Q source / Qanon

Jones

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Hi @seeker of light, not sure if you've seen it yet, there's quite a long thread on Q here.

The two video's that you have linked are quite long, could you give an overview of the content?

Finally, I notice that even though you've been a member here for a few years, we haven't seen an introduction post from you in the Newbies forum yet. Sometimes when things are a bit hectic, inviting new members to make an introduction post can be missed. In the Newbies forum you can make an introduction post and tell us a bit about yourself and how you found your way here. You can have a look there and see how others have done it.
 

Skyfarmr

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Stealing a few moments from our busy season to post an experience I've had during my attempts to educate people about some truths and falsehoods regarding coronavirus.

Most of the information was shared from the CDC's website and some well written and researched SOTT articles. One friend I shared information with, who happens to be a Progressive Dem, quickly asked me " You haven't been reading Qanon have you?" I looked at her puzzled, not knowing really what Qanon was. She explained. I denied it and explained to her where I had gotten my information, and further described the "garbage in-garbage out" kind of statistics based on inaccurate testing, etc., etc. So after much discussion, she sort of backed off the Qanon accusation as my source.

Fast forward a couple weeks, and I'm texting my sister-in-law, a loyal Democrat, and sent her a link from an SOTT article with the RFK,Jr video, and she replied to me "C______, I'm not Qanon, I'm a loyal Democrat and voting for Biden/Harris." Say whaaaat?:huh: So now that I've been accused twice of getting my CV19 "disinformation" from Qanon, I did a bit of looking into it. I replied to both of them that if they(Qanon) are following the same bread crumbs to come to the same conclusion that the corona-virus circus is a lot of hype based on maligned data and inaccurate testing methods resulting in a mangled interpretation/presentation of that data, they should still consider it seriously, or at the very least, worthy of suspicion.

After a few days of pondering these unforeseen reactions, and reading some SOTT articles on Qanon, I became very suspicious that Qanon may be inadvertently being used for COINTELPRO and squelching the truth, or at least tarnishing it for the lefties consumption by maligning the message of the truth about CV19 BECAUSE it's being posted by Qanon, as well. I even asked a few Trump-aligned friends if they were familiar with Qanon, and they would looked puzzled, saying they heard mention of them, but didn't know that much about them. Hmph!

I realize this isn't a huge poll on the subject, but found it very curious that my Liberal friends seemed to know more about Qanon than Conservative friends and acquaintances. Makes me think those who are exposing the falsehoods of CV19 reporting are being labeled conspiracy theorists BECAUSE Qanon happens to be sharing information that anyone can find for themselves and analyze without ever going on Qanon's site, as I did.

Anyone else have similar observations or experiences?
 

PopHistorian

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I realize this isn't a huge poll on the subject, but found it very curious that my Liberal friends seemed to know more about Qanon than Conservative friends and acquaintances. Makes me think those who are exposing the falsehoods of CV19 reporting are being labeled conspiracy theorists BECAUSE Qanon happens to be sharing information that anyone can find for themselves and analyze without ever going on Qanon's site, as I did.

Anyone else have similar observations or experiences?
I would not say I'm a Qanon expert, but I have observed that most Leftists seem to know about Qanon, with their source being (ultimately, not necessarily directly) any of the hundreds/thousands of mainstream media articles that portray it negatively as a right-wing conspiracy theory and continue to allege that Qanon followers are associated with every manner of evil. I assume that Qanon has worked its way into the Leftist narrative/ideology/programming as simply a buzzword, trigger, or something like that. My guess is that most don't have any specific knowledge or have even read one of these MSM pieces. I'm sure some have never read an article (good or bad) about Trump, yet Orange Man Bad is still among their core beliefs.
 
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PopHistorian

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For those digging in the Q rabbit hole, I discovered that the hottest decoders/possible insiders hailed for having the most specific details, sources, and accuracy now seem to be:

Charlie Freak: FreakSense TV
Santa Surfing: Santa Surfing Beach Broadcast
Jennifer Mac: JENNIFER MAC
KelliAnnHubNews: KelliAnnHubNews

Curious about what anyone might think of these YTube channels.

Other than a brief thread on Charlie Freak in this forum, I don't see any mentions of these people in searches of the whole forum.
 

axj

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Question: does anyone know of a similar person, with allegedly direct connections to US military sources, spilling info online? It would be nice to triangulate this with other reports.

@PopHistorian, I just remembered the other former CIA guy who talks openly about all these topics: Robert David Steele.

He was also recently interviewed by this Charlie Freak:

 
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PopHistorian

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I just remembered the other former CIA guy who talks openly about all these topics: Robert David Steele.
What bothers me about Steele is that it's all about him. He thinks he should be famous and have direct contact with every big shot to solve the world's problems, and he admits he was never a particularly senior operative. One idea of his that I thought was interesting: he said that no one has to take vengeance on the elites, the bankers, etc. If somehow they were just told to stop, keep the money, and go away, and somehow enforce that, everything would recover nicely. I'm concerned about so many people seeming to want vengeance, violent retribution, which is what BLM and Antifa seem to be about.

I had an opportunity last week to listen to those four people I linked in #635 above and I would describe them as very fringe. All about numerology, gematria, symbology, JKF Jr is alive - and all but Jennifer Mac seem heavy on New Age spirituality with Christian overlays. And at least Charlie and Santa believe that Trump and/or Q is communicating back to them. They all endorse Juan O Savin, who is a mysterious figure who calls into YouTube talk shows and podcasts and simply states things as fact without giving much or any evidence, and has a tendency to ramble at length without discernible aim.

Charlie Freak has done a lot of actual research, but a huge amount of what he states with certainty, "he just knows." Constant numerology, gematria, symbolism, etymology and hidden meanings. much of which he says he gets from the Akashic Record via meditation. He says Tesla was all about magnetism (the secret of energy) not electricity or gravity, etc., because it never dissipates. He believes JKR Jr, Princess Diana, and Michael Jackson are alive. Believes there have been scores of arrests of high-profile, known persons already, just not reported. He believes Tom Hanks is dead and Rita Wilson is imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay. Believes in veganism. Believes Earth is flat and center of the universe. Believes the channelers who say they're speaking to different alien races are actually speaking to various levels of other consciousness. Believes civilization itself evolved specifically to enable elites to eat children. Believes vote for Biden is voting for evil. Believes Trump's vaccine will neutralize heavy metals and other poisons in the body.

I didn't find any of them really helpful to understanding. They are not skeptical analysts, by any stretch. Fringe, but not in a compelling way. Just my opinion.
 

seeker of light

The Force is Strong With This One
Hi @seeker of light, not sure if you've seen it yet, there's quite a long thread on Q here.

The two video's that you have linked are quite long, could you give an overview of the content?

Finally, I notice that even though you've been a member here for a few years, we haven't seen an introduction post from you in the Newbies forum yet. Sometimes when things are a bit hectic, inviting new members to make an introduction post can be missed. In the Newbies forum you can make an introduction post and tell us a bit about yourself and how you found your way here. You can have a look there and see how others have done it.
Dear Jones, Sorry for late reply, from what i can remember, basically Dr Shiva with help from software professionals can clearly show that electronic voting used in USA elections have databases that can change a single(1) vote into decimal vote (1.5 say). The implications for this are not good for fair elections.
 

Nienna

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In the Newbies forum you can make an introduction post and tell us a bit about yourself and how you found your way here. You can have a look there and see how others have done it.
I second what Jones has asked you to do, seeker of light. It's customary for new members to introduce themselves so that we can get to know you a little better. And, as Jones has said, if you're unsure of what to post, just look at how others have done it. :-)
 

aragorn

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Dear Jones, Sorry for late reply, from what i can remember, basically Dr Shiva with help from software professionals can clearly show that electronic voting used in USA elections have databases that can change a single(1) vote into decimal vote (1.5 say). The implications for this are not good for fair elections.
Personally, I don't trust "Dr." Shiva one bit. During the spring he was trying to 'divide and conquer' the alternative health movement by discrediting e.g. Robert Kennedy Jr. and Del Bigtree. The whole "inventor of e-mail" thing appears also to be bogus. Kennedy Jr. finally wrote a statement where he exposed Shiva's shady connections to various companies amongst other things. I can't find that response right now, but I'll link to a post of mine a while ago, where Shiva shows his dark side:

 

Basque Seeker

The Force is Strong With This One
My two cents wrt Qanon.

In the beginning, it looked bogus to me. Then by going deeper into the data it started to make sense to me because all of the details and commonalities with what I thought about the 'evil guys' agenda, pizzagate, and so on. I saw later that it was often labelling the things in terms of 'good' vs 'evil', or 'patriots' vs 'evil ones', being the evil ones primarily democrats. But then I found they were praising as one of 'the good ones', the ones on the side of 'the light', Ronald Reagan. And that was a hard stop for me.

I just can't believe that after what Contras did in Latin America (pure and plain EVIL) under his approval, even declaring openly being super proud of what they did!, supporting coups, torture, killings, etc., still this movement is calling him part of the 'good ones' and on 'the side of light'.

That was for me the point that made me feel afterwards that my original thought about this whole thing was right.
 
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