Michael Tsarion on God and evil: Sitchin and Icke Redux

[Fifth Way]

I agree that sometimes the irony can be lost on those who have yet to complete their training, but I have faith in you dear Fifth Way, as you are diligent in your pursuit of the truth. Don't give up...

All I have is the Lord in my heart - and that ain't worth a plug nickel on the open market...
~Prozac, Ecstasy and the Wrath of Global Warming (more COINTELPRO to be sure...)

Are you perceiving yourself as one who has completed the training?
Does that mean you stopped searching or you are done learning?
Why then would you assume that I intent to give up? Why would you assume anything with your level of expertise?
And why can't you reformulate in simpler word that which I do not understand?
Why do you not seem fit for the most basic of communication?
Feel free to enlighten us all, as we are all holding our breath now to receive your wisdom.

 

[Guest]

The passion for truth is silenced by answers which have the weight of undisputed authority.

And what does Sr. Tsarion say that is not presented with the weight of undisputed authority? And how would this person or Icke or anyone of these propagandists for Lizard Tales defend their work independently of their projected undisputed authority?

You have actually hit the nail on the head here, because discussion cannot be held with undisputed authority.

However, I think you confuse those who disagree with undisputed authority with the self-proclaimed authority itself.

 

[Laura]

You have actually hit the nail on the head here, because discussion cannot be held with undisputed authority.

However, I think you confuse those who disagree with undisputed authority with the self-proclaimed authority itself.

Isn't "double talk" amazing? And paramoralisms too!

 

[Guest]

Michael Tsarion
neter@jps.net
75 Duane Street #2
Redwood City, CA 94602
US
Phone: (650) 343-7275
Fax: 999 999 9999

Hi there. Not that I've anything like enough information or knowledge of this stuff to know what to make of Tsarion but just something mildly interesting that stood out to me here is Tsarion's Fax no. 999 999 999 9
That's a hell of a lot of inverted 6s!

 

[Guest]

Sorry, where btw did the Force is strong witht his one on my sig come from?

 

[Craig]

Sorry, where btw did the Force is strong witht his one on my sig come from?

Under your username? That's a bit of fun. It changes automatically as your post count gets higher. :)

 

[Ben]

Under your username? That's a bit of fun. It changes automatically as your post count gets higher. :)

You must make it to Jedi Master before the world ends! :O

 

[Guest]

But the force is strong with me!

 

[Laura]

But the force is strong with me!

Which means, of course, that you WILL make it! Don't try, DO!

 

[emgrose]

I stumbled onto this thread from a google search I was doing on Michael Tsarion. I am very disappointed to see Laura and her crew trashing other leaders of the truth movement in an ad hominem way. Tsarion has been criticized for posting material from the the likes of Albert Pike and he responded that while there are many things about his sources with which he disagrees, that doesn't mean they are incapable of saying anything useful. Having done his research he knows where he stands, and will use information no matter from whence it comes.

But changing the wording of members' posts is deplorable. My impression of the Signs-of-the-Times' integrity has been drug down a few notches.

 

[anart]

I stumbled onto this thread from a google search I was doing on Michael Tsarion. I am very disappointed to see Laura and her crew trashing other leaders of the truth movement in an ad hominem way. <snip>
But changing the wording of members' posts is deplorable. My impression of the Signs-of-the-Times' integrity has been drug down a few notches.

Could you give an example of an ad hominem attack on anyone at any time here on these pages? It is very obvious that you have read little to nothing of the topics that have been discussed here at length. This forum, and the associated pages, deal with fact, with evidence, with patterns of behavior and, above all, with the truth.

If this truth bothers you or 'hurts your feelings' in some way, it might be in your own best interests to try and figure out why that is.

On the rare occasions that posts are edited on this forum, it is always done with the best interest of the entire forum in mind, to maintain a comfortable and noise-free environment for all sincere members - and for no other reason.

So, basically, you 'stumbled' into our living room and decided to tell us that we are deplorable without really spending any time or doing any research into exactly why what you find 'deplorable' may have taken place - that speaks volumes, in and of itself, about you.

 

[Mark]

I stumbled onto this thread from a google search I was doing on Michael Tsarion. I am very disappointed to see Laura and her crew trashing other leaders of the truth movement in an ad hominem way. Tsarion has been criticized for posting material from the the likes of Albert Pike and he responded that while there are many things about his sources with which he disagrees, that doesn't mean they are incapable of saying anything useful. Having done his research he knows where he stands, and will use information no matter from whence it comes.

But changing the wording of members' posts is deplorable. My impression of the Signs-of-the-Times' integrity has been drug down a few notches.

I'm just going to ask you an obvious question here based on what you wrote. You say you 'just stumbled onto this thread' and apparently you are recently registered here on the forum, so how is it you that come to think of this place as 'Laura and her crew' ?

 

[Ryan]

Seems like Michael Tsarion is a real "Tsar-baby" for all the new-age groupies.... :P

 

[GRiM]

M Tsarion asked me if I would like to have a dinner with him in the coming month when he will be visiting Sweden for his work.
I said yes to this and I would be really glad if I could I could get some good questions to ask him. I will do my best to read up on all inconsistency's about his work
and ask him about them, but if you could help me with that It would be really nice!

I should add that Tsarion´s video-presentation on Atlantis and the origin of evil and a few TV-documentaries on UFO´s was the first exposure/wake up I got and that lead me
to search for a more consistent source, or a source with less noise. I sent had a few email conversation with Tsarion back and forth with me trying to help him with
stuff to look into. The last email (excluding the last mail about him coming to Sweden was almost 1-1,5 years ago)

 

[anart]

Hmmm - what is your take on him now, (other than your initial take which seems to have had beneficial results)?
Is it an odd occurrence for you to be invited to dinner by him like this? I've really no 'take' on it, other than the fact that if I were in the same situation, I'd sort of be wondering what was going on - I mean, have you met and spent time together before?

Perhaps my life is a little too mundane, but I would consider this to be a bit 'out there' - lol - it will certainly be interesting. I'm sure others might come up with some questions, but I think absorbing as much information on the evaluations of his work that you can should set you up quite well for an interesting conversation. It will be interesting to hear how it goes.