Vaccines

manitoban

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The madness and fascism of the medical mafia gets worse everyday, but at the same time the voices of the vaccine damaged and those who are aware of what is happening to a whole generation of children are increasing in numbers and becoming louder , stronger and much more organized.

What I wonder is if there will be a tipping point where the damage becomes so widespread, such as the projected 1 in 3 Autistic/ All children with allergies and learning disabilities, that it cannot be denied or hidden anymore?

With all the mandates going ahead now, this point may not be far away. If people do become aware, imagine the anger of the public towards Pharma and the Governments who forced this destruction on the youngest and most vulnerable members of our society!
 

Martina

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Hey, I'm sorry didn't forget to get back to you, but have problems with electronics and time management lately.
We made it, everything postponed till another year as usual, but this theme made me think about my behaviour and my weak spots, like why am I so scared, why do I have to be liked by everyone, why don't I have more confidence? Dad and I were outside and a doctor called us in, we thought it's because of vaccination, but no it was because my son's heartbeat was, she said 200, I don't know if she overreacted the number but she said if this repeats we have to call her for some tests, but otherwise she seemed as very nice lady. I didn't say to my son anything about my fears about vaccinations because I didn't want to scare him but but some of hidden nervousness was definitely felt and I don't want to repeat something like that again. I'm really sorry for behaving like that. Thank you for advices, support and also apologise to you if I upset you here on forum, I don't do this on purpose. Next time I go through this, and there will be a next time, I'll try to master the situation. Reminds me of when my son was 2 and he learned to use potty but I was so scared of some exam I had following morning that he wet himself for the first and last time in the bed. Kids sense parent's emotions and states, what I went through with my crazy mom, and now I see what my older sister does with her baby, too much
 

Tuatha de Danaan

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Hey, I'm sorry didn't forget to get back to you, but have problems with electronics and time management lately.
We made it, everything postponed till another year as usual, but this theme made me think about my behaviour and my weak spots, like why am I so scared, why do I have to be liked by everyone, why don't I have more confidence? Dad and I were outside and a doctor called us in, we thought it's because of vaccination, but no it was because my son's heartbeat was, she said 200, I don't know if she overreacted the number but she said if this repeats we have to call her for some tests, but otherwise she seemed as very nice lady. I didn't say to my son anything about my fears about vaccinations because I didn't want to scare him but but some of hidden nervousness was definitely felt and I don't want to repeat something like that again. I'm really sorry for behaving like that. Thank you for advices, support and also apologise to you if I upset you here on forum, I don't do this on purpose. Next time I go through this, and there will be a next time, I'll try to master the situation. Reminds me of when my son was 2 and he learned to use potty but I was so scared of some exam I had following morning that he wet himself for the first and last time in the bed. Kids sense parent's emotions and states, what I went through with my crazy mom, and now I see what my older sister does with her baby, too much
Martina,. What wonderful news. Being a worried parent there is no need to apologise. The worry was warranted and can be understood by everyone.

What you need to do now, apart from some deep breathing, is to learn to harden your resolve. As Jordan Peterson said, act as if it's a war, or words to that effect. You've been given a nasty shock and a chance to learn from that.

Well done, fighting for children makes everyone feel so vulnerable.
 

manitoban

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Martina,. What wonderful news. Being a worried parent there is no need to apologise. The worry was warranted and can be understood by everyone.

What you need to do now, apart from some deep breathing, is to learn to harden your resolve. As Jordan Peterson said, act as if it's a war, or words to that effect. You've been given a nasty shock and a chance to learn from that.

Well done, fighting for children makes everyone feel so vulnerable.
Yes, indeed, I agree with Tuatha, and I think it's really common to feel anxious around doctors nowadays, especially if you are a parent. It helps to remember we have been programmed from birth to think they are the ultimate authority, and we've been taught to obey authority and not question anything. So we have to go against the programming and that takes effort.

It does become easier with time, however the most important thing, IMO, is to gain knowledge, which will protect you. That would include knowledge of vaccines ingredients and their effect on health, as well as learning the laws of your country regarding exemptions etc. Easier to stand your ground when you know what you are talking about and you KNOW your rights.

There is a lot of material online to be found in various vaccine choice/awareness groups about how to deal with dismissive and aggressive medical professionals that might be of interest to you too.
 

Eboard10

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Japan Leads the Way: No Vaccine Mandates and No MMR Vaccine = Healthier Children. Worth a look for a comparison on childhood health.
I was reading about this so I decided to check the vaccination policy here in Luxembourg. I actually haven't visited my MD in a while, partly because I remember him saying I should bring my vaccination card next time, so I wanted to avoid getting vaccinated next time I visited. On top of that, when I did my fitness test last year to be able to play competitive sports, the doctor at the centre saw the card and recommended me to go see my MD.

Turns out vaccination is not mandatory, phew. Doctors just have the habit of vaccinating patients unless someone expressly refuses. In fact, the ratio of vaccinated people, especially kids, is high enough that the authorities are not concerned with making vaccines mandatory, which in itself is not promising, but at least it gives those who are informed the freedom to choose.
 

JEEP

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God bless Jon Rappoport! He is relentless in his journalistic efforts to expose official wrong doing in regards to health issues. With the advent of flu season, the CDC/Big Pharma health propaganda machine has cranked up with their usual fear-mongering and recommending that pregnant women and children 6 months to 5 years get the shot along with everybody else. Additionally, they're pushing a high dose vaccine for people 65 or older (I've seen this advertised several times already):

"The high-dose vaccine, however, contains four times as much flu virus antigen — the part of the vaccine that stimulates the immune system — as regular Fluzone and other standard flu vaccines."

Yeah - four times as much! So, the potential ill effects will be even greater than ever for senior citizens! I believe it, just like the regular flu shots, is available for free. Wouldn't want any obstacles to everyone getting these nefarious jabs!

Here, Jon takes on the mega lies about the flu:
Drilling Down Into Flu Deceptions And Mind-Boggling Lies

Not every mainstream medical professional is trying to lie about the flu.

Most of these people, as a result of their indoctrination, simply assume conventional wisdom is true.

But as you move toward the top of the ladder—for example, public health agencies like the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC)—there are definitely some first-class liars on board.

The information I’m about to spring on you—and I’ve posted this before—is in the category of: HOW CAN THAT BE TRUE? IF THAT WERE TRUE, THEN EVERYTHING I’VE BEEN TOLD AND EVERYTHING I’VE BELIEVED IS INCREDIBLY FALSE.

And that’s a problem for many people. They would rather hold on to a falsehood than shift allegiance to the truth, when the truth makes them view authority figures in a whole new light.

So…buckle up. Here we go.

The first issue is: how many people in the US die every year from the flu?

The CDC used to issue the same figure every year; 36,000. Then they modified that rote estimate, when it was finally challenged. They equivocated: “Flu seasons are unpredictable and can be severe. Over a period of 30 years, between 1976 and 2006, estimates of flu-associated deaths in the United States range from a low of about 3,000 to a high of about 49,000 people.”

In December of 2005, the British Medical Journal (online) published a shocking report by Peter Doshi, which created tremors through the halls of the CDC.

Here is a quote from Doshi’s report, “Are US flu death figures more PR than science?” (BMJ 2005; 331:1412):

“[According to CDC statistics], ‘influenza and pneumonia’ took 62,034 lives in 2001—61,777 of which were attributable to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was the flu virus positively identified.”

Boom.

You see, the CDC created one overall category that combines both flu and pneumonia deaths. Why do they do this? Because they disingenuously assume that the pneumonia deaths are complications stemming from the flu.

This is an absurd assumption. Pneumonia has a number of causes.

But even worse, in all the flu and pneumonia deaths, only 18 revealed the presence of an influenza virus.

Therefore, the CDC could not say, with assurance, that more than 18 people died of influenza in 2001. Not 36,000 deaths. 18 deaths.

Doshi continued his assessment of published CDC flu-death statistics: “Between 1979 and 2001, [CDC] data show an average of 1348 [flu] deaths per year (range 257 to 3006).” These figures refer to flu separated out from pneumonia.

This death toll is obviously far lower than the parroted 36,000 figure.

However, when you add the sensible condition that lab tests have to actually find the flu virus in patients, the numbers of flu deaths would plummet even further.

In other words, it’s promotion, hype, and uncertainty.

“Well, uh, we’ve said that 36,000 people die from the flu every year in the US. But actually, it’s probably closer to 20. Who knows? However, we can’t admit that, because if we did, we’d be exposing our gigantic psyop. The whole campaign to scare people into getting a flu shot would have about the same effect as warning people to carry iron umbrellas, in case toasters fall out of upper-story windows…and, by the way, we’d be put in prison for fraud.”

[Note: Prior to Doshi publishing the above piece about flu deaths, I engaged in a series of emails with him about that issue, and independent researcher, Martin Maloney, made a major contribution to uncovering the CDC deception.]

The second big issue is: how many people diagnosed with the flu really have the flu?

Peter Doshi again, writing in the online BMJ (British Medical Journal), reveals another monstrosity.

As Doshi states, every year, hundreds of thousands of respiratory samples are taken from flu patients in the US and tested in labs. Here is the kicker: only a small percentage of these samples show the presence of a flu virus.

This means: most of the people in America who are diagnosed by doctors with the flu have no flu virus in their bodies.

So they don’t have the flu.

Therefore, even if you assume the flu vaccine is useful and safe, it couldn’t possibly prevent all those “flu cases” that aren’t flu cases.

The vaccine couldn’t possibly work.

The vaccine isn’t designed to prevent fake flu, unless pigs can fly.

Here’s the exact quote from Doshi’s BMJ review, “Influenza: marketing vaccines by marketing disease” (BMJ 2013; 346:f3037):

“…even the ideal influenza vaccine, matched perfectly to circulating strains of wild influenza and capable of stopping all influenza viruses, can only deal with a small part of the ‘flu’ problem because most ‘flu’ appears to have nothing to do with influenza. Every year, hundreds of thousands of respiratory specimens are tested across the US. Of those tested, on average 16% are found to be influenza positive.

“…It’s no wonder so many people feel that ‘flu shots’ don’t work: for most flus, they can’t.”

Because most diagnosed cases of the flu aren’t the flu.

So even if you’re a true believer in mainstream vaccine theory, you’re on the short end of the stick here. They’re conning your socks off.

Let me give you a gigantic example of this massive flu-case-counting deception. It involved a flu “epidemic” you might remember called Swine Flu.

In the late summer of 2009, the Swine Flu epidemic was hyped to the sky by the CDC. The Agency was calling for all Americans to take the Swine Flu vaccine.

The problem was, the CDC was concealing a scandal.

At the time, star CBS investigative reporter, Sharyl Attkisson, was working on a Swine Flu story. She discovered that the CDC had secretly stopped counting US cases of the illness—while, of course, continuing to warn Americans about its unchecked spread.

Understand that the CDC’s main job is counting cases and reporting the numbers.

What was the Agency up to?

Here is an excerpt from my 2014 interview with Sharyl Attkisson:

Rappoport: In 2009, you spearheaded coverage of the so-called Swine Flu pandemic. You discovered that, in the summer of 2009, the Centers for Disease Control, ignoring their federal mandate, [secretly] stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America. Yet they continued to stir up fear about the “pandemic,” without having any real measure of its impact. Wasn’t that another investigation of yours that was shut down? Wasn’t there more to find out?

Attkisson: The implications of the story were even worse than that. We discovered through our FOI efforts that before the CDC mysteriously stopped counting Swine Flu cases, they had learned that almost none of the cases they had counted as Swine Flu was, in fact, Swine Flu or any sort of flu at all! The interest in the story from one [CBS] executive was very enthusiastic. He said it was “the most original story” he’d seen on the whole Swine Flu epidemic. But others pushed to stop it [after it was published on the CBS News website] and, in the end, no [CBS television news] broadcast wanted to touch it. We aired numerous stories pumping up the idea of an epidemic, but not the one that would shed original, new light on all the hype. It [Attkisson’s article] was fair, accurate, legally approved and a heck of a story. With the CDC keeping the true Swine Flu stats secret, it meant that many in the public took and gave their children an experimental vaccine that may not have been necessary.

—end of interview excerpt—

It was routine for doctors all over America to send blood samples from patients they’d diagnosed with Swine Flu, or the “most likely” Swine Flu patients, to labs for testing. And overwhelmingly, those samples were coming back with the result: not Swine Flu, not any kind of flu.

That was the big secret. That’s what the CDC was hiding. That’s why they stopped reporting Swine Flu case numbers. That’s what Attkisson had discovered. That’s why she was shut down.

But it gets even worse.

Because about three weeks after Attkisson’s findings were published on the CBS News website, the CDC, obviously in a panic, decided to double down. If one lie is exposed, tell an even bigger one. A much bigger one.

Here, from a November 12, 2009, WebMD article is the CDC’s response: “Shockingly, 14 million to 34 million U.S. residents — the CDC’s best guess is 22 millioncame down with H1N1 swine flu by Oct. 17 [2009].” (“22 million cases of Swine Flu in US,” by Daniel J. DeNoon).

Are your eyeballs popping? They should be.

In the summer of 2009, the CDC secretly stops counting Swine Flu cases in America, because the overwhelming percentage of lab tests from likely Swine Flu patients shows no sign of Swine Flu or any other kind of flu.

There is no Swine Flu epidemic.

Then, the CDC estimates there are 22 MILLION cases of Swine Flu in the US.

So…the premise that the CDC would never lie about important matters like, oh, a vaccine causing autism…you can lay that one to rest. (archive here)

The CDC will lie about anything it wants to. It will boldly go where no person interested in real science will go.

It will completely ignore its mandate to care about human health, and it will get away with it—as long as people are willing to accept falsehoods instead of the truth, as long as people would rather cling to what authority figures tell them.

I was already aware that the CDC was conflating flu with pneumonia stats. I believe that there was also speculation or even actual evidence that pregnant women getting swine flu vaccines were suffering miscarriages.

Evil is as evil does. :evil:
 

JEEP

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From Natural News - Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself - has this important announcement plus:
Save the Date! On November 14, 2019, vaccine safety advocates are gathering on the National Mall to raise awareness about vaccine dangers

This upcoming Thursday marks the 33rd anniversary of the passage of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NVCIA), which exempts the vaccine industry from all liability associated with injuries and deaths caused by vaccines. And in honor of the tens of thousands of children who’ve fallen victim to these liability-free vaccines, thousands of vaccine truth advocates are gathering on the National Mall in Washington, DC, to raise awareness about vaccine risks, as well as to pay homage to those whose lives have been destroyed by vaccines.

Marked as a “Day of Remembrance,” this event on November 14, 2019, is officially called the Vaccine Injury Epidemic Event, or VIE. It will feature physicians, scientists, lawyers, legislators, educators, human rights advocates, and mothers of vaccine-injured children who will boldly speak on behalf of those who can’t because they’re either permanently injured or dead as a result of having been jabbed in accordance with government health policies.

Read more:
Another aggressively proactive anti-VAXX show of force - this video should be shared far and wide:
Watch: Anti-vaxxers crash Jimmy Kimmel show to warn of vaccine dangers

Protesters from the organization V is for Vaccine infiltrated a taping of Jimmy Kimmel LIVE to interrupt his interview with pro-vaccine actress Kristen Bell.


(Article republished from Infowars.com)

Bell was on the set Thursday to promote her new movie “Frozen 2” when several protesters among the audience shouted, “Vaccines can causes injury and death! Stop discriminating against vaccine-injured children, Kristen! Let’s have a discussion.”


Audio recording of the encounter then shows Kimmel suggesting they talk some other time before the sounds of scuffling begin, presumably from the bodyguards attempting to eject them from the studio.

“We wanted to say our piece and get the eff out,” one of the protesters said on camera afterwards. “We were like, we’re not even gonna be shamed and let them escort us, so we just said it and then we bailed.”

Another protester described the bodyguards as manhandling them while telling them they were under arrest.

“And then there was four guys chasing us, f***, ‘don’t let em out, don’t let em out!’” she said, adding they tried to pass themselves off as law enforcement while grabbing them to escort them out of the building.

Bell is staunchly pro-vaccine, having shared her views on social media and husband Dax Shepard describing them as the “most vocal pro-vaccination couple in the biz.”

Read more at: Infowars.com
I personally can't stand Jimmy Kimmel - now, more than ever! Kudos to those courageous and brave VAXX protestors!
 

Ruth

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I was reading about this so I decided to check the vaccination policy here in Luxembourg. I actually haven't visited my MD in a while, partly because I remember him saying I should bring my vaccination card next time, so I wanted to avoid getting vaccinated next time I visited. On top of that, when I did my fitness test last year to be able to play competitive sports, the doctor at the centre saw the card and recommended me to go see my MD.

Turns out vaccination is not mandatory, phew. Doctors just have the habit of vaccinating patients unless someone expressly refuses. In fact, the ratio of vaccinated people, especially kids, is high enough that the authorities are not concerned with making vaccines mandatory, which in itself is not promising, but at least it gives those who are informed the freedom to choose.
Are you saying that a "vaccination card" is mandatory in Luxembourg and that you have to have one?
 
CONCERNING THE FLU SHOT

Here in Québec, last week the Me(r)dias were claiming loudly that 1 Québécois out of 4 had gotten a flu vaccine this season?! To me that seems like absolute bullcrud! Yet, it is by these exaggerated numbers that they are able to draw more people into getting the deadly prick!
X-cuse my french!

On the same subject, my mother-in-law is at last stage of Alzheimer, and even though we made a point of signing papers where WE ARE TOTALLY AGAINST the flu shot, we heard through the grapevine of workers at the home where she is living that they more than likely gave her the flu shot against our decision?

It would be surprising to find out if our wishes are respected in such situations? (My partner has asked access to her mother's file, in order to get to the truth in his matter). I will update when we get a solid answer. (This is a legitimate concern for those of us who have either experienced directly or indirectly the harm caused by these willy-dilly - never the right strain - of flu shots.
 

manitoban

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Another country has fallen, Germany has just passed a law making measles vaccination mandatory for school and daycare entry.

This law appears to cover not only children though, but also teachers as well as hospital and medical staff. Anyone not complying will be fined up to 2500 Euros. In addition, what is not mentioned in the article, is that the measles shot appears to be only available in a combined shot which will also include mumps/rubella, and in some cases chicken pox.

German lawmakers approve compulsory measles vaccine plan
 

Ruth

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Crisis in Samoa. An alarming increase of deaths from measles in Samoa. Is it because of the 'anti-vaxxers' as they are trying to tell us?

 
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