Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Hesper]

I had a couple crazy detox dreams the past few weeks. I'll post them here (instead of in the dreams thread) and on the EE forum because they started since I started doing EE. They were both the kind where I woke up saying "WHAT just happened?"

In the first one I started off in my room with some forum members. We were all having a sleep over and for some reason my room was possessed and I was too scared to leave it. Finally I apologized to everyone and told them I would clean up, and the next thing I knew I was outside and my dad was telling me that I didn't need a sniper to protect me anymore because I was able to handle the fear of the unknown. I had a weird sense that a dissociated part of my personality was being told that.

Then all of a sudden I was a little boy again, transported into memories of my dad that I can't consciously remember. I could smell his leather jacket and I felt extremely safe knowing, like a child knows, that he would die protecting me.

Well then I watched him walk away and I was left with the sense that I'd never see him again. But at that time I was transported into a room full of children playing hide and seek. A woman was playing with them too, though I couldn't see her face because she was hiding under a table. They were laughing, candles were lit as some of the children were reading to one another, and I realized that it was now my time to be a "father" and to sacrifice my "freedom" for the sake of others. It was a nice dream.

The next dream is the first detox dream I've ever had about my mother. I found myself talking to her, telling her I was sorry I had too much pride to reach out to her and make the first step to heal our relationship. We both cried and I asked her why she never told me anything about her, why I didn't know who she was. She started to tell me but then looked off into space. I grabbed her by her shoulders, knowing that she was dissociating and that I might never get a chance to see her again. But when I looked into her eyes I saw a wide, wide pasture with horses running wild and free. I have the sense that there are things she can never tell, but that it doesn't matter. It was another beautiful dream, and my mother and I have been speaking more ever since.

 

[Explorer]

I've been using three-stage breathing to fight sugar cravings in the late evening for the past two days and it works a treat, no pun intended. I think I've worked through most of the out lets of stored up aggression, but I sometimes get it after the meditation, funnily enough. This happened a few days ago and I basically just swore and ranted for half an hour straight until I fell asleep.

 

[SMM]

I've been having vivid visuals during the meditation portion which are perhaps related to my internal state. Come to think of it I've been having these visuals on the daily even whilst not meditating - some include:

• a ring of fire on the ground [as if fuelled by kerosene] whilst focussing on body/sensations
• being in the jungle wilderness with leaves near eyes during the "clear my eyes so I may see" part of POTS
• a bucket of fresh water about a third full during the "cleanse my heart" part of POTS

Hi Rx,

The anti-stress aspects of EE are enhanced considerably if we do some serious stretching beforehand - legs and waist in particular.

Let go of any concern about wandering thoughts, attend to your breathing whenever you can.– fwiw.

Thanks for the advice on stretching Jerry :)

 

[Lindenlea]

This morning on waking and just lying in bed I decided to do a full EE, having pulled a muscle around my right top rib area yesterday (during some serious garden work), which was affecting my deep breathing.

By the time I started the POTS I was still feeling the odd twinge, so I decided to place my very warm left hand on my rib area and held it there during the whole of the POTS. When I got up I had the most incredible full lung intake of air without any twinge, I felt really good.

The power of prayer!! :D :D

 

[Serendipity]

I've been having vivid visuals during the meditation portion which are perhaps related to my internal state. Come to think of it I've been having these visuals on the daily even whilst not meditating - some include:

• a ring of fire on the ground [as if fuelled by kerosene] whilst focussing on body/sensations
• being in the jungle wilderness with leaves near eyes during the "clear my eyes so I may see" part of POTS
• a bucket of fresh water about a third full during the "cleanse my heart" part of POTS

I read your post a day ago, and last night while doing complete EE program, during POTS and in the moment of 'zoning out' I had a visual of 'someone' (I couldn't see the face, just hands) pouring the bucket of fresh water over a fertile soil inside a rectangular flower planter. I immediately remembered your post and thought it was pretty amazing. But I didn't got excited but just continued to relax.

The next 2 visuals were of a 'someone' (again only hands) plowing the soil with a shovel, and of 'someone's' hand pulling some of the soil (or at least it was something powder like) through the hand and on the ground. When I think of it now, it reminds me of sowing of the seeds, actually. I think there were some other visuals but I couldn't remember what they were about because that's when I got 'zoned out' for good few hours, I think.

What was amazing to me was that this was one of the best EE sessions I've ever had, not because of the 'cool' visuals, but because of noticeable positive effects on my whole being the day after. My mind was clearer and worked faster, I was able to control my horses with more ease and face my social anxiety and external considering was never as easy as it was then. I really was pretty amazed at myself. Like, how could I be this 'cool' and in control and talk with such ease and even with some friends of the friends that I barely knew. We talked quite a lot about some of the topics discussed on the forum, such as the diet, weather changes, psychology, information theory, history etc. One was genuinely curious, the other just 'listened' but had many of his own(disinfo) preconceptions and one was just teasing me about not eating any bread and wheat at all. It was pretty fun, I guess.

But what I want to really say is that I was amazed of the results and power of EE. Yes, I'm aware that it was probably just a temporary effect, but if I keep practicing who knows what else is possible.

I need to add that before EE last night I was in the middle of reading "The Narcissistic Family" and it had quite a huge impact on me. I had many 'missing pieces', 'aha' moments and even tears. And other thing is that I was practicing, or better yet struggling with self remembering and being present in myself just prior and even during the EE session. (I noticed that there is a lot of space for me to work on in that area). So, those 2 things might have also contributed to strong positive effects of my last night's EE session.

PS. I just went out for a smoke and a thought popped in my mind, and I think I should probably write and share this. Up until now I used copy of EE that I found on the internet and didn't pay for. It was at the time I had no money of my own, but that's not the excuse for doing it. I was just 'that kind of person' at that time. Last night, maybe few hours before the EE session I finally donated the money that I mentally meant as compensation for the EE program. This thought only came after writing this post down, and it's pretty amazing 'coincidence', especially when taking into account what C's said on the topic.

Please accept my apology for what I did before.

 

[Serendipity]

This is the session where C's talked about the necessity for compensation.

August 15th 2009
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Q: (L) Okay. Well, we have people working on this breathing and meditation program, and some people are having some unusual experiences physically, and other people are having extreme tiredness, and there's just really the whole gamut going on there. I guess there's really not a clear question about that because that's more or less what we expected: each person is in individual, and the way that they apply the program I guess depends on their level of knowledge...

A: It would be best if you could teach it directly. But under the circumstances with so many in such great need, and the system often restricting their funds and thus their ability to travel and compensate you for your time and energy, it is the best way so far. Some will find their creativity expanding and thus their ability to make more direct connections as a result of the practice!

Q: (L) Why do you say "their ability to compensate me for my time"?

A: We have spoken before about the necessity for energy to be balanced. It is correct for you to make this program available according to the individual ability to compensate. But all must remember that it is STO to GIVE [planchette circles board] ALL to those who ask. You have given all REPEATEDLY and many still do not understand the value nor do they compensatorily give in return. Those who have difficulties with the program may find that they are not giving "all". And that does not always mean money either. It can also mean commitment. Those individuals who still think that you can get something for nothing will find themselves blocked.

Q: (L) Well, what is the nature of this kind of thing? I mean, what do you mean "blocked"?

A: It can take 2 main forms: In the STO candidate, it can be blocked by the subconscious process that knows there is an imbalance. In the "others" it is simply that they are not on the correct frequency to receive. Remember "receivership capability" and also capacity.
{...}

 

[Explorer]

I'm going to begin the full program soon, ideally doing Baha twice a week. How bad is this going to be? I have some real detoxing that needs doing and some serious programs to uproot. However, I want to be able to function properly throughout the day at work.

 

[theos]

I'm going to begin the full program soon, ideally doing Baha twice a week. How bad is this going to be? I have some real detoxing that needs doing and some serious programs to uproot. However, I want to be able to function properly throughout the day at work.

People's reactions to EE are very individual. You may want to try doing the Baha on a night when you don't have to go to work the next day and see how it affects you. If you feel a little discombobulated afterwards you can always cut that portion out and do the three stage breathing, warrior's breath and POTS and try the Baha at a later date. On the other hand, you may have no difficulties at all and have a more quiet, "behind the scenes" emotional detox. You just have to experiment and see what works best for you.

I hope this was helpful.

 

[daddycat]

I've been struggling to do EE regularly. I've maybe done EE twice in the last 3 weeks. Basically I can only do it late at night when everyone else is asleep, and I have to have enough energy at that point before I can start.

I decided to lie down after warrior's breath this last time, even though I concentrate on beatha much better sitting up. So, I did start falling asleep a lot during it, and then come to and realize I was not saying ha.

I do not remember having any visions or experiences, yet.

 

[Nienna]

I'm going to begin the full program soon, ideally doing Baha twice a week. How bad is this going to be? I have some real detoxing that needs doing and some serious programs to uproot. However, I want to be able to function properly throughout the day at work.

As Odyssey said, everyone has individual experiences with EE. What I would recommend is trying the first round and see how you do. If you start feeling overwhelmed, just do the slower, and maybe the medium speed breathing and see how that works on the second round. If you are still feeling out-of-sorts, on the third round, just do the slower breathing. You can substitute belly breathing, or pipe breathing while the tape is going through the faster beatha speeds.

Remember, during the beatha to breath gently. This can be done even in the faster paces. It makes quite a bit of difference, or so I've found out for myself.

 

[sacriface]

Remember, during the beatha to breath gently. This can be done even in the faster paces. It makes quite a bit of difference, or so I've found out for myself.

Ditto. During beatha I used to breathe to the full paste during the faster periods I did it too intensely just trying to keep up with the speed and retain some depth of breathing.

In effect, my lips felt like curling inside my mouth and my hands from elbows down to fingers got stiff and straight like claws that I nearly couldn't move them until it receded. It was described by others earlier on in the topic too.

And doing it as fast, but just more gently erased this problem.

 

[Explorer]

Okay, I will experiment and see how I cope. I have done baha before but was suffering from a chemical imbalance at the time, something I didn't know, so the results were pretty hairy. However, I have solved this issue in the present. I am actually looking forward to beginning the full detox properly, but I just wanted to find out how it would affect me; I thought I was going crazy last time because I didn't put two and two together.

Thank you for the replies everyone, I will let you all know how I get on.

 

[MoonGlow]

Is thee anyone who has been following this thread since the beginning, who can give me a summary of developments/new things learned since the thread began. It's a good one, but it's over three hundred pages long, and I'd like to be able to reap the fruits of this wisdom without regrowing the entire tree.

 

[Mountain Crown]

and then come to and realize I was not saying ha.

Nothing is said during the beatha section, it's just breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth without pausing. :)

 

[Deleted member 4320]

Is thee anyone who has been following this thread since the beginning, who can give me a summary of developments/new things learned since the thread began. It's a good one, but it's over three hundred pages long, and I'd like to be able to reap the fruits of this wisdom without regrowing the entire tree.

Sure, go to this thread (it doesn't replace the whole topic, but this is a good summary) -> http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14410.msg112025#msg112025