Organic Portals: Human variation

Alderpax said:
I think your observations are valid, but I question the belief you've formed around them. Consider that instead of literally being the same entity, that they all behaved alike because their essential natures were exactly alike. Psychopaths/sociopaths are "simple creatures" - they care about their own survival and personal agendas, and they view us "normals" as either tools to be used in service of those agendas, or as obstacles to be dealt with. We have no significance to them beyond that. So the fact that the sociopaths in your life all acted like the "same person" makes perfect sense, without requiring them to actually be the same person.
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I agree with Alderpax. Psychopaths are all so similar because they're basically reaction machines. They may look different, but there isn't much variation on the "archetype" they express.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Alderpax said:
I think your observations are valid, but I question the belief you've formed around them. Consider that instead of literally being the same entity, that they all behaved alike because their essential natures were exactly alike. Psychopaths/sociopaths are "simple creatures" - they care about their own survival and personal agendas, and they view us "normals" as either tools to be used in service of those agendas, or as obstacles to be dealt with. We have no significance to them beyond that. So the fact that the sociopaths in your life all acted like the "same person" makes perfect sense, without requiring them to actually be the same person.
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I agree with Alderpax. Psychopaths are all so similar because they're basically reaction machines. They may look different, but there isn't much variation on the "archetype" they express.
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And this very similarity strongly suggests a genetic basis for their behavior.
 
TRANSSOCIOPATHICA said:
Wow this is good stuff.

For my own personal experience with sociopaths - I believe it has been the same demon return in different forms. In my case a parent who abused me, and two relationships with sociopath females. It has got to the stage when I think back on all of them, they are all the same person in my mind regardless of age or gender.

I think this Demon has been attacking me since childhood.
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Thank you for sharing this. This is also the way I have interpreted the problem in the past. There have been many helpful suggestions, explanations and suggested reading already. I would like to add some or just state in another style of writing in case it could also be helpful in your situation.
In my own analyzing and the search for the answer, I have come up with other possibilities to consider.
Psychopaths are expert at finding your triggers and how to activate them. Since the childhood triggers are usually strongest and most debilitating, these are ones they will typically use and of course they will remind one of the initial abuser.
They sometimes use the exact same phrases and tone of voice, etc as your abuser. Possibly, they learned this from you. For example if you ever imitate your abuser in explanation of your past.
Also, OP's/psychopaths supposedly have some mind reading ability/tricks.
There is also the sad but true fact that persons who have not healed from abuse situations actually seek out people very similar to the abuser to get involved with without realizing it consciously. This could very well be the soul's way of forcing one to deal with and resolve those issues.
Another thing to consider is that these people you are referring to are OP's of the same soul type/group who share a soul therefore ,technically, they are the same "person". A different way of saying what Laura said in the last post as in looking at soul as being. Sharing a soul= ONE being.
I know from my own experiences that thinking a "demon" is following you around is very intimidating and that is exactly what psychopaths/OP's strive to do, INTIMIDATE (to make one timid). Therefore it is logical to assume that a psychopath would use methods/tricks to try to give this impression.
Lastly, there is always the possibility that you are correct in your assumptions, in which case there is really very little difference in what reaction you should have or direction to take as opposed to if they are just psychopaths. Find out what you are doing that is attracting them and allowing them to torment you throughout your incarnation and ,perhaps other incarnations?. In other words, what traits are you manifesting that show yourself as a potential target and source of food for them or even possibly, why you are unconsciously choosing these experiences.
 
"Another thing to consider is that these people you are referring to are OP's of the same soul type/group who share a soul therefore ,technically, they are the same "person". A different way of saying what Laura said in the last post as in looking at soul as being. Sharing a soul= ONE being."
Sorry, for some reason I am unable to edit my last post and I should have stated ,"what Alderpax has explained" and Approaching Infinity and Laura agreed with/expounded on.
 
Zombie, how is the breathing programme going for you? Have you been able to maintain it since you discussed it last in August?
 
Galahad said:
Zombie, how is the breathing programme going for you? Have you been able to maintain it since you discussed it last in August?
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Thank you for your interest. I have not been doing it lately to be honest. In fact, I haven't been reading the forum much lately. Is that somehow evident in my writings? I had an inclination last night to "check in" and spent most of the night catching up on posts. I have to admit there is still an aversion/fear of even reading comments about the program. Maybe I should just go ahead and read the posts I have missed as I might get some encouragement. I had no idea it was that long ago since I posted about it. Thank you for reminding me.
 
zombie said:
Sorry, for some reason I am unable to edit my last post...
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As I recently found out, you can only edit after you've written 50 posts (i.e. once your designation changes to "Padawan Learner"). :)
 
Alderpax said:
zombie said:
Sorry, for some reason I am unable to edit my last post...
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As I recently found out, you can only edit after you've written 50 posts (i.e. once your designation changes to "Padawan Learner"). :)
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MMMMMMMMMM good learning tool, I must be very careful to proofread and be clear at my first posting. Thanks for that information, I'm sure it has answered that question for others also.
 
There is also the sad but true fact that persons who have not healed from abuse situations actually seek out people very similar to the abuser to get involved with without realizing it consciously. This could very well be the soul's way of forcing one to deal with and resolve those issues.
Another thing to consider is that these people you are referring to are OP's of the same soul type/group who share a soul therefore ,technically, they are the same "person". A different way of saying what Laura said in the last post as in looking at soul as being. Sharing a soul= ONE being.
I know from my own experiences that thinking a "demon" is following you around is very intimidating and that is exactly what psychopaths/OP's strive to do, INTIMIDATE (to make one timid). Therefore it is logical to assume that a psychopath would use methods/tricks to try to give this impression.
Lastly, there is always the possibility that you are correct in your assumptions, in which case there is really very little difference in what reaction you should have or direction to take as opposed to if they are just psychopaths. Find out what you are doing that is attracting them and allowing them to torment you throughout your incarnation and ,perhaps other incarnations?. In other words, what traits are you manifesting that show yourself as a potential target and source of food for them or even possibly, why you are unconsciously choosing these experiences.
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Hello Zombie,
I have also been encountering psychopaths my whole life. A sexual assault at 25 years of age was the lowest point in my life, somehow I helped myself through this difficult time, at times I was so depressed that I wanted to end my life too many times to count. And it did not end there, I encountered other psychopaths who used verbal abuse at workplaces and sometimes in my personal life as well. When I think about it it does seem like the demon is following me and just recently meeting another extreme psychopath really did the damage to my own emotional being. I just don't trust anyone and don't really want anything to do with anybody. The last individual was my manager who treated me like garbage. The last time he screamed at me I walked away from his cubicle; right after I did that he said in the exact words 'if you ever walk away from me again I will f...ing fire you'. I complained and guess what? I was the one who was fired. So, I do have the courage to speak up and always had the courage to speak against unfairness, but I always find myself in the same situation over and over again. The psychopaths always win.

Zombie, I do feel that I might have some garbage from my past life that I think I should be dealing with. You are right, past lives should be dealt with. I could have been a monster in my past life but how can I find out what those past lives were? I am doing the EE meditaion but for some reason I am not getting anywhere to having my past lives revealed. I do feel though that I might have been a spy in Germany during WW2, but I am not sure if that is correct. In this life it seems that I am constantly being used as a doormat by most men I meet in my life and I am truly getting tired of it. To tell you the truth I don't really care if I die soon, actually it will be a relief. If one is suffering whole life and the same demon does the stalking, what can one do to make it stop when a lot has been done to resolve this issue? What if there is nothing one can do to make it stop? It is frustrating because I have wanted it to stop for a very long time. And I bet that I am not the only one out there.

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Mona said:
If one is suffering whole life and the same demon does the stalking, what can one do to make it stop when a lot has been done to resolve this issue? What if there is nothing one can do to make it stop? It is frustrating because I have wanted it to stop for a very long time. And I bet that I am not the only one out there.
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Hi, Mona,
It sounds like you are going through a very bad time. Please take heart, there IS a way to stop it and I don't think we have to remember our other incarnations to heal from them. I only mentioned it because sometimes people are born with attachments or demons and looking for the onset of the problem in this life would be futile. Reading the material on this forum and through other fourth way material and trying to apply the knowledge has been of great benefit to me. I want to encourage you by telling you I felt like you, not wanting to live, not having hope until very recently. Through constant self observation and gathering in of knowledge, I have finally began to see the light at the end of this dark tunnel. Just don't give up. If I can do it you can too. I have been virtually alone for 4 years sometimes not speaking to another person for weeks at a time and having absolutely no one in my life who has an interest in esoteric studies to socialize with. At times the loneliness and isolation is excruciating. I never gave up! Now I am beginning to get stronger. I wish you could see the look in the eyes of someone who has manipulated me for years and no longer can do so. It might even make you laugh. I want to say diet and exercise is also very important. There are many people who care deeply about you even though you may not know it. I am so sorry you have had such painful experiences.
I, like you, was recently fired from a job for complaining about sexual harassment and about dangerous illegal activity in the hospital where I worked. You are not alone. I don't know what to say to encourage you more but just know I care about you and want to see you succeed! I hope this makes sense and I know there are people on this forum who can give you better advise than I, so, don't give up.
 
I do truly thank you, Zombie, for your encouring words. I wish I could describe my feelings better for your kind words, but sometimes feelings cannot be explained, but only felt.
Thanks again
 
just thought reasons for world be filled with OPs are lack of enough 3D souls o
Because in this case, for the human population to be souled after 3.5 billion available 3d souls, the animal spirits come to help (!)

might i be right?
 
oguz said:
just thought reasons for world be filled with OPs are lack of enough 3D souls o
Because in this case, for the human population to be souled after 3.5 billion available 3d souls, the animal spirits come to help (!)

might i be right?
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I don't think that makes much sense. It would basically indicate that human population is the driving factor - that the point is to always have a certain number of humans on the planet and not only does that not make much sense logically, there is no data, that I'm aware of, to back up such an idea.

Also, OPs aren't inhabited by 'animal spirits'. Perhaps it would help you to re-read the Wave Series to clear a few things up?
 
identify OPs

i guess main property in OPs is the thickness (denseness) of their communication style.
Personally, i find very difficult to talk with OP.
They seem to lack positivity imo.
 
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