Session 19 July 2014

nicklebleu said:
Thanks Laura and crew for this amazing session and rapid transcription!

9/11 certainly was the catalyst for me on my way down the "rabbit-hole". Not straight away, but over time. The more I looked into it, the more confusing and contradictory things became. And then I found the forum ...

Thank you Laura, Ark and the entire Chateau Crew for the session! :perfect: :cheer: :thup: :clap:
:hug:

A lot to think about! :read:

9/11 was also for me a stepping stone what's going on in the world.
From then on I started to pay attention a lot more to everything what's going on in the world.
It took 7 years after 9/11 I found the forum and after thanks to Laura the picture started to becoming clearer!

Thank you Laura for your persistent work and effort! :hug2:
 
Bo said:
Thank you for another great session, it really boils one blood to see with how much these psycho's can get away with.

author=Snow link=topic=35463.msg508731#msg508731 date=1405942090]
Thank you for this very insightful session!

I was aware that the Israeli secret service had ties to Schiphol, but not that their ties are so deep into the security of the Dutch airport. From what I understand now, they can practically do as they please! :scared:

This makes the Bijlmer disaster of 1992 with El Al flight 1862 very suspicious, since alot of the details were hushed up.

Regarding the Malaysian crash itself: Like 9-11 I again have this feeling that we stepped into a parallel world. I cannot exactly put it into words, but it feels like the world took a wrong turn. Maybe this is what is meant by a marker point?

If I remember correctly, the C's mentioned in a session (from 2010 I believe) that the percentage of Pyschopaths in Holland was 13% which is a lot for a country like Holland. So it isn't that suprising that they are deeply rooted in such locations.

First thank you for this great session. Much to digest.

@ Bo I think I found the session for the psychopath percentage in holland. It's the session 30 January 2010

Laura said:
I've introduced a new "style" in this session: giving some of those present their forum names for familiarity.


Session Date: January 30th 2010

Laura, Ark, Ottershrew, Joe, Andromeda, Belibaste, Nomad, Burma Jones, PoB, Alada, Ailén, Scottie, Psyche

--

(L) Next. Belibaste, go ahead and ask your question.

(Belibaste) We wanted to know the percentage of psychopaths geographically speaking, like in the US, Israel, UK.

(L) Alright, let's take them one at a time.

(Belibaste) USA?

A: 23 percent.

Q: (Belibaste) United Kingdom?

A: 14 percent.

Q: (L) That's because they all went to America. (laughter)

(Ailén) Israel?

A: 42 percent.

Q: (Belibaste) France?

A: 10 percent.

Q: (Burma Jones) Russia?

A: 17

Q: (Belibaste) What about some poor country like Ethiopia?

A: 3

Q: (Joe) That's 75 million people in the US.

(Burma Jones) That's a lot of psychopaths.

(Ottershrew) What's the country that's the lowest?

A: Samoa

Q: (Belibaste) What's the percentage in Samoa?

A: 0.6

Q: (Belibaste) In Samoa there's quite a strong ethnical specificity.

(L) I don't know anything about Samoa.

(Joe) I think they're the same as the Maori.

(PoB) Just in case, is there any country with a bigger percentage than Israel?

A: Not at present

Q: (Burma Jones) So Israel is the worst at present.

(Belibaste) In the past, was there a country with a higher percentage?

A: Low Countries.

Q: (Andromeda) What about Spain?

A: 2.6

Q: (Ailén) China?

A: 0.9

Q: (Ailén) Well, there are so many people in China...

(Joe) When they said the low countries, did they all leave the low countries and go to England?

A: USA and South Africa

Q: (Ailén) What about Holland?

(L) That's the low countries.

(Ailén) But that was in the past...

(L) Oh, you mean at present?

A: Still high

Q: (L) Are you going to give us a number on that?

A: 13


Q: (Joe) In this study that was done that was investigating why a majority of English have no Celtic genes - they're all Anglo-Saxon - they had two theories. One was that...

A: Not "Anglo-Saxon" proper, but Germanic certainly.

Q: (Joe) The theory was that the Anglo-Saxon or Germanic peoples came over with the fall of the Romans and they came into Britain. And the ones that stayed established an apartheid society and they essentially outbred the indigenous population.

A: Read Laura's book, it is closer to the facts.

Q: (Joe) What book was that? (laughter)

(L) (L) Oppenheimer’s “The Origins of the British”. He has quite a different thing to say about it. So, next question.

The high number of psychopaths in the low countries now in retrospect doesn't surprise me, knowing the colonial history of the Netherlands.
 
Kniall said:
Approaching Infinity said:
But why move the Ukrainian launchers into the region? To make Russia think it was Kiev? Throw them off the scent, knowing that even if Kiev had BUK systems there, it wouldn't be enough to make people question the official anti-Russian narrative?

It throws Russia off the scent too, keeps everyone focussed on USA vs Russia, and no one suspecting Israel.

Well, apparently, they were successfully thrown off the scent, unless they want it to appear so.

RIA Novosti just published, that they asked two experts, and they have only two main theories for the crash.
_http://ria.ru/world/20140721/1016897744.html#ixzz386jgSrVA
That it was either shut down using Buk missile system, and in this case it could be also a mistake. Or it was shut down using air-to-air missile, and in this case it couldn't be anything else than a deliberate attack. I also saw a part of press conference in Russia, where they make a lot of effort to explain and present evidence to the foreign media that Buk missile system was probably involved.

And there is also this breaking news from RT:
http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Knowing now what happened I find it fascinating, that the option of bomb on board isn't even considered. It's like a perfect example of the principle, that it is often not what is said but what is not said that is indicative of the truth.
 
Keit said:
And there is also this breaking news from RT:
http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Could it be, that Ukranian SU-25 was supposed to give a visual confirmation, that MH17 changed its path and that everything was going according to plan? And maybe the pilot gave the ok prematurely (or he was the one to push the button), and that's why MH17 exploded a pit earlier than it was supposed to? Or maybe it was there just to check, since it was a no fly zone, and now Ukrainians can't really admit it, because it would mean disclosing their "bosses".
 
Thank you very much for this session and the quick transcription.

>>because what's really holding people back is fear: <<<

That's absolutely true. I take this as a hint to stuck more to my true inner self! Even if I am very afraid of doing so. Because society does not seem to like you when you speak the truth.
And being wounded by the programming of family and society it is now time to heal these wounds. In fact they are already healing by seing them, I think.

So I might be safer than I thought. Anyway it is just a way of how you see things. If you see yourself lonesome you will be lonesome.
If you see yourself as member of a society you can act like a member or a part of it. And most often you are not killed when you speak the truth - at least in everyday life!

Sorry for being a little personal at this.
This session gave me a very big kick to face my fear and leave it behind.

:read: :knitting:
 
Keit said:
Keit said:
And there is also this breaking news from RT:
http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Could it be, that Ukranian SU-25 was supposed to give a visual confirmation, that MH17 changed its path and that everything was going according to plan? And maybe the pilot gave the ok prematurely (or he was the one to push the button), and that's why MH17 exploded a pit earlier than it was supposed to?

Or maybe Kiev wasn't in on the plan, and they sent the SU-25 to check out what was going on?
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Or maybe Kiev wasn't in on the plan, and they sent the SU-25 to check out what was going on?

Yeah! I modified the post to include this part: " Or maybe it was there just to check, since it was a no fly zone, and now Ukrainians can't really admit it, because it would mean disclosing their "bosses"."

Maybe they were told to keep silent. And who knows, maybe the pilot saw the plane exploding in front of his eyes.
 
Eric said:
Bo said:
Thank you for another great session, it really boils one blood to see with how much these psycho's can get away with.

author=Snow link=topic=35463.msg508731#msg508731 date=1405942090]
Thank you for this very insightful session!

I was aware that the Israeli secret service had ties to Schiphol, but not that their ties are so deep into the security of the Dutch airport. From what I understand now, they can practically do as they please! :scared:

This makes the Bijlmer disaster of 1992 with El Al flight 1862 very suspicious, since alot of the details were hushed up.

Regarding the Malaysian crash itself: Like 9-11 I again have this feeling that we stepped into a parallel world. I cannot exactly put it into words, but it feels like the world took a wrong turn. Maybe this is what is meant by a marker point?

If I remember correctly, the C's mentioned in a session (from 2010 I believe) that the percentage of Pyschopaths in Holland was 13% which is a lot for a country like Holland. So it isn't that suprising that they are deeply rooted in such locations.

First thank you for this great session. Much to digest.

@ Bo I think I found the session for the psychopath percentage in holland. It's the session 30 January 2010

Laura said:
I've introduced a new "style" in this session: giving some of those present their forum names for familiarity.


Session Date: January 30th 2010

Laura, Ark, Ottershrew, Joe, Andromeda, Belibaste, Nomad, Burma Jones, PoB, Alada, Ailén, Scottie, Psyche

--

(L) Next. Belibaste, go ahead and ask your question.

(Belibaste) We wanted to know the percentage of psychopaths geographically speaking, like in the US, Israel, UK.

(L) Alright, let's take them one at a time.

(Belibaste) USA?

A: 23 percent.

Q: (Belibaste) United Kingdom?

A: 14 percent.

Q: (L) That's because they all went to America. (laughter)

(Ailén) Israel?

A: 42 percent.

Q: (Belibaste) France?

A: 10 percent.

Q: (Burma Jones) Russia?

A: 17

Q: (Belibaste) What about some poor country like Ethiopia?

A: 3

Q: (Joe) That's 75 million people in the US.

(Burma Jones) That's a lot of psychopaths.

(Ottershrew) What's the country that's the lowest?

A: Samoa

Q: (Belibaste) What's the percentage in Samoa?

A: 0.6

Q: (Belibaste) In Samoa there's quite a strong ethnical specificity.

(L) I don't know anything about Samoa.

(Joe) I think they're the same as the Maori.

(PoB) Just in case, is there any country with a bigger percentage than Israel?

A: Not at present

Q: (Burma Jones) So Israel is the worst at present.

(Belibaste) In the past, was there a country with a higher percentage?

A: Low Countries.

Q: (Andromeda) What about Spain?

A: 2.6

Q: (Ailén) China?

A: 0.9

Q: (Ailén) Well, there are so many people in China...

(Joe) When they said the low countries, did they all leave the low countries and go to England?

A: USA and South Africa

Q: (Ailén) What about Holland?

(L) That's the low countries.

(Ailén) But that was in the past...

(L) Oh, you mean at present?

A: Still high

Q: (L) Are you going to give us a number on that?

A: 13


Q: (Joe) In this study that was done that was investigating why a majority of English have no Celtic genes - they're all Anglo-Saxon - they had two theories. One was that...

A: Not "Anglo-Saxon" proper, but Germanic certainly.

Q: (Joe) The theory was that the Anglo-Saxon or Germanic peoples came over with the fall of the Romans and they came into Britain. And the ones that stayed established an apartheid society and they essentially outbred the indigenous population.

A: Read Laura's book, it is closer to the facts.

Q: (Joe) What book was that? (laughter)

(L) (L) Oppenheimer’s “The Origins of the British”. He has quite a different thing to say about it. So, next question.

The high number of psychopaths in the low countries now in retrospect doesn't surprise me, knowing the colonial history of the Netherlands.

13% psychopaths. That's almost 1/5 of the entire Dutch population. That's about 2,191,556! Wow, talk about shocking when you realize the actual number...

Keit said:
Knowing now what happened I find it fascinating, that the option of bomb on board isn't even considered. It's like a perfect example of the principle, that it is often not what is said but what is not said that is indicative of the truth.

Yes, that's why they are hammering on the whole "It was a missile" thing. Divert our attention away from other possibilities (and the truth).
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Keit said:
Keit said:
And there is also this breaking news from RT:
http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Could it be, that Ukranian SU-25 was supposed to give a visual confirmation, that MH17 changed its path and that everything was going according to plan? And maybe the pilot gave the ok prematurely (or he was the one to push the button), and that's why MH17 exploded a pit earlier than it was supposed to?

Or maybe Kiev wasn't in on the plan, and they sent the SU-25 to check out what was going on?

I think it's more probable because they don't really need any visual confirmation about changing the course of a plane since there are stationary radars/satellites for that purpose. Additionally they have already capability to remotely control planes (including take-off and landing) without pilots so they could definitely send a signal over satellite to explode the bomb.
 
Thank you all for another fascinating session and for clarifications on the last session about Caesar and 5D. Alots of ponder...

:flowers:
 
Q: (Pierre) Which is really screwed up when you think about it. The signal is strong, ya know? Okay, we make MH 370 disappear. And the only answer they have instead of behaving better is, "Okay, we bring down MH 17, and we increase even more the lies and suffering!"

(Perceval) So these signatures are used for what? Just for fun? For whose benefit?

A: Pride, hubris, warnings to those who know.

Q: (Chu) On the session when we talked about the interpreters and stuff, the plane {that disappeared, Flight 370}, if I understood correctly, was a message...

(L) It was a warning...

(Chu) To not go too far.

(L) And they've basically answered by saying, "Up yours!"

A: Yes.

That is so troubling [and obvious] it is laughable.

Bearing in mind the ECHCC – the Diana outpouring of grief episode, for example – I too have been wondering if there would be a correlated event following the plane episode. On top of that there IS attention on Gaza; obviously less people protesting than those believing lies, but still a considerable amount of people involved.

9/11 didn't wake me up - too distracted - I didn't know what to believe; even 7/7 (the London bombings) we all just took the heightened emotions to the pub. It was a year or so later when i began to question and looked further into the subject. It helped that i got my first laptop.

Regarding Ukraine: I noticed the Guardian (UK 'lefty' paper) – as has been mentioned by others – is going all out with it's anti-Russia propaganda; similar to their work on the Iraq war, global warming, snowden, wikileaks et al

I reread the previous session and Caesar speaking felt similar to the description of his concise writing, nothing superfluous , just direct and – for a westerner, i think – emotionless. Which probably demonstrates how much piffle and niceties plague our language. Thanks to the C's confirmation, i will be reading some of his work.

It is because of the repeated work here that I am better equipped to assess these events. And i have fewer illusions of what they're capable of. :cool2:

Thank you for the session! :D
 
It's kinda hard for me to imagine that Kiev wasn't in on the plan. Why would they move those BUK systems into the Donbas area if it wasn't to distract from a bomb being on the plane? There's no military reason to bring those into the conflict area as the rebels have no aircraft. Also the Ukrainian ATC must have been in on it, no? Unless all of it was under Israeli control - air traffic control AND military operations - which I guess is not entirely impossible either. Plus the dual citizen Israeli oligarch do control most important things in Ukraine, so they probably have plenty of high level agents and operatives all over the place. Could they have kept the plot under raps from puppets like Porochenko and the Interior Ministry?
 
Thanks for yet another very insightful session! :)

There seems to have been a confirmation of sorts in this session relating to how Laura is now re-interpreting previous sessions as well as present ones. I have just received Laura's latest book today (Cassiopaea Experiment Transcripts Volume 1, 1994 - http://www.amazon.com/Cassiopaea-Experiment-Transcripts-1994-Volume/dp/1897244991), and am so looking forward to reading it.

I think session counts as a 'hit' for Laura and the team! :)

{3 Dec 1004: Ukraine explosion; chemical or nuclear. Hawaii crash; aviation, possibly involving military. More California seismic activity after 1st of year: San Diego, San Bernardino, North Bakersfield, Barstow: all are fracture points. Hollister, Palo Alto, Imperial, Ukiah, Eureka, Point Mendocino, Monterrey, Offshore San Luis Obispo, Capistrano, Carmel: these are all stress points of fracture in sequence. “Time” is indefinite. Expect gradual destruction of California economy as people begin mass exodus. Also, Shasta erupts; Lassen activity. Ocean floor begins to subside.

Getting to my question: Was that “Hawaii crash” a reference to what has happened here recently, like for example with MH 370 and MH 17? Even though the original was Hawaii, I would say Malaysia is in the Pacific more or less, so it's kind of sideways... Was that a reference to these events, even that far in advance?

A: Yes.

Q: (Perceval) So that was seen that far in advance as a marker, as a major event. There's been a lot of stuff that has happened since then that they didn't mention. So, why did that one stand out 20 years ago? Why did this event stand out so strongly? Are we all screwed?

A: Interpretation is key. The elements here are metaphoric. That far in advance it can only be approximate. However, note the confluence of major elements in terms of similarity.

Q: (L) So, Ukraine obviously has been known in advance as a flashpoint, and there is some awareness of... Could it be said that these sorts of things were already in the minds of some planners that far in advance?

A: Yes.


From Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 Crashes in Ukraine thread:

Laura said:
In the recently released 1st volume of the Cs' transcripts, annotated, there is this passage and my notes:

Ukraine explosion; chemical or nuclear. [1] Hawaii crash; aviation, possibly involving military. [2] More California seismic activity after 1st of year: San Diego, San Bernardino, North Bakersfield, Barstow: all are fracture points. Hollister, Palo Alto, Imperial, Ukiah, Eureka, Point Mendocino, Monterrey, Offshore San Luis Obispo, Capistrano, Carmel: these are all stress points of fracture in sequence. “Time” is indefinite. Expect gradual destruction of California economy as people begin mass exodus. [3] Also, Shasta erupts; Lassen activity. Ocean floor begins to subside. [4]

[1]: If you want to look at this metaphorically, you could say that there has already been an important “explosion” in Ukraine in terms of the recent political events (1st half of 2014). However, there is still the possibility of a nuclear explosion there what with the psychopaths running the U.S., the EU, and NATO. What I do find interesting is that this came first as though it were some sort of “marker” event. When you take that in the context of the discussion of the “realm border” and “convergence point” following, it seems that we may, indeed, be on the verge of some dramatic changes.

[2]: Considering the many years in advance that this set of marker events was forecast, I’m wondering if the “Hawaii crash” might not refer to the missing Malaysian jetliner, Flight 370, that disappeared pretty much at the same time that Ukraine was going off?

[3]: Based on the “after first of year” qualifier, and if this goes with the ‘set of markers,’ perhaps it is yet to come?

[4]: This is particularly interesting considering what the Gulf Breeze Six included in their predictions, which I included with the November 6 1994 session. You might want to check them for comparisons. Obviously, their dates are way off, but still, there is something!

[5]: If these are marker events, and Ukraine is the big one, I guess we can wait and see on this one.

Earlier in the book I discuss the problems of prophecy, especially prophesying many years in advance coupled with the abstract nature of transdensity communications. But looking now at this new Malaysian (Pacific region as is Hawaii) crash "possibly involving military" for sure, it just makes me wonder.

I do think these are marker events.

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,35438.msg508362.html#msg508362
 
To: Mr. Jadczyk
Our Unsung Hero of the last two sessions. Thanks, for holding/grounding the energy for the group.
Are there side effects of this new found jolt? Very cool of you to be of close FRV to that of Caesar.
 

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Approaching Infinity said:
With Duff as a source, I wouldn't trust it, but I thought the mention of Russian intel was interesting.

Yeah, Duff by name Duff by nature. His claim that 9/11 was nuclear is an example of the kind of BS he spouts. I reckon he's either mentally unstable (I spoke to him for two hours one night) or he's a tool of US intel intrigue, or...both (US intel makes good use of crazy people).
 
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