The Vegetarian Myth
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mcb
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Very definite issue. Unfortunately I gained weight while being treated for a health problem last year. Right now I just don't wear anything that is too tight. The weight gain has stopped, but weight loss without starving myself is proving challenging, as I had read it might be.Gertrudes said:
Megan said:
I don't remember Sidney Baker's take on autism, but I do remember that Dr. Hyman spoke a lot about it in the Ultra Mind solution, and how gut problems were indeed so related to autism.
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A light came on in my head within the last hour. I have been blocking out one of the symptoms, maybe because it involves something we don't usually care to think about. Ever since my "vegan phase," starting in early 1996, I have noticed "floating stools" most of the time. I don't know if it was that way before or not, but that is when I started noticing it. What I just realized is that there is a correlation between autistic spectrum disorders and fat metabolism issues, and floating stool is associated with fat metabolism issues as well. As I shift away from plant foods to meat and try to increase fat, I may be creating a new problem for myself.
At least I don't have a problem with "pale stool." I did sometimes have it last year, during treatment, but afterward as I revised my diet it went away. I think it is related to lack of bile?
I am going to try digestive enzymes and a bile acid supplement and see what happens. I have stopped all other supplements except magnesium, fish oil, and my VC/NAC/ALA "detox cocktail." If this affects either the gas/fermentation problem or the floating stools then I will know I am on to something.
I am sure you are correct and considering what she actually is advocating which is militancy it is in my opinion also all right to be explicit. Because it is militancy. The hints are in the chapter and details are here: _http://deepgreenresistance.org/dew/phase2/Megan said:
Thank you I'll look through it. Today I was thinking that I ought to consider a little more exercise. The paleo-diet was for paleo-people of whom many probably did more exercise than what I get around to.RedFox said:
I'm certainly finding that I've got more zest and energy since I've increased my intake of animal fat and protein, especially when I'm walking or out and about cycling. Provided I have a big breakfest of bacon, ham and duck eggs I find that I can keep going without feeling hungry until late in the afternoons. I'm also slowly reducing the amount of carbs that i consume and wonder if I should abandon vegetables altogether after reading The Vegetarian Myth (about 2/3s of the way through it at the moment).
The book is both truly enlightening and somewhat depressing at the same time. Agriculture, perhaps a 'gift' from the gods/ hyperdimensional - maybe - but if this is so, it seems likely a present from those of a STS orientation. Perhaps introduced to some surviving tribes/ peoples after the last great cataclysmic earth changes circa 13, 000 years ago? Whatever the truth, agriculture now looks like a huge step backwards for the human race with all of its negative associations concerning health, destruction of biodiversity, removal of the topsoil, chemical pollution, conquest and enslavement of other lands and peoples and all the rest of it. Agriculture equals progress? It appears to be that quite the opposite is the case.
I was in the car with my mother the other day. She said my breath stank. I just thought that because of my increased meat consumption I needed to brush my teeth more thoroughly. I now know that is a sign of ketosis - so at least it shows that I'm on the right path :).
The book is both truly enlightening and somewhat depressing at the same time. Agriculture, perhaps a 'gift' from the gods/ hyperdimensional - maybe - but if this is so, it seems likely a present from those of a STS orientation. Perhaps introduced to some surviving tribes/ peoples after the last great cataclysmic earth changes circa 13, 000 years ago? Whatever the truth, agriculture now looks like a huge step backwards for the human race with all of its negative associations concerning health, destruction of biodiversity, removal of the topsoil, chemical pollution, conquest and enslavement of other lands and peoples and all the rest of it. Agriculture equals progress? It appears to be that quite the opposite is the case.
I was in the car with my mother the other day. She said my breath stank. I just thought that because of my increased meat consumption I needed to brush my teeth more thoroughly. I now know that is a sign of ketosis - so at least it shows that I'm on the right path :).
Guardian
The Cosmic Force
Gimpy said:
I think you're gonna love what this lady writes from about the first page on :)
Personally, I have NEVER liked vegetables. I learned how to palm my veggies off to the dog at about age 3, and never looked back. I've been harassed by the Veggi-terrorians in the Pagan community for decades, and it's so wonderful to meet folks outside the Heathen Community who don't condemn me just for eating what makes my soulcar run good.... MEAT.
Kniall said:
I just got told at work politely that my breath was bad. I think it's also the HCL I take, which makes me belch a lot. But it's not really necessary.
I was looking at xylitol gum and mints, and a lot have soy lecithin or some other stuff. Then I found a mostly organic herb spray here. I think you could make your own mints or gum too.
D Rusak
Jedi Council Member
Wow, this book is huge for me! I am glad everyone, especially Laura, has suggested to read it. I am only at chapter 3 but already it is really pushing me over a threshhold, I REALLY feel I must check out where the meats I am eating have come from (I have tried to eat grass fed/organic- well even "organic" does not mean so much these days, but you get the idea. Sometimes I wasn't so careful, especially when money is an option). Now I am researching local providers and where I can get their meats. I am trying to see if someone local might be able to share part of a cow for the best deal, but it's going to be a few months before I'll be financially able to invest in this (and a small freezer). In the meantime it gives me a little time to figure out the best place to order from. Really one has to focus on farmer's markets, at least in my area, which is good in general for food-buying. Also I am researching some other types of meat, there is an interesting site that sells antelope, wild boar, etc that are pasture raised, at around 7-9 dollars per pound for lesser cuts.
One thing which others have recounted is that once one shifts into this diet, yes, the meat gets more expensive, but other "necessary" grocery items one does not have to buy anymore, so your price goes down there.
I am feeling better mentally and energy-wise definitely now that I've been eating meat again for a couple months. I am not having a problem digesting extra fat but I still don't love it. I am trying to slowly up the portions of it by cooking in fattier fats (this makes sense to you guys, right? ;)) and increasing the amount of "good" fats I like at this point- coconut oil, olive oil if not heated, ghee, and now lard and/or duck fat.
I have been eating a sweet potato some days to go with organic sausage, and it is good to soak up fat. A small salad of local greens on many days with a good olive oil dressing and lemons from the front yard, and some avocado, local if I can find it. When I have been making blinis lately I am trying blanched almond flour instead of buckwheat and this I feel is great, I have a lot of energy from these but they are tasty (and, can soak up even more fat with some ghee or duck fat applied on top). One thing I am happy to say is that I scored a really great deal on a FIR blanket last week on the local classifieds, so my hope is that this will aid my detox and subsequent ratio change between fat/protein/carbs.
I definitely have met some extremist "activist" vegans over the years, and yes, the flavor is very much the same as a religious zealot. I don't feel I was one of them but hopefully the damage I did to myself was minimal. Luckily, the people I see often at my school (tcm and acupuncture) are pretty open-minded, and many of us have been heading in the primal/paleo direction anyway, they are open to research and discussion which is a nice change for me at least, and no one bothers me about what I eat.
One thing which others have recounted is that once one shifts into this diet, yes, the meat gets more expensive, but other "necessary" grocery items one does not have to buy anymore, so your price goes down there.
I am feeling better mentally and energy-wise definitely now that I've been eating meat again for a couple months. I am not having a problem digesting extra fat but I still don't love it. I am trying to slowly up the portions of it by cooking in fattier fats (this makes sense to you guys, right? ;)) and increasing the amount of "good" fats I like at this point- coconut oil, olive oil if not heated, ghee, and now lard and/or duck fat.
I have been eating a sweet potato some days to go with organic sausage, and it is good to soak up fat. A small salad of local greens on many days with a good olive oil dressing and lemons from the front yard, and some avocado, local if I can find it. When I have been making blinis lately I am trying blanched almond flour instead of buckwheat and this I feel is great, I have a lot of energy from these but they are tasty (and, can soak up even more fat with some ghee or duck fat applied on top). One thing I am happy to say is that I scored a really great deal on a FIR blanket last week on the local classifieds, so my hope is that this will aid my detox and subsequent ratio change between fat/protein/carbs.
I definitely have met some extremist "activist" vegans over the years, and yes, the flavor is very much the same as a religious zealot. I don't feel I was one of them but hopefully the damage I did to myself was minimal. Luckily, the people I see often at my school (tcm and acupuncture) are pretty open-minded, and many of us have been heading in the primal/paleo direction anyway, they are open to research and discussion which is a nice change for me at least, and no one bothers me about what I eat.
Gimpy
The Living Force
Guardian said:
The tracking page said it would arrive today, and it didn't.
I do like certain veggies, but they were seasonal growing up: green beans, zucinni squash, and fresh morel mushrooms are the top three. I don't think it will break my heart to reduce the amount of veggies I eat, but I do know it will alarm my extended family, and drive my doctors bonkers.
Hubby is showing definite signs of digging his heels in about certain things. He loves to cook, and eat a wide variety of dishes, and he can't argue with the facts provided, but I don't see him adopting a meat based diet the way I intend to. He still has a hard time accepting that he is growing older, and that means he needs to face the fact that he can't eat whatever he wants anymore. 
What tends to happen? I spend the most energy cooking our food, and I make sure we have plenty of meat, and at least one kind of veggie. When he cooks, he tends to do the same thing, but when its his turn to cook, or I'm not feeling well, he brings home whatever he knows I can eat from a restaurant, and then eats what he wants. (He's actually more vigilant about my food when this happens, because he's seen what happens when I get a wild hair up my nose and eat something I shouldn't even look at.)
We do what we can, though. :D
Guardian
The Cosmic Force
Gimpy said:
I hear ya hon...I've never paid much attention to what people tell me I should and should not eat either, ESPECIALLY the so called "experts"
Choosing my food always seemed kinda simple to me. If something makes me fart, I shouldn't eat it...if something makes me fart REALLY loud, I REALLY shouldn't eat it.
