Session 6 July 2024

Cs answered a few months ago.
Thank you for this - this gives more clarity.

Would be interesting to find out why there is amnesia and reincarnation from 5D to 3D and why there is no Amnesia from 5D to 3D

Also regarding the soul/conciousness how does one move beyond the 5D reincarnation to lower density system?

I know that the being/soul/conciousness has more abilities in 4D however it is a physical existence and I believe the C’s are in 6D on the other side of 5D
 
Hello guys,
I can't understand why anyone would want to have clues as to who is an OP ????,
I kind of see this as more like what makes an OP tick. Or what differentiates a souled individual from an OP. That seems worthwhile. As for a benefit of clues, I wouldn’t want to marry an OP if I could help it, I suppose but I don’t think people are trying to be able to say “Ahah!” And point and screech like Donald Sutherlin in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

We are all evolving souls and there’s a lot to learn but I think I get your point. IOW, why not more focusing on what makes a souled machine tick vs a totally mechanical one? Or how to become a better souled individual? Perhaps by being less mechanical and that’s where looking at OP’s comes in. Our own programming can be seen in an OP without the delusions and clutter of a soul and a mind. So that’s another reason to look.

all this discussion about inner dialogue is sterile from my point of view, I find the subject divisive, everything that should be avoided.
Dialogue is dialogue whether inner or outer. Sterile is subjective but TBH I’m not super into OP analysis either, but I enjoy the work everyone is doing with it. I think of that as networking. Everyone contributes where and when they are inspired, have knowledge or questions or are triggered. (Lol)

From an STO perspective people should be free to discuss what they want. (Paul did have a tendency to be a bit of a mother hen but he was trying to lead his flock and teach them wisdom with the highest intentions. So, He gets a pass!)
The C's have asked us to take inspiration from Saint Paul's letter to the Corinthians, to read it again and again to imprint it on our minds. If we don't have love, we're worthless,
I kind of get where you’re coming from, I think. Better to work on the logs in our own eyes rather than analyzing the eyeballs that contain no light. Yes?
 
Be careful about how much tobacco you use if you are using it in a different format.
I use it once steeped in water for a few days, as an organic weed killer!

I think I read somewhere that too much tobacco/nicotine can actually be lethal. Especially as it can be hard to estimate how much had actually mixed into the liquid.

It may be quite a high amount needed to kill but i cannot be sure. But i do know it doesn't need much to kill my weeds!

In smoking it as a cigarette I guess much nicotine actually escapes when inhaling and exhaling.
 
Hm , op's are machines ,

OPs are simply at an earlier stage of evolving. They are a part of group souls that recently graduated from 2D to 3D and over time they can develop individual souls, according to the C's.

We are all machines, OPs and individuated souled beings, until a lot of Work is done on oneself to become less mechanical.
 
Be careful about how much tobacco you use if you are using it in a different format.
I use it once steeped in water for a few days, as an organic weed killer!

I think I read somewhere that too much tobacco/nicotine can actually be lethal. Especially as it can be hard to estimate how much had actually mixed into the liquid.

It may be quite a high amount needed to kill but i cannot be sure. But i do know it doesn't need much to kill my weeds!

In smoking it as a cigarette I guess much nicotine actually escapes when inhaling and exhaling.

AFAIK, tobacco can only be lethal if swallowed.

I don't think it's a weed killer. I've sprayed it on tomatoes in strong concentrations and the tomatoes were fine... What kind of weeds were you killing?

It is a good natural insecticide - it's only a good insecticide because you can spray it on plants and the plants are basically unaffected. That's been my experience at least.

FWIW, the other homemade weed killer I use is cleaning vinegar (2 jugs of 10% acetic acid), 1 cup of salt, and 3 Tbsp of Dawn dish soap. Works like a charm. Makes the yard smell like salt & vinegar chips, too.
 
I think I read somewhere that too much tobacco/nicotine can actually be lethal.
I've read that too. Christopher Buckley wrote a book decades ago in which nicotine patches were used in an attempt to take out an adversary, and I vaguely remember an old spy novel discussing the use of boiled cigarettes as a fatal toxin.
Wikipedia: Thank You for Smoking is a novel by Christopher Buckley, first published in 1994, which tells the story of the fictional character Nick Naylor, a tobacco lobbyist during the 1990s.[1] ... [Nick] utilizes high-profile media events and intentionally provocative rhetoric in order to highlight what his clients view as an unfair crusade against tobacco and nicotine products. A pivotal point in the plot occurs when Naylor is kidnapped by a clandestine group who attempt to kill him by covering him with nicotine patches.
A movie was made of the book as well. An excerpt from the movie on youtube is here.
 
You know guys, this session blew my mind. I still don't know what to say days after. Thank you million of times !
Mostly I'm overwhelmed by informations of no existing inner dialog when it comes to OP's because I'm suspecting for
years now that I'm married to one.
Now I'm 99% sure.

And it's not that I have something against them, life is a school, a religion, they have their way - but it's pretty damn hard living
with an empty box next to you. Who thinks his emptiness is normal and we all others are crazy and need to check our head.
Especially when he had to be having some parenting skills, some basic need and capacity for human interaction wich he has not.

That girl in video interview is milder case comparing to my husband.
'Inside the criminal mind' and 'The character disturbance' books gave my perspective what's going on but this little detail about
not having inner world at all just gives me creaps.

Thank you again for the awesome session, take care everyone, hugs !
 
AFAIK, tobacco can only be lethal if swallowed.

I don't think it's a weed killer. I've sprayed it on tomatoes in strong concentrations and the tomatoes were fine... What kind of weeds were you killing?

It is a good natural insecticide - it's only a good insecticide because you can spray it on plants and the plants are basically unaffected. That's been my experience at least.

FWIW, the other homemade weed killer I use is cleaning vinegar (2 jugs of 10% acetic acid), 1 cup of salt, and 3 Tbsp of Dawn dish soap. Works like a charm. Makes the yard smell like salt & vinegar chips, too.
I just used it on my pathways. They are very uneven and the weeks get through. Also some old crazy paving on my patio.
Yes locals here have told me to use a weak concoction with thyme and I think some dishwashing liquid. To use to spray on the citrus trees, grapes, grapes and fig trees to prevent the awful maggots that invade all the fruit just before haresting. I used to spend hours once stewing the fruit picking out all the maggots because the thought of them absolutely disgusted me and put me off the fruit for years!

Sadly here most just use the chemical pesticides.
So I will do the experiment next time as for now I just donate all my fruit and excess to others, keeping just a small amount of stewed fruit in the freezer - except plenty of apple stew to go with my pork!
 
Thank you for this - this gives more clarity.

Would be interesting to find out why there is amnesia and reincarnation from 5D to 3D and why there is no Amnesia from 5D to 3D

Also regarding the soul/conciousness how does one move beyond the 5D reincarnation to lower density system?

I know that the being/soul/conciousness has more abilities in 4D however it is a physical existence and I believe the C’s are in 6D on the other side of 5D
It's not a mystery.

In the material of Ra (Law of One) it is explained.

The third density experience is exclusively for the choice to occur (STO or STS) and the veil of forgetfulness is necessary for the choice to be genuine.

In the rest of the densities the being has already chosen its path and the veil of oblivion is not necessary, which is why the experiences of other lives are remembered in fourth density.

This is very basic, but it is evident to me that you have not read Ra's (Law of One) material.
 
Thank you for another remarkable session.
While reading the session this part caught my eye:


1984 were the Winter Olympic games in Sarajevo - Bosnia ( ex-Yugoslavia )
In the next 6-7 years the world experienced enormous changes. For example, the Unification of Germany, the disintegration of Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union, and many more events.

Now, 40 years later the Quorum is meeting again.
2024 - Are the Paris Olympic games.
Can we expect similar changes as we witnessed 40 years ago? If there is anything near the last change, something huge is coming our way, and I think it will be even bigger this time.

If we try to find any analogy from previous changes, can we expect a disintegration of France, or the whole EU as we know it today, and maybe huge unbelievable changes in the USA?

And then the 2024 Olympics mascot - Phryges.



If you just take out the word 'sport' from the last bolded text, an interesting message emerges. It could be something like 'To encourage and embody the revolution that is underway.'


Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see what trick they'll play this time to provoke more resistance from people.
Thanks for that very interesting reminder. I personally feel that there are no coincidences, others may feel differently. I am sure that the Cs had addressed coinicidences at one time. It brings me back to when I was watching the 2012 Olympic live opening ceremony from London. I remember thinking whilst watching, that it was a bit of an unusual/odd theme, about all those children in all those hospital beds ( thought that it was a reminder of the Gt. Ormond St. children's hospital in London, and that with the popularity of the Harry Potter books, the spookier the better, so thought it was normal) and all the nurses and nannies like in Mary Poppins ( and we all know that Mary Poppins did magic!) and that ghoul of a puppet, the giant faceless one with the hooded cloak and the wand. I remember, at the end pdf the ceremony, that I saw a giant hologram. It was of the spike protein from the Covid 19 outbreak. I remember thinking how amazing the technology was to make this massive thing appear as if real, hovering as if suspended in the middle of the stage! I have questioned myself over and over if I really saw this, as in 2020 I saw one of the spike protein models in a video, and it sparked the memory, so I went through all the videos I could find of official BBC and private videos of that ceremony, that had been posted. I found nothing. I know that those uploading their videos on YT, these videos could have been edited whilst they were awaiting the moderation and all clear to publish it. I know that YT do this frequently by taking out the parts that will create problems otherwise they will shut your channel down or remove your video just like that. In questioning my own memory of it, and as a visual person, I cannot understand why I would automatically think of the opening ceremony of the 2012 games when I saw the spike protein model many years later, unless I had a bonafide memory of it. As a trained visual merchandiser, usually with me, when I see/hear something, I usually get an immediate Association with it, whether it is a colour, or a sound, a feeling, I think most of us do, even without realising it. So I feel more strongly that I did see this hologram in 2012, than not.

So, we should definitely keep our eyes and ears open for France's opening ceremony, as with also the CERN, Gottherd Tunnel opening ceremony which was an outright flaunting, to the world, of the satanic theme, and then the 2023 European Games opening ceremony with the giant bull with the red eyes, let us keep our eyes peeled for any messages that they are converting.
We have often been reminded, that they have to show us what they are planning and it is up to us to work it out.....so keep 'em peeled guys!
 
It's not a mystery.

In the material of Ra (Law of One) it is explained.

The third density experience is exclusively for the choice to occur (STO or STS) and the veil of forgetfulness is necessary for the choice to be genuine.

In the rest of the densities the being has already chosen its path and the veil of oblivion is not necessary, which is why the experiences of other lives are remembered in fourth density.

This is very basic, but it is evident to me that you have not read Ra's (Law of One) material.

Have I read Ra’s material…Yes.

Am I as familiar with it as the C’s material and/or 4th way other esoteric sources …No

it is said Ra’s material is a mix of truth and fiction thus I would naturally put more time effort energy into C’s channeling material to avoid more confusion/wasting time for efficiency and not go down wrong roads as I remember during a C’s session RA’s material was questioned and the C’s said the material was a % true.

I think I made the right choice as I feel/know my progress is correct and has come along way just some missing parts

Thank you for answering my question this is a big missing piece or was for me and I only have one other question based on this new (to me) information
 
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I think they may actually be crazy enough to try to implement all this
Yes they may just be that delusional. They quite literally believe that Putin is the attacker when in fact he is doing exactly what the Donbass voters asked him to do - save them from the Ukrainian Nazi's.

It's quite obvious from the ticket Carlson interview and from articles on SOTT that Putin has no intention of invading other countries. Of course if the war escalates, Putin may be forced to enter other countries like Germany to shut them down.

Let's hope it doesn't come to that. Of course we have other things to worry about like cometary impacts lol.

So today we need to rebalance? Why do they care about rebalancing, when they do everything to put people to
I don't think they have a choice. Balance is a natural law.

well why wouldn't you judge them negatively if they lack capability of thinking for example?
Compassion?

Being aware of their existence is useful so that we may protect ourselves from those that may attack us. That doesn't mean though that every OP will attack us. In fact, all of us are OP's until we have grown and seated a soul.
I'm sure the STS team is aware that their actions create conditions for some humans to become STO beings.
Perhaps some of them are aware but because of their wishful thinking, I think they just do what they do believing that they can win. So they really have no need and may not be able aware of the need for balance.

if we have that sto root or potential, they haven't created us. they manipulate us and experiment on us. just like the government (the actual martians) doesn't create a human race by using the vaccine.
Yes, they have created us. If you read the wave you will undertake how this is so.

In a nutshell it's genetic manipulation but I think it goes deeper than that because the C's say that we were designed on another planet where the STS beings have vats of human DNA and body parts.
it seems to me that russia is winning the arms race
Russia has supersonic nuclear warheads that are faster than anything the US has. They can be used to blow other nuked out of the sky. Russia is arms king as far as public knowledge goes and I think NATO recognizes this as well.

I fail to see how suffering and so many mountains of deaths is necessary for an evolution/advancement of the soul
At the human level, evolution must be done consciously. And unlike the animal kingdom, humans evolve as individuals and not a species. It doesn't happen "automatically" and very few humans are able to evolve. This is a natural law according to Gurdjieff.

Without suffering what need or desire would you have to attempt evolution in the first place?

and it seems to me that there is no point in participating in a discussion forum at all if everyone gives you some links instead of referring to something normally.
The reason is that this group has a definite aim. You have a responsibility to the group and to yourself to read the suggested material so that you are up to speed on where the group stands, otherwise you become a distraction to the group and in the end you're slowing your own development.

It sounds to me that it could have been closer to the Sun most likely!
Apparently the people who were able to make petroglyphs did so while the sun was closer to the earth. There is a tradition that the earth was closer to the sun but I forget which civilization. I'll have to ask my friend and see if he remembers who compiled that research. When he told me about it I wasn't able to find the research whether is be books or a video series

As I understand, ops are part of a bigger soul they're not soulless. Brothers in different stage of evolution
Essentially all OPs learn as a group for a single soul

It's not a mystery.

In the material of Ra (Law of One) it is explained.

The third density experience is exclusively for the choice to occur (STO or STS) and the veil of forgetfulness is necessary for the choice to be genuine.

In the rest of the densities the being has already chosen its path and the veil of oblivion is not necessary, which is why the experiences of other lives are remembered in fourth density.

This is very basic, but it is evident to me that you have not read Ra's (Law of One) material.
Thanks for this answer. I wasn't sure if reading Ra would be necessary after reading the wave and the transcripts but I'll make a point of reading it.
 
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