Session 22 March 2014

SeekinTruth said:
I keep thinking about the way Putin/Russia stood up to the global criminals (as they've done in the past). I keep getting the feeling that re-balancing things on the planet by human actions, they are increasing the likelihood that Mother Nature will not need to re-balance things in as violent a way as it could have been necessary to do so without the human efforts....

Don't hold your breath.
 
Laura said:
Q: (L) So, what does the point of this little introduction about health, other than what was just said... Did they say harm? So, there are directed attacks going on against us at the present time like with some kind of EM or electronic devices or something that's supposed to harm our health?

A: Yes.
I cannot understand at all why Reptilians or Illuminati would want gradually to impair your health instead of killing you immediately.
 
alteroru486 said:
Laura said:
Q: (L) So, what does the point of this little introduction about health, other than what was just said... Did they say harm? So, there are directed attacks going on against us at the present time like with some kind of EM or electronic devices or something that's supposed to harm our health?

A: Yes.
I cannot understand at all why Reptilians or Illuminati would want gradually to impair your health instead of killing you immediately.

I am of the opinion that the reasons are many. Firstly, psychologically speaking humans in general appear to be more passive and thus easier to control when their mental or physical health is impaired. Our brains are lazy and will except ideas, even if they are false, if it prevents the need for mental effort. Thinking Fast and slow goes into this in detail ( speaking more about our cognitive laziness than the former notion). This is what also makes diet, and stress control important. fwiw.

Secondly, if the claim that once you are in 5th Density or "the contemplation zone" one cannot be tampered with or used for food, then it would make sense that you are more useful alive and here rather than in some ethereal existence that would make you untouchable for 4D STS.

Lastly, there is the concept that they (being 4D STS entities) feed off of pain suffering and that can take many forms. Mentally, physically, or psychically. Given these parameters or constrictions I think it makes sense from their perspective to slowly feed off of you with as much pain as possible without killing you all together. That way they would maximize their food intake. If they simply killed you dead that is just a one time event.

I guess you could also think of it as farming in a way. Crops are not just grown and immediately consumed they are stored carefully. To lengthen their usefulness. Same with livestock. They are taken care, cultivated and bred so that they can later be eaten. As opposed to killing them all as soon as they become adults.
 
trendsetter37 said:
alteroru486 said:
Laura said:
Q: (L) So, what does the point of this little introduction about health, other than what was just said... Did they say harm? So, there are directed attacks going on against us at the present time like with some kind of EM or electronic devices or something that's supposed to harm our health?

A: Yes.
I cannot understand at all why Reptilians or Illuminati would want gradually to impair your health instead of killing you immediately.

I am of the opinion that the reasons are many. Firstly, psychologically speaking humans in general appear to be more passive and thus easier to control when their mental or physical health is impaired. Our brains are lazy and will except ideas, even if they are false, if it prevents the need for mental effort. Thinking Fast and slow goes into this in detail ( speaking more about our cognitive laziness than the former notion). This is what also makes diet, and stress control important. fwiw.

Secondly, if the claim that once you are in 5th Density or "the contemplation zone" one cannot be tampered with or used for food, then it would make sense that you are more useful alive and here rather than in some ethereal existence that would make you untouchable for 4D STS.

Lastly, there is the concept that they (being 4D STS entities) feed off of pain suffering and that can take many forms. Mentally, physically, or psychically. Given these parameters or constrictions I think it makes sense from their perspective to slowly feed off of you with as much pain as possible without killing you all together. That way they would maximize their food intake. If they simply killed you dead that is just a one time event.

I guess you could also think of it as farming in a way. Crops are not just grown and immediately consumed they are stored carefully. To lengthen their usefulness. Same with livestock. They are taken care, cultivated and bred so that they can later be eaten. As opposed to killing them all as soon as they become adults.

All right but some people such as Laura are more important than the others and leaving them alive would endanger Reptilians plan.
 
That has to do with their wishful thinking, they just assume things will go
the way they want them to. The C's said that in 4D wishful thinking actually becomes
the reality you're living in, so you can see how that might interfere with their plans.
The question has been covered in the Wave series, have you read them alteroru?
 
Keeping Laura alive makes too big risk for Reptilians whereas their gain is too little. That is all very peculiar. It seems Reptilians are not "allowed" to do every possible harm to us. But "who" decides what is allowed and what is not? As I have read, killing Laura would direct Reptilians into a more negative timeline. So there are some rules in the universe that we do not know.
 
alteroru486 said:
Keeping Laura alive makes too big risk for Reptilians whereas their gain is too little. That is all very peculiar. It seems Reptilians are not "allowed" to do every possible harm to us. But "who" decides what is allowed and what is not? As I have read, killing Laura would direct Reptilians into a more negative timeline. So there are some rules in the universe that we do not know.

The more you read of the wave, and the sessions posted here with all the replies on the forum the more it starts to make sense. at least this is how it is for me.

A question i have about Putin, and i'm not sure if this was addressed, so i apologize if it was, but what is up with the restrictions to gay people in Russia?
 
davey72 said:
alteroru486 said:
Keeping Laura alive makes too big risk for Reptilians whereas their gain is too little. That is all very peculiar. It seems Reptilians are not "allowed" to do every possible harm to us. But "who" decides what is allowed and what is not? As I have read, killing Laura would direct Reptilians into a more negative timeline. So there are some rules in the universe that we do not know.

The more you read of the wave, and the sessions posted here with all the replies on the forum the more it starts to make sense. at least this is how it is for me.

A question i have about Putin, and i'm not sure if this was addressed, so i apologize if it was, but what is up with the restrictions to gay people in Russia?

There's a bunch of articles on SOTT that you can find using the search function. Here's one of them: http://www.sott.net/article/272586-Western-propaganda-Putin-interviewed-on-anti-gay-laws

And another: http://www.sott.net/article/273333-Wests-Russians-hate-gays-propaganda-is-so-blatant-even-Russias-chief-gay-rights-activist-speaks-out-against-it
 
Laura said:
SeekinTruth said:
I keep thinking about the way Putin/Russia stood up to the global criminals (as they've done in the past). I keep getting the feeling that re-balancing things on the planet by human actions, they are increasing the likelihood that Mother Nature will not need to re-balance things in as violent a way as it could have been necessary to do so without the human efforts....

Don't hold your breath.

I wouldn't count on any deliverance of the world from destruction. Putin is interesting person and he's very valuable in counterweight to the psychopaths on the positions of power, but I wouldn't see him as savior of the world. In my opinion, Putin and what happened recently, Ukraine, Crimea and what was going on was such as a wake-up call, the gift for sleeping people. I didn't neglect in the noise, bring a bit of Putin and Russia to my little environment. People can compare what politicians said and make conclusions. For example, in my country (Poland) many pathological expressions happend and senseless decision made. You can draw conclusions to who they are and what their true intentions are.

In a sense Putin is like messiah. C's used named "Komessias" what can be interpreted as Come Messiah, maybe as a hint to Putin. However, as always, people need to recognize who is who on their own, complete the lessons. A bit narrowing what is happening, at the moment, it's a little bit like decide "Obama or Putin, what you choose?"
 
lux said:
Laura said:
SeekinTruth said:
I keep thinking about the way Putin/Russia stood up to the global criminals (as they've done in the past). I keep getting the feeling that re-balancing things on the planet by human actions, they are increasing the likelihood that Mother Nature will not need to re-balance things in as violent a way as it could have been necessary to do so without the human efforts....

Don't hold your breath.

I wouldn't count on any deliverance of the world from destruction. Putin is interesting person and he's very valuable in counterweight to the psychopaths on the positions of power, but I wouldn't see him as savior of the world. In my opinion, Putin and what happened recently, Ukraine, Crimea and what was going on was such as a wake-up call, the gift for sleeping people. I didn't neglect in the noise, bring a bit of Putin and Russia to my little environment. People can compare what politicians said and make conclusions. For example, in my country (Poland) many pathological expressions happend and senseless decision made. You can draw conclusions to who they are and what their true intentions are.

In a sense Putin is like messiah. C's used named "Komessias" what can be interpreted as Come Messiah, maybe as a hint to Putin. However, as always, people need to recognize who is who on their own, complete the lessons. A bit narrowing what is happening, at the moment, it's a little bit like decide "Obama or Putin, what you choose?"

Just to clarify, I didn't mean to imply that Putin (or anyone else) was a "savior of the world." What I was trying to get at is that Putin's actions may create possibilities for others to stand up to tyranny and human suffering in ways that can somewhat balance things more on the planet. And that this could make it possible to have more pockets of survivors better positioned and with a certain orientation (having stood against the worldwide tyranny) for what comes after the cyclical cataclysms that have occurred throughout history we've been studying.

ADDED: If that has some accuracy/truth, then it can be seen as the violence and destruction to re-balance / cleanse coming from the Cosmos / Nature will have made the survivors and aftermath in better conditions, so to speak, to create a new world out of the shambles of the old.
 
SeekinTruth said:
lux said:
Laura said:
SeekinTruth said:
I keep thinking about the way Putin/Russia stood up to the global criminals (as they've done in the past). I keep getting the feeling that re-balancing things on the planet by human actions, they are increasing the likelihood that Mother Nature will not need to re-balance things in as violent a way as it could have been necessary to do so without the human efforts....

Don't hold your breath.

I wouldn't count on any deliverance of the world from destruction. Putin is interesting person and he's very valuable in counterweight to the psychopaths on the positions of power, but I wouldn't see him as savior of the world. In my opinion, Putin and what happened recently, Ukraine, Crimea and what was going on was such as a wake-up call, the gift for sleeping people. I didn't neglect in the noise, bring a bit of Putin and Russia to my little environment. People can compare what politicians said and make conclusions. For example, in my country (Poland) many pathological expressions happend and senseless decision made. You can draw conclusions to who they are and what their true intentions are.

In a sense Putin is like messiah. C's used named "Komessias" what can be interpreted as Come Messiah, maybe as a hint to Putin. However, as always, people need to recognize who is who on their own, complete the lessons. A bit narrowing what is happening, at the moment, it's a little bit like decide "Obama or Putin, what you choose?"

Just to clarify, I didn't mean to imply that Putin (or anyone else) was a "savior of the world."

Sorry, my overinterpretation.

SeekinTruth said:
What I was trying to get at is that Putin's actions may create possibilities for others to stand up to tyranny and human suffering in ways that can somewhat balance things more on the planet. And that this could make it possible to have more pockets of survivors better positioned and with a certain orientation (having stood against the worldwide tyranny) for what comes after the cyclical cataclysms that have occurred throughout history we've been studying.

It possible but I think just smaller groups or even just single units make use of this as opportunity to learn and come to some new conclusions. This can be too little and meaningless considering the entire planet and possible changes in reducing cataclysms and everyone will be "swirled" without exception. But I can't really know that. Probably only the Wave gives real hope to avoiding disasters.
 
We can only hope that we all will be moved to the 4D soon or otherwise I cannot imagine living here in 3d occupied by Reptilians. And by the way I am from Poland too just as Ark (Arkadiusz Jadczyk) and some people writing to this forum.
 
To go 4D there does not mean future STO, but can be STS and stay under the yoke of reptiliens in a more explicit way.
 
I know that the Wave will move both STO and STS people but I doubt that I am STS as I have always been very empathic since I was very young and wanted unconditionally to help out people. Money means very little to me. More likely I shall not be moved and stay in 3D, which the idea I do not like at all.
 
alteroru486 said:
We can only hope that we all will be moved to the 4D soon or otherwise I cannot imagine living here in 3d occupied by Reptilians. And by the way I am from Poland too just as Ark (Arkadiusz Jadczyk) and some people writing to this forum.

Well, as explained in the Knowledge and Being videos, changing one's reality is not a matter of just "being moved". That kind of idea turns the Universe into some kind of "external savior" in a monotheistic or New Age-like way, kind of like the Christian "rapture". (Just replace "heaven" with "4D STO" and there's no difference.) Instead, it's a matter of people working together and collectively becoming the reality of a different future - choice by choice, with each change being quite concrete. A group may then collectively become kind of like one 4D being. Then, beyond that point, who knows how things work? None of us, I would say.
 
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