Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[RedFox]

I've been away for a few days with work and have had to socialise/been out of my comfort zone (or at least that's how it use to be when I went away with work).
The last few days have brought home that of self observation and using social interactions to bring up/highlight and actively change programs during interacting with others....more so the identifying and challenging of the beliefs on which they have there foundations built.
It has been an eye opener to say the least....and I am feeling extremely comfortable and at ease with myself, so much so my appearance (at least to me in the mirror) seem to have changed....weird.
I've also noticed that my memory/recall for things (both short and long term) has improved dramatically....so much so I can vividly recall things I never knew I remembered.

The resent posts in this thread have tied a lot of old things together for me it seems....some of which have left me feeling quite shocked

So, some of you begin to "see the unseen". I bet you never thought that this was how it would be. You probably thought you'd start seeing ghosts or auras or some of the nonsense that gets propagated by the so-called esotericists and mumbo-jumbo artists.

What is interesting is when the so-called "rational mind," i.e. the intellect fueled by emotion, tries to talk you out of what you are seeing.

I didn't realise it until you said this Laura that I've actually seen this for some years...even before sott....and the more I thought about it (in relation to social interaction and my avoidance strategies of social interactions) the more it dawns on me that I've "seen the unseen" as long as I can remember....and I find this quite shocking (for some unknown reason).

It has brough back countless memories......

Something that really chills me is dead or soulless eyes. I often notice that when people are talking to me, their eyes are flat – there is no life in them, even though they may appear quite enthusiastic or animated in what they are saying. I may be enjoying what they are saying and their enthusiasm, and suddenly I notice that their eyes are dead. It is a shock and quite chilling to observe this and ponder the implications, to realise that I am having a conversation with a machine, and that all their thoughts, feelings, reactions, words and movements – in short, everything about the person – is mechanical.

I remember staring in horror as a small child at certain people.......whats worse is it felt like whatever was behind the eyes noticed me notice it....and I would know it knew I'd noticed it (sorry for the tongue twister)....which would make it worse....
This has been my life, so to 'see these things' is just part of me....what I realise is that my programs and rational mind have tried there best to protect me from these things....by shutting it out.
More so I became convinced that what it was me that was the problem (especially as a teenager).....I would 'see' fear or disgust in others when they looked at me. I have very strong programs to do with Not making eye contact with others....it finally makes sense as to why I have them.

It seems to have been twisted into a almost overwhelming fear of what 'other would see in me' if I made eye contact.

I even went through a period where (just after my depression) others would see me on the street, and only when they made eye contact would there expression change...and I had a few people literally stop mid stride in fear 'at what they saw in me'.....which only reinforced the belief that I was worthless.

I think....but I could be wrong....that what it actually was, was a projection of the fear I felt at 'what I saw' when I was a child....
I'd really like someone to confirm if this seems to be the case.....digging up core/life time programs is a pretty scary thing.

I remember being totally scared by a certain stare from a guy who had pathological fame and past history. It was a clear red flag. Reminds me of this:

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm

In the book Violent Attachments, women and men have noted the particular stare of the psychopath - it is an intense, relentless gaze that seems to preclude his destruction of his victim or target. Women, in particular, have reported this stare, which is related to the "predatorial" (reptilian) gaze; it is as if the psychopath is directing all of his intensity toward you through his eyes, a sensation that one woman reported as a feeling of "being eaten." They tend to invade peoples' space either by their sudden intrusions or intimidating look-overs (which some women confuse for sexuality.)

Creepy but true!

This worried me greatly when I read that quote here a few years ago now....before sott/after my depression I realised (or so I thought at the time) that I didn't know how to interact socially, especially with women. I have a vague recall that 'The Celestine Prophesies' mentioned a sort of staring at someones eyes to 'see the real them behind them'....which included projecting your own energy on to them...so I tried an experiment once at the supermarket once on a girl standing in line at the till with me....and there was a connection and she sort of got transfixed with my gaze.
To not have a women react in fear to 'eye contact'....infact the opposite was a pretty big (ego?) boost to me. But a day or two later it dawned on me that it was manipulative/a violation some how.....which then reinforced my worthlessness again.

To read the above the first time...and even to some extent now sure does trigger off not only 'worthlessness'...but more so the 'I'm a psychopath' thoughts...urg

In it he describes this "staring in the eyes" by hybrids and greys that abductees are subjected to and by which they are body and mind controlled by it. I am thinking that intense staring in somebody's eyes (ala Art of Living) may just hypnotically open a window with all the implications of such, like leaving the window open for one thing.

I read something else very similar to this lately in an exert from Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens by John E. Mack:

The eyes have a compelling power, and the adbuctees will often wish to avoid looking directly into them because of the overwhelming dread of their own sense of self, or loss of will, that occurs when they do so.

In any case, this discussion reminds me of the phrase that the eyes are the window to the soul... and I shall add "or lack thereof". And I had a similar experience today at the bookstore. A very tall, blonde-haired young man was in front of me. I was thinking he was a good looking guy until he turned around for a moment and looked me in the eyes. Just for a second maybe. And it really disturbed me. There was nothing about his facial expression that was unnerving, but something in/behind his eyes was very predatory and I did not like it.

....which brings up some of the older memories of 'dreams' I use to have. I have had a few dreams of staring into 'aliens' eyes. The last I recall was a year or two ago when I first found sott (or maybe just before), of an alien staring into my eyes and 'pushing' into my head (energetically?).....part of me stopped it, while I realised that in doing so it had left itself open....so I pushed back.
The terror from this thing when it realised I was doing to it what it was trying to do to me....well the terror from it triggered my 'predators mind' for sure.
The dream ended a second or two later when it felt like my left achilles heal had been stabbed by something sharp and I was now bleeding to death....

I honestly have no idea if that's even relevent....dreams being totally subjective things....but to say I've had a few where I realised something was crawling about in my head, only to leave itself open to read its thoughts....has happened many times in my life.

One last thing that may or may not go with 'seeing the unseen' is seeing/knowing the intent of others.....it goes with the eye contact quite closely, but you don't even have to be able to see a parson to know there intent sometimes. The most obvious example I can give (and I pay attention to it daily, and have done for years) is driving down a motor way and knowing when someone wants to pull into your lane before they even indicate to do so.
Its not always there, but sometimes its extremely strong.
The other time I felt such a thing was (and I may have posted this before) around the same time in my life as the 'stopping someone at 100 meters' thing. I was walking through town and became aware (before I saw) that two lads had there intent 'fixed' on me even thought they didn't make eye contact. I was very surprised to have this happen in the middle of a packed town centre.
I felt like I was 'prey' to them...and putting two and two together I figured (as they where walked side by side towards me, so I would either have to stop or walk thought the middle of them) that they where going to pick pocket me...(if town had been empty I could well imagine they'd have stabbed me and not thought twice).
So I puffed myself up and made eye contact with both of them (with some pretty hostile thoughts in mind along the lines of "oh no you don't") and they stopped and stepped sideways as I walked through the middle of them.

Actually, thinking about it I recall doing similar things as a kid to avoid being bullied at school.....I 'knew' when it was coming even if I couldn't see them until I went round a corner.

Apologies for the long post....this has brought so many things to the surface for me......picking through what was/is me, what is projected and what is the predators mind (or something else) in all these interactions I recall is going to take me a long time.

 

[border]

Hello,

Maybe this is nothing important but do you see some strange things on the video?

For instance at 08:20?

I can give you more timestamps :)

 

[abstract]

the EE video? i thought i saw bugs flying around in some parts. thats all.

 

[Jacques]

Hello,

Maybe this is nothing important but do you see some strange things on the video?

For instance at 08:20?

I can give you more timestamps :)

Hi Border,

Welcome to this forum.

Since you are a new here, we recommend to all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, how they found the cass material, what books have they read?

You can read a couple of intro and you will get the general idea.

Thank you

 

[truth seeker]

I've been away for a few days with work and have had to socialise/been out of my comfort zone (or at least that's how it use to be when I went away with work).
The last few days have brought home that of self observation and using social interactions to bring up/highlight and actively change programs during interacting with others....more so the identifying and challenging of the beliefs on which they have there foundations built.
It has been an eye opener to say the least....and I am feeling extremely comfortable and at ease with myself, so much so my appearance (at least to me in the mirror) seem to have changed....weird.
I've also noticed that my memory/recall for things (both short and long term) has improved dramatically....so much so I can vividly recall things I never knew I remembered.

The resent posts in this thread have tied a lot of old things together for me it seems....some of which have left me feeling quite shocked

So, some of you begin to "see the unseen". I bet you never thought that this was how it would be. You probably thought you'd start seeing ghosts or auras or some of the nonsense that gets propagated by the so-called esotericists and mumbo-jumbo artists.

What is interesting is when the so-called "rational mind," i.e. the intellect fueled by emotion, tries to talk you out of what you are seeing.

I didn't realise it until you said this Laura that I've actually seen this for some years...even before sott....and the more I thought about it (in relation to social interaction and my avoidance strategies of social interactions) the more it dawns on me that I've "seen the unseen" as long as I can remember....and I find this quite shocking (for some unknown reason).

It has brough back countless memories......

Something that really chills me is dead or soulless eyes. I often notice that when people are talking to me, their eyes are flat – there is no life in them, even though they may appear quite enthusiastic or animated in what they are saying. I may be enjoying what they are saying and their enthusiasm, and suddenly I notice that their eyes are dead. It is a shock and quite chilling to observe this and ponder the implications, to realise that I am having a conversation with a machine, and that all their thoughts, feelings, reactions, words and movements – in short, everything about the person – is mechanical.

I remember staring in horror as a small child at certain people.......whats worse is it felt like whatever was behind the eyes noticed me notice it....and I would know it knew I'd noticed it (sorry for the tongue twister)....which would make it worse....
This has been my life, so to 'see these things' is just part of me....what I realise is that my programs and rational mind have tried there best to protect me from these things....by shutting it out.
More so I became convinced that what it was me that was the problem (especially as a teenager).....I would 'see' fear or disgust in others when they looked at me. I have very strong programs to do with Not making eye contact with others....it finally makes sense as to why I have them.

It seems to have been twisted into a almost overwhelming fear of what 'other would see in me' if I made eye contact.

I even went through a period where (just after my depression) others would see me on the street, and only when they made eye contact would there expression change...and I had a few people literally stop mid stride in fear 'at what they saw in me'.....which only reinforced the belief that I was worthless.

I think....but I could be wrong....that what it actually was, was a projection of the fear I felt at 'what I saw' when I was a child....
I'd really like someone to confirm if this seems to be the case.....digging up core/life time programs is a pretty scary thing.

I too have "seen" this in people. For much of my life, in fact. What I eventually came to conclude (I don't feel this way now) was that there was something wrong with me. I ended up feeling uncomfortable/self conscious with it and developed a problem with looking at people. This, in turn, led me I think to having social anxiety which was and still is debilitating.

Over the last year and a half, I was also seeing this in children (insert demonic child movie here) which really freaked me out.

Perhaps I'll start a thread about social anxiety if there isn't one already...

One last thing that may or may not go with 'seeing the unseen' is seeing/knowing the intent of others.....it goes with the eye contact quite closely, but you don't even have to be able to see a parson to know there intent sometimes. The most obvious example I can give (and I pay attention to it daily, and have done for years) is driving down a motor way and knowing when someone wants to pull into your lane before they even indicate to do so.
Its not always there, but sometimes its extremely strong.
The other time I felt such a thing was (and I may have posted this before) around the same time in my life as the 'stopping someone at 100 meters' thing. I was walking through town and became aware (before I saw) that two lads had there intent 'fixed' on me even thought they didn't make eye contact. I was very surprised to have this happen in the middle of a packed town centre.
I felt like I was 'prey' to them...and putting two and two together I figured (as they where walked side by side towards me, so I would either have to stop or walk thought the middle of them) that they where going to pick pocket me...(if town had been empty I could well imagine they'd have stabbed me and not thought twice).
So I puffed myself up and made eye contact with both of them (with some pretty hostile thoughts in mind along the lines of "oh no you don't") and they stopped and stepped sideways as I walked through the middle of them.

Actually, thinking about it I recall doing similar things as a kid to avoid being bullied at school.....I 'knew' when it was coming even if I couldn't see them until I went round a corner.

Apologies for the long post....this has brought so many things to the surface for me......picking through what was/is me, what is projected and what is the predators mind (or something else) in all these interactions I recall is going to take me a long time.

No apologies necessary!

I know exactly what you mean. It's as if you can feel/see their projections. I can even hear the predator in someone's laugh if that makes sense. I do believe that in some of the cases there is projection going on. Almost as if you can attract some of these types with your thoughts. I think the trick once again comes down to discerning where it's originating from. I also think that one of the methods STS employs is showing you certain patterns/synchronicities in order to try to hook into your programs. If you take the bait, the specific synchronicity keeps showing itself and then increases in intensity (I may be completely off here, so any corrections are always welcome).

What I do now (as practice and I may be completely off in this technique so again, corrections welcome) is to observe it with the intent of not projecting anything (this is towards people that I perceive as being threatening). They will usually look away/back off. This happened about two weekends ago when a guy was ranting loudly down the street. Most people ignored him, some looked and then went back to what they were doing (I don't think he was looking for a confrontation, but just expressing anger. I stopped, turned around and just looked at him. Not angry or confrontational but just to let him know "I see you." He stopped his yelling and continued on. By practicing this, I feel more at ease with people.

Also:

I honestly have no idea if that's even relevent....dreams being totally subjective things....but to say I've had a few where I realised something was crawling about in my head, only to leave itself open to read its thoughts....has happened many times in my life.

Can you explain this further?

 

[T.C.]

Reading the thread on positive dissociation got me thinking about dissociation in general, and whether I'd even properly thought about the state itself, and defined it for myself.

With regards to Seeing, it seems to me to be a choice, in the moment. You can choose to see or not, by either observing actively (being awake?), or observing passively (dissociated).

Observing passively is like a habitual state where you don't think about what you can see; even if you're just sat in a park surrounded by trees, you can either just look at your surroundings, or you can look and THINK about what you see at the same time.

It's like when Laura said that entropic technology is technology that doesn't require any human input. It's a one way thing. Well, dissociation/passive observation is the same... it's just one way, there's no input. And it comes in forms like "taking for granted", "taking at face value", or accepting on assumption, which seem to me to be rooted in belief.

To look/observe actively, means to choose to drop the beliefs and use your brain. I can passively look at my friends and see "T.C.'s good ole friends", and all the emotional distortions and baggage and history and assumptions about them... or I can choose to look at them, with my eyes instead of my heart, and they almost look like different people.

 

[abstract]

Observing passively is like a habitual state where you don't think about what you can see; even if you're just sat in a park surrounded by trees, you can either just look at your surroundings, or you can look and THINK about what you see at the same time.

i have done this "active observation" quite a bit, i know exactly what you mean. other people don't understand my point of view about most things because they "take it at face value" and don't THINK. that's a key point for me is to THINK and make sure i'm not being biased about how i see the world. a lot of people will never understand the true beauty of art, for instance. if you paint a picture of an oak tree, most people look at it and might think that it's just a friggin' oak tree and there's nothing special here. but WHY does an artist paint pictures of trees? why doesn't an artist pursue something that would make him more money than painting pictures of oak trees? it is because (from my view) that an artist learns to find significance in such things. he/she is in AWE of the tree, impressed and humbled by it's design, and humbled by the fact that without the trees to make CO2 into oxygen, we would all surely die. without the sun, we would all die, without water, we would all die. in this way i think an artist has a better grasp on the fact that there is "more than meets the eye" (and there is since reality is an illusion) people who do not THINK in this way will always see a bird as a bird, a star as a star, or a sunset as a sunset. this is why most people don't understand the practice of meditation, all they see is that you sit on the floor and do nothing, and think of it as a waste of time, without realizing that doing nothing can sometimes be the most significant part of your day (assuming it's not done aimlessly)

 

[Mona]

What a great topic, I wish I could be talking to you all in person, I am terrible when it comes to writing my thoughts on a screen. I think too much and that is blocking what I really want to say. But to say it simply it is true that those with psychopathic tendencies do have this different stare to them, it is like the eyes become suspended in motion. I remember this one guy that I met at work, and his eyes were not only emotionless but they were also moving from right to left like in a rem sleep. Has anyone witnessed that on a person who was not asleep but talking to you in a normal conversation? I am glad that you started this topic, because I always wanted to ask someone if it is possible for a person's eyes to move like in a rem sleep while being awake. I tried to move my eyes that way but it is hard to do and I actually felt quite silly. I dont think that this individual did it on purpose or was aware of his eye movements. This happened once and shortly after he quit.

 

[Tina]

But to say it simply it is true that those with psychopathic tendencies do have this different stare to them, it is like the eyes become suspended in motion. I remember this one guy that I met at work, and his eyes were not only emotionless but they were also moving from right to left like in a rem sleep. Has anyone witnessed that on a person who was not asleep but talking to you in a normal conversation? I

Hi,
I've seen that particular eye movement you're talking about on a fellow I briefly dated. It wasn't normal conversation though, he was very angry at me for not agreeing with him about something or other. I thought he was doing it on purpose, but I can't replicate the action either.

He was also the only person I've ever met who displayed semantic aphasia which is quite amazing to observe, actually.

 

[ramaj]

But to say it simply it is true that those with psychopathic tendencies do have this different stare to them, it is like the eyes become suspended in motion. I remember this one guy that I met at work, and his eyes were not only emotionless but they were also moving from right to left like in a rem sleep. Has anyone witnessed that on a person who was not asleep but talking to you in a normal conversation? I

Hi,
I've seen that particular eye movement you're talking about on a fellow I briefly dated. It wasn't normal conversation though, he was very angry at me for not agreeing with him about something or other. I thought he was doing it on purpose, but I can't replicate the action either.

He was also the only person I've ever met who displayed semantic aphasia which is quite amazing to observe, actually.

Hi incognito!, I'm curious about what your observations were in regards to meeting this man who displayed semantic aphasia? I'm only asking because I don't really know what semantic aphasia is and I looked up aphasia and I feel I only partly understand what you stated. I don't mean any disrespect just asking because I think I can learn something new from your statement about your previous experience with others. thank you

 

[Psalehesost]

Regarding this "seeing the unseen", I have since a longer time ago - including before E-E, though well after finding this place - sometimes noticed and "felt" (as opposed to simply thought about) the mechanicalness of people's behavior, how they react and interact according to meaningless scripts. I have also sometimes seen (in combination with the former) as described by others the predator's mind in people - though not yet the "eye"-look thing. (those things seen also perceived in myself)

In addition, there is another thing I have experienced: Looking at people and experiencing not the "looks" of them (as in that thing that people seek to have and "appreciate" in each other), but looking at a predatory, meaty critter - and being aware that my body is also a predatory, meaty critter. Demented predatory, meaty critters all around, in a bizarre parody of "true existence"! Actually, for years I've very seldom seen the "looks" of people as others do. Often there is the sense of looking at, well, simply a kind of fleshy animal body that I am accustomed to thinking of as human. That, and a weak sense of "looks" overlaid on top of it - a surreal construction (and rest assured that I am almost never in the least attracted to people - the very idea of how demented meaty critters find each other "beautiful" is bizarre to me) - would be the "in-between" state of perceiving others typical for me.

 

[ana]

To look/observe actively, means to choose to drop the beliefs and use your brain. I can passively look at my friends and see "T.C.'s good ole friends", and all the emotional distortions and baggage and history and assumptions about them... or I can choose to look at them, with my eyes instead of my heart, and they almost look like different people.

Seems to me the heart is indispensable to see.

Q: (L) What about the so-called seventh, or "third
eye" chakra?
A: Seer. The union of the heart and intellectual higher
centers.

Seeing as I experience it, is an instantaneous and instinctive perception about a being or a situation as a whole, wich means without undissociated it, not only of all its parts but also from the enviroment. The more present we are, broader the vision.

The problem begins when as Laura said:

What is interesting is when the so-called "rational mind," i.e. the intellect fueled by emotion, tries to talk you out of what you are seeing.

Meditation is a very good tool to silence the rational mind, and let emotion flow without harming, and we can try to achieve a similar state as long as we can, with conscious effort and non identifications in all our daily interactions, untill it begins to be our natural state. Well that's how I see it..

 

[Psalehesost]

I'm only asking because I don't really know what semantic aphasia is and I looked up aphasia and I feel I only partly understand what [Incognito] stated.

As for semantic aphasia, I can direct you to the following (my emphasis in quotes):

What Is a Psychopath?

PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension, stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan, and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine emotion.

Adventures with Cassiopaea:

[...] it seems that one of the symptoms of those who consistently make STS choices, is that they develop a kind of semantic aphasia. They may be able to grasp a certain, limited, literal meaning of a word or a concept, but they are simply unable to think any higher than that. I have observed certain people who certainly had the intellectual capacity to do so, but they didn't have the "drive." This is the result of the fact that as the STS mind is fed, the person becomes less and less able to grasp the deeper meanings of things, the hidden reality that is exemplified by the alchemist Fulcanelli in his exposition on cabala, or the "language of the birds." At the same time, those who are making the STO choices become more and more able to reach into these higher realms of pure thought.

What seems apparent to me is that this is not just a single choice, it is a daily choice, a moment by moment choice and that once an individual "wins" just one little battle against the mechanical nature of the STS reality and default choices, and moves even momentarily into that STO realm, it strengthens the ability, however incrementally, to make the next STO choice that is presented. And, for the most part, these choices have to do not only with seeing what IS, but in choosing how to respond to it: creatively or destructively, with truth or wishful thinking and narcissistic personal opinions.

People with small hippocampuses can form "procedural" memories - that is, they can learn to do things that require skill, like reading and writing, and diagramming sentences; teaching English and literature, and performing rituals and collecting data of all kinds, and even aping scholars to a sufficient extent that the non-discriminating observer is easily fooled. The problem is, they have no real ability to associate so as to do anything that is truly creative or new.

This means that they cannot and do not learn from their experiences if it requires the extraction of a principle and applying it to other situations in the realms of pure thought. As Gurdjieff noted, even great literature can be written altogether mechanically.

This, of course, makes me wonder if part of the STS problem is a small hippocampus since semantic aphasia seems to be one of the chief clues that we have noticed in dealing with such individuals.

http://cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/adventures111.htm

You can also search the forum for "semantic aphasia" for a few examples where it is pointed out.

 

[shellycheval]

Sorry I'm a little behind responding to this thread.
Bluestar wrote:

Little microcosmic worlds of activity good & bad are going on right now." At these times I may spot an insect on a wall, or pay attention to a plane going over head or noticing someone not having as good a time as the others around me (just some examples). All the while everyone else is oblivious to their surroundings.

It is incredible how much is going on around us all the time. I too am amazed at how oblivious so many people appear to be to their environment: birds, a flower in the crack of a sidewalk, a deer slipping into the woods, architectural details, and probably most important the interactions or lack thereof of the people around them. While watching a highway of ants busily going about their lives, I used to wonder if anyone was watching us in the same manner; now thanks to Cass & SOTT and some experiences I've had along the way, I think we are being observed by unseen hyperdimensional entities.

Mostly I see the flat, shallow, passive, "the lights are on but no one's home," look in many, if not most, people's eyes. I'm sure when I've been wandering around the store shopping I've had that same look until I can remember myself and be present and more aware. Occasionally though, I'll run into the intense predator gaze and there is no mistaking it.

Once years ago when I was working as a waitress I was walking up to a new table, a single man who was staring intently at me. As I was walking toward him and looking back at him the weirdest sensations started happening. Everything peripherally went out of focus; there seemed to be only him and me in the room. The hair on the back of my neck literally stood up. Time seemed to slow down--it seemed to take forever to cross the room. He appeared to be wearing different clothes than what he had on when I first looked at him--they were now black and with, I know this sounds so dramatically cliche but I really saw it this way, a cape. I start to sweat and feel intense fear--I believed I was in the presence of pure evil and he was grinning at me! It felt like I was walking in water or jello, but I managed to look away and turn back to the kitchen--someone else waited on him. When I had to go back out into the dinning area to wait on my customers, he looked normal and did not look at me again. At the time I completely went into denial telling myself I was hallucinating because I was hungry, tired, stressed etc. I was not the one in my family who saw any high strangeness!--that was my sister: poltergeists, seeing dead people, visions--not me! This kind of experience had never happened to me before or and never quite so dramatically since. I do remember taking away from this was the certainty that true evil existed in this world and it often was in the guise of "normal."
shellycheval

 

[Ollie]

An update on this week's experiences with the Breathing-Meditation programme.

For a change it was relatively uneventful, both during and between sessions. As usual I zoned out after Laura started reading the Prayer of the Soul, coming too well into the music. On the night that I dedicated my 'sleeping session' to Laura and her family, I had great difficulty getting through the words and completing each round of the Prayer. However, I managed it and my eyes were wet at the end.