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Hi Mra,
I noticed you metion issues with sleeping. There is a bit of research here about the benefits of Melatonin if you look it up in a search of the forum. I don't know that it is the sure fire cure for helping you get some sleep but it does work for me. Here is a back of the bottle description from the brand I am currently consuming off and on:
3mg (dose per pill) Naturol (brand) Melatonin (what it is)
Melatonin Support healthy sleep patterns. The body naturally releases melatonin in response to changes in light, with melatonin levels rising at night. It is in this way that melatonin helps promote sleep. (not exactly sure I understand what all that means..)
There is a "warning" about if your taking tranquilizers or sedatives a person should consult with their doctor before using it.
Hopefully that is somewhat helpful, certainly there is much more discussed on the forum. Here is something that is titled Melatonin in the topic line. http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=314
Salutes!
Hi Mra,
I noticed you metion issues with sleeping. There is a bit of research here about the benefits of Melatonin if you look it up in a search of the forum. I don't know that it is the sure fire cure for helping you get some sleep but it does work for me. Here is a back of the bottle description from the brand I am currently consuming off and on:
3mg (dose per pill) Naturol (brand) Melatonin (what it is)
Melatonin Support healthy sleep patterns. The body naturally releases melatonin in response to changes in light, with melatonin levels rising at night. It is in this way that melatonin helps promote sleep. (not exactly sure I understand what all that means..)
There is a "warning" about if your taking tranquilizers or sedatives a person should consult with their doctor before using it.
Hopefully that is somewhat helpful, certainly there is much more discussed on the forum. Here is something that is titled Melatonin in the topic line. http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=314
Salutes!
Re: Dan Winter
Mra, did you bother to READ the material in the links given above? Their is more than "subjective opinion" there. In fact, I think it would be best if you read up on the forum and the links provided within this thread (especially Wave and Adventures series) before continuing on with this thread.Mra said:
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mra, there was no flaming, mini or otherwise. If you can point out what you perceived as such, it would help. And you weren't "attacked" either, and this group is not in a habit of attacking anyone. But as you yourself said, this is a subjective perception, but what is important is the objective reality. Some people perceive that they are being attacked all the time by everybody, and live a miserable existence as a result of this distorted perception, but that doesn't make it true. I also did not see any elitism in this thread, or pointed towards new members. Again, if you can point out specifically where you perceived this it would help.
mra, there was no flaming, mini or otherwise. If you can point out what you perceived as such, it would help. And you weren't "attacked" either, and this group is not in a habit of attacking anyone. But as you yourself said, this is a subjective perception, but what is important is the objective reality. Some people perceive that they are being attacked all the time by everybody, and live a miserable existence as a result of this distorted perception, but that doesn't make it true. I also did not see any elitism in this thread, or pointed towards new members. Again, if you can point out specifically where you perceived this it would help.
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Meg
Edit: Today, while reading some from an Intro to Gurdieff's life & work (Shirley) it occurred to me that coincidence & syncs could also be consciousness or collective consciousness. Maybe then, syncs, signs or coincidences should be considered when deciphering and seeking.
If what is true for today is based on knowledge, perception and experience, then syncs or coincidences are just a distraction. Sometimes, someone says something and you have a moment of clarity that lets the light in, so to speak. Discern for yourself...Thanks for the observations!Scio said:
Meg
Edit: Today, while reading some from an Intro to Gurdieff's life & work (Shirley) it occurred to me that coincidence & syncs could also be consciousness or collective consciousness. Maybe then, syncs, signs or coincidences should be considered when deciphering and seeking.
vinny
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hi MRA,
it is good to see you getting involved on the SOTT forum - I'm quite encouraged that we now have a few youngsters around, though of course that brings in a whole new set of issues. a healthy sign, IMO, is that you are not being overly defensive - you've been around a couple of months and I hope you have seen how that goes when someone goes into a defensive / justifying / self-important ever decreasing spiral. always apply 'external consideration' when posting, and you'll get on fine.
if you are making any progress you WILL feel the resistance of the general-law pushing back on you to keep you in your place. something that I wrote to myself in my journal the other day, to help preserve my own sanity:
hi MRA,
it is good to see you getting involved on the SOTT forum - I'm quite encouraged that we now have a few youngsters around, though of course that brings in a whole new set of issues. a healthy sign, IMO, is that you are not being overly defensive - you've been around a couple of months and I hope you have seen how that goes when someone goes into a defensive / justifying / self-important ever decreasing spiral. always apply 'external consideration' when posting, and you'll get on fine.
if you are making any progress you WILL feel the resistance of the general-law pushing back on you to keep you in your place. something that I wrote to myself in my journal the other day, to help preserve my own sanity:
btw, 'the Wave' really is essential reading, if you haven't got to that yet.
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Also notice the structure of the website. It is the most CHAOTIC accumulation of sketches, words and links I ever saw! Notice the low content-to-words ratio. Red flag-keywords for me are today: BlissTuner, HeartTuner, Measuring Compassion, etc. A few years ago however, I was sucked into this mess. But, projecting all hebrew letters from one 3D phi spiral continues to be most intriguing to me!henry said:
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Jay Weidner - Plagiarist
Ah, rats. Seems that I have to purchase the book on Amazon,
before being allowed to reply to Jay Weidner's posting. Someone
should reply and add the link to this forum and make a note that
J. Weidner's post is OFF TOPIC, has an ulterior motive to push his
book and claims, and should be removed from the review pages.
I would say something like:
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A fascinating book! An interesting interpretation into the world of the alchemist
(or hermeticist) and the "green language" that is/was written to "hide the message
within" like "The layers of the onion", intended specifically for the adept trained by
a master.
Read for yourself and don't take my word for it.
It is my opinion that Jay Weidner, has somewhat admitted that he had very little to
do with the initial work: "Great Cross of Hendaye" and was most likely created and
plagiarized by Maynard Most, a known scammer/swindler, had troubles with the law
according to the correspondences between himself, Maynard Most and and Laura
Knight-Jadczyk.
Judge for yourself with the following forum
link: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7398.msg52492#msg52492
One has to wonder of Mr. Weidner's ulterior motives in trying to push his claims/book here,
which is OFF TOPIC. His comment/thread should be removed from this review, OSIT.
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Ah, rats. Seems that I have to purchase the book on Amazon,
before being allowed to reply to Jay Weidner's posting. Someone
should reply and add the link to this forum and make a note that
J. Weidner's post is OFF TOPIC, has an ulterior motive to push his
book and claims, and should be removed from the review pages.
I would say something like:
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A fascinating book! An interesting interpretation into the world of the alchemist
(or hermeticist) and the "green language" that is/was written to "hide the message
within" like "The layers of the onion", intended specifically for the adept trained by
a master.
Read for yourself and don't take my word for it.
It is my opinion that Jay Weidner, has somewhat admitted that he had very little to
do with the initial work: "Great Cross of Hendaye" and was most likely created and
plagiarized by Maynard Most, a known scammer/swindler, had troubles with the law
according to the correspondences between himself, Maynard Most and and Laura
Knight-Jadczyk.
Judge for yourself with the following forum
link: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7398.msg52492#msg52492
One has to wonder of Mr. Weidner's ulterior motives in trying to push his claims/book here,
which is OFF TOPIC. His comment/thread should be removed from this review, OSIT.
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Jay Weidner - Plagiarist
The main things that Jay considers to be "his research" is his interpretation of the message of the "Cross at Hendaye" and his identification of Fulcanelli. I rejected both of these conclusions from the beginning because they did not "feel right." I didn't have any conclusions myself, but I knew that the Cross at Hendaye did not "point" to Cuzco, Peru, as they write in their book, nor was Fulcanelli who they described. At the time, I didn't know enough about what they claimed to be the third book of Fulcanelli, "The Architecture of Nature" to draw a conclusion, but after having many discussions with Patrick Riviere and learning a lot more about Fulcanelli, I realize that they were just blowing hot air, acting like experts when they were not.
We brought Jay and Vinnie's book to the attention of the alchemical community in France just to get some feedback. Here is what Patrick Riviere wrote in his book on Fulcanelli about their "take" on the issue:
In the cited correspondence, I even tried to explain to him why he was on a false trail with the Cuzco thing because the Guaman Poma work has been analyzed and shown to not be what he claims it is, but he just couldn't hear what I was saying.
The main things that Jay considers to be "his research" is his interpretation of the message of the "Cross at Hendaye" and his identification of Fulcanelli. I rejected both of these conclusions from the beginning because they did not "feel right." I didn't have any conclusions myself, but I knew that the Cross at Hendaye did not "point" to Cuzco, Peru, as they write in their book, nor was Fulcanelli who they described. At the time, I didn't know enough about what they claimed to be the third book of Fulcanelli, "The Architecture of Nature" to draw a conclusion, but after having many discussions with Patrick Riviere and learning a lot more about Fulcanelli, I realize that they were just blowing hot air, acting like experts when they were not.
We brought Jay and Vinnie's book to the attention of the alchemical community in France just to get some feedback. Here is what Patrick Riviere wrote in his book on Fulcanelli about their "take" on the issue:
So, since we completely disagree on about every point about Fulcanelli, what he said, what was meant by what he wrote, etc, I really can't imagine why Weidner wants to insist that I "stole" his research!!!!Patrick Riviere said:
In the cited correspondence, I even tried to explain to him why he was on a false trail with the Cuzco thing because the Guaman Poma work has been analyzed and shown to not be what he claims it is, but he just couldn't hear what I was saying.
