Russian Passenger Plane Crashes Over Egypt

[Mr.Cyan]

If this is accurate, it would suggest some kind of "air burst" or "vortex" similar to the explanation given for the crash of the Air Asia flight late last year.

Thanks Perceval for the info - my initial impression was that this was a message from the Empire, and the controls could been have hijacked similar to Germanwings crash - but now from the information so far, and from what you have posted I think too that's its beginning to look like a vortex or wind burst that caused the sudden changes in altitude, and caused the crash. We can know better once the Russians conduct their investigations, as im sure they will be transparent with the investigation.

I'm just wondering why it had to happen to a Russian plane in Egypt especially after the recent events in Syria.

I wonder if these vortexes are really "natural" - or could 4D STS as well cause this deliberately ? I recall C's mentioned that battles in 4D can manifest as weather phenomena in 3D. Messages now directly from 4D STS perhaps, as it was mentioned by the C's in the their last transcipt that the PTB were really caught off-guard with Putin's actions....not sure, and speculating here.

Sincere condolences as well to the families & friends of the victims.

 

[Siberia]

If this is accurate, it would suggest some kind of "air burst" or "vortex" similar to the explanation given for the crash of the Air Asia flight late last year.

Just read the following article in Russian, and it says that one of the versions that experts are looking into is, that the plane possibly went into a spin/spiral dive, which explains the drastic descent.

Indeed, especially considering more fireballs (which you mentioned earlier today) witnessed over Poland/Kaliningrad on October 31 (in addition to the ones over Belarus/Ukraine on October 30), looks like the space weather was quite volatile at that time possibly creating all sorts of unusual phenomena.

And the fact that the plane allegedly disintegrated midair could also be indicative of some strong turbulence.

And there was also this news about the body of a 3-year-old girl recovered 8 kilometers away from the crash site. Why so far away?

 

[Joe]

And there was also this news about the body of a 3-year-old girl recovered 8 kilometers away from the crash site. Why so far away?

I suppose it's possible if a small child falls from a significant height, like maybe 20,000ft, they could land quite a distance away from the original point of falling. Not sure what the maximum likely distance is though, wind strength would obviously be the main factor.

 

[Keit]

Satellite image of the location of the crash. Red - is where the plane fell, yellow - is where all the rescue forces are located, blue - is where all the rest of the pieces fell.

 

[Eboard10]

Indeed, especially considering more fireballs (which you mentioned earlier today) witnessed over Poland/Kaliningrad on October 31 (in addition to the ones over Belarus/Ukraine on October 30), looks like the space weather was quite volatile at that time possibly creating all sorts of unusual phenomena.

And the fact that the plane allegedly disintegrated midair could also be indicative of some strong turbulence.

And there was also this news about the body of a 3-year-old girl recovered 8 kilometers away from the crash site. Why so far away?

That, and the claim by one officer that many bodies were missing limbs is in part reminiscent of the findings from the AF 447 flight over the Atlantic ocean:


What are they hiding? - Flight 447 and Tunguska Type Events

• No water in the lungs suggests the passengers died either on impact of the plane with the water or before it hit the water.
• No burn marks points to no bomb, no "terrorism".
• Multiple fractures suggests passengers' bodies were subjected to severe blunt force trauma not consistent with then being strapped into their seats and the plane hitting the water intact. Rather, it is consistent with passengers bodies hitting the water at high speed.
• Wide dispersal of bodies is consistent with them falling through the air from high altitude.
• Minimal clothing on most bodies is inconclusive, but possibly consistent with bodies falling from high altitude.

 

[Joe]

What are they hiding? - Flight 447 and Tunguska Type Events

• No water in the lungs suggests the passengers died either on impact of the plane with the water or before it hit the water.
• No burn marks points to no bomb, no "terrorism".
• Multiple fractures suggests passengers' bodies were subjected to severe blunt force trauma not consistent with then being strapped into their seats and the plane hitting the water intact. Rather, it is consistent with passengers bodies hitting the water at high speed.
• Wide dispersal of bodies is consistent with them falling through the air from high altitude.
• Minimal clothing on most bodies is inconclusive, but possibly consistent with bodies falling from high altitude.

Indeed, and a meteor detonation is the 3rd possible scenario. The fact that one flew by the earth about 8hrs before the Russian plane came down is an interesting correlation.

 

[Siberia]

Crashed in the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt the Russian Airbus A321 could catch fire in the air according to TASS with reference to sources in the aviation and transport infrastructure in Russia.

“Thermal and physical destruction of the wing element found by Russian experts in the area of ​​the collapse of the liner suggest that the plane could catch fire in the air” – told the agency.

 

[Aeneas]

What are they hiding? - Flight 447 and Tunguska Type Events

• No water in the lungs suggests the passengers died either on impact of the plane with the water or before it hit the water.
• No burn marks points to no bomb, no "terrorism".
• Multiple fractures suggests passengers' bodies were subjected to severe blunt force trauma not consistent with then being strapped into their seats and the plane hitting the water intact. Rather, it is consistent with passengers bodies hitting the water at high speed.
• Wide dispersal of bodies is consistent with them falling through the air from high altitude.
• Minimal clothing on most bodies is inconclusive, but possibly consistent with bodies falling from high altitude.

Indeed, and a meteor detonation is the 3rd possible scenario. The fact that one flew by the earth about 8hrs before the Russian plane came down is an interesting correlation.

There was also the asteroid 2015TB145 with a diameter of 450 meters, that passed by only 1,3 Lunar distance away on the 31st of October. That could also have had some electrical effects.

 

[Eboard10]

Crashed in the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt the Russian Airbus A321 could catch fire in the air according to TASS with reference to sources in the aviation and transport infrastructure in Russia.

“Thermal and physical destruction of the wing element found by Russian experts in the area of ​​the collapse of the liner suggest that the plane could catch fire in the air” – told the agency.

Are they saying that they found evidence from the remains that the aircraft caught fire or are they implying that the plane could potentially have caught fire due to the conditions of the wing? Couldn't understand from the quote.

 

[angelburst29]

Short update and RT video.

Russian A321 Fell ‘Almost Vertically’
http://investmentwatchblog.com/russian-a321-fell-almost-vertically/

According to Egypt’s security forces a technical fault was to blame for the crash of flight 7K9268 in Sinai. The sources say the aircraft took almost a vertical trajectory as it plummeted down. Large parts of the fuselage burned in the process.

 

[Siberia]

Crashed in the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt the Russian Airbus A321 could catch fire in the air according to TASS with reference to sources in the aviation and transport infrastructure in Russia.

“Thermal and physical destruction of the wing element found by Russian experts in the area of ​​the collapse of the liner suggest that the plane could catch fire in the air” – told the agency.

Are they saying that they found evidence from the remains that the aircraft caught fire or are they implying that the plane could potentially have caught fire due to the conditions of the wing? Couldn't understand from the quote.

Russian sources report it as follows (rough translation):

A number of sources familiar with the situation claim that Russian Airbus A321 could catch fire before touching the ground, said TASS.

According to them, the wing has signs of thermal damage.

It is possible that after the plane disintegrated at high altitude and started falling, the fuel in the wing could interact with the air and catch fire. Modern aircraft fuel system is designed to prevent air penetration into kerosene tanks located in both right and left wings of the plane.

There is no official confirmation of this information from the authorities as of yet.

 

[sitting]

Attitude is the position of the plane relative to the ground, such as nose up or down, tilt left or right. It is measured with a gyroscope.

Got it. Thank you.

 

[Ca.]

If this is accurate, it would suggest some kind of "air burst" or "vortex" similar to the explanation given for the crash of the Air Asia flight late last year.

Just read the following article in Russian, and it says that one of the versions that experts are looking into is, that the plane possibly went into a spin/spiral dive, which explains the drastic descent.

Indeed, especially considering more fireballs (which you mentioned earlier today) witnessed over Poland/Kaliningrad on October 31 (in addition to the ones over Belarus/Ukraine on October 30), looks like the space weather was quite volatile at that time possibly creating all sorts of unusual phenomena.

And the fact that the plane allegedly disintegrated midair could also be indicative of some strong turbulence.

And there was also this news about the body of a 3-year-old girl recovered 8 kilometers away from the crash site. Why so far away?

This seems like a plausible explanation..........

Debris of the A321 Russian Airliner
November 1, 2015

Meteor Gdańsk 31-10-2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aQ41XdsJRo

Flight 447 (AF447/AFR447)
1 June 2009,

BREAKING: Possible 'Meteor Shower' Grounds Firefighting Planes in Colorado - June 20, 2012
https://youtu.be/IEMWvp1MXgE

UPS plane crash
17 August 2013

2015 Perseid Meteor Shower, Yosemite National Park. 4K Published on Aug 23, 2015
https://youtu.be/1SRaRCq0dlA

Questionable
CAL FIRE Tanker 81 crash press conference
Published on Oct 10, 2014
https://youtu.be/vYN4Mj-YOJc

Draconid Meteor Shower Published on Oct 7, 2013
https://youtu.be/xaKqL35h_ns

 

[angelburst29]

Short update and RT video.

Russian A321 Fell ‘Almost Vertically’
http://investmentwatchblog.com/russian-a321-fell-almost-vertically/

According to Egypt’s security forces a technical fault was to blame for the crash of flight 7K9268 in Sinai. The sources say the aircraft took almost a vertical trajectory as it plummeted down. Large parts of the fuselage burned in the process.

I'm noticing something in the reporting. I don't know how to really describe it, other than, it seems Egypt's spoke persons or security personel" seem to be "jumping the gun" in reporting information, only to have the Russian side retract it? The statement above about the plane falling almost vertically - might not be the case? I don't see any verification from the Russian side?

Just like this example from a RT report, "The head of the Russian Transport Ministry said that the flight recorders from the crashed plane have not yet been opened and decoded, counter to the claims of the Egyptian side."

I think, I'll take the information supplied by the Egyptian side, with a grain of salt, until I see something verified by the Russian Transport Ministry or authorized spoke person?

 

[mkrnhr]

This tragedy is not clear. If it were a terrorist attack (ISIS/US/Israel or other), then the timing and target can be understood. If it were a "natural" event of meteoric or other nature, then the fact that it is a Russian civilian plane, one month after the beginning of Russian intervention in Syria is confusing. Don't know what the odds are but it could be a 4DSTS kind of a tentrum of some sort. OSIT