Crash of German Wings Flight over French Alps

I find the Israeli involvement very suspicious: _http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israeli-team-to-return-from-Germanwings-crash-Friday-396025
We are dealing with a German plane crashing in France. Neither country is underdeveloped enough to require foreign help to conduct a search and recovery operation.
 
The people who control the world are well aware of what is to come. The last thing they want is to have the whole world know about it. They want sleeping masses, busy generating economy.
 
It"s like they want to see how far they can go with a "story" and still have people believe it!
 
Falling Water said:
It"s like they want to see how far they can go with a "story" and still have people believe it!

Ordinary humans are the lab rats in their story making experiments, it seems.
 
mkrnhr said:
I find the Israeli involvement very suspicious: _http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israeli-team-to-return-from-Germanwings-crash-Friday-396025
We are dealing with a German plane crashing in France. Neither country is underdeveloped enough to require foreign help to conduct a search and recovery operation.

Thought the same when the FBI went to help them with the investigation _http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/03/26/lead-brown-fbi-investigation-germanwings-crash.cnn
 
Perceval said:
sitting said:
Hi Pashalis,

I like Laura's version.

Maybe something so utterly strange happened, and they got so freaked out--that the cover story began--and has stayed somewhat incoherent. And that they're not even all that worried about smoothing over the story because they're so deeply afraid.

Also I wonder how many of the Germanwing pilots (who had refused to fly) have gone back to work.

Yeah, I like that one too. But there are 3 possibilities that I can see.

1) Laura's high strangeness

2) Something put a hole in the plane causing the pilots to immediately descend, they then lost control and hit the mountain

3) Someone took control of the plane via the uninterruptible autopilot and deliberately crashed it into the mountain.

Could be a combination of the above? Maybe the plane was impacted by fireball/EMP and the military got the order to "assist" the plane to fall in the mountains where it could be easier to make a cover up story because of the lack of witnesses.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, the Yemen operation started right after the crash? It reminds me of this session:

Laura said:
Q: (Pierre) Was it some density glitch?

(L) Were these hyperdimensional or 4D bleedthrough glitches?

A: Yes. Just like Flight 370.

Q: (Pierre) So, was it like for Flight 370, was it a not-so-subtle message to the PTB?

A: Not a message, but a "sign." Notice how quickly the Iraq problem exploded.

Q: (Pierre) So MH370 was a sign related to the third world war, like these radar glitches were signs of this Iraq invasion?

(L) I don't think you have to bring 370 into it, because they're not saying 370 was a sign. They're saying that these glitches were a sign.

(Perceval) They said Flight 370 was interpreted as something weird going on...

(L) Yeah...

(Perceval) And maybe it's part of the pressure put on them: they feel that fear, the pressure, and these just make it worse. And they see it again happening, and they go, "Holy shit! What's going on?! Let's set Iraq on fire. That'd be a good solution!"

(L) Fits with their modus operandi.

A: Works for us!
 
mabar said:
mkrnhr said:
I find the Israeli involvement very suspicious: _http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israeli-team-to-return-from-Germanwings-crash-Friday-396025
We are dealing with a German plane crashing in France. Neither country is underdeveloped enough to require foreign help to conduct a search and recovery operation.

Thought the same when the FBI went to help them with the investigation _http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/03/26/lead-brown-fbi-investigation-germanwings-crash.cnn

Maybe they got involved just because there were Israeli and American citizens among the victims ? Just a thought, FWIW.

Cf. Passengers list: _http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/25/world/europe/germanwings-victims.html?_r=0

and _http://www.ibtimes.com/germanwings-passenger-list-frustration-brews-people-await-names-crash-victims-1858530
 
If I understand correctly: All was disintegrated in this terrible accident, bodies, carcass of the plane, even the "black box" was broken but 40 mobile phones are in good shape and we will be able to have images of the last minutes of the accident? Is that what I understand or am I crazy? So they are telling to me, to them that they believe anything as I can see, that mobiles are stronger than a black box and a airplane body? I really think they are completely nuts.
 
Palinurus said:
Maybe they got involved just because there were Israeli and American citizens among the victims ? Just a thought, FWIW.
Cf. Passengers list: _http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/25/world/europe/germanwings-victims.html?_r=0
According to the NYT, there are at least 15 nationalities among the victims. It's unlikely to have 15 different rescue teams, each one supposedly researching for their own nationals. It's just another example, among many others, of the complete submission of the French authorities to the US and Israel. Any other country would have said "no thanks, we have specialists here for this kind of operations" (which they incidentally have).

loreta said:
Is that what I understand or am I crazy? So they are telling to me, to them that they believe anything as I can see, that mobiles are stronger than a black box and a airplane body? I really think they are completely nuts.

It's like the indestructible passeport of 911, they still count on the fact that people in front of their TV's are stupider then they are.
 
loreta said:
If I understand correctly: All was disintegrated in this terrible accident, bodies, carcass of the plane, even the "black box" was broken but 40 mobile phones are in good shape and we will be able to have images of the last minutes of the accident?

They don't say that they are in good shape, but "heavily damaged". But still :rolleyes: One phone even made it through with a video that captures the last minutes of the flight with people screaming, etc. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Most of this stuff filters through Brice Robin, the French prosecutor. They are obviously making it up while they go and he adds his own flavor to it. He was the one who was reported seeing on inspecting the site shortly after the crash with a helicopter "men, women, babies, yes, even babies. It was a horrific sight." Couple of days later we learn that everything, bodies and all was pulverized. Ahem? Needless to say you can't find his statement anymore on the Guardian website. Then his claim that Lubicz was alive and conscious until the end because one could hear his breathing on the recorder - until experts claimed that no way one can hear breathing on such a device. And so on and so forth. Every Hollywood movie has a more believable plot.

I go with Laura's estimate that something truly unbelievable happened that had to be covered on the fly. The story is too much sketched together to be premeditated.

M.T.
 
I agree. My comment was a "little" ironic, by the way.
One question that comes to my mind is if it is possible that people in the airplane would have been able to send messages in the last minutes to their friends or parents with their mobiles? So if not it was because no transmission was available or maybe because the accident was something that happened too fast, in a second.

I remember one year I phoned to my sister that was in a airplane. I didn't know she was still in the airplane, I though she arrived, but no, she was still in the airplane and she answer me with her mobile.
 
Minas Tirith said:
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I go with Laura's estimate that something truly unbelievable happened that had to be covered on the fly. ...

From one interpretation to the other, everything seems unbelievable in this catastrophe.
May be something that nobody can understand happened...
 
Eos said:
Minas Tirith said:
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I go with Laura's estimate that something truly unbelievable happened that had to be covered on the fly. ...

From one interpretation to the other, everything seems unbelievable in this catastrophe.
May be something that nobody can understand happened...
Something that nobody can really understand happened so far... Except that low cost companies are exploiting their crews and making profit of their passengers, risking their lives...
 
Here's an article from last year about Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370, published 8 days after it vanished, discussing the possibility of it having been remotely hijacked. It was assumed at this point that it would surely only be a matter of time before the pane was found.

I'm posting it in this thread rather than the MH370 one because the cyber hack/remote control scenario is probably what happened to Germanwings Flight 9525.

Is missing Malaysian jet the world’s first CYBER HIJACK? Chilling new theory claims hackers could use a mobile phone to take over the controls

Daily Mail, 16 March 2014

_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2582015/Is-missing-Malaysian-plane-world-s-CYBER-HIJACK.html

A chilling theory suggests the missing Malaysian Airlines plane could have been hijacked using a mobile phone or USB stick.

An anti-terror expert believes the speed, altitude and direction of the aircraft could have been changed, simply by sending radio signals from a small remote device.

A framework of 'codes' created by cyber terrorists would also be able to get into the plane's in-flight entertainment system and override the security software.

It is also believed, once the systems have been successfully hacked, the plane could be landed by remote control.

The theory has emerged as the search for flight MH370 continues to grow, with 25 countries now involved in the rescue effort.

Yesterday, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak confirmed the plane's disappearance was the result of a 'deliberate act' and could have flown as far as Kazakstan.

Dr Sally Leivesley, a former Home Office official, said: 'It might well be the world’s first cyber hijack.'

Dr Leivesley, who now prepares businesses and governments for potential terrorist attacks, told the Sunday Express: 'There appears to be an element of planning from someone with a very sophisticated systems engineering understanding.'

'This is a very early version of what I would call a smart plane, a fly-by-wire aircraft controlled by electronic signals.'

She added that once the plane is air-side, you can insert a set of commands and codes which can begin a new set of processes.

The 'mobile phone/USB stick' part might have been thrown in to make it seem like absolutely anyone could hijack a plane in this way; the 'terrorist' would need to have 'a very sophisticated systems engineering understanding'...
 
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