The idea of root races comes to mind. The fifth and current root race of the planet is known to some as the Aryan root race. The gist of it is, each root race has subraces that develop over a long period of time. The root races go from a golden age to an iron age before cataclysms bring them to an end and the next root race begins.
Kantek
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Ina
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Interesting. I read the entire thread and I wanted to post about a possible link about the last lack ‘harvesting’ as mentioned in the Ra materials and the Relocation from Kantek that seem to coincide. I stopped my intention because The thought seemed just a figment of my imagination and nothing else. However, as I am busy reading this book I found on Scribd Documents, The Secret Tao, by D. W. Kreger, this idea popped into my mind again. The author not only mentions about the Ancients as the people that lived before 5000 bc in China, but he makes many references to the Mother as the Source of creation. Is it possible that the Tao Te Ching really talks about the Way the Ancients might have lived by? And is it possible that the Mother stone is actually a ‘natural process, energy or technology’ that the ancients mastered (accumulated Qi)? Was Kantek split into pieces as a result of Qi concentration? Did the Cs as Ra provide the Knowledge to nurture and increase the Qi to the Kantek people? Was it an experiment to induce, conduce or ease ‘harvesting’ that flopped because it was totally out of natural balance and the Kantekians had to be saved and thus deposed on Earth? Was that event called a Wave as well?
Here is an image of a merkaba as it is shown in popular use today. I'm not sure if this is what is being referred to:
And from a different angle:
And from a different angle:
foofighter
Jedi Council Member
This is not a double tetrahedron. It should only have 8 faces, and the above has many more...
foofighter
Jedi Council Member
Here's a clue I have discovered since that session way back in 2002. Merkaba=trident=grail=vegvisir. These names all refer to the same device, so all descriptions when combined are different ways of describing the same thing. And yes, transportation is one potential use.
I think it means something different because if they were referring to an 8 faced shape they would call it octahedron instead of double tetrahedron. Maybe they just referred to it in that way to emphasise that the shape is made of two 3 sided pyramids?
It's interesting that two single tetrahedrons have a total of 8 faces between them, but this shape that is referred to as a double tetrahedron has 24 faces - or 3 x 8. Not that I'm sure that the numbers themselves mean anything.
foofighter
Jedi Council Member
Part of the device literally looks like two pyramids attached to each other through a common base, so "double tetrahedron" is more accurate than "octahedron" (which would suggest that it's symmetrical, which it isn't).
Matthew
Jedi Master
It is if you consider it two separate tetrahedrons sharing the same space. It looks like two pyramid shapes to me; one inverted and shoved inside the other one.
mrtn
Dagobah Resident
According to Wikipedia it is called Compound of two tetrahedra, which is a Polytope compound
If at all, it would be called a 'double Pentahedron', because those are 2 pyramids with 5 faces each (or 4 sides each).
If you are talking about this:
If at all, it would be called a 'double Pentahedron', because those are 2 pyramids with 5 faces each (or 4 sides each).
Pierre's session is the main one I was thinking of. An earlier part of this session also pretty much establishes that the Ark of the Covenant and the Merkaba are one and the same, and not separate objects like Casswiki states. Another session that was in mind when I made my statement about the Merkaba was this one:
It appears that as time went on and the circle people were progressively neutralized and stupefied, 4D STS took control of the object via the proxy method and 4D STO became weary of the creative principle being twisted in this way and hid the object until someone with a high level of knowledge and being comes along. Someone selfless with a big picture view with superb discernment who knows what they're dealing with and is not so easy to manipulate.
All of this makes me wonder why the Reptoids didn't just use it themselves to manipulate humanity; they had to know a lot more about it than some primitive tribe in the desert. Furthermore, a "nonselfish energy field" is not exactly their modus operandi. It looks like STS cannot use this object either, except by proxy. If one sincerely believes that killing or brainwashing the barbarians so that the good people can live under the "one True God" is in the best and highest interest of protecting everyone in the tribe, then perhaps the crystal registers that intent as STO when in fact it is being manipulated to bring the STS agenda to fruition. 4D STS needs good hearted, but simple and naïve people to operate the device for them. This led me to believe that at least the person operating the Merkaba when Kantek was evacuated was STO leaning. There seemed to be a clear bifurcation between circle people and pyramid people after the transfer, and I think the circle people would be more attracted to STO ways and means.session941107 said:
It appears that as time went on and the circle people were progressively neutralized and stupefied, 4D STS took control of the object via the proxy method and 4D STO became weary of the creative principle being twisted in this way and hid the object until someone with a high level of knowledge and being comes along. Someone selfless with a big picture view with superb discernment who knows what they're dealing with and is not so easy to manipulate.
I think so. The Cassiopaeans have said there are "millions of colonies" of human type beings. There are probably dozens of planets in the Orion Arm that are part of the "Orion Union experiment," the purpose of which is to create a being that has freewill, yet is completely obsequious to 4D STS. Once this is perfected, they hope to copy the finished product to all corners of the cosmos, funneling all of the creative energy to them and giving them infinite power over the forces of the universe. Since the Orion Nordics seem to be the most capable and successful in the Orion Union STS hierarchy, their race was used as a template, but it had to be engineered to meet a certain special criteria; if the newly created slave race was too smart and too capable, it would never accept its servitude, if it was too dumb, it wouldn't be able to channel enough creative energy to be useful. So this in a nutshell is the dependent variable in this experiment, with purebred Neanderthals and purebred Kantekkians kind of representing opposite extremes of the values that were tested. The Cassiopaeans said that 4D STS moved the Neanderthals to another planet, probably as spare parts if they need to be reintroduced into the experiment at some point.l apprenti de forgeron said:
From what I understand, there were two distinct falls. The first fall occurred when human consciousness desired individual experience and sort of broke away from the 7D state of consciousness where everything was seen from a great distance as part of a sort a eternally slow cosmic process with little direct experience and learning occurring in a glacial cyclical manner. This is not really what I would consider a fall per se, it was a choice to do something different with the intent of bringing something of value back to the 7D state of being at some point. In a nutshell, this is how spirit populates the physical densities. 4D STO is as much a part of the short wave cycle as 3D STS, they just have a different experience of it. The real fall happened when humanity switched from 3D STO to 3D STS. This was probably also done with the intent to catalyze experiential learning, but the 4D STS curriculum was not designed with the intent of enlightenment in mind and proved too difficult for most to apprehend. According to the Cassiopaeans, important decisions in the STO realm are made by a sort of group mind consensus; some individuals may have been more reserved about the decision to accept the 4D STS offer, but their resistance was not enough to alter the consensus and everyone was bound by it. In the case of Earth and Kantek, this looks to be pretty much what happened. We don't really know much about how it played out on other planets. It appears that there is a mechanism by which a few people around the fringes here and there were able to return to the STO realm, but I don't see them living on Earth full time due to the negative polarization of the planet overall. Perhaps they assist the Nordics on "missions." This interplay between STS and STO seems to be a particularly long running story amongst the human-type races, with even the Nordics themselves undergoing some type of irreconcilable civilizational clash which led them to split into oppositional STS and STO entities. The drama between the two groups continues to play out in all races that were created or guided by them.l apprenti de forgeron said:
I've been thinking lately about some of the remarks the Cs made about some STO-STS consortium (Quorum) and that at a certain level, the interests of these two groups seem to align. If we think of the universe as a school, then some "intelligent designer" needs to come up with different "class rooms". And this process seems to be kind of a joint effort between STO and STS, each one playing their part in a sense. For example, STS wants to control us and puts us in a mental prison, denying us the truth about our world. But at the same time, this very thing is an intrinsic part of the class room design of our realm - we are up against a fog of lies. For example, if we had always known about the afterlife, intelligent design and so forth, some of the lessons we could learn here would have been impossible. It's like marching with backpacks that are filled with stones - which, while it seems cruel, is actually a good training. Of course, this doesn't mean STS are "good" or anything. But such things might explain some of the seeming contradictions and why at times, the Cs seem to imply that the "good guys" don't always fight the "bad guys" at higher realms, but sometimes work with them for their own purposes. They see the bigger picture. And all of that is subject to free will and input from the various beings at the various levels. Just some thoughts.
Yes exactly. Even STO serves self, they just do it through serving others. Yin and Yang are not just a divided circle down the middle with white all to one side and black to the other. They kind of depend on each other. Certainly STS depends on the inherent good nature and naivete of their potential conquests with at least some STO tendencies. Like you said STO probably needs STS to provide the necessary elements for accelerated learning in the short wave cycle. I've been more or less keeping this in mind for years as part of my working understanding as it develops. It seems to me to be a necessary part of a maturing awareness of the true nature of things. Things are complex and nuanced. Especially at higher levels. I can sort of see how they might actually work together for cross purposes. We wanted greater physicality. We are now in the position to be used, but also to use the situation to grow in consciousness. The battle is through us. We are the focal point. OSIT
psychegram
The Living Force
Was chatting with a friend about Kantek today, and a question came up that I haven't been able to find an answer to, at least on this thread.
So, Kantek was supposedly Planet V, and the asteroid belt is the remaining fragments. Further, the planet, while smaller than Earth, was large enough to maintain an atmosphere; indeed there's speculation in this thread that the atmosphere might have been thicker than Earth's, enabling a comparable surface temperature despite it having been further from the Sun.
The one big problem is that there isn't enough material in the asteroid belt to make a planet. The total mass is about 3% of the Moon's mass; that's nowhere near enough to retain an atmosphere, let alone a dense atmosphere. So, if the asteroid belt is in fact composed of the fragments of Kantek, there's a lot of missing material.
Where did it go?
I only see 2 possibilities:
1. Most of it was ejected from the solar system. Given that the gravitational binding energy of a planet - the amount of energy necessary to blow it up - is really immense, the extra amount required to send most of the mass onto an interstellar trajectory isn't inconceivable, I guess. It's the difference between godlike and power and godlike + 1.
2. The missing material is Mars, and the different orbits of Mars and the asteroid belt bodies are a consequence of orbital changes induced in one or both during Venus' entry into the solar system. In this scenario there was no Planet V, but the asteroids are indeed the fragments of a destroyed planet.
Years ago, my mother told me that she figured caucasians had come from Mars. She said she hadn't read this anywhere, that it just sort of occurred to her and made sense at a deep level. Looking at all the science fiction stories regarding ancient, advanced civilizations on Mars, and the overwhelming fascination with going back to Mars - all cultural products of Europeans, and having a cultural resonance that seems to go well beyond any rational basis - I really can't help but wonder if the fascination with Mars might not be a deep genetic memory.
Interested to hear other perspectives on this question.
So, Kantek was supposedly Planet V, and the asteroid belt is the remaining fragments. Further, the planet, while smaller than Earth, was large enough to maintain an atmosphere; indeed there's speculation in this thread that the atmosphere might have been thicker than Earth's, enabling a comparable surface temperature despite it having been further from the Sun.
The one big problem is that there isn't enough material in the asteroid belt to make a planet. The total mass is about 3% of the Moon's mass; that's nowhere near enough to retain an atmosphere, let alone a dense atmosphere. So, if the asteroid belt is in fact composed of the fragments of Kantek, there's a lot of missing material.
Where did it go?
I only see 2 possibilities:
1. Most of it was ejected from the solar system. Given that the gravitational binding energy of a planet - the amount of energy necessary to blow it up - is really immense, the extra amount required to send most of the mass onto an interstellar trajectory isn't inconceivable, I guess. It's the difference between godlike and power and godlike + 1.
2. The missing material is Mars, and the different orbits of Mars and the asteroid belt bodies are a consequence of orbital changes induced in one or both during Venus' entry into the solar system. In this scenario there was no Planet V, but the asteroids are indeed the fragments of a destroyed planet.
Years ago, my mother told me that she figured caucasians had come from Mars. She said she hadn't read this anywhere, that it just sort of occurred to her and made sense at a deep level. Looking at all the science fiction stories regarding ancient, advanced civilizations on Mars, and the overwhelming fascination with going back to Mars - all cultural products of Europeans, and having a cultural resonance that seems to go well beyond any rational basis - I really can't help but wonder if the fascination with Mars might not be a deep genetic memory.
Interested to hear other perspectives on this question.