M.M.S. Miracle Mineral Solution and Jim Humble

Gimpy

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Change you message before it destroys you as eventually those people will enter your dreams.

Jim Humble


Huh? I've read some crazy ramblings in my day, but THIS parting shot is juvenile. :lol:


The man doesn't have a leg to stand on, and he knows it. Why else would he keep up with more of the same tripe? (And I have to wonder if that last remark constitutes a veiled threat.)
 

Guardian

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Gimpy said:
Change you message before it destroys you as eventually those people will enter your dreams.

Jim Humble


Huh? I've read some crazy ramblings in my day, but THIS parting shot is juvenile. :lol:


The man doesn't have a leg to stand on, and he knows it. Why else would he keep up with more of the same tripe? (And I have to wonder if that last remark constitutes a veiled threat.)

Yeah...that's how it felt to me too. :mad:

Of course the fact that he doesn't know the difference between "you" and "your" does kind of take the edge off the threat. :rolleyes:
 

WhiteBear

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If this stuff actually worked, then why aren't people jumping up out of their chlorinated pools praising the miraculous healing powers of the water? I know in my day I accidentally swallowed -plenty- of pool water, and got nothing from it but a stomach ache.
 

Nicholas

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Jim Humble
E-mail jimvhumble@gmail.com
Message Gabriela, I am just going to test your logic capabilities since your article keeps getting passed around on the internet. That's me the guy that discovered MMS.

In your article you made some absolute statements so I decided to test your logic. The body uses oxygen to destroy pathogens in the body. I'm sure you have heard that. logic point number 1. Oxygen has a higher oxidation potential than MMS (chlorine dioxide). Logic 2. Oxygen does not destroy most of the useful bacteria in the body even though it is carried to areas where the useful bacteria lives. Logic 3. With a lower oxidation potential than oxygen, MMS cannot destroy more things than oxygen, it can only destroy less things. Logic 4. If oxygen cannot destroy the beneficial bacteria and since MMS has less oxidation strength than oxygen, plus .95 volts as opposed to oxygens 1.3 volts (approximate), is is only logical that MMS will not be able to destroy the beneficial bacteria either.

So, extending his logic argument then, MMS would be less effective in killing the bad bacteria as well. So what is the point of using MMS?
 

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His whole tone is condescending and scare tactics at the end. Unbelievable. He wants to test your logic instead of showing his bona fides? I wonder why. :rolleyes:

And guess what, out of 5 million users, no damage reports so far.

Uhm, I am supposing that those who have died and gotten very sick after using this poison don't count?

His whole email is nothing but horse hockey!
 

GRiM

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So many hooks in that email, and the tone he used. Argh, anyone with just the slightest knowledge about pathological people will recoil from reading it. *recoils*

edit: Great work making him uncomfortable with your excellent article about the "miracle"-bleach!
 

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Humble said:
But I will tell you this Gabriela, I am compensated ten thousand times as much as you, a person who operates on people for money, when you already know that with MMS those operations are not necessary .

:lol: Little does he know that Psyche, like all SOTT editors, doesn't touch a cent for their articles.

So now there have been 5 million users of MMS, well, 5 million downloaded my free book. In Mexico now 55 Autistic children now walking and talking that they never did before. And thousands of emails from all over the world, more than 100 thousand emails. Emails every day Gabriela thanking me.

I guess he forgot all those from people who complain about MMS and are now daring to speak up.

I don't worry about you Gabriela.

Oh yeah? Pretty obsessive for someone who doesn't worry.

Your evil deed of writing what you know not about to hurt thousands of people have made you completely out of my care range.

Yes, yes... Evil deed???? Wow! Catch out! :P

What I do care about is all those whom you hurt by your carelesss and irrisponsible writing.

Yes, please, stop your carelessS (that means VERY careless) irrIsponsible writing. LoL! If he is so rIsponsible, why doesn't he provide us with what SOTT has always wanted, i.e. certifiable proof and credentials?

All I have to say is: :rotfl:
 

Mountain Crown

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[quote author=Nienna Eluch]I wonder why.[/quote]

It seems Humble is hoping for a personal reaction from Dr. Segura which later he could try to use against her.
 

3DStudent

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I was forgiving of his spelling errors. But I didn't catch the irony in this:

What I do care about is all those whom you hurt by your carelesss and irrisponsible writing.

It's hilarious that his writing is careless(s?) and irresponsible. His tone and mindset in the email is very telling.
 

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Ailén said:
Humble said:
But I will tell you this Gabriela, I am compensated ten thousand times as much as you, a person who operates on people for money, when you already know that with MMS those operations are not necessary .

:lol: Little does he know that Psyche, like all SOTT editors, doesn't touch a cent for their articles.

I know better now, that is, with dietary changes and detoxification, those surgeries are not necessary. But it just doesn't make any sense to poison your body any further!

He also must think that I made lots of money in heart surgery... All my former colleagues would be laughing hysterically at that one. Does he forgets that the system in other countries is not the same like in the U.S? You want to meet a person who will be willing to go 11 years to University to do an extremely high stressful job that doesn't pay your bills, without mentioning the fact that you have to do and be available to that job all the waking hours of your life? In some countries, heart surgery has the same cost as an appendix surgery. That is, for the system. For the person, they are both for free.

Humble said:
Your evil deed of writing what you know not about to hurt thousands of people have made you completely out of my care range.

The more he does rebuttals, the more he shoots himself in the foot. He really should drop it and let it go.

This feedback is from the Chlorine Chemistry Division of the American Chemistry Council:

Dr. Segura,

Thank you for your thoughtful analysis of a dangerous misuse of disinfectant products. Consumers should be aware that the U.S. Food & Drug Administration issued a press release July 30, 2010, warning of “serious harm from drinking Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS).” The FDA press release notes the agency has received reports of “health injuries from consumers using this product, including severe nausea, vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure from dehydration.

These products should never be ingested.

Best,
Mary Ostrowski
American Chemistry Council

So clearly, people have been complaining even though some don't speak because they think that toxicity symptoms are actually supposed "die-off" symptoms. Thinking about it, even candida die-off symptoms that can get really ugly, are not near as ugly as the reported symptoms by some people.

More feedback from other people:

Mario Cruzate says:
Tuesday, 12 October 2010 12:25 at 12:25

Certainly, this is a very dangerous solution. It happened that my son ordered this product thru internet with “OceansLab” company based in Boca Raton,FL. He drinked as directed this past Sunday and next day he woke up with headaches, during the day he started with nauseas (we didn’t know that he drank this product) and about 4:am on tuesday I took him to Emergency hospital with severe vomiting, headaches, diarrhea. He stays in ICU, went thru different procedures until Drs stabilized his body. I just called Oceans Lab and a woman answered, she said that they never advertized this product to be drink it and that they are not responsible for my son situation. I called FDA and they said that is unfortunate that happened an required me to fill up some forms to report this incident. I don’t know what else to do because we have to pay the hospital bill and have no health insurance. Thanks for any advise

Helen Marie says:
Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:03 at 15:03

Please help me with this. I have searched web sites for an answer and still don’t know what to do. What kind of Dr would I go to if I took MMS and have been having problems ever since. I started having severe panic attacks and did not realize it was from the MMS until later. I am not the same after taking it for 2 months. I lost over 50 lbs in the 2 months and do not know what I have done to my body. I told my Dr and he said it was harmless, like the bleach you get when drinking water. I know it is more than that. I have high copper levels and have not taken it for a month but still am having problems. Would it be out of my system and why am I having problems now? Crying, panic, fears, unable to sleep, I’m a totally different person now and I’m scared of what it has done. Thank you

Hula Anglers says:
Monday, 6 September 2010 06:54 at 06:54

It seems chlorine is accepted by the FDA

US Pushing Drugged, Vaccinated, Chlorinated Chickens on the World

Global Research, September 4, 2010

After over half a billion eggs were recalled from two factory hen layer operations in Iowa,[1] New York lawmakers proposed mandating vaccines against salmonella. [2] Mainstream media then blasted this message across the world. As the world’s largest producer of poultry [3] and second largest exporter [4], the US continues to hammer Russia about its embargo of chlorinated chickens.[5] Home to the biggest pharmaceutical and chemical companies in the world, the US is fond of throwing drugs and chemicals at a problem instead of addressing the filth of factory farms.

Russia, the top importer of US poultry, produces only half of its chicken consumption. [6] It banned chlorinated chickens on January 1, but recently reopened its doors to 70 US companies in line with a chlorine-free agreement between Presidents Obama and Medvedev in late June. [7] Obama balked, however, when Russia asked to inspect the processing plants. [8]

On August 31, thirty US Senators sent a letter to Russia’s ambassador asking for a full lift of the ban, but failed to mention the chlorine issue. Instead, profits were stressed. [9]

Until 2008, the European Union also banned chlorinated poultry. Greenpeace condemned the procedural maneuver that removed public debate on the issue. [10]

But the global market for US poultry more than made up for Russia’s hesitancy. June was a phenomenal month for US exports – marking a 20-month high. In its latest export report, the US Dept. of Agriculture (USDA) wrote: [11]

“Increases in shipments to Mexico (26%), the Baltic States (60%), Newly Independent States (including Belarus, Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan) (155%), Philippines (310%), Korea and Hong Kong (174%), and Japan (181%) all rose beyond last June’s shipment volumes.

In a single month, the Ukraine increased imports from one million pounds of poultry to almost 30 million.

Chlorinated chicken poses a health risk

Despite global acceptance of US chicken decontamination procedures, chlorine is a known carcinogen. It reacts with and is retained by muscle tissue, but especially fats and the liver of chickens. [12] It is a boon for the poultry industry, though. Chlorine treated chicken carcasses weigh more than those treated with unchlorinated water. [13]

As to carcass sanitation, “the most common (and recommended) disinfecting method is steamed/hot water (>180 ºF) instead of applying antimicrobial substances,” explains Marc Thibault of Green Age. [14]

The USDA reports that there are currently 280 million egg-laying hens in the US, producing about 77 billion eggs a year. [15] Hens usually produce eggs until they are 18-26 months old. [16] Once spent, some are rendered into “human food, pet food, mink feed and poultry feed,” reports United Poultry Concerns. [17] While most layers do not make it into the food supply, some show chlorine contamination via commercial feed, which passes into their eggs. [18]

Both broilers and layers live in ghastly conditions in concentrated poultry houses, as recent films like “Fresh” and “Food, Inc.” revealed. Chickens raised for human consumption eat genetically modified feed laced with antibiotics. They are bred for large breasts – beyond what their legs can support. Not that there is room for mobility – most live in 68 square inches of space. A US farmer told Russian bloggers: [19]

“‘Modern’ poultry production condemns the poor chickens to living in their own filth leading to all kinds of problems from breathing in the fecal dust and excess ammonia.

“This produces a meat that is less than firm and very absorbent. This absorbency is terrible for us because of what happens when the chicken is cleaned. Because processing is highly mechanized… many intestines are torn during evisceration thereby soiling many of the carcasses, which are then ‘sterilized’ in a chlorine bath (better known as a fecal bath) which the absorbent meat sponges up for us to later eat.”

The difference in taste and texture between chlorinated, drugged chicken and organic, fresh chicken is obvious.

Vaccines not needed

The salmonella outbreak which began in the Spring has sickened 1,470 people. [20] This comprises only one percent of 142,000 cases each year. [21]

Both companies involved in the egg recall, Hillandale Farms and Wright County Egg, use vaccinated hens. Wright spent over half a million dollars on vaccines, and 80 percent of Hillandale’s supply is vaccinated, yet salmonella managed to survive. [22]

The pharmaceutical industry, of course, pushes vaccines. Inactivated salmonella vaccines, as well as live and genetically modified ones, are used. One of the three main suppliers in the US, Lohmann Animal Health International, asserts, “Vaccination programs must be a major component of Salmonella control programs.” [23]

However, the new egg rules of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which became effective on July 9, do not require vaccines. Field trials did not conclusively proved them to be effective. Instead, the FDA mandated egg refrigeration and increased testing, cleaning and inspection, and only encourages vaccine use. [24]

Even assuming vaccine efficacy, they are not needed. In its apologetic statement this week [1], the Iowa Poultry Association reminded the public that the Centers for Disease Control and the FDA “both state that thoroughly cooked eggs are thoroughly safe eggs.

“Consumers should know that Salmonella is destroyed by the heat of proper cooking. Eggs should be cooked until the whites and yolks are firm. For dishes containing eggs, the internal temperature should reach 160 °F.”

Russia’s Institute of Public Health agrees. “People don’t need to worry a lot about these infected chickens because, in fact, all of them are infected…. To avoid contamination, you should carefully wash the chicken and expose it to high temperatures until it becomes grey.” [25]

Since proper cooking kills salmonella, and thorough cooking kills salmonella, why vaccinate the hens? The massive hype from corporate media about the need for more drugs in the food supply can only serve to generate profits for Big Pharma.

Antibiotic overuse

Chickens raised for human consumption are fed a steady stream of antibiotics. Although the FDA concluded ten years ago that this has led to drug resistance, [26] little has been done to end the practice. A renewed effort is now gaining traction.

The Preservation of Antibiotics for Medical Treatment Act (“PAMTA”) (HR 1549, S 619) would ban giving antibiotics to healthy farm animals. [27] The Union of Concerned Scientists explains:

“An estimated 70 percent of all antibiotics used in the United States are regularly added to the feed of livestock and poultry that are not sick–a practice with serious consequences for our health. Bacteria that are constantly exposed to antibiotics develop antibiotic resistance. This means that when humans get sick from resistant bacteria, the antibiotics prescribed by doctors don’t work.” [28]

As to hens raised to produce eggs, Steve Roach, a Program Director for Food Animal Concerns Trust,[29] told Food Freedom that “bacitracin, erythromycin, and tylosin are approved for increasing lay.” They may be legally used “in the 20 weeks before they go into production.”

This is where it gets tricky. “The last two [drugs] are considered critically important with respect to human health and the potential for resistance.”

The group, Health Care Without Harm, provides a list of organizations in support of PAMTA and more resources for further reading. [30] You can also sign their petition in support of the bill. [31]

On September 16, you can listen to an hour-long webinar on “Superbugs, Super Problems: Agricultural Antibiotics and Emerging Infections.” The program starts at 1 pm EDT. You must pre-register. [32] Three of the speakers recently testified before Congress on the issue.

The Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy notes that one result of antibiotics overuse “is the emergence of new infections with farm links, including Salmonella resistant to multiple drugs (including the critical cephalosporins), resistant E coli, and MRSA.”

Buy Local: It’s safer and improves the local economy

As Russia weighs the benefits of cheaper, but chemically and biologically contaminated chicken from the US versus safer, locally raised poultry, it should consider its superior position. Not a part of the World Trade Organization, Russia does not have to sacrifice quality and can force the US to clean up its act. Half of all US exports to Russia comprised chicken – amounting to $900 million in 2008. [33] That’s a hefty bit of leverage.

Nations are well-advised to consider food safety and food security before allowing our chemically adulterated supply into their markets.

US food has been attributed to our skyrocketing rates of obesity, diabetes, heart disease and cancer. Recall that industry insiders run government agencies, a fact widely reported by watchdog groups. Also consider the recent push by US officials to get people to eat seafood from the Gulf of Mexico, despite scientific reports cautioning against it because of the destructive use of toxic oil dispersants, as well as the 200-plus million gallons of oil spilled. [34]

Instead of throwing another drug at filthy, concentrated animal feeding operations, safe and environmentally friendly alternatives abound. One is to raise your own backyard chickens. Author Patricia Foreman provides five good reasons to raise your own small flock in her new book “City Chicks: Keeping Micro-flocks of Chickens as Garden Helpers, Compost Makers, Bio-reyclers, and Local Food Producers.”

The Rodale Institute summarized her work [35]: In addition to giving you complete control over egg quality, it turns out the easily raised birds are also good for soil and gardens, and reduce landfills by recycling your organic waste.

Supporting local agriculture benefits local economies, reduces pollution and lowers the risk of pathogenic spread. A decentralized food system provides food security and economic sovereignty far superior to any trade agreement across borders.

NOTES

[1] Statement of the Iowa Poultry Association, 31 Aug 2010. http://www.iowapoultry.com/media_room.php?StoryID=9

[2] Erin Durkin, “New York pols push for bills requiring salmonella vaccination for hens after egg recall,” New York Daily News, 30 Aug 2010.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/08/30/2010-08-30_albany_pols_egged_on_by_salmonella.html?r=news#ixzz0yFOlQ4OM

[3] The Poultry Site, “Global Poultry Trends – Americas Are Largest Producer and Exporter of Chicken,” July 2010.
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/1774/global-poultry-trends-americas-are-largest-producer-and-exporter-of-chicken

[4] Economic Research Service, “Poultry and Eggs: Trade,” US Dept. of Agriculture, 16 Apr 2009.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Poultry/trade.htm

[5] Meat Trade News Daily, “USA – What a pitiful indictment on USDA,” 31 Aug 2010.
http://www.meattradenewsdaily.co.uk/news/310810/usa___what_a_pitiful_indictment_on_usda_.aspx

[6] Russia Today, “End of U.S. poultry imports leaves onus [on] domestic producers,” 15 Jan 2010.
http://rt.com/Business/2010-01-15/poultry.html?fullstory

[7] Reuters, “’Technical Issues’ Keep U.S. Poultry Sidelined,” 5 Aug 2010.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/technical-issues-keep-us-poultry-sidelined/411707.html

[8] Dmitry Solovyov and Roberta Rampton, “Russia to partly lift chicken ban; US wants more,” Reuters, 13 Aug 2010.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE67C1SF20100813

[9] Senator Ben Cardin, Press Release, 31 Aug 2010. http://cardin.senate.gov/news/record.cfm?id=327417

[10] Greenpeace European Unit, “Greenpeace reactive statement on chlorinated chicken decision,” 28 May 2008.
http://www.eubusiness.com/topics/food/greenpeace.08-05-28

Also see: EurActive News, “Outrage at plans to lift ‘chlorine chicken’ ban,” 29 May 2008.
http://www.euractiv.com/en/food/outrage-plans-lift-chlorine-chicken-ban/article-172810

[11] Rachel J. Johnson, “Livestock, Dairy, and Poultry Outlook,” USDA, 18 Aug 2010.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Publications/LDP/2010/08Aug/ldpm194.pdf

[12] European Food Safety Authority Scientific Panel, “Treatment of poultry carcasses with chlorine dioxide, acidified sodium chlorite, trisodium phosphate and peroxyacids,” EFSA Journal (2005) 297, 1-27, 6 Dec 2005.
http://www.efsa.europa.eu/fr/scdocs/doc/afc_op_ej297_poultrytreatment_opinon_en-rev2,0.pdf

[13] H. M. Cunningham, G. A. Lawrence, “Effect Of Exposure of Meat and Poultry to Chlorinated Water on the Retention of Chlorinated Compounds and Water,” Abstract. Journal of Food Science, Volume 42, Issue 6, pages 1504–1509, November 1977.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2621.1977.tb08411.x/abstract

[14] Marc Thibault, “European consumers organizations and farmers fight chlorinated chicken,” Green Age, 18 Jun 2008.
http://www.green-age.org/blog/2008/06/18/european-consumers-organizations-and-farmers-fight-chlorinated-chicken/

[15] US Department of Agriculture, “Export Trade Booming for Livestock and Poultry,” Aug 2010.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Publications/LDP/2010/08Aug/ldpm194tables.xls

[16] Food and Drug Administration, “Final Rule, Prevention of Salmonella Enteritidis in Shell Eggs During Production, Storage, and Transportation,” 9 Jul 2010, effective 9 July 2010. http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/Product-SpecificInformation/EggSafety/EggSafetyActionPlan/ucm170746.htm

[17] United Poultry Concerns, “Catching, Transport, and Slaughter ,” n.d.
http://www.upc-online.org/chickens/chickensbro.html

[18] Catherine Pirard and Edwin De Pauw, “Toxicokinetic study of dioxins and furans in laying chickens,” Abstract. Environment International, Volume 32, Issue 4, May 2006, Pages 466-469. http://snipurl.com/113mgx

[19] Windows to Russia, “Bad Move – Russia Lifts Chicken Ban on America,” 19 Aug 2010
http://windowstorussia.com/bad-move-russia-lifts-chicken-ban-on-america.html

[20] Betsy McKay, “FDA, Vaccine Manufacturers: No Worries of Salmonella From Flu Vaccines,” Wall Street Journal, 30 Aug 2010.
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2010/08/30/fda-vaccine-manufacturers-no-worries-of-salmonella-from-flu-vaccines/

[21] William Neuman, “U.S. Rejected Hen Vaccine Despite British Success,” New York Times, 24 Aug 2010.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/25/business/25vaccine.html

[22] World Poultry, “Vaccines could have prevented US Salmonella egg recall,” 25 Aug 2010.
http://www.worldpoultry.net/news/vaccines-could-have-prevented-us-salmonella-egg-recall-7851.html

[23] Lohman http://www.zootecnicainternational.com/article-archive/veterinary/704-spraying-chicks-with-salmonella-vaccines-at-the-hatchery-.html

[24] Food and Drug Administration, “New Final Rule to Ensure Egg Safety, Reduce Salmonella Illnesses Goes into Effect,” 9 Jul 2010. http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm218461.htm

[25] Russia Today, “80% of Moscow chicken meat contaminated with salmonella,” 2 Jun 2010. http://rt.com/prime-time/2010-06-02/chicken-meat-salmonella-moscow.html?fullstory

[26] Consumer Reports, “Chicken: Arsenic and antibiotics,” July 2007.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/food/food-safety/animal-feed-and-food/animal-feed-and-the-food-supply-105/chicken-arsenic-and-antibiotics/

[27] The Preservation of Antibiotics for Medical Treatment Act.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1549

[28] Union of Concerned Scientists, “Progress Curtailing the Use of Antibiotics in the Feed and Water of Animals,” n.d.
http://www.ucsusa.org/action/progress/PAMTA-progress.html

[29] Food Animal Concerns Trust http://www.foodanimalconcerns.org/#Scene_1

[30] Health Care Without Harm, “Protect Antibiotics Action Center,” n.d.
http://www.noharm.org/us_canada/issues/food/protect_antibiotics.php

[31] Petition in support of The Preservation of Antibiotics for Medical Treatment Act,
http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5140/t/8175/signUp.jsp?key=1459

[32] IATP Webinar “Superbugs, Super Problems: Agricultural Antibiotics and Emerging Infections,” September 16, 2010, 11 am-12 noon PDT; 12 noon-1pm MDT; 1-2 pm CDT; 2-3 pm EDT. Preregistration required:
http://www.iatp.org/healthyfoodbill/index.php?q=healthy-food-healthy-farms-webinar-series

[33] Dan Flynn, “Russia Bans U.S. Poultry Over Chlorine,” Food Safety News, 7 Jan 2010.
http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2010/01/russia-bans-us-poultry-over-chlorine/

[34] Kate Sheppard, “Is Gulf Seafood Really Safe?” Mother Jones, 17 Aug 2010.
http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010/08/gulf-seafood-really-safe

[35] Leah Zerbe, “5 Reasons Why Chickens Belong in Your City, Town, or Neighborhood,” Rodale Institute, 1 Sept 2010.
http://www.rodale.com/urban-chickens?page=0%2C0&cm_mmc=DailyNewsNL-_-2010_09_01-_-Top5-_-NA

[this is a google translation, original is in Spanish]

Hello.
The truth is that I have leucopenia, and its related diseases. I bought the MMS in Mexico, along with the MMS2 and citric acid. The truth is that when I opened the package, I opened the pill MMS2 and the smell threw me for q smells ugly, really really scared and decided not to take the pills. Ingested a single drop of mms1 and citric acid, the mixture of the drops began to release chlorine odor (aggressive on the nose) and began to turn a greenish color, I added water, would not start with 3 drops of c / u as indicated, but only by one and see what happens. Q What happened to me was this: I waited after ingesting something happened mentally or aq me feel something, nausea or something but nothing happened, approx 5 hours later I got diarrhea from that q is pure water, and hurt me the right abdomen region, as if he had something embedded there, between the liver and the appendix (the latter not if this right) but I got horrible, q had me put my hand to ease my pain. And that was all I did q did not see any improvement in my many symptoms, I actually felt much worse, with lethargy, mild nausea and general malaise. by that I mean if it's not bad or good, but I decided not to continue taking it, only expose qa what happened to me with a single drop. Well that's my experience and not continue to take it because I do not trust him. if anyone wants my two bottles MMS2 more pills to sell them is half what it cost me qa plus shipping. Actually I do not want to have it here at home. Greetings and if someone really helped him keep using it. Finally my comment is not to reject or accept the MMS is only my own conclusion that I hope will be respected. Greetings

We gave it a fair chance. I did my homework as well, and was fair with him in the article. It is really not safe, period.
 

JGeropoulas

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3D Student said:
I was forgiving of his spelling errors. But I didn't catch the irony in this:

What I do care about is all those whom you hurt by your carelesss and irrisponsible writing.

It's hilarious that his writing is careless(s?) and irresponsible. His tone and mindset in the email is very telling.

Good observation. Words often have a lot more meaning than people, in their mechanical, sleepy state, fail to notice (e.g. "dis-illusioned". "dis-enchanted" or "dis-couraged"). Similarly, the words people use--or "misuse" (e.g. "Freudian slips") often reveal truth about themselves they likewise fail to notice.
 

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[this is a google translation, original is in Spanish]

Hello.
The truth is that I have leucopenia, and its related diseases. I bought the MMS in Mexico, along with the MMS2 and citric acid. The truth is that when I opened the package, I opened the pill MMS2 and the smell threw me for q smells ugly, really really scared and decided not to take the pills. Ingested a single drop of mms1 and citric acid, the mixture of the drops began to release chlorine odor (aggressive on the nose) and began to turn a greenish color, I added water, would not start with 3 drops of c / u as indicated, but only by one and see what happens. Q What happened to me was this: I waited after ingesting something happened mentally or aq me feel something, nausea or something but nothing happened, approx 5 hours later I got diarrhea from that q is pure water, and hurt me the right abdomen region, as if he had something embedded there, between the liver and the appendix (the latter not if this right) but I got horrible, q had me put my hand to ease my pain. And that was all I did q did not see any improvement in my many symptoms, I actually felt much worse, with lethargy, mild nausea and general malaise. by that I mean if it's not bad or good, but I decided not to continue taking it, only expose qa what happened to me with a single drop. Well that's my experience and not continue to take it because I do not trust him. if anyone wants my two bottles MMS2 more pills to sell them is half what it cost me qa plus shipping. Actually I do not want to have it here at home. Greetings and if someone really helped him keep using it. Finally my comment is not to reject or accept the MMS is only my own conclusion that I hope will be respected. Greetings

Thought I would clarify this comment, since it is a google translation. He basically has a low white blood cell count, meaning that he has less defenses against pathogens. So perhaps that is why he thought that taking MMS was such a good idea. If MMS kills bugs, then that would protect him instead. But with the ingestion of one single drop of MMS AKA MMS1, he had diarrhea, nausea, lethargy, horrible abdominal pain, was basically very sick. Just one drop.
 

Guardian

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3D Student said:
I was forgiving of his spelling errors. But I didn't catch the irony in this:

What I do care about is all those whom you hurt by your carelesss and irrisponsible writing.

It's hilarious that his writing is careless(s?) and irresponsible. His tone and mindset in the email is very telling.

It's CLASSIC "psychopath accusing you of doing what they're actually doing" syndrome ...in a sentence. I 'bout fell out of my chair laughing.
 
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