Tom Cox AKA "Montalk"

[syldan]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

FURTHERMORE, and here again many will disagree, and or fight it... But the truth that separates the so-called rulers from the sheeple, is the fact that they know from childhood that we are all ONE. I've been around a little, and I can tell you that the ruling class are thought to Love one another as you love yourself! Wether they put it into practice the way I see it is another story, but that is the only difference, why do you think religious fanatics rule the world? And not you?!

Hard to believe? Of course there is the blood thing that they always bring up, but our bloodlines are so mangled by now that most soul particles will wake up before the transition unless they do us like they're doing in the Middle-East!

Once you start FEELING it, I assure you! ONCE you get this into your system and begin to work it like any other information on the myth of reality we have been fed, it will act! I'm not part of the ruling class, but I understand WHY they've wanted to decimate my ancestors until now. This is part of Native Canadian-American knowledge, and more than likely of all the peoples whose countries end in Tan, like PakisTan, AfghasmacksTan, and the rest, otherwise they wouldn't be so convinced on making our very heritage disappear!

Hear the white man dancing?

 

[Mountain Crown]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

Daniel,

You obviously do not know to whom you are addressing. You are not aware of how foolish you are making yourself appear. Please reconsider your aim.

 

[shijing]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

FURTHERMORE, and here again many will disagree, and or fight it... But the truth that separates the so-called rulers from the sheeple, is the fact that they know from childhood that we are all ONE.

kozmik9, I think you need to calm down a bit and do more reading and less posting for now until you have really gotten a feel for some of the concepts on this forum -- you come across as wanting to preach to an audience you seem to know little about, which is inconsiderate. At an ultimate, very abstract level, yes, we are all one, but in the place we are in right now (third density STS environment) it is important to recognize some crucial distinctions, the most important of which is that between STO and STS. Trying to impose what is essentially a seventh-density truth on a third-density experience will only retard the lessons we are supposed to learn here, as well as putting us in danger (you seem to sort of get this at one level when you talk about the ruling elite, but it is not consonant with the other message you keep pressing about oneness).

AfghasmacksTan

What

Hear the white man dancing?

This is the second post that you have ended with that question. What do you mean? Are you suggesting that the white man is equivalent to the ruling class and that things are that simple?

 

[Mountain Crown]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

Hi shijing,

"Smack' is a street name for heroin, and since Afghanistan is a major poppy grower . . .

By the way, we don't often enough express gratitude for each other's contributions, so I'd like to use the moment to express my appreciation for the linguistic knowledge you have been sharing.

 

[Psalehesost]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

And this is a personnal opinion backed by every religious doctrine, including Gnostic texts and the Kabbalah, we are but ONE desire (law of one anyone?) The desire from the creator to delight his creatures! Love your neighbour (ennemy) as you love yourself! Check that out with Cassiopea central, and you'll get the same answer, we are all but one desire, split into 7 billion sparks trying to make their way back up the branch to our root!

As for the (by me) bolded, that would be plainly wrong. We are not "one desire" - that ignores the entire issue of polarities and of the two opposite wills involved in the making of creation, the one seeking Being and the one seeking Non-being.

The light of perspicacity seems to be a gift that not everyone has, and those who do have it, may not have developed it to the same degree. What is evident is that those who have it possess an immutable nature of Being which is able to "see" good and evil - they do not see "only good." Thus, they are able to discern between the "calls" of Nonbeing and Being, and therefore, are able to strengthen their Will along the path of intrinsic Being. It then follows that individuals who are not able to see - or who choose not to see - both Good and Evil, are formed in the mold of subjectivity, which is the human expression of the Call of Non-being.

Some would go so far as to say that, by imagining this 2 sided humanity, the portals and us, we are sinning, because in fact, they are just at the beginning of their journey.

That sentence makes no sense. Making a distinction of sub-density levels of being (OPs and non-OPs would correspond to first and second "half" of 3D, OSIT) is bad, because the half of humanity that according to this distinction would correspond to the first part of 3D belongs to the first part of 3D?

Love y'all!!!

If Love is Light is Knowledge, then, as it very much seems that you do not Know and understand us, it would seem not.

Once you start FEELING it, I assure you! ONCE you get this into your system and begin to work it like any other information on the myth of reality we have been fed, it will act!

This transformation you speak of does not appear positive, judging by its fruits as presented by you. Either you do not think clearly or even coherently, or you are unable to present your thoughts coherently, or both.

FURTHERMORE, and here again many will disagree, and or fight it... But the truth that separates the so-called rulers from the sheeple, is the fact that they know from childhood that we are all ONE.

kozmik9, I think you need to calm down a bit and do more reading and less posting for now until you have really gotten a feel for some of the concepts on this forum [...]

Going by the name he stated in the first post in this thread, he has already been here before as spin49/guimondaniel.

 

[shijing]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

"Smack' is a street name for heroin, and since Afghanistan is a major poppy grower . . .

Gotcha -- I knew what 'smack' was, but didn't put it together -- thanks for the clarification!

By the way, we don't often enough express gratitude for each other's contributions, so I'd like to use the moment to express my appreciation for the linguistic knowledge you have been sharing.

Its my pleasure, and you're welcome. I am glad that you have gotten something out of it :)

Going by the name he stated in the first post in this thread, he has already been here before as spin49/guimondaniel.

You're right -- I wonder why the multiple handles...

 

[Gawan]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

Going by the name he stated in the first post in this thread, he has already been here before as spin49/guimondaniel.

Now that you mention it, I thought about this guy today or yesterday and wondered what happened to him, because he has never been active since.

FWIW here is the signature:

yours, daniel guimond

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Going by the name he stated in the first post in this thread, he has already been here before as spin49/guimondaniel.

You're right -- I wonder why the multiple handles...

As I remember, there has been some dissonance in the past of what he has been writing, but that must not mean that's the reason for creating another account.

 

[anart]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

yours, daniel guimond



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As I remember, there has been some dissonance in the past of what he has been writing, but that must not mean that's the reason for creating another account.

Yes, he's actually been banned from the forum twice and blocked from making comments on the SoTT page as well. His return in this incarnation is no different - troll behavior as usual. It is evident that he has no intention of sincerely contributing (or perhaps he is simply incapable due to his current state of mind), thus his posting capability has been removed (again) - hopefully this time will be the last!

 

[Buddy]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

I guess it's kind of sad, really. I've been lost in a 'visionary' state of mind before and I've had to face how impotent it makes you in dealing with reality.

This reminds me of something Richard Dolan said in that Project Camelot lecture carried on SOTT:

"If the house is burning down, but you're having a really cool dream, who wants to wake up and have to deal with a crisis?"

I realize it may appear that I am passing judgment on kozmik9's mindset. I don't mean too, it's just that I get so tired seeing/remembering my own tendencies to go off in some dream world.



--Edit: spelling

 

[Mona]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

Hello Everyone,

I just would like to make a comment without going into any details of what he said/she said. I understand that there are all kinds of people out there, and a handful of them will want to attack/destroy what Laura and the rest of you represent, your dedication to seeking the truth. So, to be realistic these attacks will probably never stop because there will always be people who will disagree with what this website is all about, but fortunately, what we should remember is that when these individuals do decide to come in and join in a discussion, it is usually only temporary. They usually speak their mind as they have the right to do so and eventually perish into the abyss of the ordinary human life that most people love to live by.

I personally must say that I am more than grateful to have found people such as yourselves whom I describe as a, how would I describe it, a collection of beautifully free minds. I still have a lot to learn, but I must say that I always was a little different from the start from the rest of the people around me. Sticking out as a sore thumb was never fun, in fact, it has been a very solitary/lonely journey for me but I would not want it any other way. I really do not want to be like the billions of people who love to keep on staying in their state of sleep. They do seem to be more happy/alive than me, but maybe it is just an illusion that they are not aware of.

I came across Laura's teachings many years ago. I was a dedicated reader of David Icke's books, which was a good starting point for me, so I am not even going there to judge Icke too harshly, as I do believe that he did help a lot of people wake up to our reality. Besides, Icke's books are easier to get hold of than Laura's. I read Trance formation of America by Cathy O'Brien that he recommended, so I was quite delighted to find out that Cathy was coming to our city to do a speech. I bought a couple of tickets from this lady who asked me if I have heard of the Cassiopaeans. I of course did not, and because I am a terrible speller I forgot the exact spelling of the CC word, so when I googled the name I was unable to find it successfully on the internet. But I did not give up. What is ironic is that a few years before I heard the lady mention the CC's I vacationed in a Kasiopi village on a Greek island, Corfu, so I remembered slightly what the word sounded like. I eventually found the info I was looking for. The first book of Laura's that I picked up was Secret History of the World (that was the only book the local bookstore had in stock), the thickest and quite difficult (English is my second language) to read book but I loved it. And the rest is history. Laura's and CC's teachings was exactly what I was looking for.

So, on this journey of mine, many years later I actually find myself being frustrated by people who are close minded. When I do meet such individuals my first reaction is to just walk away. It is truly boring and draining at the same time to be in the company of humans who are unable to think for themselves, who are too passionate about the lies that have been propagated to them their whole lives. But, I do let them speak, as I strongly believe in freedom in speech (I grew up in a communist country). It would be so great to meet in person people such as yourselves, but for now, I must say that my sofa at home and my bookshelf full of books filled with minds of extraordinary thinking are more comforting than fighting with people who do not inspire me at all.

It is comforting to know that people, who are stuck in their rigid thinking and who do visit this website, do not stay for too long. They do, though, do us a favor, but teaching us about the many different folks who will say/do anything to stop us from being different.

 

[Hildegarda]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

[..] I understand that there are all kinds of people out there, and a handful of them will want to attack/destroy what Laura and the rest of you represent, your dedication to seeking the truth. So, to be realistic these attacks will probably never stop because there will always be people who will disagree with what this website is all about, but fortunately, what we should remember is that when these individuals do decide to come in and join in a discussion, it is usually only temporary. They usually speak their mind as they have the right to do so and eventually perish into the abyss of the ordinary human life that most people love to live by.
[..]
It is comforting to know that people, who are stuck in their rigid thinking and who do visit this website, do not stay for too long. They do, though, do us a favor, but teaching us about the many different folks who will say/do anything to stop us from being different.

Thank you for writing this, Mona.

You are right that these folks come and go. But I want to add an acknowledgment of immense work by forum participants, moderators, and administrators, that often goes into sending them on the way. I understood this in full only after having joined the mod team recently.

This forum has no tolerance for pathological behavior. The rules state that explicitly, and there aren't many other forums like that out there. More importantly, there are many people who invest a lot of time and energy to monitor the discussions, talk to everyone personally, understand their motivations, help if possible. And if not possible, that process ends up shining the light on those guests' true motivations, making them uncomfortable here, and at the same time, like you said, providing a good lesson for everyone.

If it wasn't for many eyes wide open, I'm afraid some of those folks would have found a way to stay longer and do real damage. So, hat tips to all who make this forum a safe and welcome place!

 

[doublea1535]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

It was from Montalk that I first heard of Laura and her work. I think an ariticle on OP's was the first thing that really caught my attention. I can't remember if I followed a direct link or not, or if I had to just google for the C's but I will never forgot the first time I landed on Laura's page and read the headline "The most dangerous ideas to mankind (to those who wish to oppress mankind)" (paraphrasing). The title might appear to some to be hyperbole, but somehow it felt like the weight of Truth was coming through in those words because my attention was immediately hooked. I immediately got the impression that on this site (this and the sister sites) I would find what I was looking for. I don't think I ever went back to the Montalk site. :D

The trail that I followed to lead me to Laura's work was basically :

Michael Moore's Farenheit 9/11 -> Michael Ruppert's Book Crossing the Rubicon -> Lots of various sites/books/dvds later -> Jordan Maxwell's site. On his site, his webadmin had a page that he posted his own links to, on it was one to Montalk -> From there (as stated above) I found the Adventure's With C's material.

 

[truth seeker]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

Interesting that this comes along just as I was having thoughts about whether or not all of the links on my blog were really giving the best information possible.<snip>

I refrained from putting information concerning this/my blog because I was afraid that the members here would think I was weird/crazy but I would really appreciate feedback on it from others to see where I can improve and what I'm completely off on as the last thing I want to do is to hurt this forum/members, Laura or put more disinformation out there. I'll paste the link at the end of this post for anyone interested. I've even considered whether having a blog is truly the best way to help...

http://thefineartofdiscernment.blogspot.com/

I would just leave the topic alone. I don't think anybody ever reads the disclaimer thing anymore anyway; it was put up for our protection and was needed as it turned out, and, depending on how things go in the future, we may or may not remove it. The only people it seems to bother are those with a pathological inability to just let things go. Reminds me of Vinnie who, like other pathological types, can't let go of things and proves Lobaczewski's descriptions of their pathology:

I apologize for not being clear in that paragraph. The information I was referring to in the above quote was simply the link to his site not what the exchange between both of you. That's really none of my business. My only purpose for making a blog was to share my own experiences and what has helped me get through them.

I just really wanted to apologize to Laura and the forum for that comment. It was inconsiderate and narcissistic.

 

[walkingon]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

Why are you apologizing for what you've said? That doesn't make sense. You didn't even say anything offensive, or anything that would even affect Laura and the forum detrimentally. I thought this group emphasized "free thought
". So why are people critisizng montalk? Why are people afraid of Laura's reaction? I'm confused... Where are the values here? Gurdjieff and Ouspensky, and Mouravieff encouraged individuality, yet what are you doing other than kissing Laura's ass, and bowing down to her as if she is some kind of God? Maybe montalk's right, and maybe laura's wrong. Ever think of that possibility? You can't prove that it's NOT true (the main logic used for conspiracy assertions), so why apologize? Maybe you're right. There is no evidence here to encourage ANYONE on this site seeking the approval of Laura and Ark, or discrediting Montalk, or anything, yet that's what most people on here do. Why not encourage freedom of thought? Why not let people think for themselves?

 

[Gonzo]

Re: Cassiopaea and Montalk

Walkington, please remember you are new in someone else's house. Your broad generalizations and manipulative language are giving away the notion that you are not nearly as well read as you claimed in your post at http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=19215.msg0, or that you didn't understand much of what you read or that your objective is to cause chaos.

Nobody asked you in here. You are a guest and came here of your own free will. If you don't like what you see, you are free to leave.

If you are genuinely interested in participating here, you would be well advised to move more slowly, reading other forum threads and familiarizing yourself with this group before posting much more.

This is a friendly note from one member to another.

Gonzo