Third density repetition

[BlueKiwi]

During this transition period, perhaps those 20 million or so wanderers phase out here on STS earth, and they will have to deal with the 4d STS invasion/control elements and personnel. As their 'terms of service' or 'tour of duty' is usually a couple eons, right? Some will of course do extra tours... gives them something to do, no? especially the 6d wanderers. Essentially, they are like stem cells in the bodies, going where needed. If this is accurate, then they wouldn't graduate to 4d STO Earth as Eden on the other side of the Tree of Life

I'm not sure I understand you here, but I think that being 6D they have already graduated 4D and 5D. They are probably incarnated here to help in an STO fashion when asked appropriately.

The risk of incarnating here for them is the chance of losing STO polarisation though.

The 2nd eon available to the PreAdamics/OPs would mainly be the final phaseout of 3dSTS here and the whole thing would repeat as needed. Their goal is to get kick about until they individuate, right? If 3dSTS seeks graduation by basic karma work and simple understandings, then what is the 'individuation' requirements for a OP to go Adamic? some sort of basic individuation level, no? Isn't that basically how they got to the PreAdamic/OP level?

I'm not sure if OP's do any sort of "graduation" of any sort. They are soulless entities, like walking lessons here for us to learn from - how to deal with them, and not be manipulated by them.

The OP's that do manage to amass enough energy, and survive the 2nd death, however, can go on though, according to this :

Q: (hesperides) Do psychopaths automatically disintegrate through the 2nd death process?

A: Not exactly. A crystallized psychopath can become something akin to a demon.

On another note, I don't think it's been asked if the wave applies to all densities - will my cat have a chance to graduate to 3D as well ?

I wonder..

 

[Ricardo]

I'm not sure I understand you here, but I think that being 6D they have already graduated 4D and 5D. They are probably incarnated here to help in an STO fashion when asked appropriately.

The risk of incarnating here for them is the chance of losing STO polarisation though.



I'm not sure if OP's do any sort of "graduation" of any sort. They are soulless entities, like walking lessons here for us to learn from - how to deal with them, and not be manipulated by them.

The OP's that do manage to amass enough energy, and survive the 2nd death, however, can go on though, according to this :



On another note, I don't think it's been asked if the wave applies to all densities - will my cat have a chance to graduate to 3D as well ?

I wonder..

Yes ( Session 4 April 2015 )
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Q: (Galatea) Speaking of pets, I wanted to ask if it's possible to take pets into 4D with you?

A: In some instances if there is sufficient bonding so as to increase the FRV of the 2D creature. In the case of Sebastian, being loved by so many, this is possible.

Q: (L) So you kind of piggyback him. So, you're saying that some creatures can skip 3D?

A: Rare, but possible.
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[Wandering Star]

Yes ( Session 4 April 2015 )
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Q: (Galatea) Speaking of pets, I wanted to ask if it's possible to take pets into 4D with you?

A: In some instances if there is sufficient bonding so as to increase the FRV of the 2D creature. In the case of Sebastian, being loved by so many, this is possible.

Q: (L) So you kind of piggyback him. So, you're saying that some creatures can skip 3D?

A: Rare, but possible.
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If densities are levels of consciousness, for me there is no way to understand this paragraph, beyond the wishes and illusions expressed by the participants in the question.

 

[Wandering Star]

Yes ( Session 4 April 2015 )
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Q: (Galatea) Speaking of pets, I wanted to ask if it's possible to take pets into 4D with you?

A: In some instances if there is sufficient bonding so as to increase the FRV of the 2D creature. In the case of Sebastian, being loved by so many, this is possible.

Q: (L) So you kind of piggyback him. So, you're saying that some creatures can skip 3D?

A: Rare, but possible.
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It's actually simpler.

In the Ra material it says that there will be no third density on the planet for a time (yellow ray), so there will be first, second and fourth "running" for a time.

And...

Surely the second density that remains will be the one that can adapt to the environment needed for fourth density to work.

I've thought about this while trying to make some sense of the paragraph.

 

[bozadi]

If densities are levels of consciousness, for me there is no way to understand this paragraph, beyond the wishes and illusions expressed by the participants in the question.

Yes, I think I understand you perfectly but you'll also remember some non-linear facts stated before, which might shed some different light on the matter. For instance, we are 3D but then we are 5D between incarnations. In fact, the C's say that even during an incarnation some part of us remains in 5D. We don't incarnate with 100% of our being, we never leave 5D completely. I think Michael Newton also said something like that in one of his books. Then, our higher self is us in 6D. Last but not least, you'll remember, the C's say that 7D is our "eternal abode", and that all is 7D. I know this is not a very clear explanation as to how a 2D pet can skip 3D to live with its owners in 4D even if this is said to be rare. I can't exactly comprehend it as well. But doesn't sound competely impossible after it is repeatedly told that all is one and time doesn't exist. Also, "True love conquers all", you know :)

 

[bozadi]

And what about "flying rods", the so-called "bird-like" beings of 4D? Did they graduate from 3D? Or were they created directly in 4D? Are they exactly 4D in consciousness??

 

[happyliza]

Thank you, @Nienna for the excerpts.



This also confirms that graduation is made after making the choice.

But I also came across the following, which might be confirming @Fluffy's point of view:



Although the statements above seem to suggest that the so-called "thousands years" will be experienced in 4D, I think it is rather 3D. But this might not be as black-or-white as I thought. The sentence suggests to me that people on 3D and 4D will coexist for some time during "the millenium" until finally all the remaning candidates make the transition.

I have only caught up to your post atm.
However, I think there could be another interpretations to:
"Some will be there at the beginning, others will need more time."
I feel that this could mean that those who have totally lost any attraction to anything materialistic, or their body, nor have any addictions of any kind - eg they have nothing to keep them attached to a body have the chance to immediately become totally non physical in 4D.
Their vibration is already such that it becomes totally natural to live in a 100% spirit state. Perhaps they spent a lot of time helping in their spiritual state, when asleep, or voluntarily having OBE's in order to do charitable work on a nightly or whenever needed basis?
That is only one example. But having already learned all lessons here, and very aware of the other side of the veil, then there are no shocks or surprises for them to become aquainted with with this change, or at least far fewer than the majority of people who will be new to the 4D environment so have many new experiences, thought reality, volition STO deeds/charitable work/teams etc so get acclimatised with.
So the whole transformation process, as well as accommodating the STO choices can take more or less 'time' according to the similar process of 'dying' and the many places, you can get stuck in or vast universes you can experience etc.
There are so many variables, as each person has strong and weak areas differently.
These new lessons are learned at 4D as the C's say because we don't know what 4D lessons are about at the moment. Again, there maybe a very few that possible have a better idea?
In 3 D if we voluntarily leave our bodies we have the option to be free of a body image or remain secret/hidden from entities we would rather not know we were i their environs, maybe for our safety. What we also think can also attract unwanted behavioiur. How we can use our energies to repel psychic attacks/unwanted behaviour. Al this will be par for the course and much much more!
Basically, I think people will just ride a bike once they are ready to ride a bike. And for those with a bit more time needed they can use extra stabilzer wheels

 

[Wandering Star]

they have nothing to keep them attached to a body have the chance to immediately become totally non physical in 4D.
Their vibration is already such that it becomes totally natural to live in a 100% spirit state.

The fourth density is physical, variable and capable of judicial administration, but it is still physical, according to the C's and the Law of One of the Ra material.

 

[happyliza]

The fourth density is physical, variable and capable of judicial administration, but it is still physical, according to the C's and the Law of One of the Ra material.

I would say that unless the frequency is not high enough to be non physical, it will will remain physical until it can be variable? And those who have good frequency and higher knowledge able able to be non physical, variable or physical by choice. That they have the choice to be what they wish, according to the tasks, or entities, that they are with.

 

[Wandering Star]

I would say that unless the frequency is not high enough to be non physical, it will will remain physical until it can be variable? And those who have good frequency and higher knowledge able able to be non physical, variable or physical by choice. That they have the choice to be what they wish, according to the tasks, or entities, that they are with.

A ghost is still physical, for example.

It remains in the electromagnetic environment of third density, otherwise it could not be perceived occasionally.

Non-physical is from fifth density onwards.

 

[bozadi]

@happyliza Yes, I think the possibilities you mentioned are in line with the statement, "Some will be there at the beginning, others will need more time." And this also reminds me of the Ra's explanation, "There is resistance at the edge, shall we say, of each density. " Graduation to a new density requires overcoming a significant resistance, apparently. This sounds fair since graduation to a new level of being is a significant transformation.

Isn't it also possible that, more or less, we are experiencing that transformation complex right now? You know, we read, watch, and discuss much about the differrence between STS and STO, work on self, ego, how to diminish ego's grip on us, positivity vs negativity etc. So we kind of know what we need to do for ourselves but our realm or environment has so much that complicates what we need to do! A very negative status quo still prevails, although we expect conditions to change radically in the course of the climbing chaos.

 

[bozadi]

The fourth density is physical, variable and capable of judicial administration, but it is still physical, according to the C's and the Law of One of the Ra material.

It seems that 4D is the mid-density between physical densities and non-physical densities (at least for the short wave?). The C's say 4D is "partially physical". I think it was said that sometimes it can be very physical, sometimes semi-physical, and sometimes non-physical (mostly semi-physical, I think).

 

[Wandering Star]

It seems that 4D is the mid-density between physical densities and non-physical densities (at least for the short wave?). The C's say 4D is "partially physical". I think it was said that sometimes it can be very physical, sometimes semi-physical, and sometimes non-physical (mostly semi-physical, I think).

Yes, that is what has been said.

There is variability, but there is still a physical body and one is born.

This body will change progressively with the following generations. More and more capabilities along the lines of what you have said in your comment. (Ra - Law of one)

 

[bozadi]

And there's this:

A: (...) fourth density physicality is not the same as third density physicality. But that is not to say that there is no physicality in fourth density. In order to completely remove all attachment to physicality, one must reach sixth density or higher. Everything below that involves some aspect of physicality or attachment to physicality; as in fifth density, the contemplation zone, which is simply a recycling of those from 1st through 4th densities, in the etheric plane.

Even though 5D is an ethereal (non-physical) density, it still partially involves it because of recycling of souls that experience physicality!

 

[bozadi]

The issue of resistance to change/transformation attracts my attention as I observe the same in my experience.

Formerly, I felt that it's not ethical to be positive in the face of all the evil negativity that dominates life. After familiarizing with the C's material, in particular, I began to consciously notice my mental programming to negative or pessimistic thinking. Now I can see that without being positive I can essentially do nothing either for myself or for others.

Of course, there's an issue of balance there. The sense of positivity I meant is not about being insensitive to the pains of others. I'm not talking about new-agey toxic positivity. Also, a seemingly violent or enraged reaction can actually be based on some truly positive awareness deep inside one's psyche. You know, some humane "revolutionary" reaction against some bad status quo. This can encourage others for cooperation towards a common positive goal.

What I especially try to mean by positivity is about some basic awareness of the biggest, deepest, and simplest reality. Positivity is being. Past 4D or maybe mid-4D, "all beings" have to gradually increase their STO polarity (positivity) and decrease their STS polarity (negativity) to get closer and closer to the core of existence. And as the C's say, "positivity" is what eventually will deter STS beings from messing with us due to incompatibility of frequencies. So, there's a significant relation between positivity/being and knowldge/awareness. The C's emphasized a lot, "Mirth is good!", "Mirth should never stop!", etc. because mirth/posivitity contains a deep knowledge or awareness.

Knowing this, it gives me pain to notice how much of my time I have negative thoughts and emotions. Some of it is very natural, of course. I can't even imagine a completely uninterrupted process of being positive or in high spirits. And it's also so natural and almost inescapable to have bad times, diseases, disasters, traumas, etc. Continuously witnessing such a world is a constant trauma in itself, even if we are kind of accustomed to it.

Our status quo, our realm, our mundane reality dumps so much negativity on us continuously. I believe and I sense that true positivity is capable of balancing and overcoming all the degenerative effects of the negativity we are being bombarded with from inside and outside us. But true positivity is of a different realm, a different reality, very incompatible with the one we must be more-or-less compatible with now.

Truly committing to positivity (to being and awareness) requires radically reforming one's life, I believe. It's like religion. It's like one's relation to God/Goodness. Something must come before all else. Something that is worth it. I feel I face such a transformation.