Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

Gimpy said:
Over the past two weeks I began to feel like I had a kind of darkness around me, closing in a little more each day. I'd never really noticed it like that before. I guess I'd been letting things worry me so much, and obsessing, that I began to have negative emotions. It was like being in a perpetual bad mood. I never had any outward reactions, but I think I might have if I had let it go on. Little things were getting under my skin that should not have been.

Same here. Its seemed to pile on like a bunch of football players last few days. First an old friend wanted to come stay with us, and that was stressful...and ever since I've been foggy with a persistent fever, and other detox reactions. Weird thoughts and almost compulsions to contact people I KNOW are toxic, and 'give the benefit of the doubt' to are chasing around in my head, in addition to feeling like my whole body is in a vise of inaction. And the nightmares are not so nice. Its as if every distraction and misdirected illusion is coming through to pull me off track. In dreams its easier now to really look into these things and see them for what they are, but the whole thing is tiring.

The FOTCM paperwork arrived yesterday, to much joy and inner weeping, and right away everything I set my hand to do crumbled. Its as if the minute something is planned, ka-boom. Crying and just getting some of the emotional frustration out helps some....at the moment I don't know what good I can do anyone in the Fellowship or anywhere else.

When I can get through the physical fog, and do quick pipe breaths, when I see all of it and wonder if it'll ever work out, it makes me more determined to keep at it, knowing that Laura and Ark and the mods have gone through it too.

This too shall pass.....we all just need to keep breathing. :)

I have been thinking that for some people, just being members of FOTCM and doing the EE as recommended is helping to raise the awareness of others we don't even know. So just being a member and working on yourself is something that you can do to help FOTCM. That and just on keeping on with your diet and trying to get your health situation in a better place.

As for depression, negative thoughts, old programs kicking back in, not thinking clearly, I know that you read the latest session and realize that a lot of these things are not coming from within us, but from outside of us and are being used to try to knock us down. You even said as much on that thread, well basically you said as much. :)

You are not the only one to be going through this, which in itself is a big wake-up call. I have had thoughts and feelings that I know are NOT coming FROM ME. But from somewhere else. And knowing this is half the battle, or so I think.

What I found out helped me was whenever thoughts or feelings or a depression descended on me, saying the POTS seemed to stop it in its tracks. After saying the POTS a couple to three times, I felt much better and thought I would pass it on in case it helps others to overcome some of the waves of negativity being thrown at us by those others.
 
Nienna Eluch said:
Gimpy said:
Over the past two weeks I began to feel like I had a kind of darkness around me, closing in a little more each day. I'd never really noticed it like that before. I guess I'd been letting things worry me so much, and obsessing, that I began to have negative emotions. It was like being in a perpetual bad mood. I never had any outward reactions, but I think I might have if I had let it go on. Little things were getting under my skin that should not have been.

Same here. Its seemed to pile on like a bunch of football players last few days. First an old friend wanted to come stay with us, and that was stressful...and ever since I've been foggy with a persistent fever, and other detox reactions. Weird thoughts and almost compulsions to contact people I KNOW are toxic, and 'give the benefit of the doubt' to are chasing around in my head, in addition to feeling like my whole body is in a vise of inaction. And the nightmares are not so nice. Its as if every distraction and misdirected illusion is coming through to pull me off track. In dreams its easier now to really look into these things and see them for what they are, but the whole thing is tiring.

The FOTCM paperwork arrived yesterday, to much joy and inner weeping, and right away everything I set my hand to do crumbled. Its as if the minute something is planned, ka-boom. Crying and just getting some of the emotional frustration out helps some....at the moment I don't know what good I can do anyone in the Fellowship or anywhere else.

When I can get through the physical fog, and do quick pipe breaths, when I see all of it and wonder if it'll ever work out, it makes me more determined to keep at it, knowing that Laura and Ark and the mods have gone through it too.

This too shall pass.....we all just need to keep breathing. :)

I have been thinking that for some people, just being members of FOTCM and doing the EE as recommended is helping to raise the awareness of others we don't even know. So just being a member and working on yourself is something that you can do to help FOTCM. That and just on keeping on with your diet and trying to get your health situation in a better place.

As for depression, negative thoughts, old programs kicking back in, not thinking clearly, I know that you read the latest session and realize that a lot of these things are not coming from within us, but from outside of us and are being used to try to knock us down. You even said as much on that thread, well basically you said as much. :)

You are not the only one to be going through this, which in itself is a big wake-up call. I have had thoughts and feelings that I know are NOT coming FROM ME. But from somewhere else. And knowing this is half the battle, or so I think.

What I found out helped me was whenever thoughts or feelings or a depression descended on me, saying the POTS seemed to stop it in its tracks. After saying the POTS a couple to three times, I felt much better and thought I would pass it on in case it helps others to overcome some of the waves of negativity being thrown at us by those others.


Thank you, and I'm sorry if my second post came off as complaining. :-[ :-[ Its difficult to know where to ask for help at the moment.
 
Gimpy said:
And the "vise of inaction" you mentioned, I think I felt as well. Because my ego was making me feel like the situation was a bad one that needed to be changed immediately, it made me feel like I wasn't doing what was necessary to change it. And my mind translated that into, "I'm not doing anything at all". That's what distracted me from the EE and the work in the first place, and got me obsessing about fixing this "big problem", which is really only a "big problem" if I let my ego convince me that it is. It was, as you say, just pulling me off track.


Best I can describe what it feels like: being pressed into stillness like a small animal, kind of like a vet pinning down a rabbit so it doesn't kick. Predators do this for maximum fear sauce. :mad:

Gimpy said:
I think its both: not doing it often enough, and only managing when I'm stuck. I've been so sick lately its tough to get dressed or even take a shower (which is not a good excuse, how hard is it to sit and breath, really?) The symptoms are weird, a low grade fever of a 99-100, shivering, and feeling so cold I'm sleeping bundled up in a thermal flannel shirt jacket and have yanked out a wool blanket to get warmer. I haven't used the FIR bag in case its something bacterial....I don't want to keep picking it back up. It leaves me feeling exhausted, grouchy, and weak, and today...really mad! If I didn't know better I'd say the Spiders are trying to kill me.

I think it's safe to say that, whatever the similarities, you are going through something much more intense than myself.

Hang in there! You said yourself, it will pass.
 
Oxajil said:
It's great to consider the dream's meaning or advice. But I'm not sure if it's a good thing to base choices on dreams (not saying that you are doing that).
Do keep in mind that what the dream was meant to say to you could also be not like that at all. Be vigilant at all times. (Am not saying that you are not!)

I know that who you are and what you see is more important than where you are. But just wanted to say this.
Sure, I agree with you. Just thought it was interesting to mention. It might be nothing but my wishful thinking acting through sub-conscience.
But lately I do feel like little pieces of mosaic are slowly but surely falling into their place.

There is one thing that worries me though. My jaws are full of mercury. Have some really chunky fillings in the 5ths and 6ths. My dentist explained that removing them would be immense risk for him and me with all the vapors. And also he recons that white fillings wouldn't be strong enough for the back teeth.
I am not so sure what to do.

edit:wrong quoting
 
Laura said:
Also, this morning, right after I got up, there was a really BIG explosion that shook our house, rattled the windows like crazy, I could even feel the shock wave physically. Then, the boom just kept echoing away in the distance very loudly.

While we were out, we saw a halo around the sun exactly like the one in this article:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/205697-Ghana-Halo-Appears-Around-Sun

About 15 minutes later, a lot of clouds formed and then, we looked and there was what could only be a comet trail looking exactly like the one in this image, only without the fire part... like it had already burned out and it was just the tubular smoke trail. Only it was kind of spiraly.

So, all in all, a strange day. I'm going down to cook a nice lamb tagine.
One cannot deal with the signs of the end of civilization on an empty stomach.

I almost don't believe it! So, after all your work, in really uncovering the role that cometary cataclysms have played a part in this planet's history, as well as uncovering the high probability we are heading for another one (cometary cataclysm) you now were treated to glimpse of a comet? My oh my!

Would have been cool if you would have had time to catch the plume on a digital camera!

Yeah, I cannot think of a better response to that one, than getting something good to eat. :cool2:
 
Last weekend at the New Life Expo when EE made its North American debut a couple who are dear friends of ours attended the lecture at our invitation. They were quite impressed and purchased the DVD set.

They practiced the program the following day and are now enthusiastic about it, want to know more about the organization responsible for it, and sincerely feel some beneficial effects after the first trial.

I feel very good about this and thought I’d share.
 
Jerry said:
Last weekend at the New Life Expo when EE made its North American debut a couple who are dear friends of ours attended the lecture at our invitation. They were quite impressed and purchased the DVD set.

They practiced the program the following day and are now enthusiastic about it, want to know more about the organization responsible for it, and sincerely feel some beneficial effects after the first trial.

I feel very good about this and thought I’d share.

:flowers: :clap: :flowers:
 
Gimpy said:
Thank you, and I'm sorry if my second post came off as complaining. :-[ :-[ Its difficult to know where to ask for help at the moment.

For what it's worth, I never thought for a minute that you sounded like you were complaining.

We are all here for each other. We all need to talk about things and get them out in the open. If we all can help each other with our loads, the loads become lighter. :)

As for asking for help, maybe the swamp or family life if you haven't already done so.

You asked this question:

...how hard is it to sit and breath, really?

Sometimes it is very hard. I know the feeling of frustration that takes over when the simplest things seem too hard to do. There have been times at night that I just thought there was no way I was going to be able to do the pipe breathing. I was just plain too tired. So I decided to do the POTS. And in that, as you know, Laura has us do a couple of pipe breaths. I will usually rouse myself enough to do those two, and then I think, oh heck, I can do another....and another....And so at my tiredest, if I only do 5 or 6 pipe breaths before the POTS, that is something that I didn't think I was going to be able to do at all.

If nothing else, just do some deep belly breathing, very slowly. Do not push yourself. Sometimes we need time to heal. But I think that at your worst times, Gimpy, if you can just do the POTS, that this will suffice until you can do some of the pipe breathing.

And as I said, I have found that at times when I find this frustration and negative feelings getting to me, reciting the POTS really seems to clear my head and diffuse those negative feelings.

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Laura said:
One cannot deal with the signs of the end of civilization on an empty stomach.

:rotfl:

I was thinking about this statement all afternoon as I planted Blueberry bushes, strawberries, grape vines, and cherry trees.
(I'm pooped)
:zzz:
 
I noticed something a little different doing the EE tonight. As I was doing the pipe breathing before the POTS, I felt a fair bit of heat generating in my face and my arms (along with the usual tingling all over). Nothing unpleasant, just very warm.

What I like about the pipe breathing at that point in the program is noticing how much more air I can breathe in than when I started. Laura slows down the count on it so we take longer breaths, but I feel I could keep bringing in much more air after she says "hold". Whereas at the beginning, with the slightly quicker count, I feel like I'm filling my lungs to their maximum. It's a great indication of the relaxing and stretching that the muscles and chest cavity have undergone throughout the workout.

I've managed to do the entire program 3 times in five days, now. Usually I'm lucky if I can get to it twice in one week, so I can really feel the effects at the moment: calm, relaxed, clear thoughts. And best of all, even though I do have a few things to be concerned about, I'm not stressing or obsessing about them. Heck, until I wrote that sentence I wasn't even thinking about them! :lol:
 
Stormy Knight said:
There is one thing that worries me though. My jaws are full of mercury. Have some really chunky fillings in the 5ths and 6ths. My dentist explained that removing them would be immense risk for him and me with all the vapors.

That just floors me! It's such a risk to remove them, but darn! There they are in your MOUTH outgassing every time you chew and probably all the rest of the time too!

Stormy Knight said:
And also he recons that white fillings wouldn't be strong enough for the back teeth.

My dentist had porcelain molded fillings made for my back teeth and any other large fillings. One tooth will have to have a root canal and a crown.

Maybe you need to find another dentist? Or find some articles about how to do it and translate them for him to read?
 
Stormy Knight said:
And also he recons that white fillings wouldn't be strong enough for the back teeth.

Yeah, I think you need to find another dentist.

I had huge fillings. It was basically mercury fillings with a little bit of tooth here and there... I would say that my dentist was a sculptor, he filled the gaps with porcelain, molding them right there with his tools.

My guess is that your dentist's experience must be based on people who had crappy diets. My porcelain fillings are quite old now and they haven't cracked not once. With my change in diet, I stopped having problems with my teeth.
 
Laura said:
Stormy Knight said:
There is one thing that worries me though. My jaws are full of mercury. Have some really chunky fillings in the 5ths and 6ths. My dentist explained that removing them would be immense risk for him and me with all the vapors.

That just floors me! It's such a risk to remove them, but darn! There they are in your MOUTH outgassing every time you chew and probably all the rest of the time too!

Stormy Knight said:
And also he recons that white fillings wouldn't be strong enough for the back teeth.

My dentist had porcelain molded fillings made for my back teeth and any other large fillings. One tooth will have to have a root canal and a crown.

Maybe you need to find another dentist? Or find some articles about how to do it and translate them for him to read?

Yes, you need to find an new dentist and if possible an holistic dentist. Last week, I had 4 huge amalgams removed and my dentist followed a specific protocol to remove them including using some little tube in my nose to receive oxygen. Unfortunately they were so big that the only choice that i had to replace them was crowns.

I am still taking a lot of vit c and doing the DMSA protocol. So far, the only side effect that I have is I feel a lot better. :thup:

12 more amalgams to go.
 
Well that is the problem, there is no dentist on my rock properly equipped to extract amalgam fillings.
I heard there is a visiting dentist from UK which specializes in this and I am looking into this.
 
Gandalf said:
Yes, you need to find an new dentist and if possible an holistic dentist. Last week, I had 4 huge amalgams removed and my dentist followed a specific protocol to remove them including using some little tube in my nose to receive oxygen. Unfortunately they were so big that the only choice that i had to replace them was crowns.

I am still taking a lot of vit c and doing the DMSA protocol. So far, the only side effect that I have is I feel a lot better. :thup:

12 more amalgams to go.

Had one dentist near my home quote over $2000.00 to remove 5 old fillings. My daughter found a great dentist that has an in house dental plan for $199. This includes two yearly examinations and cleanings. The hygienist even did a periodontal check along with a thorough cleaning. When quoted the price for the amalgam replacement, it was around $750 for all five. This does not include fixing an old root canal that was done very poorly. For this I have to go to an endodontist. So, it pays to shop around. I will mention to this dentist that I want an oxygen tube in my nose and to make sure that I do not swallow any metal. Thanks for the info. Having my first one removed next week.

As far as my doing the EE program, I have been very laxed. For many reasons that are just excuses. After reading this months C's session and posting here http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=17052.105 I will be doing my hardest to continue the program.
 
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