Show #15: No Ordinary Inside Job: The 9/11 Psy-Ops

Guardian said:
QuantumLogic said:
Guardian said:
QuantumLogic said:
One thing I noticed during the show today was that the chat room didn't get really bad until Ark came on to ask Judy some questions.

What chat room?

The chat for the show that loads under the player.

Do you mean the "comments" or am I missing a feature?

You're right. BlogTalkRadio calls it "Comments". Sorry for the confusion.
 
QuantumLogic said:
You're right. BlogTalkRadio calls it "Comments". Sorry for the confusion.

Ah, ok...not a problem, I just thought there might be some Java window I didn't have enabled or something like that.
 
QuantumLogic said:
One thing I noticed during the show today was that the chat room didn't get really bad until Ark came on to ask Judy some questions. For one, it seemed as though she purposely kept cutting Ark off- perhaps to prevent the questions being asked at all. But it really went south when Ark mentioned thoughts being a form of energy. The followers in the chat room immediately attacked him for that and began implying that the show was a psyop, slinging vulgarities and ad hominem comments.

What I'm wondering now is if Ark hit a little too close to the mark with the comment about thoughts being energy. Perhaps the goal of this particular group is to perpetuate the notion that it was an unknown piece of technology that caused the towers to fall, when in fact it could be thought power that was harnessed through hyper-dimensional means with no corresponding technological device in our realm.

Just a thought... :)
I watched the video on Judy's website before the show as I wondered what she has to say. that made her points on radio show understandable, but she wants to talk. I felt that she has some good points. she got agitated with Ark's entry and this pete sentilli guy was a bully in the chat room. pete and 'blah blah blog' guys literally hijacked the thread and frantically posted saying they want to protect us from the psy-op's . At one point they confessed that they are the psy-op. page admin can look at the chat text, if admin's have the chat log.

reading further on the links posted before here it is smelling bad .
_http://911blogger.com/node/18474
My Really, Really Bad Judy Wood Experience
Because apparently, there are a number of people who take Judy Wood's idea that Directed Energy Weapons, or "Space Beams" demolished the WTC seriously. Indeed, seriously enough to include her prominently in a Draft Bill that has been circulated to a few members of Congress, and written about at OpEdNews.com.

This, even after Wood and Reynolds were practically laughed out of the (Federal) Southern District Court of New York this past June. I strongly encourage anyone who has not read this memo detailing the decision on their case to do so;
...
These junk lawsuits filed by Wood and her cohorts seem designed to fail. Certainly, the consequences of the lawsuit filed in Judge+Daniels'+Southern+District+Court are plain: he rejected the claims "with prejudice", which puts and end to Wood's claim in his court, but there can be little doubt that Judge Daniels will forget this matter any time soon.

This means that any future cases about alternative explanations about the collapses of the towers, filed in the Southern District Court which "has jurisdiction over and summons jurors from the counties of New York, Bronx, Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, Orange, Dutchess, and Sullivan" could be tainted by junk science and ideas that have no way of being tested, and thus, no way of being a viable hypothesis.

Apparently, repetition is the key here, so I will now provide the links to the letters and papers which strongly refute the Space Beams concept once again. They are available for download from the Journal of 9/11 Studies, and it is a very good idea to read them all, if you have not already done so;

straw men setup ?

Now this link

Pete Santilli Exposed as a Liar and Sociopath, Susanne Posel and Vinny Eastwood 26Feb2013
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW1h5DxlmrE

It is sounding like Judy wood is the boss who pulls the strings not the pete. these guys are no longer about the truth. they are about self interest. they are good as long as their point is taken else they go into agitated/bully mode.
 
seek10 said:
QuantumLogic said:
One thing I noticed during the show today was that the chat room didn't get really bad until Ark came on to ask Judy some questions. For one, it seemed as though she purposely kept cutting Ark off- perhaps to prevent the questions being asked at all. But it really went south when Ark mentioned thoughts being a form of energy. The followers in the chat room immediately attacked him for that and began implying that the show was a psyop, slinging vulgarities and ad hominem comments.

What I'm wondering now is if Ark hit a little too close to the mark with the comment about thoughts being energy. Perhaps the goal of this particular group is to perpetuate the notion that it was an unknown piece of technology that caused the towers to fall, when in fact it could be thought power that was harnessed through hyper-dimensional means with no corresponding technological device in our realm.

Just a thought... :)
I watched the video on Judy's website before the show as I wondered what she has to say. that made her points on radio show understandable, but she wants to talk. I felt that she has some good points. she got agitated with Ark's entry and this pete sentilli guy was a bully in the chat room. pete and 'blah blah blog' guys literally hijacked the thread and frantically posted saying they want to protect us from the psy-op's . At one point they confessed that they are the psy-op. page admin can look at the chat text, if admin's have the chat log.

The chat log web address is in post#90, the first post on page 7. I copied it to a text file and am removing all of the "enter room" and "leave room" entries so the conversations are more understandable.
 
QuantumLogic said:
I have attached a .txt file of the chat room log that has been trimmed of all of the room traffic timestamps(entering and quitting) for anyone that wants it.

THANK YOU for making this a bit easier!
 
Laura said:
Guardian said:
I'm listening to the whole thing again, both to find where I think she said it could have been done by a "Lone Person" and to hear Lisa's part, but I've figured out why this woman bugs me so much. I'm only at the beginning, but she's already claiming absolutes.

How can someone with a PhD have ANY absolutes regarding anything in this world? There could be Beings sharing this space with us, or who can enter our space, who could have done 9-11 with the power of their minds...or whatever they call what they think with, IF they even "think" like we think thinking is?

Interesting also that she insisted on being addressed as "Doctor" and Ark, on the other hand, prefers to be just "Ark" to everyone.

In the classical music world there is a similar phenomena. Those individuals with PhD, or DMA or some other doctorate, 9 times out of 10, insist on being called by their title, yet as far as proficiency on their given instrument, would never - at least in a super-majority of cases - be able to win and keep a performance job. It seems to be a case of 'form over substance'.

Kris
 
I suggest to the assembled multitude that we not throw away good questions along with those rude, overly self-important people who are asking them, even if they do have unpleasant camp followers with them.

I listened to about 10 minutes of the SoTT Radio stream before I abandoned it. It did not go very well.

However, I've viewed Dr. Woods' presentation, and she asks a critically important question about the 9/11 events: What caused the World Trade Center twin towers to fall and *turn into dust* in NYC on 9/11?

I won't defend her behaviour on the SoTT Radio show, or those of her followers on the online chat.

However, her fundamental question is a good one.
 
I haven't had the time to read this whole thread and unfortunately I was unable to listen to this show live today, had to catch the re-run when I got home from work, so I am a little late here. I don't have much time to post, gotta get up with the roosters tomorrow, but I just want to say a few things if I may.

First, I have been reading Judy Wood's book (for awhile actually, I am by no means a scientist). And I am finding it very interesting, at least what I can understand of it. I was very surprised to hear her speak. I found her defensive attitude unsettling. It was very disappointing that she would not even engage Ark in any conversation or even rational debate. She wouldn't even let him speak. So, no scientific peer review allowed? And she irked me with her analogies and her giggles. At one point I even found myself praying, 'Jesus save me from Dr Woods followers'. But respectfully, maybe she is just accustomed to having to defend her work?

I do agree with her statement that we can't we find the answers without first knowing what is the Question. (or something similar) And I applaud her that she would do such due diligence in investigating the evidence. But 9/11 is not Just a Scientific investigation. This is also a Criminal investigation. And in a Criminal investigation the first and foremost question is WHO DONE IT?. And all the evidence is collected for that end. It is more important to find out Who done it and Why. This goes to motive. The Big Fives Who, What, When, Where, Why. And in my opinion the Who and Why supersede the How. Not to say that the How in not important, and can certainly aid in leading the way to the Who and maybe even the Why. But it does no good to find out how the towers (et al) came down without further investigation/thought into who and why. And by the way, she contradicted herself when she stated that she knows who is responsible. The same people that took her to court. The "They" that Joe, or maybe Niall, one of you guys asked her about. But let's not assume without evidence?!

Second, I would like to thank you guys for having Lisa G on the show. It seems that maybe it didn't play out as well as planned (with all the Judy followers interrupting and all) so unfortunately not enough time left to address the more important issues surrounding the Big False Flag known as 9/11. Maybe another show in the future for more of that?

Anyway, Thank you all ...Joe, Niall, and a special thanks to Jason for his humor and for 'keeping it real'. And Pierre for your patience, you had a special way with Dr Judy.
 
Vulcan59 said:
Lisa Guliani said:
I don't recall Judy Wood being around the 9/11 truth scene in 2005. Maybe in 2006. She was a member of the Scholars for 9/11 truth group for a while.

FWIW, some background info on Judy Woods.

From the above link:
In 2005, Dr. Judy Wood joined the DemocraticUnderground.com (DU) message board where I had already been a member for a couple of years. She used the handle "janedoe" and would engage in back and forth posting battles with the resident 9/11 trolls and debunkers, with varying+degrees+of+success. Wood seemed a natural ally, and I engaged in some friendly correspondence with janedoe, via the DU message board, which later moved to email communications...

I think I tracked down the earliest post for janedoe at DU - Jun-28-05.

_http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1893131&mesg_id=1893199

Fun if it was her on DU considering the show today with SOTT that the message is:
I think #3 was meant to say,
9/11 was an inside job.

I tried to create an account and log into DU, so that I could view janedoe's profile and maybe all the posts, but got this error "Sorry, user registration has been temporarily turned off by the administrator of this website. Please try again later," Looks like the error is due to updating of the website and maybe someone could find a way to janedoe's posts from the updated site.

Also, the earliest date for an article or video I could find on her webpage is dated April 2005 _http://drjudywood.com/articles/BBE/BilliardBalls.html
 
Guardian said:
QuantumLogic said:
I have attached a .txt file of the chat room log that has been trimmed of all of the room traffic timestamps(entering and quitting) for anyone that wants it.

THANK YOU for making this a bit easier!

You are welcome. I just thought it would be good to have for those who did not have the opportunity to listen to the show live and be involved in the chat room. In searching for more on this guy Santilli it would seem he has had battles with all the other major disinfo sites- Alex Jones, Before it's News, The Real News Online- the list goes on and on. In his company Santilli & Associates, I'm wondering who his "associates" are. There might be some interesting links there.

Off to bed- it's been an interesting and enlightening day.
 
Humility is not a strong point in Mrs. Wood. Also communication. Maybe her book is excellent but after listening to her I doubt I will pay for it. :halo: Laura has a point that tells alot, the fact that Judy Wood wanted to be called Doctor; and Ark was clear, humble and human. When you are a scientist you have to try to give your thinking as simple as possible for normal and ignorant people like me if you want to give a message, your knowledge, etc. It was by the way a very interesting show and I congratulate the interviewers for their good sense of humor, their patience, their humility and good education. Under my humble point of vue, Mrs. Wood was not well educated in this program, forgetting the basic law of an interview that is: respect for the other, listening other points of thinking, listening and trying to clarify as most as possible. And yes, the book of Laura and Joe it is for me the most educational research about this subject, that is not just a fascinating subject but the cause of this horrible world situation that we are living now.

Listening to Mrs. Wood was like being in a big mass of fog, without air or light then suddenly, when she went, fog disappeared and cleared away and then we were again humans trying to understand something, exchanging ideas, communicating. Thanks to all of you.
 
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