M.M.S. Miracle Mineral Solution and Jim Humble

Meg

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chachachick said:
I think I may try the MMS and offer some to my family members.

One question...one isn't supposed to use juice with vitamin C when drinking the solution yet you can use lime or lemon juice as an activator of the MMS. Wouldn't using lime or lemon juice decrease the effectiveness? (I plan to use citric acid, which is the preferred activator according to the information I've read.)

Cha

Hi Cha,
From what I've read so far, vitamin C that occurs naturally is fine, so limes and lemons won't effect MMS. It's absorbic acid (added Vitamin C) that's a no no. Absorbic acid is added to almost all juices as a preservative.
 

Odyssey

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Thanks for clearing that up.
 

Meg

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Another video commentary by Dr Brady. He addresses Chlorine Dioxide and yeast infections, including Candida. He doesn't recommend using MMS as a primary therapy for killing candida due to the aerobic/anaerobic nature of candida.

Summary-Dr Brady V-log said:
-Chlorine Dioxide (MMS) is a potent antibiotic/antiviral compound that attacks those organisms that do not use oxygen for the production of energy.

- Yeast (in this case Candida infections) uses oxygen however can also survive in very little oxygen. Chlorine Dioxide may kill off some yeast, to a degree.

- “Bad” bacteria also fight each other so if as groups of bacteria die off, Candida may be given the green light to take over. This all depends on the overall intestinal environment and how the person is taking care of it…which is typically sub-par. Proper guidance is needed to make sure a proper treatment plan is in place. Even a “healthy” diet can cause a flare up. The use of properly dosed Colloidal Silver is very helpful in the overall treatment of Candida infections.

_http://doctorbrady.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/mms-chlorine-dioxide-and-yeast-infections-dr-brady-hurst/
 

aragorn

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Reading this thread and Jim Humble's writings was interesting - but somehow I feel unsure about the safety/benefits of using MMS/Chlorine Dioxide. I feel that I want to read a lot more research about this substance before putting it in my mouth ;) I know this is by no means a scientific opinion, but I got this "too good to be true" feeling when reading about this. Also the "Jungle-Story" by Jim Humble felt like "bogus" or at least partly made up.

Has someone read any more research about any harmful side effects or dangers using Chlorine Dioxide? For now, I feel like skipping this, taking the more holistic approach - detox, supplements, diet and sweating. And applying every once in a while some magnesium oil (miracle) ;D
 

gaman

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I'm in the same boat with you for now, Aragorn, although I did try it for about a week some months ago with no ill effects other than nausea. I've not continued because of other circumstances and now because of the doubts developed after more net research on the topic and source.

I've read hundreds of posts both pro and con regarding MMS and the chemical released (chlorine dioxide). It seems that this chemical is a seriously good disinfectant working against pathogens but the only areas that seem to be well researched concern its application externally against surfaces ( here is even one proposing to use it for decontamination of bird flu, and here is another use ) and for drinking water disinfection but there doesn't seem to be credible published research or articles that support ingesting it in some form.

Conversely, tons of testimonials / forum posts on various sites sing the praises of using the MMS protocol for detox or some ailment and confirmed that it cured them. They are very convincing to read. So is the MMS book. It is exciting to think that there is a cure for malaria, a great detox, a preventative for flu, etc.

In video interviews of Jim Humble the guy seems really great and likable. He also seems to want to get the word out there and help everyone by giving the information away for free. He doesn't sell the product himself. However, the searches for MMS articles published by people independent of Jim's business interests (or conflict of interest because they are a seller of MMS) proved unfruitful. Dr. Edward Lias wrote one article but it turns out he will be (as of 2008) the business and operations manager of Jim's foundation (see here further down the page). Another Dr Larry A. Smith PhThD is writing (or maybe rewriting as some claim) Jim's book and protocols and selling them. A weird pattern is that when I search for these people to find other things they have written and what their bonafides are, the only substantive thing that came up was their association with the MMS topic. e.g. Dr. Edward Lias is on the board of the American Literacy Council but their site has no content.

The negative results postings (excluding pure debunking postings by the same group of people) all seem to be regarding nausea/stomach discomfort/diarrhea (which is claimed to be a herx reaction), and in some female cases urinary tract infection.

As for debunking, in addition to the posts already in this thread, there is the MMS Exposed site and this appears to be the same source that blasts Jim/MMS in several forums.

If it is as good as claimed, then methinks the PTB would surely shut it down, or at least prevent any good scientific research. Hmmm... there is no good scientific research :) On the other hand, the information about the topic on the Internet seems to source back to 3 or 4 people, and lots of testimonials which can be easily faked, so it is very fishy, as is the claim of 75,000 people cured in Malawi that hasn't been independently substantiated anywhere I can find.

I wonder if there is a baby/bathwater situation here? Maybe it would be great to have some of this stuff on hand as a super disinfectant and cleaning compound for vegetables etc. but not so great to ingest it? I also wonder if in the short term, ingestion wouldn't be that harmful, but in the bigger picture it might be something insidious in a way similar to monoatomic gold? Either way, it sure seems to be a rapidly growing "industry".
 

JEEP

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Aragorn said:
For now, I feel like skipping this, taking the more holistic approach - detox, supplements, diet and sweating. And applying every once in a while some magnesium oil (miracle)

Well, I'm no expert here, but it would seem coconut oil might be a suitable way to deal with candida and the FIR sauna the best way to detox in addition to healthy diet and supplements, FWIW.

_http://www.naturalnews.com/025199_coconut_oil_candida_health.html said:
(NaturalNews) Often mis-diagnosed and even dismissed, candida is culprit behind numerous health problems. The symptoms associated with candida include fatigue, poor memory, mood swings, chronic coughs, frequent sinus infections, reoccurring fungal infections, blurred vision, sugar cravings and abdominal pain, to name a few.

As many as 40 million people in the United States suffer from candida, most without realizing the core issue. Many people who have candida overgrowth will end up treating the symptoms instead of the root of the problem, causing an endless spiral downward, sometimes for many years.

Even those who realize their symptoms are linked to candida find conventional drugs are not a permanent or effective solution. Not to mention medical treatments are often accompanied by side effects worse than the original symptoms. It's no wonder candida patients are seeking an alternative natural treatment. And fortunately, coconut oil can provide the answer.

In countries where coconuts are regularly consumed, candida occurrences are surprisingly low, as noted by Dr. Bruce Fife, a strong believer in the healing power of coconut oil. Although many people in these regions live in conditions that typically promote candida overgrowth, they rarely suffer from candida.

This is because coconut oil is high in both lauric acid and caprylic acid, which both have antiviral, antimicrobial and antifungal properties. These components of coconut oil target harmful bacteria but leave friendly bacteria alone, which helps balances the flora in the digestive system. They also kill off excess yeast and other fungal overgrowth in the body. Studies in Iceland and Nigeria show coconut oil is an effective agent for killing off candida yeast.

If you've heard conflicting reports and are concerned about whether or not coconut oil is healthy, keep in mind the natural, unrefined fats in coconut oil are medium-chain saturated fats–the kind that are more easily converted into energy instead of being stored. Adding a moderate amount of coconut oil to your diet should be considered safe. In fact, the saturated fat content in coconut oil makes it an excellent choice for cooking, because the oil is not damaged at high temperatures like other cooking oils.

Be sure not to buy coconut oil that has been hydrogenated. This destroys the beneficial attributes of coconut oil and makes it high in dangerous trans-fatty acids. The best kind of coconut oil is organic virgin coconut oil, which is closest to its natural state and will provide the most health benefits.

Both Dr. William G. Crook and Dr. Bruce Fife suggest working up to consuming about three tablespoons of coconut oil daily. It's best to start with one teaspoon per day and then work up to the full amount. The more severe the candida, the slower you should work up to this number to prevent overwhelming die-off symptoms as excess yeast is killed off. These symptoms are flu-like and include headaches, chills and fatigue. They will normally last about 3-5 days, depending on the severity of your candida.

Adding coconut oil to your diet is not difficult to do. Depending on the brand you buy, coconut oil has a very light flavor suitable for almost any purpose. You can easily substitute coconut oil for butter on toast or cooking oil in recipes. Try adding a tablespoon to coffee, or stir some into your oatmeal.

You can use coconut oil topically if you have a breakout of athlete's foot or yeast rash. Coconut oil can also be used for localized treatment of jock itch and yeast infections. For any topical treatment, apply a small amount of coconut oil to the affected area 3-4 times each day. This treatment is most effective if you are also taking the oil internally.

Bredel, Matthew. (2008) Coconut Oil: Candida Cure.

Crook, William G. (1986) The Yeast Connection, Vintage Books.

Fife, Bruce. (2005) Coconut Cures: Preventing and Treating Common Health Problems with Coconut. Piccadilly Books.
 

Tomek

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I hadn't really paid attention to this thread so far, but the last CTD guided me here. This MMS story looks a little too good to be true, but why not. I click on some links, I finally found a link in french, and here ...

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(Yep! Firefox alert me about the dangerousness of this site for my computer. After ignoring the warning, I go to the site and, ultimately, this is only the translation of the U.S. website. No killer virus or trojan has destroyed my computer, what a relief)

In short ... I am quite interested in MMS. I pay more attention to what I eat since I started to have bleeding gums, and after a month of spirulina and mediterranean diet (not every day, harsh is the financial condition of a student :cool2:), my gums bleed a lot less, but still a little. I can't really afford a full detox program, not to mention the FIR sauna blanket, and the MMS solution seems tempting, and even a little easier ...

So, is it working, like a "shotgun detox" ?
 

anart

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Hi Polonel,

I'm sure Psyche can give you more information, but from what I understand about MMS, it is quite good for destroying pathogens in the body, however it must be used with great care since it is so strong. Using it too often or in too high quantity can result in serious damage in some cases - very serious. I just wanted to inject that caution into the discussion.
 

gaman

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I for one would love to hear from Psyche on this topic of MMS. As you can see from my post above, after reading this thread and conducting more research I still have doubts because of claims that don't seem to be substantiated and because of the source of information leading back to people making money off of it.

anart said:
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Using it too often or in too high quantity can result in serious damage in some cases - very serious. I just wanted to inject that caution into the discussion.

Anart, where did you find the info about the serious damage? In the MMS book by Jim Humble, he leads through the detox and then recommends it twice a week if I recall. My purpose in asking is that I have 2 bottles of the stuff and want to use it for detox and possibly treating ailments that may arise, but I didn't find any info on damage it may cause and why, how to detect early, etc.

My other purpose in asking you and also wanting to hear from Psyche is that I'm trying to tune my discernment better and learn to be more thorough. It seems as if at least you and Psyche have a conclusion pointing in a different direction than mine and I might could learn from that.
 

Iconoclast

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i'll add my (limited) experience FWIW.

i don't have any health issues so it is kinda hard for me to gauge effectiveness, but i did a series a couple of months ago (up to 8 drops or so) and since then my digestive system has sped up significantly. before that i had a bowel movement every 2-3 days and since the MMS program i have one daily (and sometimes two).

i'm currently on a new round, but i'm only up to 3 drops yet.


i have also given my parents a MMS set - they have several health issues which should improve with it, but so far they haven't started using it.
 

Gaby

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From what I've read and gathered, it is apparently a very good one, so if you have good experiences with it, then go for it. I'll post a few articles that I came across in the past, FWIW.

The instructions and cautions are a bit discouraging for me. I understand that some people have had negative results by taking MMS wrongly and taking some supplements with it, might de-activate it.
 

Gaby

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See original source for tables and more links: http://www.nutritionj.com/content/8/1/23

Effect of a supplement rich in alkaline minerals on acid-base balance in humans

Daniel König email, Klaus Muser email, Hans-Hermann Dickhuth email, Aloys Berg email and Peter Deibert email

University Hospital Freiburg, Centre for Internal Medicine, Department of Rehabilitation, Prevention and Sports Medicine, Germany

Abstract

Background

Western diets are considered acidogenic due to the high dietary acid load and a low intake of base-forming dietary minerals such as potassium, magnesium or calcium. In the present study we investigated the effect of a multimineral supplement (MMS) rich in alkaline minerals on acute and chronic regulation of acid-base balance with the pH of blood, urine and saliva as potential surrogate markers.

Methods

Parameters were measured (i) without MMS intake, (ii) in the three consecutive hours following ingestion (blood and urinary pH) and (iii) during one week with or without MMS intake (self-monitored using pH measurement strips).

Results

25 (15 female; 10 male) subjects (age 44 ± 14 y; BMI 23.9 ± 1.9 kg/m2) were enrolled in the investigation. Following acute administration of the MMS in the morning, blood ph (1 and 2 h after ingestion) rose from 7.40 to 7.41; p < 0.05, and also urinary pH 3 h after ingestion (5.94 to 6.57; p < 0.05) increased significantly.

Following longer-term supplementation, both the increase in urinary pH in the morning and in the evening occurred within 1 day. Compared to pH values without the MMS, average pH in urine was 11% higher in the morning and 5% higher in the evening. Analyses of food records showed that the increase in urinary pH was not related to dietary change.

Conclusion


Our results suggest that the ingestion of a multimineral supplement is associated with both a significant increase in blood and urinary pH. The health related consequences of this supplementation remain to be determined.

Background

Dietary behaviour has shown to influence acid-base balance [1]. In general, western diets are considered acidogenic due to the high amount of animal protein [2,3] and an insufficient intake of fruits and vegetables. This is associated with a high dietary acid load and a low intake of base-forming dietary minerals such as potassium, magnesium or calcium [4,5].

A mismatch between acid- and base-forming nutrients may result in subclinical low-grade acidosis [6]. Several mechanisms are employed to compensate the excess in dietary acid load. One of them is the release of alkaline calcium salts from the skeleton to maintain the acid-base balance. Hypercalciuria may have several pathological consequences; amongst others, it has been hypothesized that it contributes to the pathogenesis of osteoporosis [7]. Fruit and vegetable intake provides alkaline minerals in particular potassium salts [8]. Previous investigations have reported beneficial effects of dietary potassium and potassium-rich foods or mineral water on bone health [9,10]. Although large controlled clinical trials are still scarce, there is evidence that an increased intake of base-forming nutrients may be associated with improved health outcomes [11].

In some animal models, it has been shown that supplementation with alkaline minerals neutralizes diet-induced metabolic acidosis [12] and is associated with higher bone mass. In addition, potassium bicarbonate has been shown to reduce calcium excretion in postmenopausal women in a dose dependent manner [13]. Furthermore, in 18 postmenopausal women, bone resorption was reduced and bone formation was increased following potassium bicarbonate intake [9]. Comparable results were observed in 161 postmenopausal women following supplementation with potassium citrate [14]. Apart from the release of skeletal calcium to maintain acid-base balance, it has also been shown that a low pH stimulates osteoclasts and inhibits bone matrix mineralization [15]. Therefore, several lines of evidence suggest that a correction of dietary acid load could improve acid-base balance and thereby reduce chronic disease such as osteoporosis, kidney stones or sarcopenia [5,16,17]. The (EPIC)-Norfolk population has shown that urine pH may serve as an indicator of dietary acid-base load [18]. To our knowledge, there is very limited data showing that supplementation with alkaline minerals directly influences acid-base homeostasis in humans. Therefore we investigated the effect of a mineral supplement rich in alkaline minerals on acute and chronic regulation of acid-base balance through surrogate markers of blood, urine, and saliva pH [18].

Methods

All subjects completed a comprehensive medical examination and routine blood tests. Subjects were excluded if they showed inflammatory diseases or corresponding laboratory findings (elevated leukocytes, C-reactive protein or ESR), renal and pulmonary dysfunction or metabolic disorders, particularly disturbances in acid-base balance. Subjects with unstable dietary habits or taking supplements effecting acid-base metabolism were also excluded from the study. Participants were told to maintain their lifestyle behaviours and particularly nutritional habits throughout the study period.

The study protocol was approved by the ethical committee of the University of Freiburg and all subjects provided written informed consent.

The study protocol is shown in Fig. 1. The mineral supplements were provided by a German manufacturer (Basis Balance, Anton Huebner GmbH & Co. KG, Ehrenkrichen, Germany [table 1]). Following inclusion in the study, the course of pH, pCO2, bicarbonate and base excess was measured at baseline without any intervention in the fasting state at 8:00, 9:00, 10:00 and 11:00 am. Urinary pH was determined at 8:00 and 11:00 am. The following day, subjects completed standardized nutritional protocols on a daily basis, which were later analyzed using a computer based software programs (DGE-PC, Version 3.1). Study participants determined their urinary and salivary pH values at 8:00 ± 1 h am before breakfast and at 8:00 pm ± 1 h before dinner with pH test paper strips. Before beginning of the study, participants had been trained to interpret the colour of the pH paper.

On the occasion of the next examination, study participants ingested the mineral supplement dissolved in water in the dosage provided by the manufacturer (30 g) at 8:00 am without any other food intake. Again, pH, pCO2, bicarbonate and base excess were measured hourly from 8:00 until 11:00 am and urinary pH was determined at 8:00 am and 11:00 am. In the following week subjects continued to fill out the food records and ingested 30 g of the mineral supplement in the morning as well as in the evening. Urinary and salivary pH values were self-measured at 8:00 ± 1 h am in the morning before breakfast and at 8:00 pm ± 1 h in the evening before dinner by pH test paper strips.

After one week, the same examination took place as described before at 8:00, 9:00, 10:00 and 11:00 am (urine and blood).
Statistical methods

Normality of all variables was tested using the Kolmogorov-Smirnov test procedure. Testing for changes between examination at baseline and at each examination was done by paired sample T-test. All p values were two-sided and a p value of 0.05 or less was considered to indicate statistical significance. Analysis was conducted with the use of SPSS software (version 13.0).

Results

25 (15 female; 10 male) subjects (age 44 ± 14 y; BMI 23.9 ± 1.9 kg/m2) were enrolled in this investigation. All subjects completed the study without relevant side effects that could be ascribed to the supplement. The supplement was well tolerated and compliance was good.

None of the subjects showed abnormal values in any parameters investigated. There were no signs of severe acute or chronic disturbances in acid base balance, neither before nor during or after the supplement intake.

Alterations in blood pH are shown in Fig. 2. No significant changes were observed in blood pH measured hourly from 8 am to 11:00 am without intake of the multi-mineral supplement (MMS) (hatched bars). Following MMS in the morning, blood pH significantly increased both 1 and 2 hours after ingestion (black bars). The crossed bars demonstrate that the acute increase in pH was also detectable following 1 week of chronic MMS supplementation. In addition, baseline pH in the morning was significantly higher following one week of supplementation.

The changes in urinary pH in the morning are depicted in Fig. 3. Significant alterations were not observed without MMS (hatched bars). Following MMS, urinary pH was significantly higher in the 3 hour collection period than in the collection period before supplementation (black bars and crossed bars). Comparable to blood pH, urinary baseline pH at 8 a.m. was significantly higher after the 1 week supplementation period. Table 2 shows the changes in carbondioxide (pCO2), bicarbonate and base excess in blood. No alterations were found without MMS (Study Visit I). Following MMS ingestion in the morning (Study Visit II) pCO2, bicarbonate and base excess increased significantly. Following MMS ingestion after the 1 week supplementation period, the trend was comparable but only pCO2 at 10:00 and 11:00 a.m. were significant.

The results regarding self-monitored urinary pH in the morning and evening following the longer-term MMS are shown in Fig. 4 and 5. In the week without MMS, average urinary pH was 5.83 ± 0.08 in the morning and 6.11 ± 0.11 in the evening. No significant alterations from baseline value were observed. Within 24 hours, urinary pH increased significantly and remained elevated for the rest of the examination period. During the MMS mean pH in the morning was 6.28 ± 0.12 and 6.42 ± 0.13 in the evening. Also the increase in mean pH over the examination period was significantly different from mean pH without MMS (p < 0.01).

Table 3 demonstrates that dietary intakes of macronutrients, minerals and trace elements were not significantly different between the two intervention periods. Dietary potential renal acid load (PRAL = 0.49 × protein (g/d) + 0.037 × phosphorus (mg/d) - 0.021 × potassium (mg/d) - 0.026 × magnesium (mg/d) - 0.013 × calcium (mg/d)) was slightly positive and comparable during both interventions when the alkaline minerals of the supplements were not included in the equation. Inclusion of the alkaline minerals decreased PRAL levels from 5.4 ± 12 mEq to -17.5 ± 11.9 mEq.

No significant changes were observed in salivary pH measured both in the morning and in the evening (data not shown).

Discussion

The main finding of the present study was that the intake of this supplement rich in alkaline minerals was associated with a significant increase in blood and urinary pH. The small, albeit significant alkalisation of peripheral blood was already detectable following one hour after after consumption of the supplementation. The concomitant increase in plasma bicarbonate, pCO2 as well as the return of the slightly negative base excess to zero suggests that the mineral supplement had in fact metabolically influenced acid base balance.

Following the longer-term supplementation period, both, the increase in urinary pH in the morning and in the evening occurred within 1 day. Compared to the non-supplemented pH values, average pH in urine was 11% higher in the morning and 5% higher in the evening during the supplementation period. The data from the food records show that the increase in urinary pH was not related to any dietary change. It was an interesting finding that salivary pH did not change throughout the one week supplementation period. Our results suggest that salivary pH measurement, in contrast to determination of urinary pH, may not be an appropriate method to observe short term subtle changes in acid-base balance.

It should be noted that none of the study participants had any chronic disease or acid base imbalance. The fact that urinary pH increased following supplementation suggests that the subjects were not alkaline depleted. Nevertheless, the dosage provided enough additional alkaline minerals to improve alkaline mineral related processes of acid buffering.

Several studies have shown that increased dietary intake of alkaline mineral supplementation reduced the risk for several chronic disease conditions, mainly osteoporosis [11,19,20]. The aim of this study was not to prove the hypothesis if the intake of this supplement was associated with an improvement in any of these diseases and, therefore, no specific markers were analysed in blood or urine. Thus, it is speculative, if the evidenced alkalisation of blood and urine could have an impact on any of these chronic degenerative diseases. In view of the fact that the acidogenic properties and the resulting health problems of the prevailing western diet are more and more accepted, it remains an intriguing opportunity to correct the acid forming nutrients by alkaline minerals. Of course, changes in dietary behaviour, such as adding more fruit and reducing animal protein intake, should always be the first option [21,22].

We acknowledge the fact that the study was not placebo-controlled. It was not possible to design a placebo with a comparable solubility and flavour. However, we believe that the examination of the same measures with and without supplementation and including acute and chronic supplementation with dietary intake staying stable may, along with the unequivocal results, partly compensate for this weakness.

In conclusion, the results this study have shown that a supplementation with alkaline minerals was associated with a significant and rapid increase in blood and urinary pH and a long term increase in urinary pH after 1 week of supplementation. The health related issues of these findings remain to be determined in future studies.

Competing interests

The authors declare that they have no competing interests.
Authors' contributions

DK, AB, and PD conceived the idea for this study and participated in the design and coordination. DK and KM carried out the experiments and coordinated the collection of data. DK and PD performed the statistical analyses. PD, DK and AB helped for synthesis of the results and to draft the manuscript. HHD participated in study design and coordination. All authors read and approved the final manuscript.
Acknowledgements

The study was supported by Anton Hübner GmbH & Co. KG, Schloßstraße 11–17, D-79238 Ehrenkirchen, Germany.
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This is from the curezone forum

Tracking down side effects (physical and mental)/ countermeasures at MMS

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1459447

For most people with normal metabolic functions, MMS causes few and less severe side effects, such as fatigue and headache. However, there are some people who have experienced some substantial negative impacts. During my personal research on the mechanisms of MMS, I found some interesting connections to side effects of MMS with temporary physical and mental disorders, potentially caused by manifest enzyme deficiencies or interactions with supplements. What I share with you here are my notes taken so far, and this is not close to be a complete study. I have not had the time yet to dig any further. Please bear in mind that my personal conclusions are speculative, however not the facts discovered from research and studies.

What most people do not know : some popular antioxidants such as phenols and flavonoids (green tea catechins, berry extracts, grape seed extract , especially quercetin) are very effective inhibitors to important detoxification enzymes - and should be avoided in connection with MMS (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16289744). Not only would they deactivate partially the CLO2 potential by its reduction, but also could they aggravate side effects. Sometimes even food rich on these substances may cause trouble for persons with respective sensitivities.

It is possible that ingested CLO2 from MMS could also inhibit or overload certain enzyme activities and thus in combination with genetic defects, phenols and flavonoids a devastating synergistic effect is provoked. But even when applied in absence of phenols, MMS will somewhat produce a heavy load for the liver, by oxidation of red blood cells, glutathione, NADH, pathogens and toxic compounds and additionally may inhibit enzyme activity, further cascading to thyroid issues. Everybody should try to clarify his physical dispositions by blood tests before MMS is administered. Here are some examples of conditions which could increase the risks for side effects :

1) glucose-6-phosphate- dehydrogenase deficiency (see also Dr. Hesselink)

NACLO2/CLO2 decreases G6PD activity and leads to increase of methemoglobin levels in the blood. This effect is aggravated by the combination of sodium chlorite and copper.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7462905

http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprnt.htm


G6PD deficiency could lead to acute hemolytic anemia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemolytic_anemia


2) Methemoglobin reductase deficiency

MMS at higher doses will lead to oxidation of hemoglobin to methemoglobin.
Methemoglobin reductase converts methemoglobin back to hemoglobin.
It is dependant on NADH, NADH could also be oxidized by CLO2 (see.Dr. Hesselink)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methemoglobin


Both of theses first two deficiencies could result in methemoglobin saturation and in increased blood serum levels of bilirubin (jaundice).
Methemoglobin saturation can become a severe condition.


Abstract :

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Methemoglobin saturation is expressed as the percentage of hemoglobin in the methemoglobin state; That is MetHb as a proportion of Hb.

* 1-2% Normal
* Less than 10% metHb - No symptoms
* 10-20% metHb - Skin discoloration only (most notably on mucus membranes)
* 20-30% metHb - Anxiety, headache, dyspnea on exertion
* 30-50% metHb - Fatigue, confusion, dizziness, tachypnea, palpitations
* 50-70% metHb - Coma, seizures, arrhythmias, acidosis
* Greater than 70% metHb - Death
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Increased bilirubin is already found in 5%-10% of the population, described as Gilberts’s syndrome and generally considered a harmless genetic disorder. What is overseen is, that high bilirubin is toxic to the brain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilirubin) and may block proper use of thyroid hormones (thyroid related problems despite normal thyroid hormone levels). There are several liver and thyroid interactions : http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/95/9/559.
This may be an hint to the cause of the suspected influence of thyroid activity observed with NACLO2/CLO2 ingestion in animals studies – these could well be mostly liver related.

Liver related issues, bilirubin levels and even hemoglobin synthesis, could be addressed with S-Adenosyl methionine (SAMe), a liver coenzyme readily available as supplement. My recent personal experiences are excellent

SAMe helps to break down bilirubing. And may help with puritus (itching), a frequent reported side effect of MMS.

http://www.ahrq.gov/Clinic/epcsums/samesum.htm


http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/10835775-51738562/content~db=all~content=a787017288


The methyl group from SAMe is transferred into hemoglobin without any evident involvement of an enzyme. It could thus help to repair hemoglobin issues potentially caused by MMS.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/q1x0347t2w23465x/


SAMe is known for to be very effective on depressions, which makes me wonder about bilirubin, methemoglobin, hemoglobin to be involved with depressions and mental issues. But primarily SAM-e supports the liver and is very beneficial in many other aspects (pain relief, arthritis, joint cartilage liver damages). I can see a high benefit to supplement with SAMe during MMS treatments even for the healthiest. SAMe is said to work best in connection with vitamins B12 and B6.
SAMe is to be avoided by those diagnosed with bipolar depression.
Also NADH supplementation could be useful, since it may be oxidized by CLO2 and is needed to support methemoglobin reductase.

3) Glutathion-S-Transferase.

Glutathione S-transferase M1 (GSTm1 null) is a very common gene deficiency (46.8% of the Caucasian population). It is linked to problems with heavy metal chelation and excretion and studies hint to an increased risk for colon cancer.

MMS (NACLO2 / CLO2) is known to to reduce the glutathione levels, by oxidation but probably also by using up of glutathione due to the increased detoxification processes of the body to eliminate oxidation products from MMS (cell debris, oxidized toxins) .

A low GST activity could result to problems with mobilized heavy metals and toxic oxidation products from MMS treatment.

It would be important to support glutathione levels and GST activity, especially when applying MMS for longer periods. Glutathione can be boosted by food high in cysteine and supplementation of NAC and SAMe (induces glutathione synthesis). GST activity is induced by high coffee consumption and brokkoli (or other food rich in sulforaphan or glucosinolates)

http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/1/10/1153


4) Phenol-sulfotransferase

Phenol-sulfotransferase (PST) deficiency is linked to sulfur compound intolerances. Some people on this forum reported side effects with oral administration of DMSO and MSM and other sulfur compounds. MMS could have an impact on PST . It is more likely that an inhibited or overloaded PST activity is the cause for sulfur compound intolerances, rather than often cited candida.

PST deficiency is also connected with neurological disorders and heavy metal issues.
Further there are hints to interactions with high bilirubin blood levels.
If PST is deficient, then glutathione levels will also be affected with overall increased problems during MMS applications and NAC supplementation could cause side effects.

Here is an interesting article about PST issues (unknown source) :

http://www.newtreatments.org/Sulfur/ga/252/Autism%20and%20phenol-sulphotransferase

... to be continued
 

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Re: Miracle Mineral Solution-Chlorine Dioxide

Then, this thread in another forum, better check it out there:

Disinfection Formula - MMS Miracle Mineral Solution
_https://www.goldenplanetforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1232
 

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Re: Miracle Mineral Solution-Chlorine Dioxide

_http://www.examiner.com/x-12517-Miami-Holistic-Health-Examiner~y2009m7d16-Activated-MMS-Miracle-Mineral-Supplement-found-to-be-highly-effective-flu-prevention-and-treatment

Activated MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement) found to be highly effective flu prevention and treatment

Below is the abstract to a study, conducted by an independent research group, stating that ClO2 (chlorine dioxide, also known as activated MMS) denatures the Influenza A virus' "envelope proteins at a concentration well below the permissible exposure level to humans." The study authors, Norio Ogata and Takashi Shibata, proceed to state that this compound could be "useful as a preventive means against influenza in places of human activity without necessitating evacuation." In the study, 70% of the mice who contracted the virus without being treated by ClO2 died, while 100% of the treated mice recovered.

"We demonstrate that infection of mice induced by aerosols of influenza A virus was prevented by chlorine dioxide (ClO2) gas at an extremely low concentration (below the long-term permissible exposure level to humans, namely 0.1 p.p.m.). Mice in semi-closed cages were exposed to aerosols of influenza A virus (1 LD50) and ClO2 gas (0.03 p.p.m.) simultaneously for 15 min. Three days after exposure, pulmonary virus titre (TCID50) was 102.6±1.5 in five mice treated with ClO2, whilst it was 106.7±0.2 in five mice that had not been treated (P=0.003). Cumulative mortality after 16 days was 0/10 mice treated with ClO2 and 7/10 mice that had not been treated (P=0.002). In in vitro experiments, ClO2 denatured viral envelope proteins (haemagglutinin and neuraminidase) that are indispensable for infectivity of the virus, and abolished infectivity. Taken together, we conclude that ClO2 gas is effective at preventing aerosol-induced influenza virus infection in mice by denaturing viral envelope proteins at a concentration well below the permissible exposure level to humans. ClO2 gas could therefore be useful as a preventive means against influenza in places of human activity without necessitating evacuation."

Miracle Mineral Supplement contains the compound sodium chlorite (NaClO2), and was developed by Jim Humble, who has applied it to effectively treat malaria, HIV, and other illnesses. It is inexpensive to create and Jim created directions for anyone who wishes to make the compound to do so, indicating that he wishes to help humanity and isn't seeking to have a monopoly on something that can save millions of lives. The principle by which this compound works is relatively simple and the action of chlorite as it is metabolized does not appear to create exposure to chlorine compounds in a harmful way - it neutralizes pathogens without damaging cells, making it an ideal antibiotic and antiviral compound. This inexpensive treatment has not received acceptance from mainstream medical institutions, despite numerous clinical reports and an increasing amount of empirical data supporting the value of this treatment. There are now multiple sellers of products containing sodium chlorite and thousands of people claiming great health benefits as a result of using this.

Since this appears to be effective for flu prevention, one must wonder about the flu treatments and vaccines being promoted by pharmaceutical companies as responses to the flu epidemic that the media has hyped. After all, many of the TV shows on these same networks promoting flu hysteria and vaccinations are sponsored by advertisements from the drug and vaccine manufacturers. Can consumers really trust the information provided on corporate media programs? Why aren't the network news shows touting MMS, which is safe, inexpensive, and shown to neutralize viruses? It seems that those with large amounts of money get to guide what medical information reaches the public through mass media.

I'm sure there is lots of info in the MMS websites, but it is very interesting to know people's experiences with the product and what they find and share in forums.
 
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