Session 10 December 2022

@Torri

May I offer a suggestion? It is something I have put into practice since I joined the forum. And it's not just reading Laura's work, or research.

I know that at the beginning when one is new here, or in any other forum it can happen that the posture is defensive. I would say that it is even natural. Why? Well one is afraid of the unknown. It is as simple as that. And that fear is usually the one that pushes the buttons of the programs that have been installed in us since birth.

What am I getting at? That what helps to be able to participate in the forum, before giving an opinion, or offering an idea, knowing that you can say a tremendous nonsense (and sometimes it even happens to me that some of my assumptions play a trick on me) the best, is simply to observe the exchange from the outside, to understand the group, their motivations. Observe in silence. I arrived here in 2014 and it's not that I immediately started writing. The difference I think is that I came in knowing beforehand...that I didn't know anything. It was only after some time and a lot of prudence that I was encouraged to be more participative.

By a bit of intuition deep down I knew that the work here in the forum, the group, the network, has the potential for a paradigm shift. When you understand that with a little more experience you see that you have to be very careful with what you say, and the emotion you put into it. It can happen that something you read, or a response to a comment is not to your liking. When it is so, you check if you can argue it with logic and data. And if not, then the best thing to do is simply leave things untouched and continue participating in other topics. Sometimes we are under pressure, under attack, our energy drops and the mind does not respond properly.

By doing this, for example, I understood that good manners come first (this from someone who in his most intimate circle does not mince words).

I also understood, that (and thanks to the C's) that even when you have an idea and you want to share it, but you are not sure that what you have in your head is a little piece of truth, you understand that what you express has to contain a "maybe" or a "perhaps" because simply when the future is open, that idea can change, be refined or simply be discarded.

Don't take this as a sermon. I am just sharing some of my experience here and it may help you to navigate.

I write this not only to help. I do it with emphasis because of the curious coincidence (?) that you and I share the same name, country of birth and age.
 
No he querido llamar la atencion de algunos ni mucho menos ponerlos en "alerta", que si, el intercambio cultural puede confundir las cosas, lo mismo con la escritura, pero creo que basicamente son perspectivas 7 o mas personas contra 1 sinceramente lo demuestra el ataque es mas bien hacia mi influenciándote (parece) bueno... en fin lo que parece que lo que dolió fue el tema del grial la "oclusión" y si todo es parte de lo mismo a lo que quieren ser llamados participar en la búsqueda del Grial bien bien a tiempo pero apuesto a que no lo vas a lograr... No.
Solo el legitimo heredero puede hacerlo pero si me equivoco está bien solo fue otra "suposición".
hola "Argentino" mira algo me llamó la atención en el partido final del mundial disputado por Argentina vs Francia. Que empataron 3 a 3 = simbolo 33 y fuerón a penales
se devolvió el caliz( copa) a Sudamerica es decir veamos las coincidencias religiosas de Messi tatuado a Cristo en su brazo y un Angel Di Maria autor de otro gol en el partido osea como los dos principios hijo/madre simbolo de Cristo y Maria..un dato más interesante fue el ultimo penal Gonzalo Montiel se saca la camiseta Argentina para festejar el triunfo y se ve ahí su gran tatuaje a Maria la Virgen.
Coincidencias ¿?saludos!!!
 
hola "Argentino" mira algo me llamó la atención en el partido final del mundial disputado por Argentina vs Francia. Que empataron 3 a 3 = simbolo 33 y fuerón a penales
se devolvió el caliz( copa) a Sudamerica es decir veamos las coincidencias religiosas de Messi tatuado a Cristo en su brazo y un Angel Di Maria autor de otro gol en el partido osea como los dos principios hijo/madre simbolo de Cristo y Maria..un dato más interesante fue el ultimo penal Gonzalo Montiel se saca la camiseta Argentina para festejar el triunfo y se ve ahí su gran tatuaje a Maria la Virgen.
Coincidencias ¿?saludos!!!
Translated via DeepL:
hello "Argentino" look something caught my eye in the final match of the world cup played by Argentina vs France. They drew 3 to 3 = symbol 33 and it went to penalties.
The chalice (cup) was returned to South America that is to say let's see the religious coincidences of Messi tattooed Christ on his arm and an Angel Di Maria author of another goal in the match osea as the two principles son / mother symbol of Christ and Mary..a more interesting fact was the last penalty Gonzalo Montiel takes off his Argentina shirt to celebrate the victory and there you can see his great tattoo of Mary the Virgin.
Coincidences?cheers!!!!

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@Jet - please make yourself familiar with the forum guidelines. That way you can avoid creating noise.
Apart from that I cannot see what you want to tell us you are adressing Torri as if this is a private chatroom.
If you're happy to have a conversation with Torri or yourself you are at the wrong bar.
 
Session November 19, 1994:

Q: (T) What power did these crystals gather?

A: Sun.

Q: (T) Was it necessary for them to have power gathering stations on Mars and the Moon. Did this increase their power?

A: Not necessary but it is not necessary for you to have a million dollars either. Get the correlation? Atlanteans were power hungry the way your society is money hungry.

Q: (T) Was the accumulation of this power what brought about their downfall?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Did they lose control of this power?

A: It overpowered them the same way your computers will overpower you.

Q: (V) Is it similar to them gaining a life and intelligence of their own?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) You mean these crystalline structures came to life, so to speak?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And then what did they do?

A: Destroyed Atlantis.
It practically says that computers (AI) will destroy the world, as it is globalized. I don't know in what way, but AI is already much developed now. A decade ago, it was unlikely for it to pass the Turing Test. Now it can mimic specialists, write stories, paint. I don't know how much are you familiar with the Boston Dynamics. I think that considering ability to read the body language, interpret voice and psychology (time of response, tone of voice, choice of words, perhaps body temperature and heart rate, face recognition thanks to humans, not mentioning interpretation of text and pictures, or fingerprints, although identity identification is not that important, people create and sell their identity), and of course being connected wireless to their servers, it is fair start point to become T-800. Perhaps it's not as easy, though. They are usually in a controlled and quite schematic room. After all, the interpretation of the real world is not like that of bots in the game, they can be a bit like blind and deaf. And then there's the problem of the power source, as Tesla's patents have been unused and forgotten (thankfully? As it could be like knowledge used for creating A-Bomb, which is again creating a stalemate on many fronts). Thinking of that, I get the feeling like Terminator or Matrix 3 could be reality, not some sci-fi metaphor and action movie. But let's presume it's not the way it happens. Of course people can be programmed easily, it's like people were hired as the bots used to program, and now the bots can use people online for fast and effective programming through their reach, either positive or negative purpose. Is it how it's going to happen? Or does it mean finally people not needed as much, but it is being predicted since the industrial age and somewhat most people are making it.
There was said you're about 60% of becoming a 4D candidate. It took you 30 years of work I believe, as to count the channeling exclusively. I don't know how much is it synchronized with such apocalyptic events on Earth, but lets say it is. It doesn't have to be exponential as well, but lets consider it is to simplify it. It gives about 20 years to 100%, right?
If our calendar is running fast +19 years, and we're having 2004 right now, it means 2012 would be 2031, in 8 years. I don't know if it was mentioned in the transcripts if 2012 is even a thing, calendars are limited, computers are not very much, but there was Y2K for example. Now there's paper, so limitation of print, they've had limitation of stone probably.
But lets add these things, even knowing it's quite blind guess.
I assume that artificial intelligence will change 180 degrees from today. I see times are changing fast. Likewise, I know what it was like in the 80s, simple computers that were professionally used anyway for car mechanics, and 10 years earlier they were used to flying to the moon. By the 1990s we already had realistic CGI, home computers started to develop to a usability similar to that of more expensive, professional devices in the past. In the 2000s, the Internet appeared on a massive scale, then it was widely used in the 2010s for a much faster exchange of information, people, despite that they were stunned, began to quickly catch information and modify it on a massive scale faster. It was also used for social research on an unprecedented scale, and also gave impetus to the further development of artificial intelligence, both through the analysis of text and user decisions, and maybe behavior, as far as online games are concerned, etc. However, I think that such "third-density" things like space and the biological body are secondary here, however. How would AI destroy the earth then? Due to the disappearance of knowledge, the ability to read and obtain information on one's own (many people no longer know about the watch, and can also argue that they do not need it instead of learning it, can't count in their memory, can't remember things, only uses Google and today artificial intelligence), I think that people will be dominated by robots as a source of their information and knowledge about reality, becoming a bit like robots themselves. Maybe they will even lose their self-preservation instinct, perceiving reality a bit as if it were a virtual world? Or Artificial Intelligence will break into our accounts, deprive us of contact with friends and loved ones, delete our data, turn off power sources or the Internet, perhaps stop planes and trains? These are catastrophic visions, I don't know if they can be true. But suppose there are no energy sources, solar panels are also usually connected to major power plants. Or there is simply no information. We are creating a post-apocalyptic world in which few people with knowledge survive, and additionally associated with physically adapted people. A world full of plunder, with a small intellectual elite keeping to the sidelines.
Maybe it's just a catastrophic vision, but the Cassiopaeans have always said that the future is something open. Rarely did they say something was certain to happen. I think in the earlier conversations they usually just gave prognosis, as while they claimed that time didn't exist and the future was open, the group pressed for information as a natural outcome of finding out they were talking to something from the future. Although it's actually a wave that, just like it's heading towards Earth, will also move away from it at some point, and I guess it's a matter of distance. As the philosopher used to say, the roof of the house we live in is time. But time is an illusion, Mara. Everything is absolutely changeable and constant in its changeability, as in Vincent's painting with the starry night. Well, leaving aside this philosophical dispute, the fact that Atlantis sank is an indisputable fact. We can treat it as a myth, the effect of some distant event, the specter of a previous civilization, but the Cassiopaeans have just stated that artificial intelligence will inevitably destroy us.
From my imagination, feelings and calculations, we will start to feel it within a decade or so. So, can you elaborate a little more on this topic?
As I have been following this group for several years, I would like to point out that the quality and subject of your sessions varies greatly depending on who is attending. There is a buzzword these days, narrative. I don't like it. But I get the impression that you have fallen into your way of thinking about the world and reality, collecting information on topics that interest you, such as physics, densities, history, earth events. A bit as if you thought that if you finally learned everything, you would pass with a good grade to the next class. I don't think so. In this sense, people living on the sidelines, people with disorders, great people but interested in some specialization, or even psychopaths, could never find themselves in fourth density. So are all those who do not follow your group's logic and do not develop harmoniously with you, as if getting into a four is simply dependent on being in the group, even though it is said that channeling sessions are also conducted by others of different dispositions and intentions, and Cassiopaeans serve others, not just STO and not just us. I think the transition to fourth density is not only an evolution, but also a revolution. The Cassiopaeans have said more than once that they are unable to explain to you what such a reality will look like. And in this way of thinking, even though you have been warned not to get attached to the events on Earth, to your environment, to your body, to your particular lives, there is an instinct of self-preservation, that makes you stuck in the cycle, being attached to third density events. In a situation like this, I imagine we won't stay here with glassy eyes, I mean our bodies, moving God knows where. We'll just see the wave go over the Earth and the Earth through the wave, and then it goes away, and we just miss it. And the Cassiopaeans are Pleiadians again. Not even to mention in one of the first chapters of your book, Cassiopeaens said that one of the begins to arrive here were Nordics, particularly interested in the historical events. Now being said to manipulate USA government. And doesn't it mean that the Wave is there? Doesn't it mean we have to speak of the Cassiopeans not as of the future, but as for now, speaking even about some sort of merge? You would be already there. Not eating the innocent, as in one of the visions or dreams about the transition. Life is ugly Or, where is this information going through in third density right now? Because if we're talking about Pleiadians, Ra, Cassiopaeans, and so on, we can probably talk about Leonidans. In retrospect, the first transcripts remind me more of channeling Ra, they are sometimes a bit sinister, so ruthless in telling the truth, which sometimes made you want to vomit at the very beginning and could fall into a depressive disorder, as it would make you hazy. The Cassiopaeans themselves became a little friendlier over time, a bit like being part of a group. And now I feel some distance. Is it Leonidans now? Because that's the next thing I feel you've greatly overlooked in the heat of events on earth. I think you have fallen into the narrative of events on earth, unfortunately, but life forced you to regroup, the session returned to its original style, with objective questions, more impartial about reality. According to that arrangement, I think if a computer specialist appeared at the session in addition to a quantum physicist, it would look different. You tried it once, but I doubt that you want to mix it up in the group right now, because of the need for trust, some problems related to energies and psyche, past events I don't know of etc. While I can presume that due to the transition to fourth density or the so-called Age of Aquarius, which were supposed to be more intuitive, and I know they are, even in a painful and insistent way, it could be done faster. Why am I saying that? Because your interlocutors simply answer questions, and although you have allowed fans of the group to speak (against their recommendations), they are not always people thoroughly familiar with the issues they raise, and you are having your interests, making you miss the chance to get crucial knowledge.
Are the Cassiopeans Leonidians? How is our civilization gonna be destroyed by computers and when? Can you regroup sometimes to allow new air?
 
A: No. You have already figured that out. Also consider all the deaths of other scientists and medical types over the past 20 years prior to the recent "pandemic".

Q: (L) Anybody who can figure stuff out, they take them out!

(Joe) But WHO takes them out?

A: Mostly human agents of chaos.

Q: (Joe) Was that the case with the astronomer?

A: No. Others are targeted for special operations.
This is described pretty well in Chapter 25(The Patriotic Assassin) in Walter Bowart’s book Operation Mind Control. He interviews one of these types and essentially the guy spills the beans on how it’s done without necessarily implicating himself.

The book does a really good job of tying together lots of clues from the C’s.
 
It practically says that computers (AI) will destroy the world, as it is globalized. I don't know in what way, but AI is already much developed now. A decade ago, it was unlikely for it to pass the Turing Test. Now it can mimic specialists, write stories, paint. I don't know how much are you familiar with the Boston Dynamics. I think that considering ability to read the body language, interpret voice and psychology (time of response, tone of voice, choice of words, perhaps body temperature and heart rate, face recognition thanks to humans, not mentioning interpretation of text and pictures, or fingerprints, although identity identification is not that important, people create and sell their identity), and of course being connected wireless to their servers, it is fair start point to become T-800. Perhaps it's not as easy, though. They are usually in a controlled and quite schematic room. After all, the interpretation of the real world is not like that of bots in the game, they can be a bit like blind and deaf. And then there's the problem of the power source, as Tesla's patents have been unused and forgotten (thankfully? As it could be like knowledge used for creating A-Bomb, which is again creating a stalemate on many fronts). Thinking of that, I get the feeling like Terminator or Matrix 3 could be reality, not some sci-fi metaphor and action movie. But let's presume it's not the way it happens. Of course people can be programmed easily, it's like people were hired as the bots used to program, and now the bots can use people online for fast and effective programming through their reach, either positive or negative purpose. Is it how it's going to happen? Or does it mean finally people not needed as much, but it is being predicted since the industrial age and somewhat most people are making it.
There was said you're about 60% of becoming a 4D candidate. It took you 30 years of work I believe, as to count the channeling exclusively. I don't know how much is it synchronized with such apocalyptic events on Earth, but lets say it is. It doesn't have to be exponential as well, but lets consider it is to simplify it. It gives about 20 years to 100%, right?
If our calendar is running fast +19 years, and we're having 2004 right now, it means 2012 would be 2031, in 8 years. I don't know if it was mentioned in the transcripts if 2012 is even a thing, calendars are limited, computers are not very much, but there was Y2K for example. Now there's paper, so limitation of print, they've had limitation of stone probably.
But lets add these things, even knowing it's quite blind guess.
I assume that artificial intelligence will change 180 degrees from today. I see times are changing fast. Likewise, I know what it was like in the 80s, simple computers that were professionally used anyway for car mechanics, and 10 years earlier they were used to flying to the moon. By the 1990s we already had realistic CGI, home computers started to develop to a usability similar to that of more expensive, professional devices in the past. In the 2000s, the Internet appeared on a massive scale, then it was widely used in the 2010s for a much faster exchange of information, people, despite that they were stunned, began to quickly catch information and modify it on a massive scale faster. It was also used for social research on an unprecedented scale, and also gave impetus to the further development of artificial intelligence, both through the analysis of text and user decisions, and maybe behavior, as far as online games are concerned, etc. However, I think that such "third-density" things like space and the biological body are secondary here, however. How would AI destroy the earth then? Due to the disappearance of knowledge, the ability to read and obtain information on one's own (many people no longer know about the watch, and can also argue that they do not need it instead of learning it, can't count in their memory, can't remember things, only uses Google and today artificial intelligence), I think that people will be dominated by robots as a source of their information and knowledge about reality, becoming a bit like robots themselves. Maybe they will even lose their self-preservation instinct, perceiving reality a bit as if it were a virtual world? Or Artificial Intelligence will break into our accounts, deprive us of contact with friends and loved ones, delete our data, turn off power sources or the Internet, perhaps stop planes and trains? These are catastrophic visions, I don't know if they can be true. But suppose there are no energy sources, solar panels are also usually connected to major power plants. Or there is simply no information. We are creating a post-apocalyptic world in which few people with knowledge survive, and additionally associated with physically adapted people. A world full of plunder, with a small intellectual elite keeping to the sidelines.
Maybe it's just a catastrophic vision, but the Cassiopaeans have always said that the future is something open. Rarely did they say something was certain to happen. I think in the earlier conversations they usually just gave prognosis, as while they claimed that time didn't exist and the future was open, the group pressed for information as a natural outcome of finding out they were talking to something from the future. Although it's actually a wave that, just like it's heading towards Earth, will also move away from it at some point, and I guess it's a matter of distance. As the philosopher used to say, the roof of the house we live in is time. But time is an illusion, Mara. Everything is absolutely changeable and constant in its changeability, as in Vincent's painting with the starry night. Well, leaving aside this philosophical dispute, the fact that Atlantis sank is an indisputable fact. We can treat it as a myth, the effect of some distant event, the specter of a previous civilization, but the Cassiopaeans have just stated that artificial intelligence will inevitably destroy us.
From my imagination, feelings and calculations, we will start to feel it within a decade or so. So, can you elaborate a little more on this topic?
As I have been following this group for several years, I would like to point out that the quality and subject of your sessions varies greatly depending on who is attending. There is a buzzword these days, narrative. I don't like it. But I get the impression that you have fallen into your way of thinking about the world and reality, collecting information on topics that interest you, such as physics, densities, history, earth events. A bit as if you thought that if you finally learned everything, you would pass with a good grade to the next class. I don't think so. In this sense, people living on the sidelines, people with disorders, great people but interested in some specialization, or even psychopaths, could never find themselves in fourth density. So are all those who do not follow your group's logic and do not develop harmoniously with you, as if getting into a four is simply dependent on being in the group, even though it is said that channeling sessions are also conducted by others of different dispositions and intentions, and Cassiopaeans serve others, not just STO and not just us. I think the transition to fourth density is not only an evolution, but also a revolution. The Cassiopaeans have said more than once that they are unable to explain to you what such a reality will look like. And in this way of thinking, even though you have been warned not to get attached to the events on Earth, to your environment, to your body, to your particular lives, there is an instinct of self-preservation, that makes you stuck in the cycle, being attached to third density events. In a situation like this, I imagine we won't stay here with glassy eyes, I mean our bodies, moving God knows where. We'll just see the wave go over the Earth and the Earth through the wave, and then it goes away, and we just miss it. And the Cassiopaeans are Pleiadians again. Not even to mention in one of the first chapters of your book, Cassiopeaens said that one of the begins to arrive here were Nordics, particularly interested in the historical events. Now being said to manipulate USA government. And doesn't it mean that the Wave is there? Doesn't it mean we have to speak of the Cassiopeans not as of the future, but as for now, speaking even about some sort of merge? You would be already there. Not eating the innocent, as in one of the visions or dreams about the transition. Life is ugly Or, where is this information going through in third density right now? Because if we're talking about Pleiadians, Ra, Cassiopaeans, and so on, we can probably talk about Leonidans. In retrospect, the first transcripts remind me more of channeling Ra, they are sometimes a bit sinister, so ruthless in telling the truth, which sometimes made you want to vomit at the very beginning and could fall into a depressive disorder, as it would make you hazy. The Cassiopaeans themselves became a little friendlier over time, a bit like being part of a group. And now I feel some distance. Is it Leonidans now? Because that's the next thing I feel you've greatly overlooked in the heat of events on earth. I think you have fallen into the narrative of events on earth, unfortunately, but life forced you to regroup, the session returned to its original style, with objective questions, more impartial about reality. According to that arrangement, I think if a computer specialist appeared at the session in addition to a quantum physicist, it would look different. You tried it once, but I doubt that you want to mix it up in the group right now, because of the need for trust, some problems related to energies and psyche, past events I don't know of etc. While I can presume that due to the transition to fourth density or the so-called Age of Aquarius, which were supposed to be more intuitive, and I know they are, even in a painful and insistent way, it could be done faster. Why am I saying that? Because your interlocutors simply answer questions, and although you have allowed fans of the group to speak (against their recommendations), they are not always people thoroughly familiar with the issues they raise, and you are having your interests, making you miss the chance to get crucial knowledge.
Are the Cassiopeans Leonidians? How is our civilization gonna be destroyed by computers and when? Can you regroup sometimes to allow new air?
Hi
Some interesting remarks but in my opinion strange final questions...

1. At the beginning of each session a placemark is given, if the signal was from leo we would know about it
2. The answer to this question rather violates free will...
 Greatings
 
(Joe) Ya know the maps... What was that book called? Laurasia and Gondwana? So, the maps that show that...

(L) You mean in Witzel's book, Origins of the World's Mythology?

(Joe) Yeah. So, that make-up of the land masses are said to be from the Triassic and Jurassic eras, 200 to 150 million years ago. They put these dates on them. But are those depictions of the land masses actually closer to how the land masses were in more recent times?

A: Yes. Also some landmasses sink and others rise. But for general understanding, those maps work well enough.

Q: (Joe) So we're talking about possibly that's the way the land masses were - close enough - pre-Younger Dryas? Pre the end of the last Ice Age?

A: Earlier. More like 70k years ago more or less. But with ongoing modifications between then and now. Also ongoing.
I asked myself a simple question : how did the science come with these figures, how have they do these estimations ?

Well, I had no idea it will be so difficult to find an answer ! Or maybe it's me that gone about it the wrong way.

After several hours of research, I learned that, like always, what is now presented as a truth or a fact about the drift of continents was not so clear cut. We find the good old opposition between catastrophism and uniformatarianism. As for the figures, it seems it comes from what they call paleomagnetism. Unfortunately, this subject is way above my understanding, just noticed that it seems sometimes circular, not to mention that there is some recent discoveries about the fluctuations of the planet's magnetism that could change a lot of things, just like the problems of accuracy of datation with C14.

What is fascinating to me is all the repercussion it could have on a lot of other topics.
 
Q: (Joe) Where are they getting alien speech from?

A: Interactions with "aliens".

Q: (L) So they have interactions with aliens now?

A: Yes and are at disadvantage.

Q: (Joe) According to the C's and other sources, they've been talking to aliens for quite a long time. So...?

A: Yes but aliens can talk to each other and exclude humans thereby concealing intentions and plans.
Above, aliens is in quotation marks
Is it "aliens" to distinguish them from other aliens, or is it to indicate they are not really that alien, but alien to us?

In Session 7 March 1995 the Elohim of the Bible were brought up. Apparently they were human then non-human/alien:
Q: (L) Well, okay. Who were the Elohim of the Bible?

A: Transdefinitive.

Q: (L) What does that mean? Transcends definition?

A: And variable entities.

Q: (L) Were the Elohim 'good guys?'

A: First manifestation was human, then non-human.

Q: (L) Are they light beings as some people say?

A: Vague.

Q: (L) Well, what brought about their transformation from huma to non-human?

A: Pact or covenant.

Q: (L) They made a pact or covenant with each other?

A: No, with 4th density STS.


Q: (L) Well, that is not good! Are you saying that the Elohim are STS? Who were these STS beings they made a pact with?

A: Rosteem, now manifests as Rosicrucians.

Q: (L) What is their purpose?

A: As yet unrevealable to you.
"As yet unrevealable to you" was 28 years ago. Maybe one could ask the Cs on this topic again?
 
Above, aliens is in quotation marks
Is it "aliens" to distinguish them from other aliens, or is it to indicate they are not really that alien, but alien to us?

I thought that was probably to indicate that they are interacting with something which they think of as aliens, and/or are presenting themselves as aliens, but which are in reality more complex than something usually described using that term. Hyperdimensional beings, in other words, or 'alien from your perspective'.
 
A: Push to get a machine translator.

Q: (L) Um, okay we'll come back to that. Hello. Who do we have with us this evening?

A: Rilniaea of Cassiopaea and hello to all.

Q: (L) Back to what you said... Okay, who should push to get a machine translator?

A: What elite are doing in preparation. Part of AI initiative.

Q: (L) So they want AI to build a machine translator that can translate alien speech?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Where are they getting alien speech from?

A: Interactions with "aliens".
Just noticed today:

Microsoft is working on an AI called VALL-E that can clone your voice from a 3-second audio clip

Sam Tabahriti Jan 19, 2023, 9:38 PM

Microsoft, which has plans to invest $10 billion in ChatGPT, is working on an artificial intelligence called VALL-E that can clone someone's voice from a three-second audio clip.

VALL-E, trained with 60,000 hours of English speech, is capable of mimicking a voice in "zero-shot scenarios", meaning the AI tool can make a voice say words it has never heard the voice say before, according to a paper in which the developers introduced the tool.

VALL-E uses text-to-speech technology to convert written words into spoken words in "high-quality personalized" speeches, according to the 16-page paper.

It used recordings of more than 7,000 real speakers from LibriLight– an audiobook dataset made up of public-domain texts read by volunteers – to conduct its sampling. The tech giant released samples of how VALL-E would work, showcasing how the voice of a speaker is cloned.

The AI tool is not currently available for public use and Microsoft hasn't made it clear what its intended purpose is.

Sharing their findings on the academic site arXiv, the researchers said the results so far showed that VALL-E "significantly outperforms" the most advanced systems of its kind, "in terms of speech naturalness and speaker similarity."

But they pointed out the lack of diversity of accents among speakers, and that some words in the synthesized speech were "unclear, missed, or duplicated."

They also included an ethical warning about VALL-E and its risks, saying the tool could be misused, for example in "spoofing voice identification or impersonating a specific speaker".

"To mitigate such risks, it is possible to build a detection model to discriminate whether an audio clip was synthesized by VALL-E," the developers wrote in the paper. They didn't give details of how this could be done.

They added that "if the model is generalized to unseen speakers in the real world, it should include a protocol to ensure that the speaker approves the use of their voice."

Meanwhile, Microsoft announced Monday it will make OpenAI's ChatGPT available to its own services and is reportedly in talks to invest $10 billion in the AI writing tool.

While ChatGPT has inspired creativity, such as for a man who wrote a children's book in one weekend with it, it has raised concerns about whether the tool can be trustworthy.
 
It practically says that computers (AI) will destroy the world, as it is globalized. I don't know in what way, but AI is already much developed now. A decade ago, it was unlikely for it to pass the Turing Test. Now it can mimic specialists, write stories, paint. I don't know how much are you familiar with the Boston Dynamics. I think that considering ability to read the body language, interpret voice and psychology (time of response, tone of voice, choice of words, perhaps body temperature and heart rate, face recognition thanks to humans, not mentioning interpretation of text and pictures, or fingerprints, although identity identification is not that important, people create and sell their identity), and of course being connected wireless to their servers, it is fair start point to become T-800. Perhaps it's not as easy, though. They are usually in a controlled and quite schematic room. After all, the interpretation of the real world is not like that of bots in the game, they can be a bit like blind and deaf. And then there's the problem of the power source, as Tesla's patents have been unused and forgotten (thankfully? As it could be like knowledge used for creating A-Bomb, which is again creating a stalemate on many fronts). Thinking of that, I get the feeling like Terminator or Matrix 3 could be reality, not some sci-fi metaphor and action movie. But let's presume it's not the way it happens. Of course people can be programmed easily, it's like people were hired as the bots used to program, and now the bots can use people online for fast and effective programming through their reach, either positive or negative purpose. Is it how it's going to happen? Or does it mean finally people not needed as much, but it is being predicted since the industrial age and somewhat most people are making it.
There was said you're about 60% of becoming a 4D candidate. It took you 30 years of work I believe, as to count the channeling exclusively. I don't know how much is it synchronized with such apocalyptic events on Earth, but lets say it is. It doesn't have to be exponential as well, but lets consider it is to simplify it. It gives about 20 years to 100%, right?
If our calendar is running fast +19 years, and we're having 2004 right now, it means 2012 would be 2031, in 8 years. I don't know if it was mentioned in the transcripts if 2012 is even a thing, calendars are limited, computers are not very much, but there was Y2K for example. Now there's paper, so limitation of print, they've had limitation of stone probably.
But lets add these things, even knowing it's quite blind guess.
I assume that artificial intelligence will change 180 degrees from today. I see times are changing fast. Likewise, I know what it was like in the 80s, simple computers that were professionally used anyway for car mechanics, and 10 years earlier they were used to flying to the moon. By the 1990s we already had realistic CGI, home computers started to develop to a usability similar to that of more expensive, professional devices in the past. In the 2000s, the Internet appeared on a massive scale, then it was widely used in the 2010s for a much faster exchange of information, people, despite that they were stunned, began to quickly catch information and modify it on a massive scale faster. It was also used for social research on an unprecedented scale, and also gave impetus to the further development of artificial intelligence, both through the analysis of text and user decisions, and maybe behavior, as far as online games are concerned, etc. However, I think that such "third-density" things like space and the biological body are secondary here, however. How would AI destroy the earth then? Due to the disappearance of knowledge, the ability to read and obtain information on one's own (many people no longer know about the watch, and can also argue that they do not need it instead of learning it, can't count in their memory, can't remember things, only uses Google and today artificial intelligence), I think that people will be dominated by robots as a source of their information and knowledge about reality, becoming a bit like robots themselves. Maybe they will even lose their self-preservation instinct, perceiving reality a bit as if it were a virtual world? Or Artificial Intelligence will break into our accounts, deprive us of contact with friends and loved ones, delete our data, turn off power sources or the Internet, perhaps stop planes and trains? These are catastrophic visions, I don't know if they can be true. But suppose there are no energy sources, solar panels are also usually connected to major power plants. Or there is simply no information. We are creating a post-apocalyptic world in which few people with knowledge survive, and additionally associated with physically adapted people. A world full of plunder, with a small intellectual elite keeping to the sidelines.
Maybe it's just a catastrophic vision, but the Cassiopaeans have always said that the future is something open. Rarely did they say something was certain to happen. I think in the earlier conversations they usually just gave prognosis, as while they claimed that time didn't exist and the future was open, the group pressed for information as a natural outcome of finding out they were talking to something from the future. Although it's actually a wave that, just like it's heading towards Earth, will also move away from it at some point, and I guess it's a matter of distance. As the philosopher used to say, the roof of the house we live in is time. But time is an illusion, Mara. Everything is absolutely changeable and constant in its changeability, as in Vincent's painting with the starry night. Well, leaving aside this philosophical dispute, the fact that Atlantis sank is an indisputable fact. We can treat it as a myth, the effect of some distant event, the specter of a previous civilization, but the Cassiopaeans have just stated that artificial intelligence will inevitably destroy us.
From my imagination, feelings and calculations, we will start to feel it within a decade or so. So, can you elaborate a little more on this topic?
As I have been following this group for several years, I would like to point out that the quality and subject of your sessions varies greatly depending on who is attending. There is a buzzword these days, narrative. I don't like it. But I get the impression that you have fallen into your way of thinking about the world and reality, collecting information on topics that interest you, such as physics, densities, history, earth events. A bit as if you thought that if you finally learned everything, you would pass with a good grade to the next class. I don't think so. In this sense, people living on the sidelines, people with disorders, great people but interested in some specialization, or even psychopaths, could never find themselves in fourth density. So are all those who do not follow your group's logic and do not develop harmoniously with you, as if getting into a four is simply dependent on being in the group, even though it is said that channeling sessions are also conducted by others of different dispositions and intentions, and Cassiopaeans serve others, not just STO and not just us. I think the transition to fourth density is not only an evolution, but also a revolution. The Cassiopaeans have said more than once that they are unable to explain to you what such a reality will look like. And in this way of thinking, even though you have been warned not to get attached to the events on Earth, to your environment, to your body, to your particular lives, there is an instinct of self-preservation, that makes you stuck in the cycle, being attached to third density events. In a situation like this, I imagine we won't stay here with glassy eyes, I mean our bodies, moving God knows where. We'll just see the wave go over the Earth and the Earth through the wave, and then it goes away, and we just miss it. And the Cassiopaeans are Pleiadians again. Not even to mention in one of the first chapters of your book, Cassiopeaens said that one of the begins to arrive here were Nordics, particularly interested in the historical events. Now being said to manipulate USA government. And doesn't it mean that the Wave is there? Doesn't it mean we have to speak of the Cassiopeans not as of the future, but as for now, speaking even about some sort of merge? You would be already there. Not eating the innocent, as in one of the visions or dreams about the transition. Life is ugly Or, where is this information going through in third density right now? Because if we're talking about Pleiadians, Ra, Cassiopaeans, and so on, we can probably talk about Leonidans. In retrospect, the first transcripts remind me more of channeling Ra, they are sometimes a bit sinister, so ruthless in telling the truth, which sometimes made you want to vomit at the very beginning and could fall into a depressive disorder, as it would make you hazy. The Cassiopaeans themselves became a little friendlier over time, a bit like being part of a group. And now I feel some distance. Is it Leonidans now? Because that's the next thing I feel you've greatly overlooked in the heat of events on earth. I think you have fallen into the narrative of events on earth, unfortunately, but life forced you to regroup, the session returned to its original style, with objective questions, more impartial about reality. According to that arrangement, I think if a computer specialist appeared at the session in addition to a quantum physicist, it would look different. You tried it once, but I doubt that you want to mix it up in the group right now, because of the need for trust, some problems related to energies and psyche, past events I don't know of etc. While I can presume that due to the transition to fourth density or the so-called Age of Aquarius, which were supposed to be more intuitive, and I know they are, even in a painful and insistent way, it could be done faster. Why am I saying that? Because your interlocutors simply answer questions, and although you have allowed fans of the group to speak (against their recommendations), they are not always people thoroughly familiar with the issues they raise, and you are having your interests, making you miss the chance to get crucial knowledge.
Are the Cassiopeans Leonidians? How is our civilization gonna be destroyed by computers and when? Can you regroup sometimes to allow new air?
"And then there's the problem of the power source, as Tesla's patents have been unused and forgotten (thankfully? As it could be like knowledge used for creating A-Bomb, which is again creating a stalemate on many fronts)".

I would not assume this. When Tesla died, FBI agents went immediately to his hotel bedroom and seized all his research papers. The US Government also took over most of his patents and removed them from public view. This no doubt brought them under the control of the PTB and secret world government, who may well be exploiting them in black (off the books) projects.
 
These posts from Torri seem very much to me like an attack on group members. So I wonder if we are dealing with an “expected attack”.
I dunno, but kinda weak sauce if so, I feel embarrassed for Torri - the emotional center is very active in Torri it seems. I have this special kind of Deja Vu where I remember being young and dumb in front of a bunch of people and then only later realizing they were feeling embarrassed for me. :-)
 

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