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Here's the conference (not sure if it's complete) on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmpaM0PqyI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmpaM0PqyI
Perceval said:Former British MOD (Ministry of Defence) employee and long-time UFO author Nick Pope is my "friend" on Facebook. The other day he posted a link to an article on the MOD web site:
Pride of the Armed Forces recognised for outstanding gallantry
24 Sep 10
A soldier who selflessly risked his life by throwing back an enemy grenade to save his colleagues, and a High Threat IEDD (improvised explosive device disposal) Operator who neutralised 42 devices in 72 hours, are among a number of brave Service personnel to be recognised for gallantry in the latest Operational Honours and Awards List.
I'm not sure what to think. Maybe it's a common factor among UFO researchers that they're not really in it for the Truth of anything else other than "disclosure". Or maybe, given Nick Pope's background, he is a conscious agent of the MOD? Certainly stranger things have happened.
Then again, maybe they don't want to lose their food source? And with psychopaths in power, they've gotta be careful!
Every few human lifetimes, there is a bombardment event like that which occurred in Siberia in 1908, wiping out most life over an area of about 10,000 square miles... Quantitatively, the time-averaged loss-of-life is comparable to that due to large floods, earthquakes and aeroplane crashes... The advent during the last half-century of reasonably large-scale rocket propulsion has given us the technological means necessary to avert such impacts.
Due to a lack of awareness and emphasis, the world is not socially, economically, or politically prepared to deal with the vulnerability of impacts and their potential consequences. Further, in terms of existing capabilities, there is currently a lack of adequate means of detection, command, control, communications, computers, and intelligence (C41), and mitigation...
In terms of courses of action in the event of a likely impact of an ECO, {earth crossing object}, other than a nuclear option, no defensive capability exists today. However, new technologies may yield safer and more cost-effective solutions by 2025. These authors contend that the stakes are simply too high not to pursue direct and viable solutions to the ECO problem. Indeed, the survival of humanity is at stake.
Had Earth moved for another three hours or so before the impact occurred, the target would not have been a barely populated corner of Siberia, but Moscow itself. Ten million people would have died. {interview conducted by Austen Atkinson, 1998}
It's almost like doing an experiment - one you could never do. One you would never want to do. {Sandia National Laboratory, PR: 5 May 1998}
Laura said:The conclusions were horrifying.
Had Earth moved for another three hours or so before the impact occurred, the target would not have been a barely populated corner of Siberia, but Moscow itself. Ten million people would have died. {interview conducted by Austen Atkinson, 1998}
Dear Sasha & Tatiana:
Well, 100 years have now passed and I finally feel comfortable in letting you know that I really appreciate the sacrifice you made (or your family that might have been made) when I slowed the Earth’s rotation momentarily back in late June 1908. That’s not something I normally do(!) but in that case I really felt I had to intervene.
You see, what’s now referred to as the Tunguska impactor, a smallish asteroid about 40 meters in diameter, was headed for an impact with Earth, directly over Moscow. It would have been a disaster of truly huge proportions, and I just couldn’t stomach that given what Russia was going through at the time. So I slowed the Earth down for a bit… just a few minutes per day for a few weeks. As a result the asteroid hit way out in the middle of Siberia instead of directly over Moscow.
Now there are surely millions of present day Muscovites who owe their lives to the sacrifice that your great-grandfather made in taking the hit for them. In all likelihood he and your great-grandmother would have had many more children than just your grandmother, but there he was in the most desolate section of Siberia, tending his reindeer herd, far, far from everyone else. I’m truly sorry that you don’t have many more cousins to celebrate the holidays with, but in the larger scheme of things it seemed to be the right thing to do at the time.
But I’m really tired of this kind of intervention; it just takes too much out of old fate to pull of this kind of thing in the future. Since so much has happened in the past 100 years in terms of technology development, you and your fellows around the planet are really able to handle this kind of thing yourselves. I mean, after all, your telescopes are now finding the larger asteroids that make close passes by Earth, and soon they’ll be finding the smaller ones like the Tunguska impactor. At least they could be doing that.
And as you know shoving an asteroid slightly off its course is far simpler (and cheaper) than going out to take pictures of yet another of Saturn’s moons!
So I’m pretty content to let the celestial clockwork and human ingenuity run their course undisturbed by pro-active fate. From my perspective it seems that with all the tools required, both an early warning capability and the ability to intervene to slightly alter an asteroid’s orbit, humanity ought to be able to get the job done without me mucking about with space-time.
So good luck. All it really takes is for you to convince your fellow human beings that they really are all related and really can, by coming to a simple agreement to act in concert, protect both themselves and future human (and fellow creatures’) generations by sharing the risk of slightly shrinking or enlarging any threatening asteroid’s orbit so that it misses the Earth. Really, you can do this, provided you can all get together. Yes, I know, that’s a big challenge. But let me tell you, it’s a far smaller feat for you to slightly alter the shape of the local universe than it is for me to slow down the rotation of the Earth!
Good luck.
Fate
NEOs are part of nature. A NEO impact is a natural hazard in much the same way as are hurricanes, tsunamis, floods, etc. NEO impacts are deceptively infrequent, yet devastating at potentially unimaginable levels. NEOs are however not our enemies. We do not need to “defend” against NEOs, we need to protect ourselves from their occasional impact, as we do with other natural hazards. Unlike other natural hazards, however, NEO impacts can be predicted well ahead of time and actually prevented from occurring. If we live up to our responsibility, if we wisely use our amazing technology, and if we are mature enough, as a nation and as a community of nations, there may never again be a substantially damaging asteroid impact on the Earth. We have the ability to make ourselves safe from cosmic extinction. If we cannot manage to meet this challenge, we will, in my opinion, have failed to meet our evolutionary responsibility.
Laura said:What is interesting is how our "fearless leaders" are looking at this problem. Their question is: "Is Earth and its human population worth saving?"
My guess is that they are trying to get everything locked down so that they can eliminate a lot of people with plausible excuses, and get away with it; that is, do it without risking the entire population turning against the PTB itself. And so, they play war games, they create terrorism, they play out farces of being at odds with one another when it is really the average human being in all countries who is the enemy of the leaders, all of whom - even if they play at being opposed to one another - are in the same club.
While the detection technology has sped ahead, international mechanisms for dealing with an asteroid threat are still stuck in first gear.
"At this point, we don't even know enough to alert the right global authorities if we detected one," says Harvey, program manager of the NEOSSat office.
Nor would those in authority have much of a handle on what to do.
"We don't know what size asteroid would take us across the survival threshold by killing most of the standing vegetation so there would be mass starvation," says Hildebrand.
As well, it's not clear that any warning would come in enough time to launch a space mission to alter the asteroid's orbit, or how that might be accomplished.
"If we haven't got the time or the means then we will have to make hard choices about whose lives you are going to try to save," says Hildebrand, a hint of emotion creeping into his normally restrained tones.
L said:New article by Rich here:
What Really Happened at Malmstrom AFB in 1967?
anart said:Considering that the 'UFOs shut down nuclear missiles' story is a cornerstone to this latest 'disclosure' stage show, it follows logically that Dolan would defend the story as being true, despite ripples on the pond that it might have been faked. Just my two cents, of course. Just seems like the disclosure guys are putting a lot of weight behind that event, so it needed some 'shoring up' to keep things moving.
Laura said:This is the problem I kept coming up against in researching UFOs and alien stuff. Lies and confusion and more lies and confusion. I was already familiar with this routine from paranormal research. Then, you find the same thing with alternative history, and that whole Rennes-le-Chateau thing.
What I finally realized was that the only way to deal with that stuff was to think about it in terms of hyperdimensional manipulation.
Yeah, I know, that is not a very satisfactory thing to do when one is just looking for a hard fact, darn it. But there it is.
And if you have hyperdimensional manipulation, then you have to figure that you are dealing with something that is way out of your league with objectives and modes of function you simply can't understand on your own.
The main objective you can discern, after a long time, is that the lies and confusion are deliberate - to conceal. And something like that which wants to be concealed, well, you can bet you ain't big enough to expose it if it doesn't want to be exposed.
dannybananny said:I was wondering after reading this article about Tunguska event, how it could hit Moscow so it fell on my mind that if it actually did hit in that time some populated city people would start to look more seriously in that, especially now, so I was wondering that maybe it was somehow diverted because humans are food to 4D STS and it wasn't the right time yet, and it wouldn't have good consequences for PTB in the future. It doesn't have to be so but it's just a thought.
anart said:Considering that the 'UFOs shut down nuclear missiles' story is a cornerstone to this latest 'disclosure' stage show, it follows logically that Dolan would defend the story as being true, despite ripples on the pond that it might have been faked. Just my two cents, of course. Just seems like the disclosure guys are putting a lot of weight behind that event, so it needed some 'shoring up' to keep things moving.
dannybananny said:I was wondering after reading this article about Tunguska event, how it could hit Moscow so it fell on my mind that if it actually did hit in that time some populated city people would start to look more seriously in that, especially now, so I was wondering that maybe it was somehow diverted because humans are food to 4D STS and it wasn't the right time yet, and it wouldn't have good consequences for PTB in the future. It doesn't have to be so but it's just a thought.