Session 30 January 2010

[Aeneas]

I find it interesting that the countries with high psychopathy populations are predominantly "white". Suggests a link with "Aryan genes"... Also, looking at the governments of the past century in China and Africa, it seems to me that populations with a LOW percentage of psychopaths require a more overtly brutal and repressive government. Countries with lots of psychopaths are more "open", i.e. "free market", "dog-eat-dog". They embody the psychopathic mindset and don't need as much prodding. Just an hypothesis...

Interesting idea about the possible requirement of population with LOW percentage of psychopaths to have more overt brutal and repressive governments.

Regarding the "Aryan genes" and the high prevalence of psychopaths in Israel along with the mention that previously there had been higher concentrations in the low lands, made me think of the thread a few years ago about "Abraham" possibly being a Hittite and the thought that Hittites might have come from Holland. And the Hittites being Aryan. A short look using the search function did not yield any result.

 

[3DStudent]

Just caught up with this thread. Thank you to Laura and all the members who attended the session. Also thanks to the forum for providing the psychopath numbers and further insights!

I wasn't surprised about Haiti being intentional. It seemed that the discussions about it here were pointing in that direction. I kind of felt that they would do something like that too. I also didn't think there would be so many psychopaths, 6% is a low number. But that's the world average, and they tend to cluster in certain places.

I can imagine what all the people that died in Haiti must feel in 5D. A slap in the face, and disappointment osit. We really must have a big load to carry here in 3D, and knowing all this information helps make it easier to get thorough.

I was thinking about what Laura said about something magnetizing and I'm reading the beginning of Wave 7. It was talking about if comets were to hit it would be a huge disaster politically, economically, and socially. And I thought, "What if they magnetize a comet?"

I had thoughts about the Operators and Things topic when reading the session; I thought that was a good book.

My understanding, since reading Operators and Things, and after this session, is that the Operators, or "cryptogeographic beings" are 4d sts, the 4d marauders, our "controllers," especially if we are of the psychopathic or organic portal persuasion. Is this interpretation correct, or are the C's and Laura talking about something else?

Yeah, when I read O&T I was thinking that the operators sure sounded like some STS beings. Especially with that game they played to try to get the most loosh? from "things". So are we saying that Barbara really did experience a tuning into something hyperdimensional?

 

[shijing]

Regarding the "Aryan genes" and the high prevalence of psychopaths in Israel along with the mention that previously there had been higher concentrations in the low lands, made me think of the thread a few years ago about "Abraham" possibly being a Hittite and the thought that Hittites might have come from Holland. And the Hittites being Aryan. A short look using the search function did not yield any result.

I don't think the Hittites came from Holland, only because western Europe was colonized by Indo-Europeans much later than Anatolia, which is where the Hittites lived, so the Hittites were already in place before anyone ever colonized as far as the Lowlands. Both the Hittites and the Europeans were 'Aryan', though, and in that sense you are correct that there is a common denominator.

 

[anart]

It could perhaps also mean that they will have to go harder at each other as those of strong STS orientation have little concern for their fellow beings whether they be STS or STO, and are quite ready to knife even other fellow psychopaths on the hierarchical ladder if the opportunity arises. The corporate world shows examples of just such behaviour. A powerful STS psychopath would likely constitute quite rich food?

Considering food, in this context, is emotional and energetic, I don't know that I can agree with the idea that a powerful psychopath would be rich food. It might be food - but someone who has a more complex and in-depth emotional life would be more rich food - at least to my current understanding.

 

[Yossarian]

A brief study of the word "crypto geographic"

crypto:

a secret supporter or follower; cryptography; secret or covert
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/crypto

geographic

Geography (from Greek γεωγραφία - geographia, lit. "earth describe-write" ) is the study of the Earth and its lands, features, inhabitants, and phenomena. A literal translation would be "to describe or write about the Earth". ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic

We have secret or covert describer--writer about the earth, i.e. a world controller. It looks like my idea is correct, these, the "operators" as described in Operators and Things are the Universal Law, 4D sts controllers.

 

[Aeneas]

It could perhaps also mean that they will have to go harder at each other as those of strong STS orientation have little concern for their fellow beings whether they be STS or STO, and are quite ready to knife even other fellow psychopaths on the hierarchical ladder if the opportunity arises. The corporate world shows examples of just such behaviour. A powerful STS psychopath would likely constitute quite rich food?

Considering food, in this context, is emotional and energetic, I don't know that I can agree with the idea that a powerful psychopath would be rich food. It might be food - but someone who has a more complex and in-depth emotional life would be more rich food - at least to my current understanding.

I can not say that I am sure either and surely more food is derived from someone on a STO path and with a rich emotional life. The thought was more in thinking of what the RA material were saying that a lot of people are neutral with not a strong direction going in an STS way or an STO way. If that is the case, then one could think that a powerful psychopath firmly on the STS pathway and with strong negative emotions could be relatively speaking good food. These strong negative emotions might well be very shallow and not very deep, but though intense when loosing to a stronger psychopath. This is admittedly just speculations while thinking in particular of corporate takeovers, where dog eats dog.

 

[salleles]

Also, looking at the governments of the past century in China and Africa, it seems to me that populations with a LOW percentage of psychopaths require a more overtly brutal and repressive government. Countries with lots of psychopaths are more "open", i.e. "free market", "dog-eat-dog". They embody the psychopathic mindset and don't need as much prodding. Just an hypothesis...

That you for sharing this! I was wondering about it too, trying to reconcile the low numbers of psychopaths that were given in the session to the, like you said, some of the brutal and repressive government system there. But your hypothesis would explain it very well.

And it seems such a repressive government system also creates a ground for an even more psychopatic society. While majority of the population experience only scarcity of almost everything, the ruling class in contrary lives indecently and openly in opulence, luxury. And the simple minded population end up having a materialistic view of a better life, associated with high politic positions. And most of the time, the only way to arrive there is to become like the ruling elite; that is by violence, lies, corruptions, etc., creating a society where the innocents/victims are punished and the violents, liars, corrupted are praised. This creates a cycle of open violence against population which progressively becomes normal as intitutions like, police, tribunals have long ago ceased to play their role. At least, this is the way I see the development in my country. They are trying to make as much normal people as possible behave like them.

I would propose a slightly different hypothesis: populations with a low percentage of psychopaths do not 'require' an overtly brutal and repressive government, but they may be MUCH easier to bring under control by the latter. On the condition that a relatively small number of psychopaths have been pulling the strings for a long time, which probably is the case in China and many countries in Africa.

 

[Aeneas]

A: Close. And notice that no one is arguing with them right now!

Q: (L) In other words, you've got something that can do that, nobody's gonna mess with you.

Just read on global research this article called Pentagon runs amok, where it says :

It is not possible to believe that it is coincidence that just as the Pentagon is being called upon to justify its immunity from the across-the-board budget freeze that President Barack Obama is declaring for the federal government, at least three provocative U.S. arms sales have been announced -- to Taiwan, Poland and four Persian Gulf states.

The announcements were clearly scheduled to provoke, respectively, China, Russia and Iran. Each will now bark loudly, and perhaps take retaliatory action. Their responses will, in turn, serve as justification by the Pentagon for the 7.1 percent increase in proposed defense spending, even as painful cuts are being administered in other fields.

The other beneficiaries of this move will be the defense contractors -- the happy band of manufacturers and trainers and their lobbyists -- into the ranks of which many senior military officers and Pentagon officials retire once their active duty days are done.

The timing of the arms sales just after having shown their capability is interesting in light of what the C's said in the session and would otherwise seem very strange as the article goes on to show:

The timing of the U.S. announcement -- unless the furious Chinese reaction is seen as helping the Pentagon's budgetary case with the Congress -- would seem to be particularly unpropitious.

The United States is asking China to sign on to sanctions against Iran. It continues to rely on China to keep North Korea in line. Mr. Obama's new initiative to double U.S. exports is dependent on China's adjusting its currency, a step it is reluctant to take in any case. And in general, China's relations with Taiwan have been improving steadily, tending more toward enhanced commercial ties, as opposed to military competition. The new U.S. arms sales would seem to cut counter to this evolution of relations and must have been a difficult decision for the Taipei government to take, one certainly encouraged by U.S. defense equipment exporters.

Not to mention that this is done by a Nobel peace Laureat

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[findit]

Thank you for a wonderful session! Fascinating reading to say the least. As to earthquake technology what came to my mind was this: In early 2001 I remember reading in the newspaper at the time an interview with FEMA and their top 3 concerns at the time which went in this order-1) A terrorist attack in NY City. 2) Levees of New Orleans breaking and flooding the city and 3) Major earthquake in CA. About 3 or 4 years ago I remember reading in the LA Times that scientists predicted that there was a high probability of a major earthquake in CA happening in the next 25 years. Then there was the movie "The Demolition Man" that talked about a major earthquake hitting CA in 2010. Just my thoughts.
I am fascinated by the discussion on 5D but I thought early in the C's transcripts that what is going on now is an ongoing cycle and happens throughout the universe(s). And considering how BIG 3D is, I'm sure sould could find another place to reincarnate if it comes to that. Personally, I want to go to 4D like most people here. I've had my fill of 3D STS.
Thanks again for a wonderful session and everyone's work!

 

[The Mechanic]

<snip>

The word “Holland” is frequently used to refer to the country “The Netherlands”, where “The Netherlands” is its official name. For us Dutch “Holland” is the name of either one of the 2 provinces (North Holland and South Holland). But, to confuse the matter, we use “Holland” as well, for example during soccer matches or when asked “Where do you come from?”

I actually never call either South Holland or North Holland "Holland" myself. The dictionary (why didn't I think of looking it up before) states that Holland means either 1) The Dutch provinces of North Holland and South Holland together, or 2) The Netherlands.
soure (dutch): http://www.vandale.nl/vandale/opzoeken/woordenboek/?zoekwoord=holland

So, yes, in this case by Holland The Netherlands are meant. :)

I still agree :)

Though I find the whole Low Countries comments in the session around the Holland question kinda confusing so I'm not 100% percent sure...

 

[Nienna]

It could perhaps also mean that they will have to go harder at each other as those of strong STS orientation have little concern for their fellow beings whether they be STS or STO, and are quite ready to knife even other fellow psychopaths on the hierarchical ladder if the opportunity arises. The corporate world shows examples of just such behaviour. A powerful STS psychopath would likely constitute quite rich food?

Considering food, in this context, is emotional and energetic, I don't know that I can agree with the idea that a powerful psychopath would be rich food. It might be food - but someone who has a more complex and in-depth emotional life would be more rich food - at least to my current understanding.

I can not say that I am sure either and surely more food is derived from someone on a STO path and with a rich emotional life. The thought was more in thinking of what the RA material were saying that a lot of people are neutral with not a strong direction going in an STS way or an STO way. If that is the case, then one could think that a powerful psychopath firmly on the STS pathway and with strong negative emotions could be relatively speaking good food. These strong negative emotions might well be very shallow and not very deep, but though intense when loosing to a stronger psychopath. This is admittedly just speculations while thinking in particular of corporate takeovers, where dog eats dog.

My thought on STS (psychopaths) battling each other is more about power and money. They would want to be "top dog" because here in 3D money and power are energy. So even if there is not as much "food" from another psychopath, you would then get there share of profits and power.

This, I think, is all that matters to psychopaths. The STS feeding would come from the "collateral damage" done by the in-fighting of psychopathic factions.

I also think that those who are on the top of this power elite dynamic enjoy watching the show as their underlings (or pets, if you will) do to each other what they are doing to the rest of humanity. It's all a game show to them.

my 2 cents

 

[Vulcan59]

I find it interesting that the countries with high psychopathy populations are predominantly "white". Suggests a link with "Aryan genes"... Also, looking at the governments of the past century in China and Africa, it seems to me that populations with a LOW percentage of psychopaths require a more overtly brutal and repressive government. Countries with lots of psychopaths are more "open", i.e. "free market", "dog-eat-dog". They embody the psychopathic mindset and don't need as much prodding. Just an hypothesis...

Thanks AI for bringing up this idea. Reading this brought up another thought that the C's mentioned in another session which seems related:

Q: (L) Why are there different races?
A: Many reasons. Experimental creations. Partly.
Q: (L) Where did the Orientals come from?
A: Same as all others. Result of experimentation.
Q: (L) Did they originate on this planet? Are they native to this planet?
A: Both. Orientals reserved for souls most advanced; Aryans most aggressive;
Negroes most naturally attuned to earth vibrational frequency. So are "native Americans".

 

[Al Today]

About the food... The food we generate is something we have not been able to define nor measure. My thoughts are the more extreme the emotions, the better the meal. What I have yet to theorize is what these heightened emotions do. For example, does extreme terror yield more food (quantity) or tastier food (quality)...

 

[Laurentien2]

A powerful STS psychopath would likely constitute quite rich food?

Psychopath are failed OP, They do not produce energy as such but help harvest the emotional energy for there sts master of souled or adamic men/woman. By traumatizing us, they polarize that emotional energy negatively which feed the lizzies and may help them, when the Wave pass, to expand there dominion on a larger part of the Orion region. Psychopath can be use as food only as far as steak or spare part, they won't have any raison d'être after the harvest. Still, in this tread someone brought the idea that they may be container or vessel for the nefalin in space and waiting for the wave to pass to 4th density. This is an interesting idea, some psychopath (36 millions at the most) may have attained the 95 percent mark and are now totally under the control of the 4th den. sts controller.

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A

lso, looking at the governments of the past century in China and Africa, it seems to me that populations with a LOW percentage of psychopaths require a more overtly brutal and repressive government. Countries with lots of psychopaths are more "open", i.e. "free market", "dog-eat-dog". They embody the psychopathic mindset and don't need as much prodding. Just an hypothesis...

I agree with you, a free and open society seem to be the best breeding ground for psychopath, they raise to the top and become the mirror for the mass, who salivate at the taught of wearing there cloth and driving there car. (figuratively speaking). Where as the souled should be the mirror for the OP that should show him/her the higher way, it is now the psychopath that lead the souled to the abyss. This hell indeed.

 

[JEEP]

Well, things get speculative at this point as far as I know. The first psychopath mutation was said to have occurred 50,000 years ago [48,000 BC], so according to that date, none of the Kantekkians should have been psychopathic when they were first migrated here. As far as having 'strong psychopathic tendencies', I guess it depends on what you mean -- if psychopathy is genetic, then I'm not sure you can have a 'tendency' strictly speaking -- it would either exist or it wouldn't. Some may have had a more general sociopathic (the way we use the term) or characteropathic bent -- possibly with an environmental component, since we have no idea what conditions were like on Kantek before it blew up. Maybe they were constantly fighting huge beasties there or something, so needed to be a bit more naturally aggressive (we also know now that they were more technologically advanced than the Earth population when they first arrived, thanks to the information that Laura posted on AI's psychopathy question thread). I don't think we can say much more than that without more information, but it does seem that they have played a special purpose in the history of the human population since their removal from Kantek.

Whoa, this thread is moving at such a quick pace! I want to jump in to thank Shijing for his response and to express my complete gratitude for all that he is contributing to the forum as a whole - an impressive amount and level of work! Also, thanks, too, to Psyche's input! That excerpt was quite informative! And, while I'm at it, thanks to all the contributors - I believe we are making much progress in picking apart the psychopath conundrum. Now I need to catch up on the rest of today's responses!