Organic Portals: Human variation

[Pecha]

Just like souled beings and 2D critters, OPs may be on a gradient too on their state of graduation. In the OPs sense, they are moving towards an individuated soul perhaps. Within that gradient, what would each end of the spectrum look like? When say a dog graduates 2D, do they become a 3D OP?

 

[Breo]

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aimarok:
I think most of the people feel love as need, souled or otherwise. It's our basic ego thing. For me it takes a conscious effort to separate a need from a more pure feeling and I still can't say that it's love. Going this direction, yes. There is so much to learn yet.

Yes, I second that. To observe the difference of a need and a more pure feeling, I think that's one basic lesson to master for learning to graduate towards STO. We start from confusing what we assume as "love" with self serving.needs. The more we search our intentions behind, the more self serving needs we will find. And I think, might be wrong, positive feelings just are. As you say, so much to learn ahead.

 

[Al3on]

Another thing, I don't know if there is an answer or not, but HOW does the process of becoming souled individuals go? Like from being an OP to an individual soul? Is it a group phenomena, like once they hit critical mass or do they sort of percolate up on a case by case basis?

I guess what Im imagining is all those stories/myths where a character learns empathy, learns to love, or does a selfless act and is rewarded in a spiritual way. Like in Faust, or the Velveteen Rabbit, Beauty and the Beast, etc.

 

[3DStudent]

Is it a group phenomena, like once they hit critical mass or do they sort of percolate up on a case by case basis?

I tend to think it's the latter. If it's a soul pool, then I get the idea that each soul gets "dissolved" back into the pool in 5D. And when one reincarnates, a certain mixture of that pool goes into the next person. Some mixtures will have different traits and level of knowledge. At a certain point that part of the pool can break off and individualize. This of course wouldn't work if the soul fragment gets completely dispersed among the rest of the pool in 5D. Just how I tend to visualize it, FWIW.

 

[irjO]

Another thing, I don't know if there is an answer or not, but HOW does the process of becoming souled individuals go? Like from being an OP to an individual soul? Is it a group phenomena, like once they hit critical mass or do they sort of percolate up on a case by case basis?

I believe this is covered in the Wave Series, but as I understand there are apparently 2 ways, the first one is because the Wave, which happened around 306k YA, and apparently it’s already coming again. The second way, is through the interaction with individualized souled beings through lots of reincarnations, since they imitate and reproduce the emotions by interacting with them/us, so much so that they could be able to cristalice emotional centers at one point, which is the beginning to individualice a proper soul.

Granted, we still don’t know the whole concept of what a soul is, but as I understand, is the link between one consciousness with our higher self’s through all developed energy centers or chakras, whatever the name of that is. OPs doesn’t have all energy centers developed, so they depend of fully souled beings to generate their temporary centers but can’t connect with higher selfs still, which would be the difference.

 

[Wandering Star]

Another thing, I don't know if there is an answer or not, but HOW does the process of becoming souled individuals go? Like from being an OP to an individual soul? Is it a group phenomena, like once they hit critical mass or do they sort of percolate up on a case by case basis?

I guess what Im imagining is all those stories/myths where a character learns empathy, learns to love, or does a selfless act and is rewarded in a spiritual way. Like in Faust, or the Velveteen Rabbit, Beauty and the Beast, etc.

I have the intuition that viruses have something to do with it.

A person with an individualized soul interacts with an organic portal and eventually facilitates a viral process, which modifies something in the body.

Being an approximate copy of the person with an individualized soul with whom it interacts and the physical changes provided by the virus occur, which transfers the necessary information from the person with a soul to the organic portal..., suddenly an individualized soul can connect..

 

[Al3on]

I have the intuition that viruses have something to do with it.

A person with an individualized soul interacts with an organic portal and eventually facilitates a viral process, which modifies something in the body.

Being an approximate copy of the person with an individualized soul with whom it interacts and the physical changes provided by the virus occur, which transfers the necessary information from the person with a soul to the organic portal..., suddenly an individualized soul can connect..

I like this theory a lot. Like a contagious affect, something that connects somewhere unseen. Almost like a tiny seed being planted in the subconscious

 

[Al3on]

I believe this is covered in the Wave Series, but as I understand there are apparently 2 ways, the first one is because the Wave, which happened around 306k YA, and apparently it’s already coming again. The second way, is through the interaction with individualized souled beings through lots of reincarnations, since they imitate and reproduce the emotions by interacting with them/us, so much so that they could be able to cristalice emotional centers at one point, which is the beginning to individualice a proper soul.

Granted, we still don’t know the whole concept of what a soul is, but as I understand, is the link between one consciousness with our higher self’s through all developed energy centers or chakras, whatever the name of that is. OPs doesn’t have all energy centers developed, so they depend of fully souled beings to generate their temporary centers but can’t connect with higher selfs still, which would be the difference.

This too reminds me that crystals grow from a "seed" crystal. And the Wave series does talk about the fact that some souls incarnated here just so their frequency could be beneficial to others. Really cool thought...

 

[Steph_rivers]

This person allegedly cannot enact on inner monologue; however, she can “think” in picture. She describes her thought process as a fast fleeting “movie” she also uses this to reflect on past decisions but it happens so fast that she “gets over it” very quickly. Perhaps there are levels of “memory data access/processing” that organic portals possess. Kind of like AI scanning archive of images to create a match from a request. It kind of reminds me of how a dog learns. They can only reflect on “bad actions” if you catch them in the act at that moment. And they usually forget and can’t recall what they “did wrong” thus confusing them.

 

[irjO]

This too reminds me that crystals grow from a "seed" crystal. And the Wave series does talk about the fact that some souls incarnated here just so their frequency could be beneficial to others. Really cool thought...

I also forgot to quote this part of the session which could give a little more input:

Q: (L) Okay, now we have a couple of questions we want to get to here. You said before that OP's were originally intended as a bridge between second and third densities and that they were used. Is Mouravieff right about the potential for OP's to advance being dependent upon souled beings advancement to STO at the end of this cycle?

A: Not exactly. A soul imprint can grow independent of the cycle. However, it is more likely for a soul to "grow" when interacting with 4th Density STO. STS tends to drain energy for its own use

 

[Steph_rivers]

In addition to the video, what is also interesting is paying attention to comments others who admit not allegedly having IM.

There seems to be levels to this: some cannot even store pictures in their “mind” and instead uses effort to convert raw feelings and verbalize them? Though he admits that it does not require much effort but still is aware of the fact that it is required.

Would this explain why some OPs are more primal/basic acting than others that are more difficult to identify?
It also makes me wonder that if there is a spectrum to this, where does the psychopath fall into this?

 

[Wandering Star]

And they usually forget and can’t recall what they “did wrong” thus confusing them.

This is literal and a very important hint from an OP.

They will all tell you that they are good people and if you ask them if they have ever done something bad to someone, they will say no.

You have gone through hell with them, but they are unable to see it, recognize it or remember any of their actions as a bad action, even though they have been real demons.

And on the other hand, there is another type of person who is continually thinking about the action he has done and regretting having hurt someone.

 

[Ricardo]

This is literal and a very important hint from an OP.

They will all tell you that they are good people and if you ask them if they have ever done something bad to someone, they will say no.

You have gone through hell with them, but they are unable to see it, recognize it or remember any of their actions as a bad action, even though they have been real demons.

And on the other hand, there is another type of person who is continually thinking about the action he has done and regretting having hurt someone.

(IMO) This is a good observation , and also why the tradition emphasizes the , hum , " education" of the emotional center, " the blind leading the blind " so they have been called , and on words , "people of the lie " , which is how the C's described their " lesser cousins " the psychopaths , as broken / malfunctioning machines.

 

[Andrew]

Please forgive me if this question has been asked and answered.

If one with/has a personality disorder, narcissism, bi polar… and decades and decades go by without any change or “improvement” or there is regression/stagnation is that an intimation that being is an organic portal or “soul group” not an “individual soul”?

I only ask as I know people for 30+ years and the same program runs it either gets”worse” remains the same or person gets better at “hiding” the personality disorder only to come out in full force at times behind closed doors.

I only ask because I believe souls learn, gain wisdom, tact and evolve within one cycle here. The only learning from the people that I am asking about is to better hide their sinister motives, personality gets more negative/frequency wise or there is decades of stagnation.

'One Cycle' compared to 'One lifetime' let alone 30+ years, is quite a difference; assuming you're referring to a Cycle as the 350,000 year Cycle? I recall from one of the Reincarnation books I read that one particular Soul had spent 50+ lifetimes struggling with the Lessons of Envy and failed each time. So the learning would seem to be gradual and dependent on the Souls willingness/stubbornness to learn whatever particular lesson(s) relevant to its Learning Profile. So I don't necessarily think if someone isn't showing signs of improvement (even after decades) implies they're an OP.

 

[Andrew]

I dont think that portals can actually learn anything which they would have benefit of in the world how it is ours today.

I would say that portal is your everyday, law abiding decent citizen. Person of the system. And he/she truly believes in that system. Person which believes in other people, "we are all the same, in the same pot", and similar. But no internal struggle.

Souled individual on the other hand have that inner struggle. Always questioning and doubting. Him/herself before all, but also the others. Thinking and feeling about others "did I do that right, did I hurt him/her, I hope that I helped" directing actions in life always with that context in mind. That way of thinking and living could be also subconscious, not so clear for all people. I can guess that depends on person's level of consciousness.

I think you're probably right on the money here for the most part. However, how might the learning for an OP change toward the end of a Grand Cycle as events start to heat up?

The C's have recently said that more suffering/more awakening needs to happen; might this not be a catalyst (at least for some OPs on the verge of graduation) to start developing that 'internal struggle', to start 'questioning' the reality around them?

For example, I keep seeing on Twitter, people who are now questioning their Democratic/Leftist beliefs after the recent assassination attempt on Trump, and even agreeing with things Trump is saying who never thought that would be possible. That would seem to imply some degree of Internal Struggle.