Alternatively, I have become pretty strongly convinced that in some cases, yeasts and molds can feed off of fat and ketones and even iodine (and form biofilms, making things significant more complicated), so it may be worth trying some anti-fungals to see if that helps. I've found neem (primarily for molds), oregano oil (primarily for yeasts--be careful with oregano oil since it can also kill good bacteria), undecenoic acid, and caprylic acid effective in these instances. Neem and undecenoic acid would be the first things I would try. If there's a biofilm, I believe the biofilm will have to be dealt with at the same time for any treatment to be effective, and this could make the treatment significantly more complicated.
Keyhole said:
Hi josev, am I correct in reading that your issues started around the same time that you began eating sweet potato and other carbohydrate?
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You should consider getting tested for H.pylori infection via stool test (and possibly breath test). Your doctor should be able to do this for you. From what I understand, H.pylori is pretty common and 90% of the time goes undiagnosed. For anyone else who also does not tolerate Hcl/digestive enzyme supplements - they should also test for H.pylori.
If you do have low stomach acid, then there is also a good chance that there is bacterial/yeast overgrowth in the small intestine. Stomach acid is the body's main way of defending against pathogens as they enter via the mouth, and when there is not much stomach acid, bacteria manage to survive and then colonise the intestine. Usually these are called "anaerobic", which means that they do not need oxygen to live. When fermentable fibres in carbohydrate foods are eaten, the undigested fibres are metabolised by the bacteria to produce hydrogen and methane gases. This is the bad smell from the gas that is produced. This is quite common, yet is notoriously difficult to overcome (I myself am still working on this issue).
Thanks Foxx and Keyhole for your comments, I could see some things for that. Keyhole, I will answer your question about carbohydrates intake below
Foxx said:
Are you also taking magnesium? If you are, you may need to increase the dose and find a dose that keeps bowel movements regular without inducing diarrhea. I am of the opinion that magnesium malate and magnesium glycinate are probably generally the best forms to take.
Yes, I’ve been taking 3-4 g of magnesium glycinate the last two months, and since a few days I also took it before the first meal.
Looking at H. pylori I realized that I have the symptoms of Dyspepsia: (in bold everything I did to deserve it)
Translated from spanish:
The causes of this condition are unknown in most patients. In some cases, symptoms may occur after an excessive meal or by ingestion of certain drugs that cause lesions on the gastric mucosa, such as aspirin or anti-inflammatory drugs.
It is also possible that the cause is due to psychological problems, such as stress, anxiety or depression.
Some patients with dyspepsia may have a wound or erosion, called an ulcer, in the stomach or in the duodenum, most of which is caused by a bacterium called Helicobacter pylori.
The causes for most cases of dyspepsia are excessive consumption of alcohol, intake of spicy foods, or very greasy, and ingest large amounts of food in a short time.
Other reasons may be smoking, high-fiber foods or consuming too much caffeine. (I started to drink coffee a teaspoon before the first meal some weeks ago)
Which in turn is related to aerophagia, swallowing air while eating, drinking, or smoking which can cause the same symptoms. I realize I do this some time ago, I swallow air when I drink hot tea or coffee and a month ago or so I started smoking tobacco, and maybe I don't do it right XD I left it for the moment, maybe isn't for me.
Another thing I did this year, in relation to the previous three years is to ate at least
one product with additives every day salami, palm heart or olives and a teaspoon of honey a day. (However I saw that two teaspoons a day could be good for digestion and infections)
Foxx said:
Sounds like you're taking niacin (which causes a "flush" that you're describing), whereas niacinamide was recommended for the iodine protocol, which doesn't cause a flush, so it may help to switch to niacinamide.
Here you can see that I did not read that article correctly. In addition to all previous causes,
I took 10 drops of iodine for almost a year without B3, NAC and Alpha-Lipoic Acid. Only herbs for the liver although not every day
Seeing what I can take for dyspepsia by H. Pylori, I saw that apple cider vinegar is for that too, but I will wait until I have it organic, meanwhile, I drink yesterday a shake with:
three cloves of garlic
half onion
5 sticks of celery
a fist of parsley
Two glasses, two hours before each meal (4 glasses in total)
I felt a very slight vibration in the eyes and brain but then nothing (my father and sister, who don't eat very well, had erupts with only half a drink) Half an hour before eating I had wormwood tea with cloves.
I'm no longer swollen and I'm going to the bathroom three days in a row, although with a slight constipation yet. I'm wait the supplements I named earlier, plus NAC, lemongrass and clove oil. It may not be necessary for H. pylori in my case, but it is good to have them for what I read.
P.D: Today when I woke up I had strong breath, I spit saliva on my pillow with seaweed odor, and I have a little acidity in my stomach, which disappeared when I took the garlic juice again and do what I said before.
Keyhole said:
I am waiting for my own results for this test, and strongly suspect that I have it. If you do have some infection or other problem that lowers your ability to produce stomach acid, then "gut healing" and anti-parastic/antibacterial supplements might be useless in the long run. I can speak from experience here, since I have spent about £1000 on gut testing and antibacterial supplement protocols since the beginning of 2017, and still have not got to the bottom of the issue. So I think it is always best to investigate before investing much money in any particular treatment when it is based on guesswork.
Sorry to hear that Keyhole. Did you try with dry or fresh herbal tea? For what I read, and I'm not surprised, It seems that these combine with some juice vegetables give better results in dyspepsia with or without h. pylori, and that aggressive treatments specially with antibiotics can be worse. Related to this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1618379/
It was previously postulated that changes in microbial ecology are influencing human height, with diminished microbial transmission early in life contributing to the overall height increases that took place in all developed nations during the twentieth century (Beard & Blaser, 2002). By extension, I now postulate that a similar effect will be seen, or is already being seen, on human weight.
The second example is the interaction of the gastric bacterium Helicobacter pylori with humans, and the consequences of ending this intricate and long-standing relationship. In fact, H. pylori can be regarded as a paradigm of how changes in indigenous microbiota affect human health (Fig 2). Studies of the gastric helicobacters in other mammals, and of human migration patterns over time (Ghose et al, 2002; Falush et al, 2003), suggest that the forebears of modern H. pylori have been present in our ancestors since well before we became humans. The bacterium is also of interest because diagnostic tools are now able to determine its presence or absence in the human stomach, and epidemiological methods can study its effects on human health.
Figure 2
Hypothetical relationship of Helicobacter pylori with human health and disease. There is now considerable evidence that H. pylori has colonized the stomach of humans for more than 100,000 years. Its persistence and ubiquity before modern times suggest selection for its presence, possibly based on enhanced protection against diarrhoeal diseases and improved energy homeostasis (for example, leptin/ghrelin-mediated; in parallel with Fig 1).
Although H. pylori was once present in almost every adult human, the bacterium is now rapidly disappearing from human populations owing to changes in sanitation, demographics and antibiotic usage. Today, fewer than 10% of children in the USA harbour this bacterium in their stomach. When present, H. pylori is the single dominant species in the stomach (Bik et al, 2006), so its disappearance is potentially significant.
Through its pro-inflammatory effects, H. pylori modulates immunological, endocrine and physiological functions in the stomach (Blaser & Atherton, 2004), with both local and systemic manifestations (Fig 2). The biological costs of carrying H. pylori include peptic ulcers and adenocarcinoma of the distal stomach. The (cag+) strains that interact to the greatest extent chemically with their hosts convey the highest risks. Conversely, these strains also protect against gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD) and its consequences, including oesophageal adenocarcinoma, owing in part to their effects on gastric-acid secretion (Peek & Blaser, 2002). These observations are consistent with the rise of these diseases wherever H. pylori is disappearing, and therefore provide the first definitive example of a group of chronic diseases caused by changes in the human microbiota.
(I realize now,
maybe the problem is that high dosis of Iodine, specially without the correct supplementation as it is my case, kill H. pylori?)
I saw the above study in this article from Spanish Society of Phytotherapy related to the treatmeant of H. pylori with oregano (translated from spanish)
http://www.sefit.es/tratamiento-helicobacter-pylori-aceites-esenciales-quimiotipados/
After obtaining such positive results in symptomatic improvement (82%) despite a reduced negativization rate (27%), it seems that the EO (essential oil) of compact oregano in some cases negativizes the test and in others it controls the bacterial proliferation, causing them to disappear the symptoms. In fact, the analytical tests can not assure the total eradication of the bacteria. For this reason, it is preferable to speak of negativization of the test, since there can always be a bacterial presence that can proliferate again to cause discomfort again.
Finally, the main thing is to combat the symptomatology instead of the negativization of the test that, after all, can not assure the eradication of the bacterium. In addition, studies are increasingly pointing out that Helicobacter pylori may be a bacterium that is part of our natural gastric flora. According to Dr. Martin J. Blaser *, its elimination would have negative consequences for the organism, as it is associated with a dramatic increase in the prevalence of gastroesophageal reflux and esophageal cancer. Similarly, H. pylori appears to have a regulatory role for gastric hormones, affecting leptin and ghrelin.
The fact that the chemotipated essential oil treatment of origanum compactum is able to resolve the gastric discomfort in 82% of the patients even without negativizing the test of Helicobacter pylori seems to indicate that it reduces the number of colonies of this bacterium, reestablishing the microbiological balance of the stomach. Since eradication of the bacteria does not appear to be complete nor desirable, this therapeutic option is very interesting. In this sense, the treatment of gastric discomfort with chelated essential oil of compact oregano offers us interesting advantages.
The recommended dosage to treat Helicobacter pylori is 2 capsules of 75 mg of Origanum compactum essential oil every 6 hours for 10 days.
As the oregano dose and frequency of consumption is higher, therefore more difficult and expensive, I opted to try the lemongrass oil, it is one of the most popular herbs in my country to drink with tereré, a drink similar to the mate but cold, I had never paid much attention to it. And there is several information and popular knowledge related to the use of lemongrass tea against dyspepsia, bacteria and as a digestive in my country, and throughout Latin America the use of the oil for the same, unfortunately it is all in Spanish. But I will write my experience with the herbs and vegetables I used later.
Additionally I found this about lemongrass in wikipedia spanish but it is not in the English version, or I missed it (Lippia citriodora it's the species in my country)
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1523-5378.2003.00146.x/abstract
Results. Thirteen essential oils used in this study completely inhibited the growth of H. pylori in vitro at a concentration of 0.1% (v/v). Cymbopogon citratus (lemongrass) and Lippia citriodora (lemon verbena) were bactericidal against H. pylori at 0.01% at pH 4.0 and 5.0. Resistance to lemongrass did not develop even after 10 sequential passages, whereas resistance to clarithromycin developed under the same conditions. In in vivo studies, the density of H. pylori in the stomach of mice treated with lemongrass was significantly reduced compared with untreated mice.
