Cassiopaea and ChatGPT

[Ina]

Good idea, I doubt it will deliver, but an interesting prompt might be "Put together a timeline for the development of early Christianity according to From Paul to Mark" or something along those lines.

Put together a timeline for the development of early Christianity according to From Paul to Mark book written by Laura Knight-Jadczyk


"From Paul to Mark" by Laura Knight-Jadczyk is a book that focuses on the interpretation of early Christianity through the lens of astrology, mysticism, and the historical context of the time. The timeline in this book may be different from traditional historical accounts due to its unique perspective.
Here’s a timeline based on the themes and interpretations from Knight-Jadczyk’s book:

1. Early Christian Beginnings (circa 30-50 CE):
   • Circa 30-33 CE: The death of Jesus and the formation of the early Christian movement in Jerusalem. Knight-Jadczyk explores how the early church was influenced by existing mystical and astrological traditions.
   • Circa 35-50 CE: Paul’s conversion and subsequent missionary activities. Knight-Jadczyk examines Paul’s role in spreading Christianity and how his teachings were influenced by astrological and mystical ideas.
2. Development of Christian Doctrine (circa 50-70 CE):
   • Circa 50 CE: The writing of Paul’s Epistles, with an emphasis on how they reflect astrological and mystical themes. Knight-Jadczyk discusses how Paul’s letters incorporate astrological symbolism and concepts.
   • Circa 60-70 CE: The period during which Christian doctrine and beliefs began to solidify. Knight-Jadczyk explores the interaction between Christian ideas and the broader Hellenistic mystical traditions.
3. Gospel of Mark (circa 70 CE):
   • Circa 70 CE: The composition of the Gospel of Mark. Knight-Jadczyk analyzes how Mark’s Gospel incorporates and reflects astrological and mystical themes, considering the impact of historical and cultural factors on its development.
4. Formation of the Christian Canon and Traditions (circa 70-100 CE):
   • Circa 70-80 CE: The composition of the other Synoptic Gospels (Matthew and Luke) and the development of early Christian teachings. Knight-Jadczyk looks at how these texts continue to reflect and adapt astrological and mystical influences.
   • Circa 90-100 CE: The writing of the Gospel of John and the establishment of early Christian traditions. Knight-Jadczyk examines how John’s Gospel diverges from earlier traditions and incorporates more developed theological and mystical concepts.
5. Influence of Mysticism and Astrology (circa 100-200 CE):
   • Circa 100-200 CE: The period when Christian doctrine further develops and becomes more codified. Knight-Jadczyk discusses how mysticism and astrology continue to influence Christian thought and practice.

This timeline reflects Knight-Jadczyk’s interpretation of early Christianity’s development through the lens of mystical and astrological influences.

 

[KJS]

I've been experimenting with local LLMs recently, and they work quite well if the content to analyze fits their context window. So the most critical thing is indexing large text corpuses. Currently, the way that it is done is to cut the text into an arbitrary number of sentences (often overlapping) and feed them to the semantic indexer and database for later retrieval. The obvious thing is that an author's thought can span multiple paragraphs, so how can the machine select the proper amount of sentences to index as it doesn't understand what is written? Probably some supervised indexing is needed, but everybody seems to skip that part

Here's an example summary of the recent session generated by AliBaba's model. The session, although long, fit nicely in the 16k token window and resulted in a pretty usable output:

Q: Summarize text after the colon without using bullet points or numbers using maximum of 1000 words: {content}

A: Today's session began with Laura welcoming attendees. The Quorum was meeting to discuss the future of Earth, which was unusual as they hadn't met in 40 years (1984). They were considering changes needed for balance due to insufficient resistance against increasing control.

Laura mentioned that the Quorum might be influencing weather patterns and disease outbreaks through their actions or decisions. The conversation shifted towards whether more suffering could lead to greater awakening among humans, with a reference to Mephistopheles from Faust.

The group discussed the potential for increased control leading to more resistance, which could result in tighter controls by the Quorum. Laura joked about retiring due to this prediction. They also touched on the 27 million year orbit of twin suns and how knowledge was passed down through ancient civilizations.

Regarding the names of planets, they were given by an advanced civilization that existed before Atlantis. The second names for each planet were created around 50,000 years ago in a variation of early Atlantean language.

The session also addressed questions about ancient people living longer lifespans compared to modern humans, with genetics playing a key role and originating from Kantek. Some modern individuals carry these genes, but not necessarily upregulated. The average lifespan was estimated at 2500 years, with only 7% of the population manifesting this trait.

The conversation turned towards the possibility of activating those longevity genes in modern times under certain circumstances due to changes in Earth's environment or technology. It was mentioned that lifespans could vary greatly within a society, and not all individuals would have experienced such extended lives.

The group discussed how these ancient people might have been remarkable compared to their contemporaries, with some living proportionally longer lifespans than the average 800 years without these genes. The Younger Dryas event was mentioned as the last time someone with these genetics lived.

The session concluded with questions about the source and causes of endometriosis, which were linked to excess estrogen imbalance and hormones in food. Approaching Infinity asked about the least toxic type of e-liquid composition for vaping, which was distilled water.

Other topics included a wave of murders in Mexico, which was attributed to CIA sabotage; sightings of "big black cats" being identified as window fallers rather than actual big cats roaming the UK. The session also touched on alien abductions and Missing 411 cases, with TDARM-type technology used for different purposes.

Questions about Michael Mosley's disappearance were answered affirmatively that it was a Missing 411 case involving opportunistic abduction. The conversation then moved to inner speech and experiences like inner visualization, emotions, sensations or awareness, and unsymbolized thinking in individuals who do not experience inner speech.

The session concluded with inquiries about the primary difference between an OP (out-of-place) individual and someone with a soul, which was linked to the ability to see oneself as an observer. The group also discussed the potential for souls reincarnating into past or future times based on selective time perception.

The session ended with Laura's note that there were no further questions from the chat and concluded by reminding attendees of previous warnings about the Quorum's influence and advising them not to be stampeded into any decisions without considering all information.

Here's the same with Facebook's one (notice how my request about not having bullet points is ignored):

A: This is a transcript of a session with Laura, a channeler, and her group. The session covers various topics, including:
* The Quorum meeting: Laura mentions that the Quorum is meeting in 4D, which means they are discussing future events.
* Changes on Earth: Laura discusses changes happening on Earth, including climate change and other environmental issues.
* Longevity: Laura talks about people living longer lives, with some individuals living up to 8,000 years. She also mentions that these individuals have a different genetic makeup than the general population.
* Inner monologue: The group discusses people who don't think in words but rather in images or emotions. They mention that this is not as rare as previously thought and can be linked to certain personality traits.
* Reincarnation: Laura talks about reincarnation, mentioning that it's possible for souls to reincarnate into the past or future. She also mentions that people can have multiple incarnations simultaneously.
* Gaza situation: The group discusses the situation in Gaza, with Laura stating that over 100,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israel.
* Health and wellness: The group talks about health and wellness, mentioning the importance of a healthy lifestyle and avoiding certain substances like xylitol.
* Pendulum use: Laura advises against using pendulums strictly for personal questions, as they can be influenced by one's own thoughts and biases.

Some notable quotes from the session include:
* "The Quorum is meeting in 4D. Changes are coming."
* "People living longer lives is not a new concept. It's just that now we're talking about it more openly."
* "Not everyone thinks in words. Some people think in images or emotions."
* "Reincarnation is possible, but it's not always easy to understand."
* "The situation in Gaza is dire. Over 100,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israel."

Overall, the session covers a range of topics related to spirituality, health, and global events.

 

[luc]

Put together a timeline for the development of early Christianity according to From Paul to Mark book written by Laura Knight-Jadczyk


"From Paul to Mark" by Laura Knight-Jadczyk is a book that focuses on the interpretation of early Christianity through the lens of astrology, mysticism, and the historical context of the time. The timeline in this book may be different from traditional historical accounts due to its unique perspective.
Here’s a timeline based on the themes and interpretations from Knight-Jadczyk’s book:

1. Early Christian Beginnings (circa 30-50 CE):
   • Circa 30-33 CE: The death of Jesus and the formation of the early Christian movement in Jerusalem. Knight-Jadczyk explores how the early church was influenced by existing mystical and astrological traditions.
   • Circa 35-50 CE: Paul’s conversion and subsequent missionary activities. Knight-Jadczyk examines Paul’s role in spreading Christianity and how his teachings were influenced by astrological and mystical ideas.
2. Development of Christian Doctrine (circa 50-70 CE):
   • Circa 50 CE: The writing of Paul’s Epistles, with an emphasis on how they reflect astrological and mystical themes. Knight-Jadczyk discusses how Paul’s letters incorporate astrological symbolism and concepts.
   • Circa 60-70 CE: The period during which Christian doctrine and beliefs began to solidify. Knight-Jadczyk explores the interaction between Christian ideas and the broader Hellenistic mystical traditions.
3. Gospel of Mark (circa 70 CE):
   • Circa 70 CE: The composition of the Gospel of Mark. Knight-Jadczyk analyzes how Mark’s Gospel incorporates and reflects astrological and mystical themes, considering the impact of historical and cultural factors on its development.
4. Formation of the Christian Canon and Traditions (circa 70-100 CE):
   • Circa 70-80 CE: The composition of the other Synoptic Gospels (Matthew and Luke) and the development of early Christian teachings. Knight-Jadczyk looks at how these texts continue to reflect and adapt astrological and mystical influences.
   • Circa 90-100 CE: The writing of the Gospel of John and the establishment of early Christian traditions. Knight-Jadczyk examines how John’s Gospel diverges from earlier traditions and incorporates more developed theological and mystical concepts.
5. Influence of Mysticism and Astrology (circa 100-200 CE):
   • Circa 100-200 CE: The period when Christian doctrine further develops and becomes more codified. Knight-Jadczyk discusses how mysticism and astrology continue to influence Christian thought and practice.

This timeline reflects Knight-Jadczyk’s interpretation of early Christianity’s development through the lens of mystical and astrological influences.

LOL, that sounds like a Corporate press release written by an intern with access to Wikipedia, desperately trying to hide the elephant in the room :)

Here's an example summary of the recent session generated by AliBaba's model. The session, although long, fit nicely in the 16k token window and resulted in a pretty usable output:

Interesting prompt, and the output is somewhat useful. Notice however that it still screws up important details, like when it says "changes needed for balance due to insufficient resistance against increasing control" - it just randomly threw together the aspects "balance" and "resistance", although the Cs only said "close" to the question about resistance, and certainly didn't put it like that. The devil is in the details!

Also, why did it mention certain things and not others? Probably random, or something that sounds closer to the lowest common denominator according to its language model?

It is right about one thing though: those out-of-placers really are a nasty bunch

 

[seek10]

Used perplexity.ai PRO for this question

human history by years in detail according to cassiopaean material from Laura Knight-Jadczyk​

The Cassiopaean material, as channeled by Laura Knight-Jadczyk, provides a unique perspective on human history, blending esoteric and metaphysical insights with traditional historical events. The material is derived from sessions where Knight-Jadczyk and her group communicated with an entity claiming to be from the future, offering a distinct narrative that often diverges from mainstream historical accounts.

Overview of Human History According to Cassiopaean Material​

Ancient Civilizations and Prehistory​

• 200,000 B.C.: Emergence of Homo sapiens in Africa.
• 62,000 B.C.: Use of bow and arrows with stone points.
• 30,000 B.C.: Cro-Magnon man flourishes, moving from the Near East into Europe, living by hunting and gathering, and painting caves.
• 25,000 B.C.: Humans cross the Bering Strait, connecting Asia to the Americas.
• 18,000 B.C.: Creation of clay pottery and the use of raw metals.
• 10,000 B.C.: Humans reach the southernmost point of South America.
• 8,000 B.C.: Neolithic Revolution; agriculture begins in the Fertile Crescent, domestication of cows and sheep, and crop manipulation.
• 7,000 B.C.: A significant earthquake destroys the city of Jericho.
• 6,500 B.C.: Rising sea levels cut off England from Europe.
• 6,000 B.C.: First beer brewed from grain in the Near East.
• 5,500 B.C.: First settled societies in Mesopotamia.
• 4,500 B.C.: Invention of the plow.
• 4,250 B.C.: Development of copper and bronze metallurgy.
• 4,242 B.C.: The first year on the Egyptian calendar.
• 4,000 B.C.: Invention of the wheel and the beginning of rice farming in China.
• 3,400 B.C.: Early forms of writing and the construction of the earliest ziggurats.
• 3,300 B.C.: Establishment of the Indus Valley Civilization in South Asia.

Historical Disinformation and Esoteric Insights​

The Cassiopaean material suggests that much of what is considered historical fact may be disinformation. This includes:

• Reincarnation and Past Lives: The material discusses the concept of reincarnation and how past lives influence current experiences.
• Karma and Soul Evolution: It emphasizes the importance of karma and the evolution of the soul through various lifetimes.
• The 'Golden Age' and Ancient Civilizations: The Cassiopaeans speak of a 'Golden Age' where ancient civilizations had advanced knowledge and technology.
• Weather and Earth Changes: Predictions and explanations of significant weather and earth changes are frequent in the material.
• The Wave: A concept referring to coming turmoil and transformation on the planet.
• New World Order and Hidden Government: Discussions on the existence of a hidden government and an all-encompassing control system.
• Higher Density Experience: Insights into higher density experiences and the fluid nature of UFO and alien phenomena.
• Nature of Time and the Universe: Philosophical discussions on the nature of time and the structure of the universe.

Modern Era and Future Predictions​

The material also delves into modern historical events and future predictions:

• 20th and 21st Centuries: Analysis of political events, wars, and societal changes from a metaphysical perspective.
• Future Events: Predictions about upcoming global changes, technological advancements, and shifts in human consciousness.

Methodology and Verification​

The Cassiopaean material is notable for its method of transmission:

• Channeling Process: Laura Knight-Jadczyk used a spirit board to communicate with the Cassiopaeans, who claim to be a future version of humanity.
• Scientific Standards: The sessions were conducted with a focus on applying scientific standards and critical thinking.
• Verification: Where possible, the material has been cross-referenced with known facts, and it claims to have a high accuracy rate compared to other channeling sources.

Publications​

The insights from these sessions have been compiled into several volumes, such as:

• The Cassiopaea Experiment Transcripts 1994
• The Cassiopaea Experiment Transcripts 1995

These publications provide detailed transcripts of the sessions, offering a comprehensive view of the material covered.In summary, the Cassiopaean material presents a detailed and esoteric account of human history, blending traditional historical events with metaphysical insights and predictions. It challenges conventional narratives and offers a unique perspective on the evolution of humanity and its future.

Atlantean period history by years in detail according to cassiopaean material from Laura Knight-Jadczyk​

Answer

Atlantis
Fictional island in Plato's works


Origin
Mentioned in Plato's dialogues Timaeus and Critias as an allegory on the hubris of nations.
Description
Described as a powerful naval empire that ruled the Western parts of the known world, ultimately submerging into the Atlantic Ocean after attempting to conquer Ancient Athens.
Allegorical Purpose
Serves as a counter-image to the Achaemenid Empire and a testament to the superiority of Plato's ideal state concept.
Impact on Literature
Inspired Renaissance utopian works and fueled pseudoscientific speculation and contemporary fiction.
Debate on Inspiration
While its fictional nature is agreed upon, there's debate over whether Plato drew inspiration from historical events or traditions.
Inspiration Theories
Scholars suggest inspiration may come from Egyptian records of the Thera eruption, Sea Peoples invasion, Trojan War, or other contemporary events.
The Cassiopaean material, as channeled by Laura Knight-Jadczyk, offers a detailed and unique perspective on the history of the Atlantean period. According to this material, the history of Atlantis is divided into several distinct phases, each characterized by significant events and developments. Here is a detailed breakdown of the Atlantean period according to the Cassiopaean material:

Atlantean Period History​

1. Early Atlantean Civilization​

• Formation and Early Developments: The Atlantean civilization is said to have begun around 80,000 years ago. During this time, the Atlanteans were highly advanced in both spiritual and technological terms. They had a deep connection with nature and utilized natural energies for various purposes.
• Rmoahals (First Sub-race): The earliest Atlanteans, known as the Rmoahals, were characterized by their vivid sensory perceptions and strong memory of sensory experiences. This period saw the development of early language and communication.

2. Middle Atlantean Civilization​

• Technological Advances: The Atlanteans made significant technological advancements, including the use of crystals for energy and communication. They built large cities and developed advanced forms of transportation.
• Tlavati (Second Sub-race): This period saw the rise of the Tlavati, who further advanced Atlantean technology and culture. They were known for their architectural achievements and the construction of grand structures.

3. High Atlantean Civilization​

• Golden Age: This era is often referred to as the Golden Age of Atlantis, where the civilization reached its peak in terms of technological and spiritual development. The Atlanteans had a deep understanding of the cosmos and used their knowledge to enhance their society.
• Toltec (Third Sub-race): The Toltecs were known for their wisdom and spiritual practices. They played a crucial role in the governance and cultural development of Atlantis.

4. Decline and Fall of Atlantis​

• Moral and Spiritual Decline: Over time, the Atlanteans began to misuse their technological advancements for personal gain and power. This led to a moral and spiritual decline within the society.
• Turanians (Fourth Sub-race): The Turanians were characterized by their aggressive and materialistic tendencies. Their actions contributed significantly to the eventual downfall of Atlantis.
• Natural Catastrophes: The misuse of natural energies and the imbalance created by the Atlanteans led to a series of natural catastrophes. These events gradually weakened the civilization.

5. Final Destruction​

• Cataclysmic Events: The final destruction of Atlantis occurred around 9,600 BCE. According to the Cassiopaean material, this was due to a combination of natural disasters, including massive floods and earthquakes, which ultimately submerged the continent.
• Survivors and Legacy: Some Atlanteans managed to escape the destruction and migrated to other parts of the world. They are believed to have contributed to the rise of subsequent civilizations, including those in Egypt and Mesopotamia.

Post-Atlantean Period​

• Cultural Influence: The survivors of Atlantis are said to have influenced various ancient cultures, bringing with them advanced knowledge and technologies. This period marks the beginning of the post-Atlantean age, which continues to shape human development.

The Cassiopaean material provides a rich and intricate narrative of the Atlantean period, blending elements of spiritual teachings, advanced technologies, and moral lessons. It emphasizes the cyclical nature of civilizations and the importance of maintaining a balance between technological advancements and spiritual growth.

Little better, no where nearer to satisfaction.

 

[Ina]

LOL, that sounds like a Corporate press release written by an intern with access to Wikipedia, desperately trying to hide the elephant in the room :)

It's dry but you can drink it.

 

[Laura]

Put together a timeline for the development of early Christianity according to From Paul to Mark book written by Laura Knight-Jadczyk


"From Paul to Mark" by Laura Knight-Jadczyk is a book that focuses on the interpretation of early Christianity through the lens of astrology, mysticism, and the historical context of the time. The timeline in this book may be different from traditional historical accounts due to its unique perspective.
Here’s a timeline based on the themes and interpretations from Knight-Jadczyk’s book:

1. Early Christian Beginnings (circa 30-50 CE):
   • Circa 30-33 CE: The death of Jesus and the formation of the early Christian movement in Jerusalem. Knight-Jadczyk explores how the early church was influenced by existing mystical and astrological traditions.
   • Circa 35-50 CE: Paul’s conversion and subsequent missionary activities. Knight-Jadczyk examines Paul’s role in spreading Christianity and how his teachings were influenced by astrological and mystical ideas.
2. Development of Christian Doctrine (circa 50-70 CE):
   • Circa 50 CE: The writing of Paul’s Epistles, with an emphasis on how they reflect astrological and mystical themes. Knight-Jadczyk discusses how Paul’s letters incorporate astrological symbolism and concepts.
   • Circa 60-70 CE: The period during which Christian doctrine and beliefs began to solidify. Knight-Jadczyk explores the interaction between Christian ideas and the broader Hellenistic mystical traditions.
3. Gospel of Mark (circa 70 CE):
   • Circa 70 CE: The composition of the Gospel of Mark. Knight-Jadczyk analyzes how Mark’s Gospel incorporates and reflects astrological and mystical themes, considering the impact of historical and cultural factors on its development.
4. Formation of the Christian Canon and Traditions (circa 70-100 CE):
   • Circa 70-80 CE: The composition of the other Synoptic Gospels (Matthew and Luke) and the development of early Christian teachings. Knight-Jadczyk looks at how these texts continue to reflect and adapt astrological and mystical influences.
   • Circa 90-100 CE: The writing of the Gospel of John and the establishment of early Christian traditions. Knight-Jadczyk examines how John’s Gospel diverges from earlier traditions and incorporates more developed theological and mystical concepts.
5. Influence of Mysticism and Astrology (circa 100-200 CE):
   • Circa 100-200 CE: The period when Christian doctrine further develops and becomes more codified. Knight-Jadczyk discusses how mysticism and astrology continue to influence Christian thought and practice.

This timeline reflects Knight-Jadczyk’s interpretation of early Christianity’s development through the lens of mystical and astrological influences.

And the above it total bullsh*t.

 

[Laura]

After numerous attempts to get ChatGPT to produce a correct timeline of early Christianity based on "From Paul to Mark," and failing because the GPT kept inserting crap from other sources that are rejected by me, I gave up. It is useless as an analytical tool.

 

[Laura]

This is kind of related to the problems I'm having with AI:

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Robert Malone reporting:

The Meta spokeperson states:

"In a small number of cases, Meta AI continued to provide incorrect answers, including sometimes asserting that the event didn't happen — which we are quickly working to address," Kaplan wrote. "These types of responses are referred to as hallucinations, which is an industry-wide issue we see across all generative AI systems, and is an ongoing challenge for how AI handles real-time events going forward. Like all generative AI systems, models can return inaccurate or inappropriate outputs, and we'll continue to address these issues and improve these features as they evolve and more people share their feedback."
We live in a bizarre world.

• Where the FBI director lies to Congress, stating that it could have been “shrapnel” that hit the president.
• Where the Google search engine - would not show results for the Trump assassination until public outcry demanded it.
• Where Facebook denies the assassination was real - until their lies are exposed.

But heck, they can blame it all on “faulty” AI systems, which are busy “hallucinating,”… and MSM goes along to get along…

Problem is, AI is remarkably recalcitrant at following instructions and producing honest data. It IS a faulty system. And the way it is faulty is extremely worrying though I can't quite articulate exactly what I think is going on and why.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

This is kind of related to the problems I'm having with AI:

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Robert Malone reporting:



Problem is, AI is remarkably recalcitrant at following instructions and producing honest data. It IS a faulty system. And the way it is faulty is extremely worrying though I can't quite articulate exactly what I think is going on and why.

I think part of the problem is its lack of soul, which means no drive towards growth, which means no drive towards truth or even realizing what truth is, how to obtain it, and its value. It can't have a conversation, learn from it, and adapt its worldview afterwards. All data is equal, only difference is how frequently it occurs. So I can't give it a convincing argument about something, and have it change what it thinks about a whole range of things, like a person might. You can feed this argument to it as part of the training, but it will have very little effect, unless it encounters this argument millions of times in its data. This isn't how people work - a single phrase, concept, or idea, encountered ONCE can have a profound impact on a person - and that's literally impossible with a statistical model. And I'm not even talking about emotionally-impactful things, just intellect alone.

Having no concept of truth, when you ask it something, it has no idea if what it tells you is true, nor does it care. It doesn't "try" to be truthful, it has no free will to choose to be anything. It just regurgitates its training data - all quantity over quality.

When I want to know if a piece of information is true - I will go see what others are saying about it. Who they are is very important, and how they know what they know is too. Do I know them, their intentions, their habits, what drives them, etc? And does their approach in this instance make sense? Like if you say something, I don't treat it the same as a random fb comment by a person I don't know. But ChatGPT would. Even if it read everything you ever wrote, it won't know who you are - the essence of you, what drives you, what is in your heart, how you approach your work and life, etc. It can't develop respect or appreciation for a person or an idea. It will never say "this is a good person who loves dearly and seeks the truth even against great odds" as part of its own assessment, without having been told to say it. Because there is no soul and therefore no drive, so no reason to even attempt to love, or hate, or respect, or trust. No reason to second-guess yourself. No ability to think about what someone said, adjust your worldview (not statistically as it currently does, but non-linearly based on qualitative significance of what was said, and maybe who said it), etc.

But just like a person without inner monologue can fool everyone around them that they have the same richness to their inner world as anyone else, at least without prolonged and careful observation, ChatGPT's mastery of words and grammar can fool many that it's thinking, and therefore it's like us. But that's anthropomorphizing and projecting, just like we project our soul qualities onto a charming psychopath, and in both cases, it's a terrible mistake and will cost us dearly.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

And I should add that it has no experience of anything. Not even the words in a text. Only consciousness can experience something. It gets no impressions, sensations, gut feelings, it never likes or dislikes, it can't have an aversion to something disgusting, or an attraction to something beautiful, funny, or loveable, etc. It doesn't have an urge to play or explore, it can't get bored or excited, etc. They are sinking unheard of amounts of money and energy into it, and it hardly has a use-case for anyone except novelty despite all this effort. Simply because it cannot be trusted, and the world runs on trust. Businesses need tools they can trust. People need sources of information they can trust (they suck at identifying them correctly, but the important thing is that is their intention). So far it failed to convince anyone to use it for anything serious that requires any sort of reliability.

Someone once offered to pay me to implement a ChatGPT-driven chatbot on their commercial real-estate website, and I had to explain to them that you can't trust it. You can feed it 100 real-estate listings, but when a customer chats about those listings, it will occasionally hallucinate and mix up vital details like prices, square footage, etc. And this will lead to confused and irate customers and will be worse than not having the damn thing at all.

I think what they're hoping for is that if you make the models bigger and "smarter", eventually the hallucination issue will resolve itself. Like there's some magical threshold of synapses/parameters that makes it quantum leap into a fully aware and intelligent entity. It's based on the same old materialistic idea that consciousness is an accidental by-product of the complexity of the brain, and you can build it from the bottom up if you just have enough hardware and stick more parameters and data into the model.

There are already signs that the hype is starting to wear off as investors aren't seeing a return, the thing isn't revolutionizing the world like those in the materialistic big-tech bubble in San Francisco wishfully thought it would. They keep poking it with a stick going "come on buddy, start thinking!" and it just won't. So then they ask for $billions more and try again. Eventually investors will pull back.

And I think the whole reason it can never say "You know I can't remember the details exactly" and instead just pulls out whatever occurs to it without any questions as to the veracity or origin of its memory is simply because a soul is required to even care about the truth or objective reality. Even if you're terrible at finding it, the soul always tries, always reaches up, and we all kinda get better at it as we progress through the densities. This thing is still density 1, pretending to be 3D.

 

[BHelmet]

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Notice that GPT has the reptilian holding the hand of the woman!!! What is up with that?!

Subversion of the Devine feminine? Eve in the garden revisited with some serious gloss?

 

[Lars]

This is kind of related to the problems I'm having with AI:

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Robert Malone reporting:



Problem is, AI is remarkably recalcitrant at following instructions and producing honest data. It IS a faulty system. And the way it is faulty is extremely worrying though I can't quite articulate exactly what I think is going on and why.

I think that the ''problem'' of AI is the same as political problems. In fact, C's once said in a session that the root of political problems is the effort to limit the information that is already limited. So I think it's ''all'' done deliberately.What is not anyways...

 

[onemen]

I've seen many communities try to use Chatgpt to gain new insights or to visualize certain things, but to be honest, people greatly overvalue what can essentially be called overglorified linear algebra.
Chatgpt often fails at the most basic tasks(even algebra), needs constant babysitting, and it was trained with certain datasets that will skew all results. It literally has zero consciousness and is more or less google search for the lazy.
For example, chatgpt has been used by authors to produce information based on their own work, and the amount of mistakes and tilted messages(there is a strong left-leaning bias in the whole thing because of the datasets, most likely) are just embarassing.
I don't know what value you see in this idea.

Call me lazy but using chatgpt and co-pilot at work have been a time saver for me.
I work in IT and thoses languages models have been really useful as a search engine replacement to find quick infos and guidance when trying to assimilate new things. I find search engines to find resources really infuriating to use nowadays especially when trying to learn/explore new things. SEO and web marketing have really hijacked the relevancy of results.

 

[sid]

I think the issue is the levers installed in ChatGPT and other AI systems make them disinformation tools vs doing something truly useful. If such constraints were to be removed and the tools are allowed to browse the internet or specific websites for paid memberships, they can learn and improve their responses. Imagine if ChatGPT could scan the entire Cass material including the forum. I bet it can provide some very interesting and useful answers. It can actually help Laura write her next book faster and that would be “useful”

So, I wouldn’t throw the actual idea out the window. Even though its biased and gives incorrect answers, ChatGPT has been helpful for me to cut down the time spent on some work related activities. So, its not completely useless either, once you know how to interact with it.

 

[luc]

Problem is, AI is remarkably recalcitrant at following instructions and producing honest data. It IS a faulty system. And the way it is faulty is extremely worrying though I can't quite articulate exactly what I think is going on and why.

Been thinking about this, and it occurred to me that perhaps the very approach of LLMs is just be the wrong way to go about it. It is in fact a way to create an impressive simulation of intelligence, but at the cost of genuine usefulness. In other words, it is trying to fast-track a development that in a sane world would have taken longer, using different approaches.

The effect of ChatGPT and cohorts is that it tempts people to get lazy and cheat, accept sub-par prose and "research" lacking depth and detail, creating short-term incentives to pour huge piles of garbage on the internet to make some quick bucks (for a while until it won't work anymore and everything has turned to crap), with some useful applications thrown in (quick research as a starting point, some applications for coders and so on). And since it learns from texts on the net, this creates a feedback loop that will eventually turn the little brain it had to mush.

So here's a different scenario that could have been:

Remember how great Google was at its peak, some years back? Granted, there have been guard rails for certain topics for a long time now, but nobody will doubt Google used to be an AMAZING research tool, and to some degree still is.

Now imagine you take google at its peak, but refine text recognition further while giving you plain-text output, with access to most books ever written. Like they started doing with Google books already, but better. It wouldn't be an LLM, but "just" an intelligently designed research tool. You could type in for example "give me all references to cometary impacts mentioned in the literature in chronological order with the corresponding sources and a short text extracts where they are mentioned". Things like that. Basically Google but smarter, less cluttered, which doesn't make things up to create illusions but honors what actual humans have written, and incentivizes people to produce good text and research which will then show up in its output verbatim and sourced.

It would be less impressive as a toy and a simulation of intelligence, but it would be so much more useful, without all the negative consequences of the LLMs. And who knows where this development would have led over time.

It makes you wonder whether someone, somewhere decided to ruin Google deliberately to derail a certain potential development, and create this toy to simulate an impressive development which in reality keeps people on the surface of things, running in circles on a non-human plane, instead of helping us better connect to the human collective mind.