Session 23 January 2016

It's interesting how so many here are describing their reaction to Diana's death and it was the same for me as well. I never paid any attention to her what-so-ever, no interest really in what she was doing although I recognized her good work in various causes. I remember the day she died so clearly, and I was surprised by the sadness I felt and cried. Here was a person I'd never felt a connection to but I was full of remorse for her passing....it was strange. And now others say the same thing here, I think its interesting. What is behind that I wonder... a wave of grief encircled the planet it seemed.
 
Quote re This Queen Elizabeth serious illness, blood related... - as mentioned in the transcript 21 years ago

I try hard to reconcile that with a woman approaching her 90th birthday and the fact I have never seen her having been declared ill.
 
Lilou said:
I watched a documentary about her death many years ago. They interviewed first responders and ER doctors. They said the type of injury Diana had was like the injury President Ronald Reagan sustained when he was shot by Hinckley. And if the ambulance had done a "grab and go" straight to the hospital, she could have been saved. Instead, they tried to stabilize her at the scene (which they said was standard protocol in France, whereas in the US, they tend to "grab and go"). It took nearly 1 hour for Diana to be put in the ambulance, and another 40 minutes more to reach a hospital, when it should have been 15 minutes or less. It's like they kept her on the side of the road until they were sure she'd not survive. :cry:

Elton John's remake of Candle in the Wind for Diana still makes me tear up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Efz3s7QiM8


With all respect Lilou that information was more than likely disinformation.

I've been on vehicle accidents similar in nature. At those speeds (given that vehicle Curb weight is 1,880 kg (4,145 lb), coupled with impact of hitting a solid object (the concrete pillar) and the release of kinetic energy alone would been similar of a plane crash.

Both Dodi Fayed and well admired Princess Diana, were not wearing there seat belt's (as i understand). This would have created massive internal injuries, and blunt force trauma to many of the vital internal organs. This alone was more than likely a condition that would have been non-reparable. Even by the most skilled surgeon's. Let alone adding internal bleeding. Were talking a real clinical view of reality and it would have taken a miracle to have come out any other way.

Also the sessions indicated that the accident was (more or less there chosen time of escaping this density) and too leaving humanity a message of the nature of evil.

And perhaps lots inspiration to carry on the struggle for truth..

She was a Saint with out a doubt. Some one i would been happy to meet, shake her hand and say unconditionally that you have incredible courage and are a of Warrior of Peace and Truth.

Again With all respect to your feelings.
 
Thank you Laura and team for the session and inspiration! About diana, it annoyed me how the populace was herded to honour her through this horrible unhuman state-celebration-party, instead of doing something she would have liked.
Diana's death did change something for me when i read Icke's books and investigation about it, on an extended holiday, in the time, just after the tsunami in indonesia. Maybe some growth could happen to me then, while living on a hot beach, not being caved in in the grotto(freight-trailer) i had made for myself to live in at home. I love being in the open world, and I could live in the open there, and sleeping belly down on the bare ground got me through a very hefty bout of Hep-A . I will take the advice to take care of the energy flows and blockages, as generated by the space i live in, and suppress my arrogance/stubbornness against 'acting like a hippy'. Would a dome or yurd be a good house, Feng shui wise?
 
The remark on Feng Shui intrigued me. I am quite skeptical about the theories around about the effects of positioning your furniture around to the overall Feng Shui of the house, etc. I wonder if there is a reliable source on this? I'm doing some renovation work on my family house and would like to incorporate anything that could improve the flow of energy within.

Thank you for the session. I hope the glad tidings, well, are not too shocking -- but we have to be prepared for any inevitability.
 
c.a. said:
Lilou said:
I watched a documentary about her death many years ago. They interviewed first responders and ER doctors. They said the type of injury Diana had was like the injury President Ronald Reagan sustained when he was shot by Hinckley. And if the ambulance had done a "grab and go" straight to the hospital, she could have been saved. Instead, they tried to stabilize her at the scene (which they said was standard protocol in France, whereas in the US, they tend to "grab and go"). It took nearly 1 hour for Diana to be put in the ambulance, and another 40 minutes more to reach a hospital, when it should have been 15 minutes or less. It's like they kept her on the side of the road until they were sure she'd not survive. :cry:

Elton John's remake of Candle in the Wind for Diana still makes me tear up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Efz3s7QiM8


With all respect Lilou that information was more than likely disinformation.

I've been on vehicle accidents similar in nature. At those speeds (given that vehicle Curb weight is 1,880 kg (4,145 lb), coupled with impact of hitting a solid object (the concrete pillar) and the release of kinetic energy alone would been similar of a plane crash.

Both Dodi Fayed and well admired Princess Diana, were not wearing there seat belt's (as i understand). This would have created massive internal injuries, and blunt force trauma to many of the vital internal organs. This alone was more than likely a condition that would have been non-reparable. Even by the most skilled surgeon's. Let alone adding internal bleeding. Were talking a real clinical view of reality and it would have taken a miracle to have come out any other way.

Also the sessions indicated that the accident was (more or less there chosen time of escaping this density) and too leaving humanity a message of the nature of evil.

And perhaps lots inspiration to carry on the struggle for truth..

She was a Saint with out a doubt. Some one i would been happy to meet, shake her hand and say unconditionally that you have incredible courage and are a of Warrior of Peace and Truth.

Again With all respect to your feelings.

I tend to disagree. There are many other aspects of the situation that point to her being deliberately killed.

Have you read the article I wrote and watched the banned video "unlawful killing"?

http://www.sott.net/article/265219-Unlawful-Killing-The-Murder-of-Princess-Diana

The video is not available at that link, but I'll upload it there soon.
 
Joe said:
c.a. said:
Lilou said:
I watched a documentary about her death many years ago. They interviewed first responders and ER doctors. They said the type of injury Diana had was like the injury President Ronald Reagan sustained when he was shot by Hinckley. And if the ambulance had done a "grab and go" straight to the hospital, she could have been saved. Instead, they tried to stabilize her at the scene (which they said was standard protocol in France, whereas in the US, they tend to "grab and go"). It took nearly 1 hour for Diana to be put in the ambulance, and another 40 minutes more to reach a hospital, when it should have been 15 minutes or less. It's like they kept her on the side of the road until they were sure she'd not survive. :cry:

Elton John's remake of Candle in the Wind for Diana still makes me tear up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Efz3s7QiM8


With all respect Lilou that information was more than likely disinformation.

I've been on vehicle accidents similar in nature. At those speeds (given that vehicle Curb weight is 1,880 kg (4,145 lb), coupled with impact of hitting a solid object (the concrete pillar) and the release of kinetic energy alone would been similar of a plane crash.

Both Dodi Fayed and well admired Princess Diana, were not wearing there seat belt's (as i understand). This would have created massive internal injuries, and blunt force trauma to many of the vital internal organs. This alone was more than likely a condition that would have been non-reparable. Even by the most skilled surgeon's. Let alone adding internal bleeding. Were talking a real clinical view of reality and it would have taken a miracle to have come out any other way.

Also the sessions indicated that the accident was (more or less there chosen time of escaping this density) and too leaving humanity a message of the nature of evil.

And perhaps lots inspiration to carry on the struggle for truth..

She was a Saint with out a doubt. Some one i would been happy to meet, shake her hand and say unconditionally that you have incredible courage and are a of Warrior of Peace and Truth.

Again With all respect to your feelings.

I tend to disagree. There are many other aspects of the situation that point to her being deliberately killed.

Have you read the article I wrote and watched the banned video "unlawful killing"?

http://www.sott.net/article/265219-Unlawful-Killing-The-Murder-of-Princess-Diana

The video is not available at that link, but I'll upload it there soon.

Hello Joe. I 'im not saying that is not a strong possibility.

One need's to understand that there are protocols (SOP's Standard Operating Producers) with the response in patient care from point of origin to the ER. It can be a long difficult process from point A too (For critical care) to Hospital's front door's needed to have positive out come.

These SOP's are Necessary (for legal reasons) and consist of:
1- Vehicle extrication...Time consuming at best
2- Patient assessment to the extent of being able too stabilize ones condition's before moving.
3-Packaging the patient for transposition to needed hospital while in transport with continued monitoring of Vitals to pass information to critical care Doctors and Er nurses
4-Transport- that being the time it would take to drive from the scene of the accident to the front door of said hospital.
5-Too have this move with rhythm it would had to be the dream team of the experienced, with everything going smoothly by a crackerjack team of professional's. Real World, this situation (dream team) is a rare event but it does happen. (some are in it for the money, some for the fame and few others for duty).
6-In Hospital delay of calling the necessary team of professional's with specialty to the injury's that needed the most care. Thus surgery time of how fast and how far they have to come from to even begin the start of the first cut.

This all could be delayed on a number of different levels and making it highly probable they should or would not survive.

I would bet that they were both on life support from number 2 to number 6. Thus with complications of life and death dicey at best.

I side with you. As the beast system had no love for them and at best saw them both as a threat to there agenda.
 
[quote author= ca]
With all respect Lilou that information was more than likely disinformation. [/quote]

I have never spent much time investigating the details, other than the documentary I watched in the late 90's while living in the Middle East. But the cause of death, as I understood, was a tear to a pulmonary vein. If Diana had been rushed to a hospital and taken to emergency surgery, she would have had a chance.

Pres. Reagan had the same injury when shot by Hinckley (according to the documentary), however, he was in a hospital within 15 minutes and in surgery shortly after. The tear was repaired and he survived.

Whatever the extent of Diana's injuries, she was conscious at the scene and was not trapped in the vehicle. Her "life support" measures did not become necessary until she was given a super high dose of pain meds which slowed her vitals and caused cardiac arrest.

Whatever the case, a grab and go scenario was warranted, but instead, a good hour and a half passed before she reached a hospital. I also found it curious that one of the first persons who came upon the scene was a doctor. What are the odds?
 
Lilou said:
[quote author= ca]
With all respect Lilou that information was more than likely disinformation.

I have never spent much time investigating the details, other than the documentary I watched in the late 90's while living in the Middle East. But the cause of death, as I understood, was a tear to a pulmonary vein. If Diana had been rushed to a hospital and taken to emergency surgery, she would have had a chance.

Pres. Reagan had the same injury when shot by Hinckley (according to the documentary), however, he was in a hospital within 15 minutes and in surgery shortly after. The tear was repaired and he survived.

Whatever the extent of Diana's injuries, she was conscious at the scene and was not trapped in the vehicle. Her "life support" measures did not become necessary until she was given a super high dose of pain meds which slowed her vitals and caused cardiac arrest.

Whatever the case, a grab and go scenario was warranted, but instead, a good hour and a half passed before she reached a hospital. I also found it curious that one of the first persons who came upon the scene was a doctor. What are the odds?
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Ok... copy that thanks for the calcification.

To back up what you described:
Princess Diana
http://www.funerals-and-flowers.com/princess-diana-death.html
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At around 12:23 am, at the entrance to the tunnel, their driver lost control; the car swerved to the left of the two-lane carriageway before colliding head-on with the 13th pillar supporting the roof

Dodi Fayed had been sitting in the left rear passenger seat and appeared to be dead. Fire officers would still try to resuscitate him, after he was pronounced dead by a doctor at 1:32 am. Henri Paul was declared dead on removal from the wreckage. Both were taken directly to the Institut Médico-Légal (IML), the Paris mortuary. Autopsy examination concluded that Paul and Fayed had both suffered a rupture in the isthmus of the aorta and a fractured spine, with, in the case of Paul, a medullar section in the dorsal region and in the case of Fayed a medullar section in the cervical region. Still conscious, Rees-Jones had suffered multiple serious facial injuries. The front passenger airbags had functioned normally, but none of the car's occupants were wearing seat belts.

Diana, who had been sitting in the rear right passenger seat, was still conscious. It was first reported that she was crouched on the floor of the vehicle with her back to the road. It was also reported that a photographer who saw Diana described her as bleeding from the nose and ears (a possible indication of massive head and brain injury's) with her head rested on the back of the front passenger's seat. He tried to remove her from the car but her feet were stuck. Then he told her that help was on the way and to stay awake. There was no answer from Diana, just blinking.

In June 2007, the Channel 4 documentary Diana: The Witnesses in the Tunnel claimed that the first person to touch Diana was Dr. Maillez, who chanced upon the scene. He reported that Diana had no visible injuries but was in shock and he supplied her with oxygen.

Police patrol officers would arrive at the scene and, shortly afterwards, arrest the seven paparazzi who were on the scene. By 1:00 am, Diana as removed from the vehicle and went into cardiac arrest. Following external cardiopulmonary resuscitation, her heart started beating again. She was moved to the SAMU ambulance at 1:18 am. The ambulance departed at 1:41 am and arrived at the Pitié-Salpétriére Hospital at 2:06 am. Despite attempts to save her, her internal injuries were too extensive: her heart had been displaced from the left to the right side of the chest, tearing the pulmonary vein and the pericardium. Despite lengthy resuscitation attempts, including internal cardiac massage, she died at 4 am. At 5:30, her death was announced at a press conference held by a hospital doctor, Jean-Pierre Chevénement, France's Interior Minister and Sir Michael Jay, Britain's ambassador to France.

Many have speculated that if Diana had worn a seat belt, her injuries would have been less severe. Initial media reports stated that Trevor Rees-Jones was the only car occupant to have worn a seat belt. These reports proved incorrect, as both the French1 and British2 investigations would conclude that none of the occupants of the car was wearing a seat belt at the time of the impact.

Later that morning, Chevénement, together with French Prime Minister Lionel Jospin, Bernadette Chirac, the wife of the French President, Jacques Chirac, and Bernard Kouchner, French Health Minister, visited the hospital room where Diana's body lay to pay their respects. After their visits, the Anglican Archdeacon of France, Father Martin Draper, said commendatory prayers from the Book of Common Prayer.

Later that day, around 2:00 pm, Prince Charles and Diana's sisters, Lady Sarah McCorquodale and Lady Jane Fellowes, arrived in Paris. They left with her body 90 minutes later.

Again time was critical to get her to the ER Trauma Center This was far to long of a time to the front door far too long for positive out come.
 
Lilou said:
I have never spent much time investigating the details, other than the documentary I watched in the late 90's while living in the Middle East. But the cause of death, as I understood, was a tear to a pulmonary vein. If Diana had been rushed to a hospital and taken to emergency surgery, she would have had a chance.

Yeah, the reanimation efforts were just increasing the blood loss through the injured pulmonary vein. If the injury would have been corrected ASAP, it would have been another story. Easier said than done.

I heard that the surgeon first opened one side of the chest only to realize it was the other side where the vein was ruptured. Nevertheless, it was already too late when she arrived to the operating room.
 
Gaby said:
Lilou said:
I have never spent much time investigating the details, other than the documentary I watched in the late 90's while living in the Middle East. But the cause of death, as I understood, was a tear to a pulmonary vein. If Diana had been rushed to a hospital and taken to emergency surgery, she would have had a chance.

Yeah, the reanimation efforts were just increasing the blood loss through the injured pulmonary vein. If the injury would have been corrected ASAP, it would have been another story. Easier said than done.

I heard that the surgeon first opened one side of the chest only to realize it was the other side where the vein was ruptured. Nevertheless, it was already too late when she arrived to the operating room.

Here is another version of said events:
Dr. Frederick Mailliez : First Medic On The Scene After The Crash
http://dianaunlawfullkilling.blogspot.fr/2011/12/dr-frederick-mailliez-first-medic-on.html
Monday, December 5, 2011
Henri Paul and Dodi Fayed both died instantly in the crash in the Place de L'Alma tunnel. Bodyguard Trevor Rees-Jones, seated in the front passenger seat, had buckled his seat belt shortly before the crash. This probably saved his life.

Princess Diana also survived the crash. She sustained serious injuries and was bleeding internally, but the first doctor on the scene of the crash believed that she would survive, with proper emergency medical care. Dr. Frederic Mailliez was driving through the Place de L'Alma and happened on the site, just minutes after the crash. According to a lengthy news account, published in The Scotsman on Sept. 29, Dr. Mailliez did not believe that Princess Diana's condition was desperate. He later told a French medical journal, "I thought her life could be saved." Dr. Mailliez was an experienced emergency medical professional, who worked at one time for the SAMU, the French government's emergency ambulance service, before going to work for a private medical response outfit called SOS Medecins.

Dr. Mailliez found Princess Diana lying on the back seat of the Mercedes, according to his account to The Scotsman. Contrary to stories leaked by French authorities to the press, she was not pinned in the rear compartment. The back seat of the Mercedes had not been seriously damaged in the crash, and there was no obstruction to getting at Diana . The French authorities issued these initial false reports in response to queries why it had taken an incredible one hour and 43 minutes, from the time that the first ambulance arrived at the crash site, to deliver Princess Diana to the hospital-four miles away.

Further, Romuald Rat, one of the most thuggish of the paparazzi, who was later charged with possible complicity in the Mercedes crash, was observed by one eyewitness at the crash site, leaning over Princess Diana as she lay semi-conscious in the back seat of the Mercedes, just before the first emergency rescue crew arrived.

Dr. Mailliez moved Diana's head to allow her to breathe. He called the emergency hotline to report the details of the crash on his car phone. He was told that ambulances had already been dispatched to the scene. He then administered oxygen, and ensured that Diana was not going to choke to death~h or swallow her tongue. When SAMU arrived on the scene, Dr. Mailliez left, confident that she would be quickly brought to a nearby hospital. He had ah~already concluded, on the basis of Princess Diana's vital signs, and her movements, that she was bleeding internally.

The first doctors to arrive with the ambulance and the other emergency vehicles reached the same conclusion, according to statements given to The Scotsman. One doctor who asked to remain anonymous said: "She was sweating and her blood pressure had dropped. She had the external signs of internal hemorrhage."

Diana was lying across the back seat of the Mercedes, with most of her body leaning outside the car, when the ambulance arrived, approximately 15-16 minutes after the crash, according to one of the ambulance crew, who also spoke to The Scotsman. She was almost immediately removed from the car.

Yet, Diana remained at the crash site for another hour, before she was placed in an ambulance and driven, at less than 25 mph, to a hospital on the other side of the Seine River, four miles away. The decision to bring Princess Diana to La Pitie Salpetriere Hospital was evidently made by the senior French government officials on the spot, Paris Police Chief Massoni and Interior Minister Chevenement. Massoni was in the tunnel, and Chevenement was already at La Pitie Salpetriere, in phone contact with the rescue crew in the tunnel. Yet, there are five other hospitals closer to the crash site, all with advanced emergency capabilities.

One highly respected French doctor who specializes in emergency response, told EIR, in an exclusive interview, that Princess Diana should have been taken to the Val de Grace, "which is much closer than La Pitie.

That is a military hospital. Every political figure who is in a car crash or is injured is taken there." The doctor added: "The firemen, who were on the scene of the crash, are part of the Army.

They undoubtedly notified the Val de Grace, which has a top team of trauma specialists on duty 'round the clock.

I might have helicoptered her in.

She would have been on the operating block a few minutes after being stabilized. This woman was one of the world's most powerful and influential people. She would normally have been given top priority and top treatment. She was not."

Not only was Princess Diana not brought to Val de Grace. She was not brought to Cochin Hospital, the Hotel Dieu, Lariboisiere, or the private American Hospital - all of which were closer than La Pitie Salpetriere, and all of which had qualified personnel and emergency facilities to repair the damaged arteries.

There is no credible explanation for why the French emergency personnel at the scene waited for more than an hour to place Princess Diana into the ambulance.

There is no credible explanation for why the four-mile ride, through barren Paris streets, took 43 minutes!

There is certainly no credible explanation for why the ambulance stopped for ten minutes outside the French Natural History Museum, just a few hundred yards from Le Pitie Salpetriere Hospital, as confirmed to both The Scotsman and the British weekly The People!

In a case where a crash victim has been diagnosed as suffering from internal bleeding, there is only one proper course of action.

The victim should be stabilized, and then be rushed to a hospital for surgery. Unless the internal bleeding is stopped, the patient bleeds to death.

This is precisely what happened to Princess Diana From The Scotsman:

"What is puzzling about the treatment offered to Diana is that she was not hospitalized until her condition had deteriorated to a critical extent. She suffered a series of heart attacks in the tunnel and on the way to the hospital, and had a massive cardiac arrest within minutes of arriving at La Pitie Salpetriere. The truth is that she was dead on arrival in the operating theater, although the surgical team battled against all the odds to revive her. "No convincing explanation has been offered for the delay. The surgical team at the hospital had a long time in which to prepare for the arrival of their patient. They were in telephone communication with the doctors in the tunnel from the very beginning and were on formal alert from 1 a.m. Diana did not arrive until at least one hour later."

Crash Testing the 2013 Volvo XC60! - The Downshift Episode 51
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSdQyVNUvTc
2014 Mercedes-Benz E-Class 4-door sedan small overlap IIHS crash test (40 mph)
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkX16uDkHm8
 
Thank you for another session. Most interesting especially but not only the bit about the growing of strands in connection with Joe's experience. Congratulations, even if that word might not quite capture it, as it is not a very pleasant experience. But knowing what it is no doubt also brings a bit of relief. I'd say a most deserved development knowing how much you put into this. I too have noticed how you have changed very much in the ways of communication, with much empathy and understanding.

Joe said:
[...]

In the weeks previous to that night, a few things had happened, and Ark had said something that awoke the realization in me that everything we do had to be motivated by love, but I understood that mostly from an intellectual perspective. But whatever happened that night seems to have turned that intellectual understanding into a visceral one.

Another way to look at it is that the process is analogous to what is called an "awakening of the emotional center" (not sure about any "higher" emotional center). It seems logical to conclude that, when such a thing happens, all of the repressed emotions (I was very good at that) both positive and negative, are suddenly dropped into your consciousness, and you have to deal with the good and bad, and then begin to acclimatize yourself to this "new reality".

[...]
Interestingly a colleague of mine the other day asked me if I would agree to that love is behind everything in life and that we are here to learn that fact (or something to that extent). It was interesting that the person made that statement seemingly out of the blue. The universe communicates indeed in interesting ways or is it just the self signaling/communicating to self?
 
Great session folks. Princess Diana and her death must never be forgotten or excused as an "accident."
 
Thank you for another session of knowledge.

It's interesting what's been said about Feng Shui. I was a bit confused and skeptical about it before as sometimes it looked to me like one of those business for some particular idea's promoters. Like you know, buy this or that and your problems will go away. Considering what's been said I started doing some research on principles, recommendations that should be taken into account when drafting plans for family home, healthy zones, directions, etc. Initial results provided me with an answer to some questions I had regarding my motivation to work or bad quality of sleep. So thanks for the hint.

Congrats to Joe on a new strand!
 
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