Session 21 June 2014

[Shared Joy]

Quote from Galaxia 2002

"I dare to say that Gurdjieff in now putting indirectly some people in his place because his work and writings. I wonder if that has an effect in his life in 5D. Can the actions developed by an individual in life have an effect on his soul when he is not more in 3D if that efforts bloom after his death?"

I think that everything a man left behind is usable if found by someone capable to bring it to fruition. History is full of examples of people getting recognition long after they'd passed away.

But if our lives are being lived on many levels simultaneously, there is no time barrier for soul development, just new lessons, judt a new focus. I think some souls are already waiting for everybody else to reach the 6D to return to Oneness, as I remember the C's had once told.
Joy

 

[Shared Joy]

Thanks for the session. Very interesting comments about Gurdjieff.
How can someone in 5D "be attentive to earth issues"?

(L) So it's weakening mainly over North America? Is there any significance to that?

A: Oh indeed!

Q: (L) And what might that significance be?

A: Just you wait!

Q: (Perceval) Does a weakened magnetic field have any correlation to stronger likelihood of meteorite impacts or space rock attraction type stuff?

A: Or geological activity!

Not so sure about Yellowstone, even though, of course, one never knows. However, the C's have been talking a lot about a "5D city on a hill" aka Washington, DC and if I correctly remember, encouraged a member in a recent session to sell his/her house and move away from the area. I found that quite straightforward, given that they usually want us to figure things out for ourselves. Given the level of ponerization of Washington DC it would also naturally attract disasters...Just a thought.

Here's a recent video about the Yellowstone basin activity, though it can't be verified

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjPo7A5vyFE

 

[Siberia]

I often wondered about the difference between the life described in "Meetings with remarkable men" and the known life of Gurdjieff. Maybe what he wanted was to form a network, and for that the teacher/student situation was a necessary step, albeit not a finite goal in itself. "meetings" is about a bunch of people from different walks of life who learn from each other and from each other errors and life experiences. That doesn't seem to be the case in the prieuré and maybe that what prevented Gurdjieff from advancing further on, he had arrived to a point where he had to stop to wait for the others and these others didn't make it because they where still stuck in the needy attitude of the teacher/student situation. The way I understand it between the lines, is that Gurdjieff idea of a school was not a school in the common sens of the term, with only lectures and homework, but there was a working together aspect that the student probably didn't absorb completely. OSIT

This explains it for me, thanks, mkrnhr. If Gurdjieff indeed had to "lead his students by the hand" at some point instead of gaining knowledge through strong mutual networking, he could "slip a bit". He probably expected from his students not only absorption of his knowledge and sharing it with others "on the way", but their further development of his teaching. Such development as goes on in this network, for example, which is constantly developing and expanding, OSIT.

 

[Deleted member 4320]

Thanks for the session. Very interesting comments about Gurdjieff.
How can someone in 5D "be attentive to earth issues"?

Maybe it's that G. has some incarnations here yet, to complete certain lessons.

 

[Puma]

Session Date: June 21st 2014

Q: (L) Alright. Okay, the question on my mind: We have had in the last 10 days or 2 weeks or whatever a bunch of really odd tornadoes. There have been tornadoes appearing in places where tornadoes historically don't show up very often, if at all. Plus, there was a complete double-tornado with... What was it? It had multiple vortices?

(Kniall) There were two events. One was a twin tornado, and one was one tornado with multiple vortices.

(L) Okay. So, what all of this...

A: Remember "Day After Tomorrow" and the comments we made about the coming global superstorm some "time" ago. You are presently witnessing many of the things that will intensify as time goes forward. Ain't it awesome?!!

END OF SESSION

Awesome... here a preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_kj8EKhV3w

 

[Minas Tirith]

A: Remember "Day After Tomorrow" and the comments we made about the coming global superstorm some "time" ago.

A movie where the Ice Age occurs overnight ...

M.T.

 

[Dirgni]

Thanks for the session. Very interesting comments about Gurdjieff.
How can someone in 5D "be attentive to earth issues"?

Not seeing 5D from 3D does not necessarily mean that persons in 5D cannot see 3D IMHO. Maybe Gurdjieff is just interested in "earth issue" in a similar way like the C's?

 

[findit]

Thanks for the session! They are always thought provoking. Certainly the planet's weather is getting crazier as well as the actions of the police state and governments. It is truly interesting times we live in. Have to see what tomorrow brings. If the magnetic field over the US is weakening I can only imagine what is coming. If the fracking hasn't done enough damage I wonder what geological effects will take place. A global superstorm...if its anything like "The Day After Tomorrow" then this will be quite a view to watch and experience.

 

[Gawan]

Thanks for the session. Very interesting comments about Gurdjieff.
How can someone in 5D "be attentive to earth issues"?

Not seeing 5D from 3D does not necessarily mean that persons in 5D cannot see 3D IMHO. Maybe Gurdjieff is just interested in "earth issue" in a similar way like the C's?

I was understanding it in a similar way, that he just watched what was going on on 3d earth and then according to the C's "has gone to full contemplation preparatory to rebirth in 4D".

A short excerpt about 5D from the glossary:

Ra explains experience as consisting of equal parts of space/time and time/space. Space/time corresponds to incarnate life, with motion in space and no control on the flow of time. Time/space corresponds to between lives contemplation, with free motion in time but no means of affecting space, so at least for 3rd density souls.

Steiner explains the between lives state or astral world as being based on thought in the same manner as the physical world is based on matter. Time for the incarnate beings flows forward, time for the beings between lives flows in the opposite direction. Generally, Steiner sees spirit as guiding the present from the future, whereas matter reaches for the future from the past. Each moment of consciousness is thus a meeting of these two streams. Steiner describes in detail how a sort of mirroring of the past life occurs in the astral world, where one gets to see the self from the outside, through the eyes of all one has interacted with.

The Cassiopaeans describe 5th density as timeless, thus each between incarnations state is concurrent with every other such state. The contemplation may be instantaneous or eternal, depending on viewpoint. Fifth density may be a sort of showroom of all which may be possible, but realizing these possibilities for one's edification needs to be done from the density that is appropriate to the lesson.

 

[Ronnie]

Hey Gawan,
Tonight I was listening to Dr. Mercola on the Keto Diet and his skype guest Dr D'Agostino seems to have a little info on the natural production and release of new stem cells, starting around mile marker 1:37.

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Q: (Gawan) Okay, and next one: Do I have a chance to heal my diabetes?

A: Look into stem cells.

Q: (Gawan) Stem cells.

Stephen R. Thom, MD, PhD is the one doing the research, There must be a medical paper somewhere on it. I'm understanding it is with the keto diet.... The best to you....

 

[rs]

Hi. I have a general question for Laura:

I have noticed in the most recent transcripts that the sheer number of questions posed to the Cs has declined and that the general discussion amongst the participants has greatly increased. My "assumption" (yes, I know...) has been the following:

- the group in general is better able to parse current events within the context of past communications, and so "figure it out themselves"
- communication with the Cs has always been somewhat of a puzzle, with lots of bread crumbs, lots of "close" and very little direct and specific answers
- given the above two facts and the current state (of everything) there is little need to ask lots of questions because the ones they will answer are somewhat understood and the specific questions they will not answer.

Am I on the right track here?

Thanks

 

[Oxajil]

Thank you for sharing that Ronnie, I didn't know that hyperbaric oxygen could increase the release and production of stem cells! Combined with the ketogenic diet, it might speed up things much better and more efficient.

I found two interesting papers:

The Ketogenic Diet and Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy Prolong Survival in Mice with Systemic Metastatic Cancer

Results: KD alone significantly decreased blood glucose, slowed tumor growth, and increased mean survival time by 56.7%
in mice with systemic metastatic cancer. While HBO2T alone did not influence cancer progression, combining the KD with
HBO2T elicited a significant decrease in blood glucose, tumor growth rate, and 77.9% increase in mean survival time
compared to controls.

Conclusions: KD and HBO2T produce significant anti-cancer effects when combined in a natural model of systemic
metastatic cancer. Our evidence suggests that these therapies should be further investigated as potential non-toxic
treatments or adjuvant therapies to standard care for patients with systemic metastatic disease.

And The effect of hyperbaric oxygen therapy on blood vessel function in diabetes mellitus The authors of this paper go into explaining their hypotheses about how hyperbaric oxygen could possibly help people with diabetes (with regard to blood vessel function), but they also say: "In addition to the favorable effects, a raise in pO2 also leads to a raise of reactive oxygen species, what causes harmful oxidative stress. To find ways how to amplify the desirable effects, but to limit the toxic ones is also a problem that needs to be dealt with. Because clarification of the fundamental mechanisms is crucial for that as well, future investigations are required."

I attached the papers to this post.

 

[zhenqing]

Thank you chateau crew for another excellent session As always, much food for thought.

:) Thanks for another great session! German team toj, Toj, Toj!!! I guess next will be the polish group? ;)

Is there even the Polish group? I know there was one back in the days.

 

[Gawan]

Thank you for sharing that Ronnie, I didn't know that hyperbaric oxygen could increase the release and production of stem cells! Combined with the ketogenic diet, it might speed up things much better and more efficient.

I agree, thank you for sharing Ronnie.

 

[Cleo]

Thank you for the session and for the interesting discussion following it. The part in the session about geological activity reminds me of the tsunami and cometary dream I had this morning. I'm thinking it may have largely been influenced by reading this session. Reminder to go write it down.

Thanks again.