Iodine and Potassium Iodide

Goemon_ said:
DHTH said:
I want to say thank you for posting that. If there are other essential information, please let me know, and I will be having my eyes on this thread.


6am- Celtic Sea Salt in water.
8am- breakfast, multi vitamin.
10am- Lugols, B2, B3, selenium.

11am- vitamin C.
12noon- salted water.
1pm- lunch
3pm- Lugols, B2, B3.

4pm- vitamin C.
5pm- salted water.
6pm- dinner with apple cider vinega water.
8pm- magnesium glycinate.

If I understand correctly it is more advisable to take lugols right after meal.

Some of foods, especially vegetables like broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, and cabbage that counteract iodine also some of seeds too.
 
Kay Kim said:
Goemon_ said:
DHTH said:
I want to say thank you for posting that. If there are other essential information, please let me know, and I will be having my eyes on this thread.


6am- Celtic Sea Salt in water.
8am- breakfast, multi vitamin.
10am- Lugols, B2, B3, selenium.

11am- vitamin C.
12noon- salted water.
1pm- lunch
3pm- Lugols, B2, B3.

4pm- vitamin C.
5pm- salted water.
6pm- dinner with apple cider vinega water.
8pm- magnesium glycinate.

If I understand correctly it is more advisable to take lugols right after meal.

Some of foods, especially vegetables like broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, and cabbage that counteract iodine also some of seeds too.

I think is a loss to take iodine near meals because, some components in it are antioxidants, in that way you probably will destroy the iodine component in lugol's solution and will rest only with iodide, which is supposed to be non or little antimicrobial.
I can't buy the brownstein book for the moment but I have a question, is there any study about what kind of iodine comes to blood when lugol's is ingested, iodine or iodide, both?.
 
Well, I am at day 6 of the protocol. Started with 1 drop (3mg iodine, 6mg iodide) with all the recommended supplements including salt water (gosh, that tastes awful). Every day one more drop added and now the dose is 5 drops (3 in the morning, 2 at the evening) since two days in a row. I guess I will stay there for some more days to see what happens.

On Saturday I was really tired during the whole day. Appart from that, no bad side effects. On the contrary, I sleep far better, getting up in the morning is also easier, better thinking, more energy. And the best thing and THE sign that iodine really works on a fundamental level is, that during EE the yawning and wet eyes that bothered me for years almost completely vanished! That's some really cool stuff.

Going into the paleo diet improved things a bit, then keto did also improved it even further, but that's no comparison to what iodine achieved in just 6 days!
 
genero81 said:
Just received 2 bottles (2 ounces each) of 5% Lugol's from Loudwolf Limited. $15 each- Really fast considering it shipped across the country. Etsy was the distributor. They even had an app for my phone that I could use to track the progress of the package. Didn't charge for shipping. Great reviews online. Looks to be quality product. I recommend them for US residents. They ship from Dublin, CA. Good experience all around.
Thanks for the info Genero81! I ordered a bottle of Lugols which should be arriving today for about twice that price. I will make my next purchase from Etsy as it looks to be very good quality and the price is great. Too bad for many here they only ship to the US.
 
So, I have purchased Brownstein's book - I ordered iodine (Lugol's 5%), I have glycine, NAC, Boron, and will pick up the better magnesium, selenium, Niacinimide when I go to town tomorrow. Excited to get started - I read14 years ago that I needed to supplement with Iodine because of fibrocystic breasts and PCOD, but didn't know how to go about it. Supplemented with dulse and kelp (waste of time for me), and didn't know about the selenium component. Will be putting it all together and getting started in the next few days. I'm excited, and hopeful - have been Paleo for over three years, and keto diet for one year, and have seen progress, but I'm still not healthy like I want to be. I have also started working again more steadily on emotional healing components using Biofeedback and Inna Segal's book "The Secret Language of Your Body".
 
Kay Kim said:
dugdeep said:
Goemon_ said:
DHTH said:
I want to say thank you for posting that. If there are other essential information, please let me know, and I will be having my eyes on this thread.


6am- Celtic Sea Salt in water.
8am- breakfast, multi vitamin.
10am- Lugols, B2, B3, selenium.

11am- vitamin C.
12noon- salted water.
1pm- lunch
3pm- Lugols, B2, B3.

4pm- vitamin C.
5pm- salted water.
6pm- dinner with apple cider vinega water.
8pm- magnesium glycinate.

If I understand correctly it is more advisable to take lugols right after meal.

Also, the recommendation is to take vitamin C at least 2 hours after the iodine, since it can interfere with the iodine's effectiveness.

Page 13, reply #180 by Laura,
3 to 10 grams of vitamin C - divide into two doses taken an hour after Lugos.

At least an hour. More would be better prolly.

I sure hope that getting a little iodine in some folks will ease their OCD symptoms.
 
Galaxia2002 said:
Kay Kim said:
Goemon_ said:
DHTH said:
I want to say thank you for posting that. If there are other essential information, please let me know, and I will be having my eyes on this thread.


6am- Celtic Sea Salt in water.
8am- breakfast, multi vitamin.
10am- Lugols, B2, B3, selenium.

11am- vitamin C.
12noon- salted water.
1pm- lunch
3pm- Lugols, B2, B3.

4pm- vitamin C.
5pm- salted water.
6pm- dinner with apple cider vinega water.
8pm- magnesium glycinate.

If I understand correctly it is more advisable to take lugols right after meal.

Some of foods, especially vegetables like broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, and cabbage that counteract iodine also some of seeds too.

I think is a loss to take iodine near meals because, some components in it are antioxidants, in that way you probably will destroy the iodine component in lugol's solution and will rest only with iodide, which is supposed to be non or little antimicrobial.
I can't buy the brownstein book for the moment but I have a question, is there any study about what kind of iodine comes to blood when lugol's is ingested, iodine or iodide, both?.

Page 34, reply #502 by Laura,
A reviewer of the product Lugol's content per drop should be;

5%- 2.5 mg iodine and 3.75 mg iodide, total 6.25 mg
10%- 5 mg iodine and 7.5 mg iodide, total 12.5 mg.
 
Laura said:
lainey said:
Carl said:
I could not find a reason in the book for warm salt water. Is this just a personal preference? I have been having it cold for years and grown to like the taste.
I assumed it was because the salt dissolves faster in warm water. In cold it tends to sit at the bottom of the glass which makes the last gulp extra special. :cry:

No, he doesn't give a reason. But, I heard from a doctor once years ago that warm salt water that is about body temperature passes more quickly into the blood and doesn't shock the stomach.

The only thing I could find about that is this:

What happens when natural salt is added to filtered water?

Positive ions in the salt surround the negative ions of the water molecules and vice versa. This creates a new structure that has an electrical charge, which is easily absorbed by the body. Water is no longer water and salt is no longer salt.

Once ingested, the electrical charge in the solution works with the body to send electrical signals between cells and assist the kidneys in maintaining fluid balances.

http://www.thealternativedaily.com/7-reasons-drink-warm-salt-water-every-morning/

The question I have is can we put anything else in the salted water? Because the taste is really bad. :/
 
Persej said:
What happens when natural salt is added to filtered water?
Positive ions in the salt surround the negative ions of the water molecules and vice versa. This creates a new structure that has an electrical charge, which is easily absorbed by the body. Water is no longer water and salt is no longer salt.
Not exactly. The water starts out with no ions. The various salts dissolve in the water. The metals (eg, sodium, potassium) lose an electron and become positive ions. The halogens (eg, chlorine, iodine) gain an electron and become negative ions. Water (H2O) is a covalent molecule, it does not become an ion.
The question I have is can we put anything else in the salted water? Because the taste is really bad. :/
The key is to get those good salt ions into the body, and I don't think ordinary food flavors would interfere with that. Maybe some chicken stock? I had some turkey white meat that was just begging for salt, so I put a half teaspoon of pink salt in my bowl and added chopped white turkey and that tasted pretty nice.
 
Persej said:
Laura said:
lainey said:
Carl said:
I could not find a reason in the book for warm salt water. Is this just a personal preference? I have been having it cold for years and grown to like the taste.
I assumed it was because the salt dissolves faster in warm water. In cold it tends to sit at the bottom of the glass which makes the last gulp extra special. :cry:

No, he doesn't give a reason. But, I heard from a doctor once years ago that warm salt water that is about body temperature passes more quickly into the blood and doesn't shock the stomach.

The only thing I could find about that is this:

What happens when natural salt is added to filtered water?

Positive ions in the salt surround the negative ions of the water molecules and vice versa. This creates a new structure that has an electrical charge, which is easily absorbed by the body. Water is no longer water and salt is no longer salt.

Once ingested, the electrical charge in the solution works with the body to send electrical signals between cells and assist the kidneys in maintaining fluid balances.

http://www.thealternativedaily.com/7-reasons-drink-warm-salt-water-every-morning/

The question I have is can we put anything else in the salted water? Because the taste is really bad. :/
i have been taking salted water with crystalline vitamin c added. The sour taste of the C mixed with the salt is quite palatable IMO.

Which reminds me of a question regarding VitC. Once introduced into the organism, how long until it won't interfere with the iodine? The recommendation on the protocol is two hours after Lugols. Would two hours before be okay (with salted water)? This isn't mentioned in Brownstein's book.

On which note, I started the protocol yesterday with two drops of the 5% solution. I noticed the giddy energy mentioned earlier in the thread after 20 or so minutes after ingestion. About 2 hours after a somewhat short lived mild headache surfaced, along with a slight metallic taste - vitC/salt water helped with that significantly.

Kris
 
Persej said:
The question I have is can we put anything else in the salted water? Because the taste is really bad. :/

I'm not sure which salt you are using, but for some time now I have been using Himalayan Salt (it's pink in colour). Added to water, it tastes great! I have no problems drinking 1/2 teaspoon of it in a tall glass of water.
 
curious_richard said:
Persej said:
What happens when natural salt is added to filtered water?
Positive ions in the salt surround the negative ions of the water molecules and vice versa. This creates a new structure that has an electrical charge, which is easily absorbed by the body. Water is no longer water and salt is no longer salt.
Not exactly. The water starts out with no ions. The various salts dissolve in the water. The metals (eg, sodium, potassium) lose an electron and become positive ions. The halogens (eg, chlorine, iodine) gain an electron and become negative ions. Water (H2O) is a covalent molecule, it does not become an ion.
The question I have is can we put anything else in the salted water? Because the taste is really bad. :/
The key is to get those good salt ions into the body, and I don't think ordinary food flavors would interfere with that. Maybe some chicken stock? I had some turkey white meat that was just begging for salt, so I put a half teaspoon of pink salt in my bowl and added chopped white turkey and that tasted pretty nice.

I remember my mom give us sometimes a broth made with salt, coriander or parsley. It was tasty. I see no problem while it just don't made you start digestion.
 
RflctnOfU said:
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Which reminds me of a question regarding VitC. Once introduced into the organism, how long until it won't interfere with the iodine? The recommendation on the protocol is two hours after Lugols. Would two hours before be okay (with salted water)? This isn't mentioned in Brownstein's book.

I found this:

"With regular intake the absorption rate varies between 70 to 95%. However, the degree of absorption decreases as intake increases. At high intake (1.25 g), fractional human absorption of ascorbic acid may be as low as 33%; at low intake (<200 mg) the absorption rate can reach up to 98%.
Ascorbate concentrations over the renal re-absorption threshold pass freely into the urine and are excreted. At high dietary doses (corresponding to several hundred mg/day in humans) ascorbate is accumulated in the body until the plasma levels reach the renal resorption threshold, which is about 1.5 mg/dL in men and 1.3 mg/dL in women. Concentrations in the plasma larger than this value (thought to represent body saturation) are rapidly excreted in the urine with a half-life of about 30 minutes. Concentrations less than this threshold amount are actively retained by the kidneys, and the excretion half-life for the remainder of the vitamin C store in the body thus increases greatly, with the half-life lengthening as the body stores are depleted."

Therefore I think it would be safe to take it 30 min before Iodine.

But if i am not mistaken it is important to take it after Iodine if detox symptoms get out of control.
 
curious_richard said:
Not exactly. The water starts out with no ions. The various salts dissolve in the water. The metals (eg, sodium, potassium) lose an electron and become positive ions. The halogens (eg, chlorine, iodine) gain an electron and become negative ions. Water (H2O) is a covalent molecule, it does not become an ion.

Thank you for explanation. Can you also comment on this:

[...] Now why what role Vit c does is to convert a whole sodium molecule into Ionised state , Which is required to conduct electrical signaling. If there is no Vit c all of sodium cannot be converted into ionized state , and you don’t get all benefits. Remember ascorbic acid (vit c) is a free radical scavenger it gives extra electron or take electron to make other molecules stable ,this is how it takes two electron from sodium to convert it into Na^2+ . This is same thing which happen in Lemon batteries , vit c converts metal ions so that they can be used for electric conductance.

This how taking large doses of salt and vit c ,you can start your bodies natural electrical signaling and fight infection with more strength. I don’t disagree with what you say , but I want to add this up to make picture a little more clearer.

_http://www.nothing-is-incurable.com/2011/04/72-hour-remedy-salt-and-vitamin-c-never.html

Apparently there are people who promote Salt and Vitamin C Protocol for Lyme Disease and other stuff like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and one guy wrote that as a comment on a post about that protocol.

There is also a book about that protocol: _http://www.amazon.com/Salt-Plus-Protocol-Lyme-Infection/dp/1463575483/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

The key is to get those good salt ions into the body, and I don't think ordinary food flavors would interfere with that. Maybe some chicken stock? I had some turkey white meat that was just begging for salt, so I put a half teaspoon of pink salt in my bowl and added chopped white turkey and that tasted pretty nice.

Yeah, I like to put salt on food but there seems to be something useful in combining salt and water. :)

Arwenn said:
I'm not sure which salt you are using, but for some time now I have been using Himalayan Salt (it's pink in colour). Added to water, it tastes great! I have no problems drinking 1/2 teaspoon of it in a tall glass of water.

Yes, I also have Himalayan Salt. But I used only half of glass and it was a small glass. I will try with more water.
 
Persej said:
Yes, I also have Himalayan Salt. But I used only half of glass and it was a small glass. I will try with more water.
Hey Persej,

If you don't enjoy the taste of drinking salty water, you could try something that I usually do when I drink it. Basically, try to close off your nasal passages (if you can) while drinking the water and keep them closed until after you have swallowed and have breathed air out of your lungs. What I mean by "closing of the nasal passage" is to sort of push the back of your tongue up against the back of your mouth. If you do this properly you should not be able to taste or smell anything, other than experiencing the salty sensation on your tongue, which only lasts a few seconds. I use this technique when eating foods that I don't enjoy the taste of such as like pork liver :D
 

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