M.M.S. Miracle Mineral Solution and Jim Humble

Rabelais

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A friend sent me this, today. He seems to still be a defender of Humble and MMS, in spite of the information that I have sent him regarding our findings.

Humble continues to circumvent common sense and regulatory oversight while raking in the bux from the less discerning.


Jim Humble MMS Newsletter

FDA SCARES AMERICANS,NOT!!

October 2010

A few weeks ago, Daniel Smith of PGL (Project Green Life) a seller

of MMS, was busy at work one morning when 5 men dressed in

expensive suits walked in the door. They were from the FDA. They

were there, they said, to enlist his cooperation in removing this

dangerous chemical, MMS, from the market. They believed that many

people would be going to jail for selling such a chemical. But they

really wanted to give people a chance to cooperate. They mentioned

no consideration, no advantage to those who did cooperate, nothing.

They just wanted to give some people a chance to cooperate, they

said.

Their very attitude struck fear into all those who were there. Daniel’s

partner, went immediately home, returned that evening and resigned,

never to return. Daniel agreed to recall all the thousands of bottles of

MMS that he had ever sold. He would cooperate as there seemed to

be no other choice. Or ---- that’s --- the—way-- it seemed. I wrote a

letter to Daniel telling him not to listen to the FDA, but it seemed that

he was determined to cooperate. In my Newsletter I went on record

as being totally against Daniel caving into the FDA. I felt that users of

MMS had to know that I was totally against caving in, in any way. On

the other hand, Daniel left a little note in his email to me making me

realize that he had something up his sleeve. I wrote him that I had to

go on record as being against what the FDA wanted, but I would help

him in any way I could.

As it turned out, I had the Church, the Genesis 2 Church come up

with $10,000 for Daniels defense. That’s one of the things the

Church does, protect its members. And he used the money to create

a Private Health Care Membership Association. It just happens

that the Supreme Court has ruled favorably for private associations

more than 30 times in the last 50 years. It happens that this country

conducts its business in two areas, one is public, and the other is

private. The FDA, CIA and all the other alphabet soups are not

allowed to interfere in the private area except in cases of a clear and

present danger. The various private government agencies which all

the government agencies are, are formed to protect the public, not the

private.

There is an interesting point of law here I might mention. The

FDA is a private corporation. They have an EIN number (employer

identification number). They pay taxes. A private corporation has

no authority over a private business. So how do they get authority?

They must get a contract with any business in order to get the

authority. The way they do that is they call you up and ask for

permission to visit. Then they will come and visit and discuss many

things, and during that time there will be numerous things you can say

that will be assumed contracts.

The situation was that the FDA made a big error in coming to Daniel’s

business in the first place. They were so anxious to put the fear into

Daniel that they did not follow the rules set by the laws and earlier

court precedents. The law says that the FDA must notify the people

before coming and then when they arrive they must tell the owner in

clear language why they are going to investigate him. They may then

make further appointments. They also didn’t send him a copy of the

complaint. These errors are covered by the following court cases.


● Davis v. Scherer, 82 L. Ed. 2d 139 at 155;

● Armstrong v. Mauzo, 14 L. Ed. 2d 62;

● Grannis v. Ordean 58 L. Ed. 1363;

● Mathews v. Eldridge, 47 L. Ed. 2d 18.

● And others.

At the advice of people who knew what they were doing he then wrote

a letter informing the FDA that he would beginning to sell MMS to

his private membership at a certain date and they had 10 days to

voice their objections, if they have any. WELL, DANIEL IS NOW BACK

SELLING MMS TO HIS PRIVATE MEMBERS. AND OTHER COMPANIES

ARE STARTING UP WITH THE SAME IDEA IN MIND. The FDA didn’t

decrease the number of sellers of MMS, they increased it as a result of

scaring people, many people researched the law and found that they

could indeed sell MMS Legally.

Changing the subject, I have a couple of success stories from people

who have just sent in their testimony. We get at least one a day.

The following is someone else writing:

“My father had early signs of dementia or Alzheimer’s and now his mental

state is improving daily. The miracles I have seen with mms is so miraculous its

clear a guy like you Jim did not name this solution lightly, you named it perfectly Jim

(Miracle Mineral Solution) with a scientific explanation anybody can understand. My

friend has had fibromyalgia as you know incurable, he is now playing golf again after

12 years, his multiple sclerosis friend is out jogging again after 6 years of suffering,

he was on the verge of getting a wheelchair and after just 4 days taking mms he

is no long thinking of it. My motor mechanic friend used 3 years of creams on his

hands and eventually steroid cream to no avail. The dry cracked skin condition on

his hands was one half gone after one wash over by the next morning, and all gone

in three days.”


Here is one more:


“Dear Mr. Humble, I thought you would like to know that I have cured myself of

uterine and ovarian cancer with MMS. One year ago I was diagnosed with stage 4 malignant

melanoma (skin cancer spread on my lymph nodes). I had an ultrasound in June of this

year. The doctor said I had a tumor on my right ovary and my uterus showed signs of cancer/

precancer. The doctor said I would have to have a hysterectomy. We decided to repeat

the ultrasound in 1 month and do a biopsy and schedule the surgery after the results of the

second ultrasound. In July I did a course of MMS lasting about 3 weeks. The MMS treatment

was unpleasant. (WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER TREATMENT NOW). Every time I took a dose

I felt ill. I had diarrhea, vomiting, and nausea. I experience excruciating pain in my right

side (the affected ovary). I stuck with it dropping down a few drops then ramping back up

until I reached 15 drops 2 times a day. (WE NEVER DO THAT ANY MORE. WE TAKE MUCH

SMALLER DOSES AND THE NEW PROTOCOLS ARE MORE EFFECTIVE). I found that I would

get less nauseas if I ate a half hour before taking MMS. I just got the results of the repeat

ultra sound. The ovarian tumor is gone completely and my uterus is normal and healthy.

The doctor said he doesn’t know why but I no longer need surgery or a biopsy. Everything is

normal. Sincerely.”


(Can’t use their names but if someone wanted to ask for

permission to contact her we can write her for permission or maybe

have her write you). (THE NEW PROTOCOL CONSISTS OF SMALL

HOURLY DOSES AND THE PRACTICE IS TO ALWAYS STOP SHORT OF

NAUSEA OR PAIN).

So far we have had people from more than 40 countries come to

our seminars her in the Dominican Republic. You can come for 1 or 2

weeks, but most people come for two weeks. Last seminar only one

person didn’t stay for the last week. The first week is the complete

theory and protocols of MMS. And the second week is 3 days of

practical experience treating local villagers, normally treating several

hundred villagers. Our class rooms, sleeping quarters, dining and

kitchen area and everything is behind 12 foot cement walls. It is a well

done compound here in the Dominican Republic on the outskirts of a

larger city called Barahona. We furnish water to the local villagers and

some work for us, and thus they are our very good friends.

All those completing the first week are awarded a Minister of Health

Class 1 and those completing the second week are awarded a Minister

of Health Class 2. A doctor of MMS will be awarded in the future to

those who have really used MMS to help people with their health.

Requirements will be listed at a future date for this certificate, as will

requirements for Priest and Priestess and for Bishop. The cost of the

course is $1000 for the first week and $500 for the second week. All

those who come make friends and contacts of people from around

the world. Most have told me that this is one of the most meaningful

experience of their lives. OH YES, I ALMOST FORGOT, SPOUSES

COME FREE.

For more info. please contact us at deleted


Don’t forget our video course is now delivering. It is a full week

with a complete test at the end. Pass the test and you can become

a minister. Cost is $375. You get 4 super concentrated disks, the

complete transcript of the same course but an earlier presentation

so you can read an earlier presentation of the same data, and a

comprehensive test that proves you know the data or not. When

you pass the test, we will send you a “Certificate of Completion”

and “Minister of Health certificate”.

For more info., please contact us @ deleted


And now one small point of layman technical data before I leave you.

Oxygen is an oxidizer. But that also makes it bleach. Oxygen oxidizes

things in the body which creates heat and life. Oxygen is powerful and

thus the body generates antioxidants to prevent oxygen from doing

damage, none the less, it does a certain amount of damage. MMS

is an oxidizer. It is a bleach as well, but it is a weaker bleach than

oxygen. MMS will not bleach or oxidize as many things in the body

as will Oxygen. The fact is MMS is less damaging to the body than

is oxygen, but MMS cannot keep the body alive with oxidation like

oxygen can. Each has its job, but the fact is, MMS cannot damage the

body with oxidation as it is a weaker oxidizer than oxygen. There is

one other thing that MMS can do in the body. It can oxidize heavy

metal compounds. Please understand this as it overcomes many of

the objections now being voiced.


Jim Humble


MMS saves lives!!!!



For more info., please contact us at the following e-mails:


1.

MMS Seminars: (Rabelais -All email addresses deleted)
2.

MMS Video course:
3.

Genesis II Church membership:
4.

MMS newsletters:
5.

MMS Info. and inquiries:
6.

Genesis II Church Hompage: _Genesis2church.org
7.

Genesis II Church blog: _Genesis2church.com
 

Laura

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Here is a chlorine dioxide toxicity report:

http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc216.htm

It talks about other chemicals as well.
 

Gaby

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Moderator
FOTCM Member
Apparently, MMS is changing names. Just got this from a health e-group:

*Jim Humble* *MMS** NEWSLETTER *

*MMS Name Change! **
*

*The word *_*Miracle*_* phases out and the word *_*Master*_* replaces it. *

Well, that's it. _*The MMS remains the same,*_ just the first word
changes from* Miracle* to *Master. *"*Master Mineral Solution*" is now
the name of MMS. I know, I know, there are a lot of people who after
using MMS like the name miracle, because that is what it is. I like the
name Miracle too, but many people have asked me to change the name and
others have told me that they didn't use it just because of the name
"Miracle." They say it sounds too much like snake oil. Many people have
already told me that they prefer the new name change. The FDA and others
will play on our name change for a while but eventually that will die
out as MMS becomes known as the/_* “Master Mineral of the Third
Millennium.” *_/

And this new name tells what it is, too._ __*It's the Master Mineral of
the Third Millennium.*

[...]

The Master Mineral!? :O
 

combsbt

Jedi Master
Psyche said:
Apparently, MMS is changing names. Just got this from a health e-group:

*Jim Humble* *MMS** NEWSLETTER *

*MMS Name Change! **
*

*The word *_*Miracle*_* phases out and the word *_*Master*_* replaces it. *
[...]

The Master Mineral!? :O

How about "Miserable Mineral Solution", or "Malicious Mineral Solution"?
 

Gimpy

The Living Force
Laura said:
Here is a chlorine dioxide toxicity report:

http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc216.htm

It talks about other chemicals as well.


I've noticed no troll activity on the current sott articles concerning Mr. Not so Humble. Hmmmmm....think they've given up? :rolleyes:
 

Laura

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Gimpy said:
I've noticed no troll activity on the current sott articles concerning Mr. Not so Humble. Hmmmmm....think they've given up? :rolleyes:

Maybe they know we've got a couple people in Africa investigating Jim Humble's claims?
 

Gimpy

The Living Force
Laura said:
Gimpy said:
I've noticed no troll activity on the current sott articles concerning Mr. Not so Humble. Hmmmmm....think they've given up? :rolleyes:

Maybe they know we've got a couple people in Africa investigating Jim Humble's claims?


Excellent!!! :rockon:
 

Guardian

The Living Force
Rabelais said:
Requirements will be listed at a future date for this certificate, as will requirements for Priest and Priestess and for Bishop. The cost of the course is $1000 for the first week and $500 for the second week. All those who come make friends and contacts of people from around the world.

$1500.00 to become a Bishop of Bleach ......I sooooooooo missed my calling :lol2:
 

scifiscriptwriter

The Force is Strong With This One
Hi Laura - I am new here - but as leaving for Dom Rep. tomorrow for 2 weeks to do Humble's informal seminar. I agree (but alas do not always follow) pretty much what you mention above on what to eat. I do add kefir (made with kefir grains - ref. Dominic in Oz) and sprout as many beans and seeds as I can to add to salads.

Best - JJ
 

Laurentien2

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FOTCM Member
scifiscriptwriter said:
Hi Laura - I am new here - but as leaving for Dom Rep. tomorrow for 2 weeks to do Humble's informal seminar. I agree (but alas do not always follow) pretty much what you mention above on what to eat. I do add kefir (made with kefir grains - ref. Dominic in Oz) and sprout as many beans and seeds as I can to add to salads.

Best - JJ

Maybe you should pay more attention to what you eat or ingest, specialy with the Like of Humble. If you believe and are ready to swallow bleach to get healthy, you got some strange idea. You stated in another tread;
I started getting aquainted with the web and it's wealth of info (both accurate and of course non-acurate).
The web is a jungle and good luck to anyone facing it alone, hopefully you will learn about networking and that strength is in number. This forum offer knowledge and as you know knowledge protect but, it's up to anyone to use it or not. Bon voyage!
 

Guardian

The Living Force
scifiscriptwriter said:
Hi Laura - I am new here - but as leaving for Dom Rep. tomorrow for 2 weeks to do Humble's informal seminar.

Hiya JJ,

Ya might want to read ALL of this thread before you take off to spend two weeks with the Cardinal of Chlorine. I WISH the MMS claims were true.. it would be WONDERFUL if curing our ills were that easy, but it's not.

You know the old expression "If it looks too good to be true?" Well, I get the feeling you might have found this forum and thread "in the nick of time" so to speak? Enjoy your trip, see the sights, but PLEASE don't drink stuff that belongs in your swimming pool. :scared:
 

Voyageur

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Hi JJ,

Please keep you eyes open here before embarking upon the Sovereign Solution, however if you decide to go, have a nice trip and welcome to the Forum. :)
 

Gaby

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The following is a message from Mr. Humble in response to the following article:
MMS: Miracle Mineral Solution or Trojan Horse? Your Body and DNA Decide
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/213275-MMS-Miracle-Mineral-Solution-or-Trojan-Horse-Your-Body-and-DNA-Decide

Jim Humble
E-mail jimvhumble@gmail.com
Message Gabriela, I am just going to test your logic capabilities since your article keeps getting passed around on the internet. That's me the guy that discovered MMS.

In your article you made some absolute statements so I decided to test your logic. The body uses oxygen to destroy pathogens in the body. I'm sure you have heard that. logic point number 1. Oxygen has a higher oxidation potential than MMS (chlorine dioxide). Logic 2. Oxygen does not destroy most of the useful bacteria in the body even though it is carried to areas where the useful bacteria lives. Logic 3. With a lower oxidation potential than oxygen, MMS cannot destroy more things than oxygen, it can only destroy less things. Logic 4. If oxygen cannot destroy the beneficial bacteria and since MMS has less oxidation strength than oxygen, plus .95 volts as opposed to oxygens 1.3 volts (approximate), is is only logical that MMS will not be able to destroy the beneficial bacteria either.

Next point: The outer surface of a bacteria is 10,000 times thinner than the walls of the intestines and other walls of other organs of the body. You don't need a lot of clinical trials to determine these points of logic, all you need is the ability to think. I must assume that your knowledge of solutions would tell you that a solution running through the body that is .00004% chlorine dioxide when it enters the body is a fairly dilute solution. I must then assume that you logic would tell you that it might be possible for such a dilute solution to destroy part of the outer wall of a bacteria that is less than 1/10,000 of an inch thick. And at the same time this dilute solution would have no effect on a, for instance, intestinal wall that is 10,000 times thicker than the outer wall of the bacteria. In addition, the scientific fact is that the pathogen has a negative ORP (I assume you know what that is, being a doctor and all) and that the negative ORP of the pathogen will cause it to be attracted to the MMS which is positive.

Final point: Gabriela, I am sure if you will remember that your highschool science class showed you that like charges repel and unlike charges attract. So chlorine dioxide has a positive.95 volt charge. And most of the cells of all the various tissues and organs of the body also has a positive charge of about .050 volts or so, being a doctor you would know that. So remember the science class. Like charges repel and thus the body parts are going to repel the chlorine dioxide and thus the chlorine dioxide in theory will not touch the body parts as it will be repelled and thus there will be no damage to the body. And guess what, out of 5 million users, no damage reports so far.

Now Gabriela, your article with no logical data and no understaning of chemistry has done much damage. Hundreds if not thousands of people who could have gotten well have not done so as they have believed you. I make no money from the sale of MMS. People like you hate to see someone who is working for mankind and is not receiving and does not expect money for his work. But I will tell you this Gabriela, I am compensated ten thousand times as much as you, a person who operates on people for money, when you already know that with MMS those operations are not necessary . So now there have been 5 million users of MMS, well, 5 million downloaded my free book. In Mexico now 55 Autistic children now walking and talking that they never did before. And thousands of emails from all over the world, more than 100 thousand emails. Emails every day Gabriela thanking me. I don't worry about you Gabriela. Your evil deed of writing what you know not about to hurt thousands of people have made you completely out of my care range. What I do care about is all those whom you hurt by your carelesss and irrisponsible writing. Change you message before it destroys you as eventually those people will enter your dreams.

Jim Humble

As SOTT.net specifies in the article: What SOTT wants from Jim Humble is certifiable proof of his claims. At the very least, we want witness testimonies from individuals who can be contacted, who have something to lose by lying, not just an anonymous Greek chorus. We also want Jim Humble's bona fides. He says he is a chemist, well, let us see his verifiable CV.
 
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