"Life Without Bread"
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Laura said:Mrs. Peel said:
Hot flashes, you say... ???
No ingredients, just a note: NO preservatives used, only curcuma for yellowing. Could it be a different behaviour of fat during rendering in this summer heat? It has less than half-so strong duck-smell than the prev. fat.
In the evening i have stomach sickness and sometimes in the morning with a lot of growling. Is it important?
Non-related, i noticed that cannot feel hotness in FIR, putting my hand into the very hot fold, a few seconds then the intense heat sensation gets back to normal. Feel just normal wetness from sweat, sometimes bit shivering. Must be natural absorption of heat or acclimatization to FIR.
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forge said:
There is obviously something wrong with that fat - stop eating it.
f said:
You shouldn't be shivering in the FIR sauna, it can be a sign of the onset of heat stroke, actually. It sounds like you need to pay more attention in general to the signs your body are sending you that something is wrong.
FWIW-I have been eating pork belly from the local butcher. He gets pork belly from three sources. I have been buying the hazelnut finished, outdoor raised hogs, butchered at about three hundred pounds of live weight. The cost is $5.35 per pound. Last week he was out of the hazelnut finished pork belly, so I bought the conventional corn fed organic pork belly at $3.98 per pound. I could barely eat the conventional organic pork belly fat. It was a tasteless gel, with about 50% meat. This week I stocked up on the hazelnut finished pork belly. It is crisp and sweet. There is a large difference in the quality of animal fat, depending on age of the animal, type of food, and whether the animal runs around in the pasture or is confined in a small space. I think the fat on the acorn fed Spanish hams is the best I have eaten, but it is expensive.
I bake the pork belly at 300F for about an hour with the skin down and sprinkled with sea salt. It is great sliced cold and available for a quick snack. I have been moving toward the high percentage fat diet very gradually and just moved below about 50 grams of carbohydrate a day from carrots, beets, green beans, cucumber, squash and I still have one quarter cup of buckwheat with bacon for breakfast.
We don't have a scale, but I have moved my belt buckle in three holes since January. I gave up popcorn and potato as the last concentrated carbohydrate foods about a month ago. I had been feeling light headed after physical exertion, but a slice of cold pork belly or smoked salmon belly seems to help. I have not had cramps or constipation as a result of aiming for a transition from glucose to ketone metabolism, so far.
I have read Vegetarian Myth, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living, and Why We Get Fat. I am swamped with reading, but I wonder if there is a must read in the others mentioned.
I have noticed a wider range of feeling states since I lowered the carbohydrates below approximately fifty grams a day, ranging from irritable to euphoric. Does this emotional sensitivity last long? I thought it might be a more normal emotional sensitivity and I am not yet used to an increased range of perception. Is this a possible benefit of the high percentage fat diet? The HPF has brought into focus how much I was "living to eat" rather than "eating to live". It took weeks to stop craving a big bowl of popcorn. Perhaps the emotional rearrangement is the result of forgoing an "opiate reaction" from the corn. One thing I don't miss is sweets. If fact the taste buds rejects sweet with vigor.
What an incredible thread this is. It has completely rearranged my relationship to food. :)
I bake the pork belly at 300F for about an hour with the skin down and sprinkled with sea salt. It is great sliced cold and available for a quick snack. I have been moving toward the high percentage fat diet very gradually and just moved below about 50 grams of carbohydrate a day from carrots, beets, green beans, cucumber, squash and I still have one quarter cup of buckwheat with bacon for breakfast.
We don't have a scale, but I have moved my belt buckle in three holes since January. I gave up popcorn and potato as the last concentrated carbohydrate foods about a month ago. I had been feeling light headed after physical exertion, but a slice of cold pork belly or smoked salmon belly seems to help. I have not had cramps or constipation as a result of aiming for a transition from glucose to ketone metabolism, so far.
I have read Vegetarian Myth, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living, and Why We Get Fat. I am swamped with reading, but I wonder if there is a must read in the others mentioned.
I have noticed a wider range of feeling states since I lowered the carbohydrates below approximately fifty grams a day, ranging from irritable to euphoric. Does this emotional sensitivity last long? I thought it might be a more normal emotional sensitivity and I am not yet used to an increased range of perception. Is this a possible benefit of the high percentage fat diet? The HPF has brought into focus how much I was "living to eat" rather than "eating to live". It took weeks to stop craving a big bowl of popcorn. Perhaps the emotional rearrangement is the result of forgoing an "opiate reaction" from the corn. One thing I don't miss is sweets. If fact the taste buds rejects sweet with vigor.
What an incredible thread this is. It has completely rearranged my relationship to food. :)
anart said:Approaching Infinity said:Small update from one of the skinny ones. When I first started the diet changes almost 3 years ago, my weight went down. I used to be 145-150 lbs, but got to the point where I was consistently 138. But over the last months on the paleo diet (as well as doing some heavy physical exercise for 2 hrs, twice a week, which I think helped a lot), I'm up to 143, rising slowly but steadily. No more cramps, no real intense cravings for evil foods (although if I think about them, I do miss chocolate bars!). I cut out even buckwheat flour a couple weeks ago, and the other day, when I tried 2 blinis in the afternoon, I was irritable for the rest of the day, so I think I'll be laying off those from now on.
Yeah, I think blinis are out for most of us, actually (but maybe others can still have them?). I had a tiny (like the size of a carrot) Japanese sweet potato a few days ago to see how I would react and it wasn't good - my energy level sank and I was irritable and I craved carbs for the next day. So - for me it's sticking to green beans a few times a week and pork and the occasional almond as a snack. I feel great, though, and weight continues to come off, which is kind of an added bonus! At some point I'll add other veggies to see how it goes, but, for now, minimal seems to be best for me.
Is it still better to soak these nuts to remove lectins ?. Haven't tried the blini's yet after paleo diet started.
I was going to start another thread for this, but I have question related to the diet. I received some concerning news that I'm showing signs of kidney disease most likely related to taking medications, specifically Lithium and the amount of water I drink due to the dry mouth from the medication. The indicator that shows I'm having problems is the GFR (Glomerular Filtration Rate) that has been read twice recently at 56 where 60 and above is normal. Blood pressure was normal. Blood sugar level was good at around 85 and I had no protein in my urine. I've been taken off lithium and was given a packet of reading about the condition and what to do in terms of eating. The information says to limit sodium and potassium and to eat a smaller amount of protein than normal.
I've been on the diet for three weeks and have been supplementing both sodium and potassium, so now I'm not sure what to in terms of supplementation and the diet. I was kind in a shocked state when I was told about the issue and didn't ask about the diet I'm on. The only mention of the kidneys I remember in the reading was in reference to the only time that the Atkins/high meat diet has shown to cause problems with the kidneys is when someone has a pre-existing kidney condition. The reference was in 'Life witout Bread' or 'The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate living', but I loaned them out and not sure which one it is in.
I'm going to start digging and searching the internet for information on what I can do for the condition and hopefully find something in relation to the diet and kidney problems. If anyone knows a good place to start or can point anything out that is useful to read, it is greatly appreciated.
I've been on the diet for three weeks and have been supplementing both sodium and potassium, so now I'm not sure what to in terms of supplementation and the diet. I was kind in a shocked state when I was told about the issue and didn't ask about the diet I'm on. The only mention of the kidneys I remember in the reading was in reference to the only time that the Atkins/high meat diet has shown to cause problems with the kidneys is when someone has a pre-existing kidney condition. The reference was in 'Life witout Bread' or 'The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate living', but I loaned them out and not sure which one it is in.
I'm going to start digging and searching the internet for information on what I can do for the condition and hopefully find something in relation to the diet and kidney problems. If anyone knows a good place to start or can point anything out that is useful to read, it is greatly appreciated.
anart said:
If the nuts are raw, it's probably best to soak them 7-8 hrs (a little longer for almonds), then dry them with low heat to preserve the enzymes. If they are already roasted, no need to soak - many anti-nutrients have already been destroyed (unfortunately many enzymes as well).
LQB said:
That "pulled" cramped muscle pain has gotten worse and popped up in my low back right where I've had bad probs in the past. The pain is more like a throb and is interfering with sleep since I can't find a comfortable position. All pains are on the left side. Been cutting the protein lower. Some cramping upon stretching in the morn is also happening. I may up the carbs a bit due to the sleep loss.
Laura said:Hot flashes, you say... ???
Oh yeah. Get 'em right after I dry off from a shower! Get them if I'm stressed. Noticed I get them if I eat a big meal 'o meat, prolly my poor digestion protesting (even with the enzymes, etc.). But the "brainwave' trigger (get them right after I wake up) is kinda weird.
Gah, my gyne says I could still have them into my 60s or longer. Fortunately, we probably won't be around that long!
I want to give update. I reintroduced the carbs with carrots with same effect of constipation. This time I took probiotics. That helped to feel little better but this dropped my ketosis levels ( at least on the stick ), after reading that one should take foundation vegetables to avoid constipation, I ate salad, that seemed to reduced my constipation. Also found My ketosis is back. But I still didn't felt good when I ate carbs and felt much better with meat or egg. I was taking occasional probiotics and other gut healing vitamins. Increased the proteins more than my weight. Feel LOT better with increased meat.
Yesterday, I was shocked to realize that One vitamain (Gaba) that I was taking once in a while ( once or twice a month ) has rice flour
. This is from a batch of vitamins I bought 2 or 3 yrs back, when I was eating brown rice and considered rice is less of a evil. I was checking all the ingredients regularly, so I failed to suspect it in old stock. When my current stock is over, I opened this old stock and didn't realize it. The main reason I was not taking them regularly is due to the fact that subconsciously I was scared to reaction of mild shock(probably blood sugar issue) I experienced when I took lot of vitamins. I feel bloating and uneasy.
Another reason I stopped taking lot of vitamins is I was feeling lot better with meat with out vitamins. It looks, lot of NOW vitamins ( Gaba, 5-HTP, B-6 ) has rice flour. If it takes 6 months to get rid of it, heck, that explains why I continue to struggle with ADD symptoms. Though I check all the labels what I am buying, this fell through the cracks. Well, I cleaned up all my vitamins and still needs to some search on all the additives , what they contain.
Yesterday, I was shocked to realize that One vitamain (Gaba) that I was taking once in a while ( once or twice a month ) has rice flour
. This is from a batch of vitamins I bought 2 or 3 yrs back, when I was eating brown rice and considered rice is less of a evil. I was checking all the ingredients regularly, so I failed to suspect it in old stock. When my current stock is over, I opened this old stock and didn't realize it. The main reason I was not taking them regularly is due to the fact that subconsciously I was scared to reaction of mild shock(probably blood sugar issue) I experienced when I took lot of vitamins. I feel bloating and uneasy. Another reason I stopped taking lot of vitamins is I was feeling lot better with meat with out vitamins. It looks, lot of NOW vitamins ( Gaba, 5-HTP, B-6 ) has rice flour. If it takes 6 months to get rid of it, heck, that explains why I continue to struggle with ADD symptoms. Though I check all the labels what I am buying, this fell through the cracks. Well, I cleaned up all my vitamins and still needs to some search on all the additives , what they contain.
LQB said:
It may be more of a stop-gap measure, but have you tried massaging magnesium oil into the cramped muscles? This helped me when I was going through calf cramps when trying to sleep. I rubbed as much as the skin would absorb before going to bed, and even added some DSMO when things felt really twitchy. It didn't always stop them, but it took the intensity way down. As the keto-adaptation took hold, they went away completely, so hang in there. I'm sure it will improve.
The other night I felt like a tension headache was coming on. I wasn't sure where it was coming from but I took a quarter teaspoon of salt and within just a minute I could feel the headache lessen. It still lingered around for another 15 min. or so, until I decided to take 1/4 Ts more and it completely went away, just about immediately.
Earlier in the day I had been listening to one of the podcasts that Nora Gedgaudas has on her website. It was called "My Big Fat Diet". She had on as a guest a doctor who did a 'big fat diet' experiment and documentary in a small remote village in Canada comprising of natives. The idea was that the participants would return to eating what their ancestors ate: a low carb, moderate protein, high fat diet. The experiment lasted one year, and 60 out of the original 100 participants stuck it out the whole way through. The discoveries were much of what we're discovering here regarding diabetes, mental health, and lots of other issues. Unfortunately the documentary looks only to be attainable from the one website about the experiment (not available on Netflix, youtube, etc.). Looks good though. On the documentary's website it says that it will be playing on CBC Tuesday, September 23 at 7pm and 10 pm on Newsworld.
Here's a youtube trailer for the documentary
And here is the page for the podcast (thanks Gawan for the earlier reference!):
http://www.primalbody-primalmind.com/?page_id=1412
It's down a bit:
One of the things Dr. Wortman mentioned in the podcast how just about all the ill affects that come from a low carb diet can be countered by increasing salt intake. Well, that's what gave me the idea to take some more salt - and it worked!
Earlier in the day I had been listening to one of the podcasts that Nora Gedgaudas has on her website. It was called "My Big Fat Diet". She had on as a guest a doctor who did a 'big fat diet' experiment and documentary in a small remote village in Canada comprising of natives. The idea was that the participants would return to eating what their ancestors ate: a low carb, moderate protein, high fat diet. The experiment lasted one year, and 60 out of the original 100 participants stuck it out the whole way through. The discoveries were much of what we're discovering here regarding diabetes, mental health, and lots of other issues. Unfortunately the documentary looks only to be attainable from the one website about the experiment (not available on Netflix, youtube, etc.). Looks good though. On the documentary's website it says that it will be playing on CBC Tuesday, September 23 at 7pm and 10 pm on Newsworld.
Here's a youtube trailer for the documentary
And here is the page for the podcast (thanks Gawan for the earlier reference!):
http://www.primalbody-primalmind.com/?page_id=1412
It's down a bit:
One of the things Dr. Wortman mentioned in the podcast how just about all the ill affects that come from a low carb diet can be countered by increasing salt intake. Well, that's what gave me the idea to take some more salt - and it worked!
