New book: American Heart of Darkness

Good info Elf. In PP it was illustrated how psychopaths will use a variety of people that are normal except they are lacking in character development. They were categorized as chacteropaths. Shorthand for this is that they will do what they are told even when they know it is wrong or immoral. They might feel guilt on some level but are able to rationalize their behavior or find some other way of dealing with it. They are not psychopaths, but they will not hesitate to do their bidding. I noticed that Powell and Rice fit this category to a tee when I went into their backgrounds. I went into much more detail in my book, but just a couple of examples.

Collin Powell played a key role in covering up the Mai Lai massacre in Vietnam. It would take me a while to go into this, but the details of this incident indicate someone with serious integrity and character development problems. This might not be evident to someone who has not been a career military person, but to someone who has Collin Powell is scary. To most civilians war seems like just outright barbarianism, and I will admit that it is nasty, really nasty. There are, however, rules to it, as strange as this seems. Collin Powell was way over the top when he covered up this slaughter of women, children, and old men. Troops from the Americal Division spent hours rounding up these civilians and shooting them. They even took a lunch break. Slaughtering unarmed civilians is about as bad as it gets as far as war crimes.

Powell not only covered it up but he tried to make out like they guys that reported it were lying cowards. One of them reported the massacre after he came back to the states, and Powell said he should have done it when he was in Vietnam, on top of denying that it happened. Well, this is what happens to you when you report stuff like that in a combat zone. You get sent out on the most dangerous missions until you get killed, that's what. Powell knows this, and he knew they whole incident was a howling war crime. He lied his eyes out about this and many other things.

You saw his little UN puppet show when he was again carrying W's water -- with the little glass of simulated anthrax. He knew better. The man was lying into the face of the world. His little show resulted it about a million deaths and many millions of ruined lives, and he says it was the “one blotch” in an otherwise exemplary career. He reminds me of Herman Goering – smile and joke while he is planning on killing by the millions… And I could go on…
 
Elf said:
Laura said:
Please introduce yourself in the newbies forum.

hello Laura and group,
i am from Germany. just discovered Kirkconnell's book on the internet and found him posting on this forum.
am a serial cult recoverer (since age 22) who set out to study the interdynamics of the five characters of the Red Riding Hood fairy tale.
since a month i am compiling the results of my research on mind control here: http://de.spiritualwiki.org/Wiki/Bewusstseinskontrolle

Did you notice that THIS thread is NOT the newbies forum where introductions go?

Did you read the forum guidelines before you clicked "join" button?

Elf said:
Laura said:
25% of prisoners being psychopaths does not equate to "most psychopaths being found in prison."
meaning that most psychopaths are not violent or too sly or protected to be caught or sentenced?

Exactly.

Elf said:
Dr. Hare found that 25% of the men in a treatment program for battering their wives and half of the serial rapists are psychopaths.

Robert Hare: “Violence is not uncommon among offender populations, but psychopaths still manage to stand out. They commit more than twice as many violent and aggressive acts, both in and out of prison, as do other criminals. The recidivism rate of psychopaths is about double that of other offenders. The violent recidivism rate of psychopaths is about triple that of other offenders.”

Laura, kindly explain to me what Hare meant to say on NPR about prison inmates - here:
"Those who had low scores on the PCL-R, about 20 to 25 percent would be re-convicted within four or five years. In the high group, it was about 80 percent."

Exactly what he said: psychopaths have a very high recidivism rate.

Elf said:
what i also learned from Hare is:
Hare has said that if he couldn't study psychopaths in prisons, the Vancouver Stock Exchange would have been his second choice.
1 out of 25 people in America, 1 out 27 people in Europe, and 1 out of 28 in England is a psychopath and most of them do not end up in jail or mental institutions.

And notice that this is an assumption based on little more than air.

Notice that in another study, 25% of a population of college students studying psychology give evidence of psychopathic traits.
 
Elf said:
In 2010 a group of psychologists handed out the Psychopathic Personality Inventory (PPI) questionnaire to the respective biographers of all former U.S. presidents asking them to fill out the form on behalf of their subjects.
Out of 42 John F. Kennedy ranked second highest on "Fearless Dominance" and sixth highest on "Impulsive Antisociality" dimension.
Bill Clinton scored top on "Impulsive Antisociality" and seventh highest on "Fearless Dominance".
more here: _http://de.spiritualwiki.org/Wiki/Narzissmus#toc15

I seriously doubt that John Kennedy was psychopathic. You have to consider WHO is doing the assessing. There are so many psychopathic lies told about Kennedy after his assassination BY his assassins who controlled the information that such an assessment made by a hostile historian without the proper training to understand the difference between leadership qualities vs. pathology, is useless.

One also needs to really understand the control of the sciences by pathology at the foundation to be able to sort through the material. I think you would get an altogether different view of JFK if you read James Douglass' book "JFK and the Unspeakable".

Just because something gets touted on the internet doesn't mean it is true. In fact, wikis are notoriously inaccurate if not downright propagandistic and controlled by "cyberwarriors" paid by the pentagon or other organizations to present their preferred view of reality according to Protocol 12.
 
Laura said:
Did you notice that THIS thread is NOT the newbies forum where introductions go?
i did, Laura.

Laura said:
Did you read the forum guidelines before you clicked "join" button?
i didn't. meanwhile i have read the forum's hints for newbies.

Laura said:
Notice that in another study, 25% of a population of college students studying psychology give evidence of psychopathic traits.
that's an interesting insight. colleges/universities? hold the same amount of psychopaths? 25%. whereas the general population has a spread of 1%.
 
Elf said:
in 2011 British psychologist Kevin Dutton performed an online survey of psychopathy (applying the Levenson Self-Report
Psychopathy Scale) on his website addressing British readers. the results were:
"functional psychopaths" are predominantly found in flwg professions:
  • 1. CEOs (politicians),
    2. TV, radio and movie workers,
    3. lawyers,
    4. salespeople (market and financial traders),
    5. surgeons (not medical doctors),
    6. journalists,
    7. police officers (law enforcement),
    8. clergy.
i guess there were no prisoners partaking in the survey.

Where are politicians on the list?

I would not put much trust into what Kevin Dutton says nor in his understanding of psychopathy. That's the same psychologist who said:

_http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/The-Pros-to-Being-a-Psychopath-176019901.html

One of the reasons why I wrote the book in the first place was to debunk two deep-seated myths that the general public have about psychopaths. Firstly, that they’re either all “mad or bad.” And secondly, that psychopathy is an all-or-nothing thing, that you’re either a psychopath or you’re not.

From the same interview:
You noted in the book that you’re not a psychopath yourself. Despite my profession, I scored pretty low on your survey as well. Can “normals” like you and me learn to develop these psychopathic traits, even if we don’t have them naturally?

Absolutely. Normal people can work out their psychopath muscles. It’s kind of like going to the gym in a way, to develop these attributes. It’s just like training.

Psychopaths don’t think, should I do this or shouldn’t I do this? They just go ahead and do stuff. So next time you find yourself putting off that chore or filing that report or something, unchain your inner psychopath and ask yourself this: “Since when did I need to feel like something in order to do it?”

Another way you can take a leaf out of a psychopath’s book: Psychopaths are very reward-driven. If they see a benefit in something, they zone in on it and they go for it 100 percent. Let’s take an example of someone who is kind of scared of putting in for a raise at work. You might be scared about what the boss might think of you. You might think if you’d don’t get it you’re going to get fired. Forget it. Cut all that stuff off. “Psychopath up,” and overwhelm your negative feelings by concentrating on the benefits of getting it. The bottom line here is, a bit of localized psychopathy is good for all of us.

There are several threads on the Forum concerning Dutton and you can use the search box for that if you wish. There is also this article on SOTT.net:
Martha Stout demolishes Kevin Dutton's book on the 'wisdom' of psychopaths

and SOTT talk Radio show:

Are Psychopaths Cool? Uncovering the predators among us

with a corresponding forum thread:
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,30412
 
Laura said:
I seriously doubt that John Kennedy was psychopathic. You have to consider WHO is doing the assessing.
You're the researcher on JFK, Laura. the scientists of the study were not disclosed by name. is there anywhere an evaluation of the bias of all presidential biographers?
JFK was a notorious womanizer - like a bunch of other US presidents*. he and his brother Robert were "clients" of Marilyn Monroe, the first Presidential model (sex slave).
* _http://de.spiritualwiki.org/Wiki/Ehe#toc35

Laura said:
There are so many psychopathic lies told about Kennedy after his assassination BY his assassins who controlled the information... One also needs to really understand the control of the sciences by pathology at the foundation to be able to sort through the material.
agreed.

Laura said:
wikis are notoriously inaccurate if not downright propagandistic and controlled by "cyberwarriors"
spirtualwiki is a bilingual data collection existing since 2006 which is written by me to 98%. a report on a linked study does not mean that it is "true", it means that there is such a study. when another one of the same kind comes along i am happy to post that too.
i used to contribute to wikipedia -- that is where i experienced fierce territorial wars - in entries that were not condoned by mainstream. the experience was somewhat sickening. that is why spiritualwiki was created, not by me. i was invited to be the first contributor. it turned out that i am the only one who continued the experiment. i have posted links to Political Ponerology. planning to more data on and quotes by AL.

pls enlighten me on what Protocol 12 is?
 
Elf said:
pls enlighten me on what Protocol 12 is?

As with so much else, you can find out by searching the forum. It is one of the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" - which may be better named the "Protocols of the Pathocrats". For while they are a hoax in terms of their claimed origin, they also very well describe the modus operandi of pathocrats in general, past and present. You'll find it quoted here, and a modernized version here.
 
Elf said:
Laura said:
I seriously doubt that John Kennedy was psychopathic. You have to consider WHO is doing the assessing.
You're the researcher on JFK, Laura. the scientists of the study were not disclosed by name. is there anywhere an evaluation of the bias of all presidential biographers?
I'm not sure what you mean by "the scientists of the study were not disclosed by name"?

The study titled "Fearless dominance and the U.S. presidency: implications of psychopathic personality traits for successful and unsuccessful political leadership" was published in September 2012 in Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, and the Abstract can be read on PubMed with the researchers' names listed as: Lilienfeld SO, Waldman ID, Landfield K, Watts AL, Rubenzer S, Faschingbauer TR., Department of Psychology, Emory University, Atlanta, GA, USA. (_http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22823288)

From ScienceDaily's article that introduced the study:

_http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120910162027.htm

The analysis drew upon personality assessments of 42 presidents, up to George W. Bush, compiled by Steven Rubenzer and Thomas Faschingbauer for their book "Personality, Character and Leadership in the White House." More than 100 experts, including biographers, journalists and scholars who are established authorities on one or more U.S. presidents, evaluated their target presidents using standardized psychological measures of personality, intelligence and behavior.

Established by whom? By mainstream science/propaganda outlets? As always, the devil is in details and an answer you get depends on whom you ask your question. Taking into account that our real history is hidden from us and most of biographers and journalists who wrote on high ranked politicians did it with a very specific agenda, you can get any result you want by picking those biographers and 'experts' who can give the desired answer. So, without having access to the full study, with the "experts'" names listed, it's hard to say how reliable/objective the result is.
 
Robert Kirkconnell said:
In PP it was illustrated how psychopaths will use a variety of people that are normal except they are lacking in character development. They were categorized as chacteropaths.
ah, secondary psychopaths. i'd call them accomplices.
the wolf (predator) is a psychopath/pathocrat, whereas Red Riding Hood and the Grandmother (incl. her assets) are devoured by him i.e. "accompliced". he feeds off of them as long as they stay in the belly of the beast i.e. pathologically loyal.

Robert Kirkconnell said:
Collin Powell played a key role in covering up the Mai Lai massacre in Vietnam.
i didn't know that.

Robert Kirkconnell said:
Slaughtering unarmed civilians is about as bad as it gets as far as war crimes.
disgusting.

Robert Kirkconnell said:
One of them reported the massacre after he came back to the states, and Powell said he should have done it when he was in Vietnam, on top of denying that it happened.
M. Scott Peck wrote: "The fact that the American public learned about My Lai at all was due solely to a letter that Ron Ridenhour wrote at the end of March 1969 to several congressmen about the atrocities more than a year after they had occurred. Ridenhour had not himself been a part of Task Force Barker but had later heard of the atrocities in idle conversation from friends who had been at My Lai, and he wrote the letter three months after his return to civilian life."

who was the first to leak pictures of the tortures of Abu Ghraib?

interestingly, M. Scott Peck, called for investigation of the My Lai massacre in 1972 and subsequently turned down, advocated for a science of evil (ponerology) in 1997. We will inevitably be limited to speculation until such time as we have been able to develop, through scientific research, a body of knowledge that constitutes a genuine psychology of evil.
M. Scott Peck (1936-2005) US American psychiatrist, psychotherapist, People of the Lie. The Hope for Healing Human Evil, chapter 6, "MyLai. An Examination of Group Evil", Touchstone Press, 1st edition 1983, 2nd edition, December 1997
_http://de.spiritualwiki.org/Wiki/Konflikt#sWiki.Konflikt_19

Robert, thanks for disclosing on Colin Powell. i am also interested to learn some details of the characteropathy of Condoleeza Rice. my last busted guru was fond of her since she played the piano from childhood on. he considered her as the most evolved politician in GWB's cabinet. he had "calibrated" her.
 
thank you, Psalehesost, i followed your links.

thank you, Possibility of Being, for reading more attentively than i did and procuring the names of the scientists of the study on the ranking of psychopathic behavior of US presidents. given all US presidents since ... are puppets of the secret government they are required act psychopathically for psychopaths.

Possibility of Being said:
taking into account that our real history is hidden from us and most of biographers and journalists who wrote on high ranked politicians did it with a very specific agenda
i know an appointed biographer whose written research result was declared "unauthorized" by the widow of the one who had helped to provide data on his life. during the process of cross-checking the background and narrative of subject of the biography the author went off the party line. he reaped quite some nasty reactions for following his conscience instead of his employer's inconsistent narrative.

Possibility of Being said:
without having access to the full study, with the "experts'" names listed, it's hard to say how reliable/objective the result is.
it's a project for sure. there are people who evaluate controversial studies / authors and publish a counterarticle.
 
Possibility of Being said:
Where are politicians on the list?
right on top #1.

Possibility of Being, i am aware of Kevin Dutton's compromised or obscure position. i felt appalled when reading "wisdom of psychopaths".
thank you for providing the links. i followed them.
 
Re: New book: American Heart of Darkness - Characteropaths

I am going to quote from my book, American Heart of Darkness..., about Powell and Rice. This comes from my sub-chapter, "Two Lackluster Secretaries of State," beginning on page 93. And I certainly did not cut them or anyone else any slack. These clowns ('cept they ain't funny) have destroyed this country and much of the world. They should have been frog-marched out of the White House in shackles along with the rest of the international criminals there...

...Other faces that came to mind were those of Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. Lobaczewski explained that in a pathocracy, the top leaders surround themselves with pathological individuals according to how their psychopathology fits the leader’s needs. In government, however, even pathological leaders understand that to conduct foreign affairs, they need to be represented by people that at least have the appearance of being normal. So for these positions, they tend to appoint relatively bright and competent individuals with the exception that they will do exactly what they are told to do regardless of whether it is right or wrong, good or bad, moral or immoral. Pathological leaders tend to appoint individuals with a warped sense of loyalty that enables them to do whatever the leader chooses them to do without complaint.

Colin Powell has a long history of this that goes back as far as the My Lai Massacre in Vietnam. Major Powell, assigned to the Americal Division, has been implicated in the cover-up of this infamous event. Most Vietnam veterans remember the My Lai Massacre as a horrific event where troops of the American old division went into the village of My Lai, spent four hours rounding up villagers, mostly old men, women, and children. They tied them up, put them in ditches, and shot 347 civilians including babies. They even took a lunch break in the middle of these activities.

This incident was reported by young specialist fourth class named Tom Glen who had served in an Americal Division mortar platoon. In a letter to General Creighton Abrams, the commander of US forces in Vietnam, Glen accused the division of routine brutality against civilians, including the My Lai Massacre. The letter landed on Major Powell’s desk. After his superficial investigation in which Powell did not even interview Glenn, Powell not only admitted to no wrongdoing by the division but stated that Glenn had not been close enough to the front lines to know what he was writing about. Further, he faulted Glenn for not complaining earlier and for failing to be more specific in his letter. Powell’s findings were a collection of distortions and misrepresentations.

It would take an infantryman named Ron Ridenhour to put together the truth about the atrocity at My Lai after completing his tour in Vietnam. Ridenhour interviewed Americal Division members who had participated in the massacre and forwarded a shocking report to the army inspector general. After a thorough investigation, courts-martial were held against the army personnel implicated in the murder of the My Lai civilians, no thanks to Colin Powell.

In his best-selling book, My American Journey, Powell made no mention of his handling of Tom Glenn’s complaint. He did, however, justify killing unarmed civilians. After mentioning the My Lai massacre in his book, Powell put forth a justification of the Americal Division’s brutality.

"I recall a phrase we used in the field, MAM, for military age male. . . . If a Hilo spotted a peasant in black pajamas who looked remotely suspicious, a possible MAM, the pilot would circle and fire in front of him. If he moved, his movement was judged evidence of hostile intent, and the next burst was not in front, but at him. Brutal? Maybe so. But an able battalion commander with whom I had served at Gelnhausen, Lt. Colonel Walter Pritchard, was killed by enemy sniper fire while observing MAMs from a helicopter. And Prichard was only one of many. The kill-or-be-killed nature of combat tends to dull fine perceptions of right and wrong."

We are not talking about “fine perceptions of right and wrong” here. We are talking about war crimes and the senseless slaughter of defenseless civilians. I might add that these civilians were supposedly our allies and for whom we were supposedly fighting so that they could supposedly be free. The fact that a field-grade officer who rose to the position of chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff would hold such opinions has ominous implications.

Many years later, Colin Powell would again show us insight into his true character. During Desert Storm, there were mounting concerns about Iraqi civilian casualties. When asked about the growing number of Iraqi civilians killed by US forces, General Powell stated that “that is a figure I’m not particularly interested in.” This coming from an individual of his rank and position is shocking. Further, as Powell well knew, the senseless slaughter of thousands of defenseless Iraqi civilians was a war crime of major proportions, as was the targeting of the Iraqi infrastructure. The almost total destruction of power production and water treatment facilities not only qualified as war crimes but also genocide...

The War Crimes Act of 1996, a federal statute set forth at Title 18 of the US code § 2441, makes it a federal crime for any US national to violate the Geneva Conventions. This law makes it a crime to not only carry out prohibited acts but also applies to those that order it or even know about it and fail to take steps to stop it. Further, this federal law does not have a statute of limitations, and punishment for violations includes life in prison. If even one prisoner dies due to torture, which has happened a number of times, the punishment can be death.

Of course, Colin Powell knows this, and he would have only approved these outrageous acts if he thought he could get away with it. In fact, George W. Bush freely admitted to the process in which these decisions were made. Probably because he does not possess the critical thinking skills needed to foresee the disastrous ramifications of his decisions. He probably believed Alberto Gonzalez’s memos telling him he is exempt from the law because he is the “unitary executive,” and therefore whatever he does is legal because he is the president. On the other hand, Colin Powell was not nearly as forthcoming. When contacted by ABC News, he stated through an assistant that there were “hundreds of [Principals] meetings” on a wide variety of topics and that he was “not at liberty to discuss private meetings.” Colin Powell knows that his hide could be in jeopardy and just as he did in the My Lai Massacre, he is crafting a web of deceit so that he comes out on top of the dung heap.

Condoleezza Rice chaired the above committee as National Security Advisor and, along with Powell, knows the possible consequences of her participation in this dark undertaking. One notices that she is very adept at dodging tough questions and responsibility. When criticized by California Democratic Senator Barbara Boxer in relation to the war in Iraq: “I personally believe, this is my personal view, that your loyalty to the mission you were given, to sell the war, overwhelmed your respect for the truth. . .” Senator Boxer went on to clarify that who pays the price for the Bush administration’s war adventurism are not the families of Senator Boxer or Condoleezza Rice, but the American military and their families. Rice threw out the red herring that Senator Boxer was making some sort of negative comment about Rice not being married and not having children, which of course had nothing to do with the point Boxer was making.

I have also seen Rice just brush aside pertinent questions about the 9/11 attacks. When asked legitimate questions by the press, she will simply states that “I hadn’t heard that” and just goes on to the next question. She is very good at that. Perhaps good enough that she can be involved in international war crimes and get away with it. It does appear that dodging responsibility is one of the few things that she is good at.

For all of fanfare on her behalf, this author cannot think of anything Condoleezza Rice has been successful at since joining the Bush administration. Apparently, she is a gifted athlete, pianist, and university professor; but her record of giving exactly the wrong advice and doing exactly the wrong thing as National Security Advisor and Secretary of State are unprecedented in modern history, with the exception of Colin Powell. Not only wrong but outright immoral and illegal.

The Iraq war is arguably the most disastrous decision this country has ever made, and Condoleezza Rice was instrumental in promoting this policy. With a doctorate degree in political science, she had to have been aware that Iraq was absolutely no threat to the United States security. This was an illegal war from the very beginning. It amounted to waging aggressive warfare against a virtually defenseless nation. Not only a defenseless nation but a war against the civilian population. Condoleezza Rice used effective metaphors to conjure up images of nuclear mushroom clouds that were very effective in scaring the American people into this disastrous undertaking. She had to know what she was doing, and unlike George Bush, she had to have known the disastrous consequences of this nefarious endeavor. But she did it anyway. She did it because she, along with Colin Powell, is an unprincipled opportunist...

This is why reading Lobaczewski and Laura clarified all of this in my minds eye!!
 
Re: New book: American Heart of Darkness - Censorship

Democracies have the most sophisticated forms of censorship in the world. If you want to control people in a democratic republic you have to fool them. Dictatorships have the dubious luxury of just doing whatever they want to do, for a while anyway. In the U.S. you don't burn books; you just see that they are not published. If they get published you see that they are not printed. If they get printed you see that they are not distributed. If they get distributed you see that they are not put on the shelf. If they get on the shelf all you have to do is buy all of them back...Ad-infinitum. What you don't want to do is burn them, especially in public where someone can take a picture of it. No one misses reading the book they did not know about.

It is the CIA that does the above and much more. They either pay or blackmail, or both, key people in publishing, writers, the Press and other media, on college campuses, in research institutes, etc. to suppress information they do not want the American people to know about. Their tentacles even extend throughout the world. The book, Farwell America, does the best job of explaining how this is done. Interesting that this book was one that was kept out of the US for many years.

All of the above have been involved in destroying the legacy of JFK. I traced the records of his affairs, even with MM, to forgeries and lies that originated with the CIA. Much of what was in the book, The Dark Side of Camelot, consisted of this. No, Seymour Hirsh did not deliberately do this, he was duped.
 
With JFK "courage" became "reckless." My take on him, and it took me a while to figure it out, was that he had the courage to do the right thing even when the consequences were severe, as we saw in Dallas.
 
Re: New book: American Heart of Darkness Law of Armed Conflict


The reason I hold Powell in particular accountable as a war criminal is that he knew full well what he was doing and the ramifications. I again quote from my book on how international law developed and why. As a four star general he set the course of America not abiding by this all important body of law. Many military people were outraged that he would set this course for the country. Add to this the fact that if you torture prisoners, what do you think is going to happen to you if you are captured? Six generals resigned rather than be a part of this, but Powell only looked after "number one" as usual...

...All US military personnel are required, by law, to be trained in the Law of Armed Conflict. They are trained in what it is and how it came about. This body of law directly resulted from the untold millions of civilians senselessly mass murdered during many conflicts and wars, especially WW I and WWII. The wholesale destruction of entire cities and slaughter of millions of civilians shocked the world into realizing that something had to be done. From this incalculable destruction came our present-day tools to manage disagreements and minimize the effects of conflict on defenseless civilians. The civilian world knows these tools roughly as the Geneva conventions, and the military recognizes them as the Law of Armed Conflict. Fundamental among these codes is the law of proportionality. Simply stated, this means that an armed force cannot deliberately target civilians or hit a target that is mostly civilians. The armed force must only select military targets and does everything reasonable to minimize civilian casualties. General Powell could cite chapter and verse about this, but from My Lai to Iraq, with many years in between, it appears that Powell has no moral qualms about killing defenseless civilians and deliberately destroying an entire civilization. He justifies much of this in his book, but I put it in the category of rationalization.

General Powell also participated in some of the most egregious policy decisions made by the George W. Bush administration concerning the use of torture. This was widely reported even in the mainstream media. In an ABC article “Bush Aware of Advisers’ Interrogation Talks,” reporters Greenburg, Rosenberg, and de Vogue clearly identified specific members of the Bush administration, including Colin Powell, that were members of the National Security Council’s Principals Committee. This committee approved very specific “enhanced interrogation methods” that have been widely accepted as torture by international and US law. These methods included water boarding, which has been classified as torture for many years...

This is why I write.
 
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