Session 22 February 2010

[Tina]

It show us how they feed on our weakness when we live a mechanical existence, how open to attack we are when we have not yet learned what true love is.

Yeah, that's a good point I think. This is what happens in the absence of love. Love and truth don't live in this relationship because denial and manipulation live there instead.

As the C's said "It should be a lesson to many; it is also a tale as old as time." Plug in the program and hit the play button. :(

 

[StandingOnTheEdge]

I am so sorry about you all having to experience this horrible episode, and I pray for your speedy recovery. I thank you for your heart and bravery in sharing it with all of us, because the lessons being taught are invaluable.

I feel like I'm imposing, but when I read your first and second posts, Laura, a bunch of questions came to my mind, but I felt that they were on the inconsiderate side, so I've waited a day to see if I can phrase them without being offensive. (I hope it worked!)

I have not spent the proper amount of time in reading all the posts, but in skimming them, I feel the need to ask:
What were the sensations in your bodies when you first became suspicious of Sue's motives? How did these thoughts manifest themselves from your external/physical selves? What were the first sensations that you got when the flu bug first entered you? When you get a psychic feeling, what's it like? Where does it come from? When a suspicious thought does manifest itself, what is the trigger in your mind to discount it and decide to be polite and socially considerate?

The morning before I read this post, on my way up the hill to my office, I got a distinct sensation that I wanted to turn around and go back home. I weighed in on the sensation, and suddenly an energy that I interpreted to be feminine descended from the top of my head and gave me the feeling that everything would be alright, but I felt it with sorrow. I arrived to not only read your post, but I received news of the death from a brain tumor of one of my beloved cousins.

Twice this season I have successfully warded off the flu by sensing its presence on the right side of my throat. As soon as I felt it, I Reikied myself, and the dull ache and scratchiness disappeared. I'm wondering if there is any correlation to your physical manifestations. All of this energy still seems so very subtle; there's no hammer to the head by any outward sign.

I would love to find out if any of your sensations of impending danger is common to us, or does it come from different places, or is there a commonality to the warnings we receive that can make us aware of danger.

Thank you for any of your thoughts.

 

[cholas]

Echoing thanks. The potential lessons to be learned are invaluable. Greatly appreciated.

After reading thru this thread my attitude has changed from sympathy/concern/feeling sorry for the Trio(duo anyway) to one of indifference.

I'm not so optimistic mainly because we don't have the kind of time available for him to "get it."

Maybe the brutal truth. A kind of ''You can lead a horse to water......''

I salute all of you there on the receiving end of this most recent attack-of-sorts. :(

Hope your recovery is swift and smooth.

 

[Laurentien2]

Posté par: slowone

I find it scary. I was thinking last night could Sue do anything to "overcome" a physical implant even if she wanted to? Could any of us? What if I, or my husband has unbeknown to us programming or implants just waiting to be used against us/the other when the mood takes the PTB?

I think that by practicing self observation diligently, you minimize that possibility and also continuing searching for knowledge and networking. Know yourself, these 2 words, for me, are what one must constantly seek to do and always being aware that a program can sneak in at any moment.

 

[dannybananny]

Thanks for session! :)

i just wanted to point out to anyone who is single and feeling unhappy about it or the need to 'do' something about it:
there is probably a reason why society at large places so much importance on being in a relationship/getting married/hooking up with someone!
think about it! you get bombarded with it almost non-stop (even worse for women)!
or the look you sometimes get when you tell people you aren't in a relationship!

it's the perfect vehicle to inject chaos into people's lives.

and also consider how much of your desire to 'find someone' is purely motivated by STS thinking.

if you're 'meant' to find your soulmate or love of your life, I'm pretty sure he/she will show up without you having to prostitute yourself on dating websites or going 'on the prowl' in local clubs.

I agree completely with you, people go into relationship because they don't want to be alone, they're scared of that but by accepting it you become free of it, really ironic. Most of relationships are based on addiction and people are behaving to their partners like they are their possession, I can see that in my sister relationship, it only tells you how you're dependent on outside world and don't have control over you, and there is sex, people say all the time it isn't about sex but it is because they wouldn't do it if it wasn't about it, it's human weakness or better to say that is that left part of our brain with reptilian genetics. It's said that Bob was desperate to find someone and I think that should have been first alarm, I too was in past sad because of that but when I got some knowledge I become free in that area and don't care about that anymore, if we were ment to have someone then we wouldn't be born single. It's good to find someone but that someone needs to be on your vibration and understand you and not try to control you. First I have to become myself then other things come in place. Didn't C's say that no sex is the highway to 4D! I don't think you need implants to react like Sue, ego is enough, i can see that on my family(always there is someone else fault, pity, anger, projection of something that wasn't thought by other person, illusion that you're better then someone, never happy what ever you do, high appreciation for self, need to control you), this is really toxic and does damage, and has serious consequences. Once you have been bitten by it it takes lot of time to get rid of it, I can sometimes feel anger because of that (on top of my head which is strange to me because people sense it in their chest area) and I'am conscious that it's ego and how it's far from reality and objectivity, in the end we are all former victims of victims but we have choice to be victim in the future or be what we truly are.

Also, what comes to my mind is the case of Orage and how he was lead away from the Work when he feel in "love" with a woman.

It reminds me about the story about Samson and Dalila, what you can't do with sword do it with women.

 

[Navigator]

Very sad indeed, I do share the opinion that he was her food, and she was fighting for it.

So "Bob" was a long time member of QFG and training to be an EE teacher. Certainly EE didn't help him to see, I wonder why it wasn't helping, or not helping enough with his souls scars. It had to do with the way she was hijacking the effort? or maybe he wasn't doing it the right way, or as frequent as recommended?

 

[Laura]

In a way it is the ultimate sacrifice that Bob made, His fall has highlighted a serious issue that all of us I am sure will be much more wary of. I hoped too that maybe he would return, but reading Laura's last post and Gurdjieffs observations Say's probably no.

But then who knows with the EE and our progress perhaps??

Sacrifice to what?

 

[Laura]

What were the sensations in your bodies when you first became suspicious of Sue's motives? How did these thoughts manifest themselves from your external/physical selves? What were the first sensations that you got when the flu bug first entered you? When you get a psychic feeling, what's it like? Where does it come from? When a suspicious thought does manifest itself, what is the trigger in your mind to discount it and decide to be polite and socially considerate?

I'll try to answer these questions in the morning. It's late now and we have stormy weather and I could be knocked off an any second.

 

[Gimpy]

Very sad indeed, I do share the opinion that he was her food, and she was fighting for it.

So "Bob" was a long time member of QFG and training to be an EE teacher. Certainly EE didn't help him to see, I wonder why it wasn't helping, or not helping enough with his souls scars. It had to do with the way she was hijacking the effort? or maybe he wasn't doing it the right way, or as frequent as recommended?

It can be something as simple as free will....no one is going to make/force another to do anything here. Its up to Bob whom he chooses, and that he's done, what else is there but to honor that choice and let go now?

Apologies if sharing my own experience with my brother in law and his wife appeared to be harsh. In hindsight it can come off that way, and it isn't what I meant. As much as these events can hurt, isn't it better to let go than try to 'get through' to the person, and make it worse?

 

[Laura]

Very sad indeed, I do share the opinion that he was her food, and she was fighting for it.

So "Bob" was a long time member of QFG and training to be an EE teacher. Certainly EE didn't help him to see, I wonder why it wasn't helping, or not helping enough with his souls scars. It had to do with the way she was hijacking the effort? or maybe he wasn't doing it the right way, or as frequent as recommended?

Obviously because he wasn't doing it and neither was she. She was the one who was enthusiastic about teaching EE. It is obvious that this was a bid for a position of power over others. That is why we have the training videos and the critiques. It weeds out the pathologicals. It was clear in their presentations that they didn't know the material very well (he knew it better than she did) and you can't NOT know it if you have done it again and again and again.

Interacting on the internet is good up to a point, and VERY good for some things, but there's just nothing like an extended, face to face meeting.

 

[Mixtli]

Very interesting session. A lot to digest. I always eagerly wait for the end of the month to read the transcript of the most recent session. Thanks Laura and team.

 

[slowone]

In a way it is the ultimate sacrifice that Bob made, His fall has highlighted a serious issue that all of us I am sure will be much more wary of. I hoped too that maybe he would return, but reading Laura's last post and Gurdjieffs observations Say's probably no.

But then who knows with the EE and our progress perhaps??

Sacrifice to what?

He sacrificed his chance, his moment of choice I think. I was thinking of all the things he has walked away from.He has sacrificed probably his only chance of being part of this forum and the unique opportunities for growth it offers. To be part of a concious effort to thwart the machinations of the forces of STS to enslave humanity forever.

He has sacrificed maybe his very soul. I didn't mean sacrifice in a noble way but I can't think of a bigger sacrifice in terms of what he has given up. I was thinking of what being part of this forum means to me and how awful it must be to be so involved in everything that you are all doing but then to walk away. Maybe sacrifice was the wrong word, maybe it's not the ultimate sacrifice but the ultimate loss that I was trying to grasp.

 

[Laura]

He sacrificed his chance, his moment of choice I think. I was thinking of all the things he has walked away from.He has sacrificed probably his only chance of being part of this forum and the unique opportunities for growth it offers. To be part of a concious effort to thwart the machinations of the forces of STS to enslave humanity forever.

He has sacrificed maybe his very soul. I didn't mean sacrifice in a noble way but I can't think of a bigger sacrifice in terms of what he has given up. I was thinking of what being part of this forum means to me and how awful it must be to be so involved in everything that you are all doing but then to walk away. Maybe sacrifice was the wrong word, maybe it's not the ultimate sacrifice but the ultimate loss that I was trying to grasp.

I see what you mean. It's kind of like the story Illion wrote about the underground city and his choice there. If ya'll haven't read it, do read "Darkness Over Tibet."

 

[Learner]

I also want to thank you for the session, Laura and Team. I also hope, you are all doing better now from the bug and the fall.

I understand, that it has been hard for you to make it open to the public here. But I honestly thank you, Laura, that you have done it anyway. There's lots to ponder about; by reading this, some of my personal experiences came into my mind. I will keep this example and what man/woman can learn from it in mind; much to process, but some wisdom one can gain from it, if he/she wants - wisdom, that can protect in the future, if similar incidents will occur. It is a reminder to stay aware and alert.

Thank you agin :)

@Laura: "Darkness over Tibet" has been put on my reading list now (I am also curious as I study Tibetology).

 

[slowone]

He sacrificed his chance, his moment of choice I think. I was thinking of all the things he has walked away from.He has sacrificed probably his only chance of being part of this forum and the unique opportunities for growth it offers. To be part of a concious effort to thwart the machinations of the forces of STS to enslave humanity forever.

He has sacrificed maybe his very soul. I didn't mean sacrifice in a noble way but I can't think of a bigger sacrifice in terms of what he has given up. I was thinking of what being part of this forum means to me and how awful it must be to be so involved in everything that you are all doing but then to walk away. Maybe sacrifice was the wrong word, maybe it's not the ultimate sacrifice but the ultimate loss that I was trying to grasp.

I see what you mean. It's kind of like the story Illion wrote about the underground city and his choice there. If ya'll haven't read it, do read "Darkness Over Tibet."

Yes, I think also that Carlos Casteneda mentioned each person having a "Cubic Centimetre of chance" and that if you didn't grasp it when it came to you then it never came again. How many eons will he have to wait before it comes round again? Who knows.