Third density repetition

[Ricardo]

Well , also , divinity's first movement is love , which is what religion presents us , ( as an orthodox Pastafarian ) to quote the Prophet Bob Marley "cold you be loved "

 

[Fluffy]

A ghost is still physical, for example.

It remains in the electromagnetic environment of third density, otherwise it could not be perceived occasionally.

Non-physical is from fifth density onwards.

I interpret variable physicality as anything from as dense as a rock though to nothing but mind depending of the choice made for the necessity of the experience.
For example, thoughts travel in an instant, so this would imply that to move from one space to another there would be a need for zero physicality in between. This is already experienced somewhat in 3D courtesy of the internet, fax, radio broadcasting etc (which I think those are preparatory for 4D inclinations) intuition, remote viewing, remotes healing .. other psychic abilities… and what about trans dimensional re-molecularization between 3 and 4D.

At the highest octave of 4D is preparing for graduation to 6D, also from my understanding but I could be wrong, probably, but being the case would mean that at that highest level of 4D the physicality has become not only undesirable but also unnecessary.

I like this thread, it’s fun and get the mind very curious.

 

[Fluffy]

The issue of resistance to change/transformation attracts my attention as I observe the same in my experience.

Formerly, I felt that it's not ethical to be positive in the face of all the evil negativity that dominates life. After familiarizing with the C's material, in particular, I began to consciously notice my mental programming to negative or pessimistic thinking. Now I can see that without being positive I can essentially do nothing either for myself or for others.

Of course, there's an issue of balance there. The sense of positivity I meant is not about being insensitive to the pains of others. I'm not talking about new-agey toxic positivity. Also, a seemingly violent or enraged reaction can actually be based on some truly positive awareness deep inside one's psyche. You know, some humane "revolutionary" reaction against some bad status quo. This can encourage others for cooperation towards a common positive goal.

What I especially try to mean by positivity is about some basic awareness of the biggest, deepest, and simplest reality. Positivity is being. Past 4D or maybe mid-4D, "all beings" have to gradually increase their STO polarity (positivity) and decrease their STS polarity (negativity) to get closer and closer to the core of existence. And as the C's say, "positivity" is what eventually will deter STS beings from messing with us due to incompatibility of frequencies. So, there's a significant relation between positivity/being and knowldge/awareness. The C's emphasized a lot, "Mirth is good!", "Mirth should never stop!", etc. because mirth/posivitity contains a deep knowledge or awareness.

Knowing this, it gives me pain to notice how much of my time I have negative thoughts and emotions. Some of it is very natural, of course. I can't even imagine a completely uninterrupted process of being positive or in high spirits. And it's also so natural and almost inescapable to have bad times, diseases, disasters, traumas, etc. Continuously witnessing such a world is a constant trauma in itself, even if we are kind of accustomed to it.

Our status quo, our realm, our mundane reality dumps so much negativity on us continuously. I believe and I sense that true positivity is capable of balancing and overcoming all the degenerative effects of the negativity we are being bombarded with from inside and outside us. But true positivity is of a different realm, a different reality, very incompatible with the one we must be more-or-less compatible with now.

Truly committing to positivity (to being and awareness) requires radically reforming one's life, I believe. It's like religion. It's like one's relation to God/Goodness. Something must come before all else. Something that is worth it. I feel I face such a transformation.

Positivity is the crux of the matter in polarising to STO, in my opinion. Looking out to a negatively charged world with positivity creates a portal of potential, it draws the viewer in and it draws in those around him by virtue of the frequency that is emitted, unless of course those around cannot stand it- then they will naturally fall away toward negativity.

This by far- positive attitude and outlook, is the most difficult thing to maintain and requires contains attention and guarding. It is the protection from negative influence acting as an armour.
I can’t speak for everyone, we all have our roles and missions, but I know for myself that this it above and beyond all importance….it is also the place where I’m most attacked by forces that wish my failure.

 

[Menna]

I wondered why most of humanity would repeat third density and I understood it.
Namely, most people are nondescript, which means that they do not develop STS or STO polarization. The Cassiopaeans themselves said that there was nothing in the middle. Moreover, everyone on this planet considers themselves good and when asked what good things they have done for others, they cannot answer. The only good thing they did was that they didn't do anything bad. Well, because they haven't done anything bad, but they haven't done anything good either, they don't actually do anything and this leads to a lack of development of consciousness. Therefore, most people will not move to the fourth density and will repeat the third density, i.e. 309,000 years of evolution from the beginning.

I wondered why most of humanity would repeat third density and I understood it.
Namely, most people are nondescript, which means that they do not develop STS or STO polarization. The Cassiopaeans themselves said that there was nothing in the middle. Moreover, everyone on this planet considers themselves good and when asked what good things they have done for others, they cannot answer. The only good thing they did was that they didn't do anything bad. Well, because they haven't done anything bad, but they haven't done anything good either, they don't actually do anything and this leads to a lack of development of consciousness. Therefore, most people will not move to the fourth density and will repeat the third density, i.e. 309,000 years of evolution from the beginning.

https://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/light.html

Unfortunately the topic you post about does not happen because of one thing or even two things it’s a multi level nested hierarchy of control and manipulating and influencing…

Even after death (regardless of what one does during their time here) there are forces at play that at the very least influence your compliance to decide to reincarnate for another round this can include, guilt, energy, doubt, duty, narrative and anything between overt and nuanced.

Your point on this topic does have validity because it’s not an effective learning experience to do as you described thus it’s hard to gain knowledge about reality

 

[bozadi]

Positivity is the crux of the matter in polarising to STO, in my opinion. Looking out to a negatively charged world with positivity creates a portal of potential, it draws the viewer in and it draws in those around him by virtue of the frequency that is emitted, unless of course those around cannot stand it- then they will naturally fall away toward negativity.

This by far- positive attitude and outlook, is the most difficult thing to maintain and requires contains attention and guarding. It is the protection from negative influence acting as an armour.
I can’t speak for everyone, we all have our roles and missions, but I know for myself that this it above and beyond all importance….it is also the place where I’m most attacked by forces that wish my failure.

Thank you for sharing that, Fluffy. I agree entirely.

The issue of positivity is both the simplest and also the most complex in our situation. And I feel that it contains some important insight about the issue of "repetition of 3D", which seems to be a problem we've been suffering for a long time.

All the problems we suffer are "fruits" of negativity in this or that way. And we know or we can sense that all the solutions needed will come through increase of positivity or positive polarization. To the extent this view is correct, we're supposed to put positive polarization to the center of our experience/awareness of existence. But we live in a machine which runs 24/7 to subject us to more and more negativity for destroying any positivity that remains. It's simply a game of negativity vs positivity. STS vs STO. Non-being vs Being.

Then, there seems to be another important aspect of the problem:

Questioner: I assume that an entity on either path can decide to choose paths at any time and possibly retrace steps, the path-changing being more difficult the farther along is gone. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The further an entity has, what you would call, polarized, the more easily this entity may change polarity, for the more power and awareness the entity will have.

Those truly helpless are those who have not consciously chosen but who repeat patterns without knowledge of the repetition or the meaning of the pattern.

Ra: (...) To attain fifty-one percent dedication to the welfare of other-selves is as difficult as attaining a grade of five percent dedication to other-selves. The, shall we say, sinkhole of indifference is between those two.

Ra: (...) Prior to the veiling process the measurement would be that of an entity walking up a set of your stairs, each of which was imbued with a certain quality of light. The stair upon which an entity stopped would be either third-density light or fourth-density light. Between the two stairs lies the threshold. To cross that threshold is difficult. There is resistance at the edge, shall we say, of each density. The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density. Those entities which do not do their homework, be they ever so amiable, shall not cross.

It's as if the universe/logos deems "indifference" to be worse than STS polarization. After all, STS polarization will eventually lead back to STO, if the "being" doesn't decide to get non-existent by achieving 100% STS. I'm not sure but I think most STS beings don't choose to go non-existent. STS beings are also subject to gravity. They are also withdrawn to the omnipotent core of existence for their own egostistical reasons and the more they get close to it by increasing their knowledge and awareness, the more they lose STS and gain STO polarity, bound to transition to STO eventually.

I think this is also one of the big parts of the reason why Ra and the C's emphasize the importance of gaining more and more information and knowledge, regardless of its subject. Gaining knowledge is an indication of "attention", "liveliness". Lack of interest in learning or increasing/deepening one's awareness is a sign of decomposition, entropy.

I think this is also a part of the issue of "resistance to change/transformation". The problem is not only about the negative pressures by higher STS beings. The effects of attacks and manipulations by higher STS become more problematic when we are indifferent to it, to either negative or positive polarization.

 

[bozadi]

https://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/light.html

I come across this "light tunnel trap" claim a lot when I search for NDE videos on YT. I think the C's explained that it's not true. It seems to be paranoia at best, and deliberate disinformation & fear-mongering for mind control at worst. I'm certainly not closed to discuss about such a possibility but I think there's no mention of such problem in any of the sources mentioned so far covering afterlife more or less. Ra, the C's, other channelled materials, Michael Newton and others, NDE literature, etc.

Yes, if one doesn't go to light but remain on earth when one dies, there are various possibilities, and STS manipulations can be a part of that but I think this would still be exception, not the rule (and STS manipulation after disincarnation doesn't necessarily mean "light tunnel trap" either). And I think most of souled beings (and even OP's) do go to 5D when they die.

The world is problematic enough. Going to the rest & contemplation zone is a great balance and healing.

 

[bozadi]

I think this is also one of the big parts of the reason why Ra and the C's emphasize the importance of gaining more and more information and knowledge, regardless of its subject. Gaining knowledge is an indication of "attention", "liveliness". Lack of interest in learning or increasing/deepening one's awareness is a sign of decomposition, entropy.

And of course, "looking inside" (work on self) is also a learning. During meditative practices, one doesn't seem to be in a classical process of learning as in reading, watching, or discussing some issue. But probably the most important learning is one's learning about oneself, as in "know yourself". Outer and inner increase of awarenes balance and support each other, I think.

 

[BlueKiwi]

It's as if the universe/logos deems "indifference" to be worse than STS polarization. After all, STS polarization will eventually lead back to STO, if the "being" doesn't decide to get non-existent by achieving 100% STS. I'm not sure but I think most STS beings don't choose to go non-existent. STS beings are also subject to gravity. They are also withdrawn to the omnipotent core of existence for their own egostistical reasons and the more they get close to it by increasing their knowledge and awareness, the more they lose STS and gain STO polarity, bound to transition to STO eventually.

The impression I got from Ra was more of dismay of a very small harvest predicted of us to 4D coming, due to the indifference / non-choice / lack of polarisation either towards STO or STS

I think the balance between STS and STO must always remain equal. The universe always seeks balance, and we see this every day in nature. Sometimes this balance takes some "time" though. So some STS may choose STO at some point, but as the C's say, it is rare that they switch. So i'm not sure if STS, once made as a choice is always bound to to transition to STO eventually.

Considering STS are very wishful thinkers, and see only that which they want to see, I don't think they can even entertain the idea that they will become non-being, or smashed souls. They only seek domination, power and control over everything, and they are slaves to their selfishness.

I think this is also one of the big parts of the reason why Ra and the C's emphasize the importance of gaining more and more information and knowledge, regardless of its subject.

From what I understand, STS would seek to gain knowledge only on how to manipulate others to gain more power and control. They look only for that knowledge which would give them an advantage over others, omitting, or discarding information which would go against their wishful thinking.

I find it interesting as I write this, because it makes me realise that I sometimes catch myself Googling something, finding an answer I don't like, and then just "Googling" until I find the answer I want, which is wishful thinking.

 

[romseguy]

I find it interesting as I write this, because it makes me realise that I sometimes catch myself Googling something, finding an answer I don't like, and then just "Googling" until I find the answer I want, which is wishful thinking.

Confirmation bias rather.

Confirmation bias (also confirmatory bias, myside bias,[a] or congeniality bias[2]) is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.[3] People display this bias when they select information that supports their views, ignoring contrary information, or when they interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing attitudes. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs.

 

[Wandering Star]

And likewise, when a group considers itself elite, when a member of that group dictates a concept contradicting another person who has a different opinion, the rest of the members of that elite will support the concept proposed by their companion without investigating whether it is correct.

 

[bozadi]

I think the balance between STS and STO must always remain equal. The universe always seeks balance, and we see this every day in nature. Sometimes this balance takes some "time" though. So some STS may choose STO at some point, but as the C's say, it is rare that they switch. So i'm not sure if STS, once made as a choice is always bound to to transition to STO eventually.

Yes, I'm sure such a balance is established in some way but, linearly thinking, it seems difficult to explain a full equality between STS and STO after 4D.

A: (...) the fourth level of density, which is the highest level of density one can exist in serving only self...

The highest possible expression of STS seems to be in 4D, after which the polarity of STS has to be gradually diminished from density to density even if STS polarity is not abandoned. But as a being gets closer and closer to 7D, the STS polarity has to be abandoned sooner or later. Ra says somewhere around mid-6D, at the latest, STS is abandoned for STO. Again, Ra says there is no "STS Higher Self". All 6D Higher Selves are STO because no STS being can reach that level (last portion of 6D). I don't recall anything said by the C's to the contrary.

Q: (L) But still, is there an STS experience at 6th density, like the 6th density Orions?

A: These are only reflections of individuals, not unified entities. These reflections exist for balance. They are not whole entities, just thought forms.

You know, to graduate to 4D STS, one needs to attain at least 95% STS! That number is just 5% in distance to a blackhole (non-existence). The C's say blackholes exist only 1D through 4D. Why? Because "materiality/physicality" exist only in 1D through 4D. There's a close relationship between STS and materiality.

Q: Is Ormethion who the Lizzies worship?

A: Close.

Q: Who do they worship? What do they call their god?

A: Physical universe.

Q: The physical universe is their god?

A: Yes.

That's why STS polarity has to be gradually lost after 4D.

On density levels 5 through 7 there is no duality.

You know the basic duality is the one of "spirit and matter". The C's say there's no duality 5D through 7D. And we know that these densities are also the ones within which no physical incarnation takes place. They are not densities of physical experience (although the "recycling function" of 5D naturally involves a certain level of that for the needs of the students of lesser densities).

So, no physicality, no chance of full expression/experience of STS as opposed to STO, the degree of which has to be increased more and more towards 7D. But between 6D and 7D, the term "service to others" also begins to lose its meaning, as the experience of "oneness" gradually prevails (there are no "others"). But then, still, the term "positivity" (being) can still apply I think. So, I believe it can be more accurate to say that 7D (or big bang) is 100% positivity rather than 100% STO although positivity and STO (and negativity and STS) are so closely related.

 

[Nienna]

Speaking of 4D existence; here is what the Cs said:

Q: (P) Next question: How does one determine if they are channeling a 3rd density dead dude, or a higher density being?

A: Corrections and clarifications needed: "Dead Dudes" are 5th density beings. Either they are stuck in 3rd density, or they are communicating from 5th density, not 3rd density!! They are not 3rd density! 1st density includes all physical matter below the level of consciousness. 6th density is uniform in the level pattern of lightness, as there is complete balance on this density level, and the lightness is represented as knowledge. 7th density is union with the one... it is timeless in every sense of the word, as its "essence" radiates through all that exists in all possible awareness realms. The light one sees at the termination of each conscious physical manifestation is the union, itself. Remember, 4th density is the first that includes variable physicality!! Ponder this carefully!!! And, remember, there is only one "God," and that the creator includes all that is created and vice versa!

and:

Q: Okay, she further says regarding the C's views on sex: 'Their view implies very strongly that Humans are conceived in sin after all. That does not mesh with an un-vengeful, benevolent Geometry of Divinity, for me.

A: No, sex is not sin. Neither is food. It is simply physiological. Remember what we told you about variable physicality?

Q: Yes, that 4th density is the level of variability of physicality. Apparently, from what I can understand, when one is in that state, one finds that under most circumstances one would choose the state of pure consciousness rather than the physical, because there would be greater freedom in that state, and therefore, if one is choosing consciously to be in the non-physical state, one would be also choosing to not have sex or eat.

A: Close.

So I would say that 4D is not a purely physical density. One can choose between being in a physical form or consciousness/energy whenever one wishes. That's my take on it.

 

[bozadi]

From what I understand, STS would seek to gain knowledge only on how to manipulate others to gain more power and control. They look only for that knowledge which would give them an advantage over others, omitting, or discarding information which would go against their wishful thinking.

Their extremely strong desire to get knowledge utilizable for manipulation and conquest makes them search through the depths of their being. This desire to reach deeper knowledge/awareness makes them advance towards higher densities (closer and closer to the omnipotent core). At 4D, they face a significant dilemma, I think. Upon seeing that they will have to "give up physical existence" to advance further, some prefer to do so, and some don't. Those who don't will eventually go non-existent, if they don't decide otherwise. And those who decide to "continue" are now bound to switch to STO sooner or later.

 

[bozadi]

So some STS may choose STO at some point, but as the C's say, it is rare that they switch.

It's not "STS" in general but "Lizards" in specific who rarely switch to STO.

C: (...) those who are described as the Lizards have chosen to firmly lock themselves into service to self. And, since they are at the highest level of density where this is possible, they must continually draw large amounts of negative energy from those at the third level, second level, and so on, which is why they do what they do. This also explains why their race is dying, because they have not been able to learn for themselves how to remove themselves from this particular form of expression to that of service to others.

You see, the C's imply that it's only normal for STS beings to switch to STO but that the Lizards "have not been able" to do so and that's why their race is dying. So, if one doesn't want to die, they have to switch to STO sooner or later, because non-existence is the last stop of the STS path.

 

[Ricardo]

Non-existence or learn , kinda what they so diligently have been trying to do unto humanity.