Session 22 February 2010

Thank you very much for the session and sharing the Bob&Sue experience. It's hard to believe the numerous ways, Cass group gets attacked by the consortium. It's a lesson for everyone to remember that if you ever get a chance to meet with Laura and team, external consideration is paramount and leave all your internal consideration home. Though this is something to be practiced while meeting anyone in general. Tbh I don't consider myself to be doing much work to be a threat to the consortium but still have had to fight off mind battles with relatives at various junctures to keep myself protected. I have already identified some highly ponerised individuals in our family and now learning to deal with them via material on this forum and recommended books.

Bob would do well to see the light of the day but then again, Sue seems to have a pretty tight spell on him. He would have done well to leave her home with the young toddler but alas! looks like he has been had!

And I sincerely hope y'all recovered now, not the best of feeling if everyone comes down sick in such cold winter.Reminded me of back home in cold winters with no electricity and trying to keep our sick old granny warm enough.

-Sid
 
This morning as I lay awake trying to recall my dreams. I could only remember this item and it was the number 23. So with that I turned to session transcript's search engine to find what it might say that might provide a clue to issues I struggle with at the moment.
I entered 23 in the search engine and found 26 responses to the enquiry to the number 23. The very first session in the search pulled this date, July 23 1994 and thus this information: This was the first offering. And the very last session contained this passage session 2-23-02. Interesting both seem relevant considering what has been brought to light from the latest session! :Note to moderator's feel free to edit if you feel its all abit to long. "Thank you"

July 23, 1994 about 10:30 p.m. F**, Laura and S** We had drawn several Reiki symbols and placed them under the board and were quietly pronouncing the names of the symbols which were purported to 'increase power' and act as an 'ether tube connector.' Three very loud and close thunderclaps were heard directly above the house which caused the building to shake. We jumped up, ran outside to see if there was a storm nearby, but no clouds were in the sky at that time. We returned to the table and proceeded.
Q: Hello.
A: Hello.
Q: Is anyone with us?
A: Listen, Look, Learn.
Q: (L) What is your name?
A: Ellaga.
Q: (L) Are you discarnate from earth?
A: No. Alien.
Q: (L) Are you from another galaxy?
A: No.
Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) Is this the constellation we know as Cassiopaea?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What can we do for a better connection?
A: Less noise. (We shut the door)
Q: (L) Do you have information for us this evening?
A: Space invasion soon. Four to six years. Battle between forces good and evil. Wait near. Look far. Listen. Mexico falls; Ethiopia quakes; September both will happen. Near January: Paris bomb; London Blizzard, 109 die; Plane down in Tahiti; Cholera in Montana January. Government of U.S. behind California Quakes. Three soon. Oklahoma political abduction in February. Big news.
Q: (L) What is causing the earth changes?
A: Electromagnetic wave changes.
Q: (L) Can you be more specific?
A: Gap in surge heliographic field.
Q: (L) Is a meteor or comet going to hit earth?
A: Open.
Q: (L) What are the effects on us of the comet striking Jupiter?
A: Further field imbalance.
Q: (L) Was that comet meant for earth as some psychics are saying?
A: Open.
Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) Where do you live specifically?
A: Live in omnipresence.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: All realms.
Q: (L) Can you tell us what your environment is like?
A: Too difficult at this time.
Q: (L) Well take a stab at it.
A: What is a stab?
Q: (L) Do you serve self or others.
A: Both. Serve self through others.
Q: (L) S*** wants to know the details of her abductions.
A: Are you sure?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: Soon, vibrations not right at this time.
Q: (L) Does this mean S***'s vibrations are not right to receive this information?
A: Right.
Q: (L) Is there a tenth planet as described by Zecariah Sitchen?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was Venus ejected from Jupiter?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did Venus follow a cometary orbit for a time?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did Venus appear in our solar system, from the area of Jupiter, coming from deep space?
A: That is correct.
Q: (L) Was Venus the pillar of smoke by day and fire by night as seen by the Jews during the Exodus?
A: No.
Q: (L) What was seen by the Jews?
A: A Guide ship.
Q: (L) Were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed by nuclear weapons?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) How were they destroyed?
A: Electromagnetic pulse.
Q: (L) Was Jesus genetically engineered by Aliens?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Can you explain?
A: Too complex for the energies at the present.
Q: (L) Was Mary a true virgin when she gave birth?
A: No
Q: (L) Did she conceive in the normal way?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was Jesus genetically altered?
A: After birth and during childhood.
Q: (L) Was Jesus special, Christed as it is called, in any way?
A: Quick exalted to end the wars and civil entrancement; Zindar council.
Q: (L) What is the Zindar Council?
A: Two cycle exchangers mission.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: References vast. Must go. Good Night.

2-23-02

Ark, Laura, BT, RO, VG, J&MN

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Yes. Hello.
Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Fiilia.
Q: (L) And where do you transmit through?
A: Yes. Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) They're not use to having so many people. Alright who wants to start off? (group silence) Well then I'll start off! Did you have a question? (B) Is there any correlation to the names ending in "A" or sounding like "A" that has been discussed on the list? (L) Correlation to what? (B) The veracity of the source. (L) Ah!
A: Close, generates frequency.
Q: (B) Is the lack of that an indicator of anything?
A: Can be indicative of fractured energy.
Q: (V) Huh. (B) One of the people on the list had made an indication that the sessions that had seemed most accurate were delivered from a "name" that either end in an "A" or ended in a combination of vowels that had an "A" sound in the English language. At the same time, some of the sessions that seemed a bit off, including a consideration of Frank's involvement didn't have that. (L) Alright, ask your question V. (V) Is the DG that called me Dec.1 in fact my husband/ex-husband that I have not seen for 22 years?
A: Yes.
Q: (V) Wow.
A: Check records. Health issue.
Q: (V) He has a health issue?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well why else would he be calling you? (V) Is this a health issue that may have some genetic ramifications for my son?
A: No.
Q: (V) So, he's feeling really crappy about dissin' us for 22 years. I'm not asking, that's just...
A: No.
Q: (V) Why should that surprise me (laughter)! Well, should we...
A: Whiner.
Q: (V) Who's a whiner? I'm a whiner? (L) No. You asked about him. (V) Oh. Health issue...his health issue is whining? I'm still rushing from the fact that it was actually him that called. I'm going to be really honest - and I'm in a room full of strangers here that don't really know me - but my husband left when my son was a few months old and there was no support from that point in time, no financial support whatsoever. I've really wrestled with myself since Dec. 1. I've never called the number back and there was no message. A part of me wants to take him to Civil Court and...
A: Waste of time.
Q: (V) Okay. Is he remarried?
A: No.
Q: (V) He never filed for a divorce?
A: No.
Q: (J) You're still married to him. (V) I never divorced because I figured it was my safety clause--if I was married I couldn't do that again.
A: Fill life with joy at his absence.
Q: (V) Okay. (L) It could've been so much worse. (V) Oh I know, God! Good Lord, it was just a struggle, it wasn't a hammer on the head so...
A: Release and rejoice.
Q: (V) Is he dying?
A: Not yet (burst of laughter in the room).
Q: (J) Can I ask my question? (L) Go ahead. (DN) Are 'The Allies of Humanity' a valuable resource?
A: All is of value if examined with an open mind and proper perspective.
Q: (L) You can get more specific, you know: vague in, vague out. The hardest thing about the process is thinking about the question. (V) Well, just from reading the table of contents of this Allies of Humanity book, it looks like they're trying to define a lot of subject matter, they're trying to define what is God, what is... (DG) Spiritual.
A: Or from their perspective.
Q: (V) Where does the information emanate from?
A: Channeled.
Q: (V) Channeled by who? (JN) Channeled by Marshall Summers. (V) But who is it that is channeling through Marshall Summers? (JN) The Allies of Humanity. (V) You are missing my point. That's a name they give themselves. I want to know: what kind of source are they?
A: 4th density.
Q: (V) STS, STO?
A: STO predominates.
Q: (V) Well that's cool.
A: Keep in mind that the 4th density STO perspective has a tendency to exclude certain factors by virtue of choice of realm frequency. This means that the lesson profile of 4th density STO is to enhance the energy by association in networks that do not include ongoing contact with STS, and so their perspective is on the positive STO experience.
Q: (R) So they can choose realms as frequencies or such where they do not have contact with STS because STS are not of the same frequency. (L) At 4D, those who graduate to STO are working on enhancement of what is already a choice rather than the problem of making the choice. It's there, it's made, it's done. (R) This has to go back to the question that you started with about Allies from 4D because, it's "all is of value if examined with a open mind and proper perspective." From our perspective, any help that we would get from 4D STO includes the fact that we have to keep in mind that they don't have to deal with things that we do. (L) Right. (R) So any help that we get from them, we will have to add the extra context...(L) Of our reality.
A: First awareness of the choice comes. Then making the choice. Then enhancing the energy to graduate. The problem of 3rd density is identifying what to choose, since so much is veiled from you.
Q: (R) This goes right to the discussion we had on the egroup a couple of weeks ago, I think, when we said that there is so much that is possible, but if you don't know about it you won't choose it. How can you choose if you don't know about it? (B) The choice has to be made here before you can glean the benefits of that choice. (L) Right. If you don't know you have a choice you can't make a choice, if everything is...(R) It's like the gold fish in the bad water. (L) Yeah. Yeah, I mean you learn to exist in that environment and you accommodate it and you don't know how to be in any other. Okay, next. (R) Can I do some personal thing? It is about my now ex-girlfriend. I'm a little bit worried about her because she is really afraid of the dark and she doesn't want to talk about it really and I'm just really curious what the cause of it is.
A: When it becomes a sufficiently debilitating issue, she will talk about it.
Q: (JN) Is that a polite way of saying it's none of your business?
A: Perhaps the cause is the concern it engenders.
Q: (V) She's creating her own darkness? She's perpetuating her own...(J) Fear of the unknown. (R) Yes. Oh yes. Absolutely. (V) She's doing it to herself. In other words maybe it wasn't something like she was locked in a dark closet when she was a kid. (R) Actually that's what she says. (V) Oh (laughter)! (R) That's what she said. I just didn't believe her. It just seems so extreme that...(V) Have you met her parents? (R) Sure. (L) Would they do that? (R) No, no her kid brother locked her...(JN) Yeah I was going to say that sounds like something a brother would do. (V) My brother used to do some crappy stuff to me too (giggling). (R) Okay, so he chased her into the bathroom and closed the door and the light switch was on the outside. I was curious if that was really...(V) Yeah but there's more to it than just that. (R) So this seems to say that she perpetuates, she enhances that herself and until it becomes a real problem she'll have it. (L) Well it is a handy thing to have to get sympathy. (J) She's holding onto it for some reason (V) Drama, drama, drama. Very dramatic. It caused you to be dramatic towards her, didn't it? (R) Well, no, it is just, yeah, I always had to...(J) You had to leave the light on. (R) Exactly.
A: Shakespeare said it: Sound and fury signifying nothing.
Q: (L) I think we ought to check the whole quote at some point and see what all he was saying. I'm not a Shakespeare person. (V) From what work is this quote? (L) I just want you all to know I am not a Shakespeare fan so...knock it off (laughter as she speaks this to the board)! (V) Can you tell us what Shakespearean work this is from so it can be further...
A: Tempest.

[It's actually from Macbeth:

Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

The Tempest contains the following:

We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep.
 
Thank you again for bringing to us another session.

This was really heavy one. I still feel shaken and have knots in my stomach. I can not imagine what all of you must have felt through it all.

Ailén said:
and where to buy healthy flour ??
- online market ( ebay ?? ) ( i'm from Poland then better to buy online and send it, I dont see it at market )

Read here for ideas:http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12189.new;topicseen#new
"Kasza" is buckwheat.

Exact term for buckwheat is "kasza gryczana" but it is not the only kind of "kasza" here in Poland :) You can also buy buckwheat in flour form as "mąka gryczana".
Other kind of healty flour: rice flour - great for making pasta, dumplings dough etc(or in polish "do wyrobu makaronu, ciasta na pierogi").

I'm sure you find other things to do with those and more in above thread.

As for buying healthy food stuff just search in your town for health food grocery or health food stalls in super and hypermarkets. If you don't have time or are unable to do this then there are tons of Polish online stores with those things. I buy in my local health food store.

Ailén said:
I suggest you read more on the detox threads in the forum. Have you done the Ultra Simple Diet and the Anti-Candida diet?

This morning we made something very close to pizza. See here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=15947.msg141673#msg141673

Ohhhh looks good.
 
Laura said:
On top of that, one of the computers in the house got fried during the efforts to get the lights back on. (It belonged to my youngest daughter who is starting to learn video editing, so this was a real bummer.)

My company recently upgraded it's computers and they gave away the old ones to employees.
Anyway, I have an old Gateway laptop. I think its a Notebook 450. It looks like this:
http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/gateway-450/1707-3121_7-20909901.html

It has a Pentium 4 chip set 1.60c Ghz. It needs a hard drive. I have a photocopy of the old hard drive. It was an IBM Travelstar hard drive. I have the power chord, and a docking station with ethernet, printer, mouse ports, etc. I can turn it on and give more info if you need it. I am not sure how much work would be involved with making it workable in France, but I'd be happy to donate it for the budding film editor.
 
Oh my, this was a disturbing read. Much food for thought... After all the reading and the Wave books it still boggles my mind how easily one's thoughts and feelings can be used. It is profoundly disturbing.

Laura said:
Also, there was something I didn't mention: the crab walking. This was the strangest thing I've ever seen a child do.

I had a little toddler in one of my classes moving just like what you have described! I had never seen it in my life and found it very odd. He didn't have signs of any strange behaviour apart from that very strange way of moving, but his mother was concerned because she thought it could be a sign of dyslexia. Apparently her brother has severe dyslexia as well.
Now I am a little concerned, it's now been a few months since I last saw him. I will ask the mother how has he been doing.

Thank you for sharing this Laura, I really appreciate the fact that it surely wasn't an easy decision!
I hope you are all feeling better at the Chateau.
 
slowone said:
I find it scary. I was thinking last night could Sue do anything to "overcome" a physical implant even if she wanted to? Could any of us? What if I, or my husband has unbeknown to us programming or implants just waiting to be used against us/the other when the mood takes the PTB?

Well, taking in account the time travel capabilities of 4D STS beings, and the fact that we find ourselves here, in this community today, trying to wake up and act against the "occupation", then it is probable that anyone of us might have implants. There is also the bit in this session about Bob not having an implant because he fought it, and the C's also told Laura in the past that she fights it too, so we have that option, and it might be true for us especially now that we have the knowledge that we can fight back. I was one of the people that was scared everytime i read about details of alien abductions, it really made me sick (perhaps of unconscious memories?), but the possibility that knowledge provides us with the strength to fight back gave me personally the courage to continue reading and learning. I think that anger against the forces that use us so malevolently helps break through the fear too, and gives us the inner strength to continue fighting against our mechanical existence.

So, whether we have implants or not, because there are myriad of ways to have ones thoughts and emotions controlled both from within and without as illustrated in this situation, the most important thing is to network about our thoughts and emotions, and remember to refer back to all our experiences and the knowledge we acquired (both about ourselves and others) when uncertain about thoughts we have or how we feel. I know i sound too vague here, but an example that comes to mind to better illustrate what i mean is the first thoughts that usually enter my mind when i receive a mirror. I am first angry at the person who is mirroring myself back to me, and might feel like Sue did that the person is trying to embarrass and humiliate me in front of others. But then if i look back at all my previous interactions with that person, and see that he/she has been shown to me nothing but care and understanding, see that person's life and how they live it, the fruits of their actions, i would know that i am projecting. That will force me to take the mirror and look into it, no matter how painful it might be, because unless i do it, i'll never change and will continue to be that person that i could not bare see in the first place in the mirror.

And that is what Sue and Bob are doing, avoiding to see themselves as they are. And no matter how sorry i feel about their situation, and i am actually still digesting the whole experience, i can't but see the fruits of their actions as a result of choosing to not see the truth about themselves, implants involved or not. It's actually ironic that Bob did not have an implant because he fought it, but he can't fight against his illusions about his family life. I think it's a good example of Castanedas words, that the warriors have to learn to face their petty tyrants before they ever venture into the unknown worlds (something along those lines anyway).
 
This entire situation has had me thinking very deeply about a few things.

One- was my own “leave of absence” in regards to receiving mirror from the forum and no accepting the truth as it was. I acted like Bob, but deep down I left the possibility that what everyone was saying maybe right and that I was wrong. And because of that, I didn’t unsub or ask to be unsubed because I knew deep down that I cannot deny the work being put here is different than ANY other place I have ever seen. I realize how much I took away from my own self and self-growth by taking a leave and this is exactly what Bob is doing and most likely will go through once he realizes that his child IS autistic in a few years, and that the information that was given was for his best interest. And most likely he will regret leaving, but sadly by then it may be too late...

The other thing on my mind has been the topic of online dating.

Iconoclast said:
i just wanted to point out to anyone who is single and feeling unhappy about it or the need to 'do' something about it:
there is probably a reason why society at large places so much importance on being in a relationship/getting married/hooking up with someone!
think about it! you get bombarded with it almost non-stop (even worse for women)!
or the look you sometimes get when you tell people you aren't in a relationship!

it's the perfect vehicle to inject chaos into people's lives.

and also consider how much of your desire to 'find someone' is purely motivated by STS thinking.

if you're 'meant' to find your soulmate or love of your life, I'm pretty sure he/she will show up without you having to prostitute yourself on dating websites or going 'on the prowl' in local clubs.

I could not agree more!

My mom has been single for a long time and she has also been on this online dating because for her- the be all end all is to find ‘true love’ by any means necessary. I have told her that online dating is not great because who knows what kind of people are actually on it but she doesn’t listen to me.

Funny thing is- while being adamant about finding ‘true love’ she’s always contradicting it by saying how great it is to be single and self-dependent. So she always tells me to be self-dependent in case anything happens in my relationship. I tell her, true love to me is being co-dependent. Being dependent on your own ability is part of it, but being in a relationship means you both depend on each other for support. Not just financially, but emotionally and psychologically.

She’s currently dating someone she met on an online dating service- they’ve met a couple of times but he lives in the US (east coast) so I’ve never met him. But she’s gone to see him a few times. She says he’s a great guy and they have a “very deep soul connection” which goes over my head because I can’t understand how someone can have a “very deep soul connection” from meeting up twice for a couple of days and online interaction.
She also tells me how her friends keep asking her about her FB status of her relationship with the guy. Why both of them don’t have their status set to “in relationship with..” And how she should test him by changing her status to see if he does it too. Because that apparently defines how much in love they both are??! As if it even matters! This kind of talk always makes my head hurt.

I also think if you’re meant to find love and your soul mate, it will show up when you’re least expecting and not looking for it.
 
Hildegarda said:
Crawling is the single most important predictor for developmental issues. A child can be a late or early walker, or a late or early talker -- it doesn't matter, as long as he/she sits up by the age of 6 months there isn't much else to go by other then that. There was a recent study by one professor who looked at video tapes of autistic children and saw a lot of uncoordinated crawling just like the one described above. You really want to see right-left hand-leg coordination in crawling by this age especially. But -- this is common knowledge among educational psychologists, early ed teachers and special ed teachers; there are whole therapy methods built around promoting these skills in young kids (e.g., Brain Gym), it's even TOLD to parents by pediatricians now! The fact that Sue is a special ed teacher and didn't take notice of that is mind-boggling, that's serious denial.

Crawling is also necessary to develop the visual system. It is crawling, the baby putting his nose up close to objects, that develops the visual pathways for proper focusing. Parents are told to encourage their children to first crawl, not walk. This developmental step is vital. It would be interesting to see the refractive errors of autistic children. On top of everything else, their eyes are likely not working or developing normally eiher!
 
Deedlet said:
I’m also BAFFLED at the fact of Bob being so adamant about wanting a baby. Even after they could not conceive and had to resort to InVitro Fertilization- and still be unsuccessful but keep trying nonetheless. If it were me- I would have taken it as a sign from the universe that I’m not supposed to have children at this time.
I've thought about this point a lot since I read this session, and by the way, many thanks Laura and team for publishing it.

It occurs to me that it is one thing to know about the state of things, and the likely outcomes in the next few years but it is another thing altogether to internalise it and make it yours.

When you say - "we am not going to have a baby as there is no good reason to bring somebody into this hellish place and we know the score about what is in our future" - and you act on it, suddenly it makes it all terribly REAL. In other words, up until the time you take a really serious and life-changing decision based on the data you have learned about and developed hypotheses about, it is still somewhat ethereal.

This decision makes it REAL, concrete, no longer just an abstract thought that we discuss and gather data about, this means you are committed to what you are learning about. This means you feel that the chances of it being true and the things we discuss happening are great. And maybe that is really scary for some people.
 
Thank you to all for this session
WHAT A VALUABLE LESSON THIS IS.....I have been thru similiar draining destructive relationships in the past.
Thank you for this information. Much food for thought...
Hoping you are all making a speedy recovery.....
 
Evey said:
...
WHAT A VALUABLE LESSON THIS IS.....I have been thru similiar draining destructive relationships in the past.
Thank you for this information. Much food for thought...
...
Evey, have you seen the "Narcissism Big Five" reading list in Recommended Books from the QFS? Also the topic Recapitulation. You might start there. There is so much to learn about "draining destructive relationships."
 
Thank God you all are Ok, or rather to say thank your awareness, it´s good to hear from the C´s that the handling of the situation you did mitigate the possible damage, though anyway was a terrible experience. Just to read this session left me with a feeling of gloom, so i can´t even imagine how Laura and the team experienced sucha thing. What a drag. And top it off with the earthquake in Chile, damn it!
Hope you all recover soon, i am sure you will overcome this lesson.

Best wishes.
 
Menrva said:
I am not sure how much work would be involved with making it workable in France, but I'd be happy to donate it for the budding film editor.

Even if it could be upgraded, it wouldn't do the job. Video editing requires a LOT of processing power.
 
Laura said:
Menrva said:
I am not sure how much work would be involved with making it workable in France, but I'd be happy to donate it for the budding film editor.

Even if it could be upgraded, it wouldn't do the job. Video editing requires a LOT of processing power.
I don't know what is available in France, or how readily you can go to Costco in France ( ;D) but I went to Costco and purchased Tripp-Lite UPS backup power supplies for $100 for each of my computers (I have more than one). They are cheap, work well and keep the computer stuff running through the occasional power glitch (either from the power company or if I have to fiddle with the circuit box).

These UPS devices not only provide short term help through power glitches, they also provide some buffering and shielding from powerline disturbances of all kinds. The intent is not to "survive" long periods of time off grid, but if the power goes out for a moment, you don't notice and if the power goes out for an extended period, you have time to take the computer down gracefully. If you had one, maybe it would have made a difference in this case, maybe not, but either way, the investment for such a thing is relatively small and I would recommend it. Depending on what you have (WAN/LAN modem, monitor, etc) you may need more than one as they are only good for 600 watts or so.

You *do* have everything already plugged into a high quality surge protector, right? :D
 
This is in reference to the special antagonism that was faced by Laura recently.

I would like to quote a section from Barbara Hort's Unholy Hungers regarding the archetype of the female vampire and male victim. Hort writes that to deactivate the female vampire archetype, an awareness of its nature is critical but not sufficient. A positive feminine power is needed for successful deactivation of this archetype.

[quote author=B.Hort, Unholy Hungers,pg 148]
Once again, we touch the positive Great Feminine whenever we feel safe in the world, whenever we feel accepted and appreciated just as we are. When we are connected with the Great Feminine, we know that the feminine vampire's directives are not answers, that her contrived grooming of us is not real comfort, that her possessiveness is not protection, and that her ravenous surveillance is not love.
[/quote]
In relationships where these archetypes of female vampire and male victim are activated, the appearance of a representation of the Great Feminine archetype is very likely to cause a severe reaction. For the female vampire archetype, this is like potential loss of food leading to an existential anxiety and that archetype would lash out with all its strength and try to keep its victim away from contact with the Great Feminine.
Most of our earthly relationships are feeding relationships until we wake up. So these archetypes are quite routinely activated imo. I have observed some cases of extreme emotional reaction against Laura which seem to follow the archetypal pattern mentioned above which led to this hypothesis. Laura off course was not personally involved in these cases and could have done nothing specifically to elicit such a response - except for being the author of some books which was being read by one of the two members involved in the whole episode.
There is also the other possibility that the above archetypal hypothesis is wrong in those cases which I observed. It was perhaps the relationship between the two partners were subconsciously strained and the emotional outburst against Laura was just a coincidence. Laura and other members close to her would perhaps have a much greater amount of data to validate or invalidate the above hypothesis.
fwiw
 
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