We have one at home and we find it very useful.
Iodine and Potassium Iodide
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We have one at home and we find it very useful.
I am just doing liposomal Vitamin C packets a few times a day. I have powder, but would have to combine it with BS to make it less harsh on my teeth. I took 8 drops of 2% Lugol's this morning, which is 20mg. I may go for 25mg and see how that goes.
I just got my PH strips yesterday so I didn't have time to get a baseline. I had taken a teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate before bed and then another in the middle of the night. When I woke up and tested today, I was 7.25. So I may have been even more acidic before starting. I plan to go near 8, as Laura recommended.
Yes, and consider buying sodium ascorbate next time.
I routinely take 10 drops of 2% daily. When I feel under the weather, I often will increase to 20-30 drops of 2% and take that once or twice a day.
Saliva or urine? For me, urine is typically much lower than saliva.
That was the second urination of the morning.
Hi 3D Student,
An article was posted on Sott with a protocol for using iodine in your sinuses that may be helpful. It was written for fungal related chronic sinusitis, but I'v'e found it very effective for clearing out bacterial infections.
I'd suggest you start with the lower number of Lugol's drops and see how it feels. It can burn pretty badly when you first do the wash on sensitive sinuses. I did them 3 times a day for 3-5 days depending on how clear my sinuses were. I hope it works for you and you get better soon.
www.sott.net
An article was posted on Sott with a protocol for using iodine in your sinuses that may be helpful. It was written for fungal related chronic sinusitis, but I'v'e found it very effective for clearing out bacterial infections.
I'd suggest you start with the lower number of Lugol's drops and see how it feels. It can burn pretty badly when you first do the wash on sensitive sinuses. I did them 3 times a day for 3-5 days depending on how clear my sinuses were. I hope it works for you and you get better soon.
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For morning pH 7.25 seems pretty good to me.
Lukasz
Jedi Master
While looking for information about iodine, I stumbled upon an interesting booklet on one of the polish forums. It was written in 1929 by Zdzisław Szpor. The author uses iodine tincture instead of Lugol's solution. It's curious that he supposedly has understood the role of iodine during some kind of psychic experience. He writes about dosages and gives some examples of patients recoveries. One chapter is about the treatment of animals.
It was interesting to read something regarding the iodine protocol written a hundred years ago. The booklet is really short. Here's a synopsis as well as some translated quotes.
Chapter 1 is the author's genesis of his iodine application.
In January 1915 he applied himself iodine tincture internally for the first time because he suspected to be infected with cholera. A while after application he got a fever. The next day he felt completely healthy. Later he used iodine tincture to treat various conditions with success and never became seriously ill since then.
In 1917 he had a severe fever because of frostbite wounds and allegedly had a kind of psychic experience then. He reflected on his health and it was then that he understood the role of iodine.
After 1918 his friends and acquaintances began to use iodine tincture as recommended by him. They reported back exceptional successes in healing all possible contagious diseases. Whenever iodine tincture was applied according to his exact rules, results were always positive. He didn't know of any negative experience.
Since 1919 he tried to interest doctors with his experiences and observations but without success. Except for the few, who gave iodine a try and were impressed with its effectiveness and started to use it as the first cure for patients with contagious diseases.
In 1920 his article regarding iodine - "Jak uniknąć choroby" (How to avoid illness) - was printed in the "Słowo Polskie" newspaper. As a result of the article, some doctors allegedly wanted to bring a lawsuit against him.
Chapter 2 consists of general remarks about his reasoning and understanding of what's going on in a body when iodine tincture is applied.
He says that iodine tincture applied internally, as soon as the first symptoms are observed, forces the organism to react faster than in normal conditions during illness. Iodine tincture applied in a later stage of the disease is also forcing the organism to adequate defense but the exhaustion of the body may be too high to fight the illness in the first attempt.
Later he points at the importance of proper nourishment and warmth. He gives some examples of what to eat during illness.
Chapter 3 is about proceeding in case of the first symptoms.
He advises applying a 10% iodine tincture in a dose of up to 2 drops on every ten kilos of the patient weight. He gives two examples: for about 60kg adult man, 6 - 12 drops. For about 20kg child, 2 - 4 drops.
He says the smaller dose is for people that have never used iodine before and it's easier to trigger a reaction in their bodies and the larger dose is for people that used iodine lately or are in a weaker condition.
He advises that before iodine application patients avoid drinking anything and urinate as much as possible.
Shortly after the application of iodine tincture patient gets a fever. It shouldn't be interrupted in any way. The patient mustn't drink any liquids and should avoid cold. It's best to be accustomed to it gradually.
He says that anyone who follows the steps will recover in a few minutes to a few hours.
Chapter 4 is about the treatment of the flu, pneumonia, measles, scarlatina, smallpox, typhoid fever, and dysentery.
He says that in such cases it's advisable to apply iodine tincture more carefully (0,5 - 1 drop per every ten kilos of body weight) and observe the patient. If there is no reaction for up to 2 hours, iodine tincture should be applied again in the dose up to twice as much as the previous one.
Chapter 5 is about consumption treatment.
He says that iodine tincture should be applied in the dose of 1 - 2 drops per ten kilos of body weight. Every time the fever comes back the new dose should be applied. This should be repeated until no fever will appear for at least 4 weeks. Later, the iodine tincture should be applied every 4 weeks until there won't be any fever after the application.
Chapter 6 is about the treatment of the weak and handicapped kids.
He says that iodine tincture should be applied in one dose every 4 weeks according to the previously mentioned protocol until the application will stop to cause fever.
Chapter 7 is about sore throat treatment.
He advises preparing a mixture of 4 drops of glycerine and 1 drop of normal iodine tincture. Patients should spread the mixture on their throats using a brush and avoid swallowing for 3 minutes. The procedure should be repeated until the sore throat will be cured.
The pain should disappear after 1 - 4 applications.
In chapter 8 he says that iodine tincture is effective in other conditions as well. He mentions stomach problems and women problems but says that he has too little experimental material in that matter to write more.
Chapter 9 is about the most interesting examples of recoveries.
Chapter 10 is about animal treatment.
Chapter 11 consists of closing remarks.
He says that he tried to stick with facts and explains why he didn't mention any of the patient's or doctor's names. He encourages to try the protocol but also points out that the outcome can be positive only when the experimenter familiarizes oneself with the content of this booklet and strictly adheres to the protocol. Not only in regard to iodine but also other recommendations.
It was interesting to read something regarding the iodine protocol written a hundred years ago. The booklet is really short. Here's a synopsis as well as some translated quotes.
Chapter 1 is the author's genesis of his iodine application.
In January 1915 he applied himself iodine tincture internally for the first time because he suspected to be infected with cholera. A while after application he got a fever. The next day he felt completely healthy. Later he used iodine tincture to treat various conditions with success and never became seriously ill since then.
In 1917 he had a severe fever because of frostbite wounds and allegedly had a kind of psychic experience then. He reflected on his health and it was then that he understood the role of iodine.
After 1918 his friends and acquaintances began to use iodine tincture as recommended by him. They reported back exceptional successes in healing all possible contagious diseases. Whenever iodine tincture was applied according to his exact rules, results were always positive. He didn't know of any negative experience.
Since 1919 he tried to interest doctors with his experiences and observations but without success. Except for the few, who gave iodine a try and were impressed with its effectiveness and started to use it as the first cure for patients with contagious diseases.
In 1920 his article regarding iodine - "Jak uniknąć choroby" (How to avoid illness) - was printed in the "Słowo Polskie" newspaper. As a result of the article, some doctors allegedly wanted to bring a lawsuit against him.
Chapter 2 consists of general remarks about his reasoning and understanding of what's going on in a body when iodine tincture is applied.
He says that iodine tincture applied internally, as soon as the first symptoms are observed, forces the organism to react faster than in normal conditions during illness. Iodine tincture applied in a later stage of the disease is also forcing the organism to adequate defense but the exhaustion of the body may be too high to fight the illness in the first attempt.
Later he points at the importance of proper nourishment and warmth. He gives some examples of what to eat during illness.
Chapter 3 is about proceeding in case of the first symptoms.
He advises applying a 10% iodine tincture in a dose of up to 2 drops on every ten kilos of the patient weight. He gives two examples: for about 60kg adult man, 6 - 12 drops. For about 20kg child, 2 - 4 drops.
He says the smaller dose is for people that have never used iodine before and it's easier to trigger a reaction in their bodies and the larger dose is for people that used iodine lately or are in a weaker condition.
He advises that before iodine application patients avoid drinking anything and urinate as much as possible.
Shortly after the application of iodine tincture patient gets a fever. It shouldn't be interrupted in any way. The patient mustn't drink any liquids and should avoid cold. It's best to be accustomed to it gradually.
He says that anyone who follows the steps will recover in a few minutes to a few hours.
Chapter 4 is about the treatment of the flu, pneumonia, measles, scarlatina, smallpox, typhoid fever, and dysentery.
He says that in such cases it's advisable to apply iodine tincture more carefully (0,5 - 1 drop per every ten kilos of body weight) and observe the patient. If there is no reaction for up to 2 hours, iodine tincture should be applied again in the dose up to twice as much as the previous one.
Chapter 5 is about consumption treatment.
He says that iodine tincture should be applied in the dose of 1 - 2 drops per ten kilos of body weight. Every time the fever comes back the new dose should be applied. This should be repeated until no fever will appear for at least 4 weeks. Later, the iodine tincture should be applied every 4 weeks until there won't be any fever after the application.
Chapter 6 is about the treatment of the weak and handicapped kids.
He says that iodine tincture should be applied in one dose every 4 weeks according to the previously mentioned protocol until the application will stop to cause fever.
Chapter 7 is about sore throat treatment.
He advises preparing a mixture of 4 drops of glycerine and 1 drop of normal iodine tincture. Patients should spread the mixture on their throats using a brush and avoid swallowing for 3 minutes. The procedure should be repeated until the sore throat will be cured.
The pain should disappear after 1 - 4 applications.
In chapter 8 he says that iodine tincture is effective in other conditions as well. He mentions stomach problems and women problems but says that he has too little experimental material in that matter to write more.
Chapter 9 is about the most interesting examples of recoveries.
Chapter 10 is about animal treatment.
Chapter 11 consists of closing remarks.
He says that he tried to stick with facts and explains why he didn't mention any of the patient's or doctor's names. He encourages to try the protocol but also points out that the outcome can be positive only when the experimenter familiarizes oneself with the content of this booklet and strictly adheres to the protocol. Not only in regard to iodine but also other recommendations.
Hello. First of all, thank you for having this forum with all its topics. Thanks to Laura, Gaby and all the many people from whom I can learn so much. Especially about iodine I have a question.
I have read a lot in this forum and about iodine and I thank you for all this valuable information and book tips. Thank you thank you thank you. I have only a short experience with iodine and will gladly share my future iodine here. The first week I took only 12.6 mg iodine, together with all co-factors and salt water. Then I dosed higher for 3 days, to 120mg, and tolerated it very well. The liver and gall bladder detoxify significantly, but with Taraxacum and Alphaliponic acid I can support this well. No problems otherwise. Feel very well. I would like to take the 12.5 mg daily and - as a push once a week - dose higher, to 400 mg. That would be 64 drops of Lugolsch solution, i.e. 16 glasses of Lugolsch water plus the additional recommended 48 glasses of water without iodine. I cannot drink that much. I'm a little bit sensitive in my stomach. I'm not very good with liposomal vitamin C either. I don't have such a good stomach acid, rather a little too little.You could still order Ioderal 50, but they are really gigantic and I have a hard time swallowing and 8 of these tablets are hard on my stomach. Yes, I want to take this and if necessary I will go through with it.
But I ask you now: How do you take these higher doses? Do you have any tips or tricks?
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I have read a lot in this forum and about iodine and I thank you for all this valuable information and book tips. Thank you thank you thank you. I have only a short experience with iodine and will gladly share my future iodine here. The first week I took only 12.6 mg iodine, together with all co-factors and salt water. Then I dosed higher for 3 days, to 120mg, and tolerated it very well. The liver and gall bladder detoxify significantly, but with Taraxacum and Alphaliponic acid I can support this well. No problems otherwise. Feel very well. I would like to take the 12.5 mg daily and - as a push once a week - dose higher, to 400 mg. That would be 64 drops of Lugolsch solution, i.e. 16 glasses of Lugolsch water plus the additional recommended 48 glasses of water without iodine. I cannot drink that much. I'm a little bit sensitive in my stomach. I'm not very good with liposomal vitamin C either. I don't have such a good stomach acid, rather a little too little.You could still order Ioderal 50, but they are really gigantic and I have a hard time swallowing and 8 of these tablets are hard on my stomach. Yes, I want to take this and if necessary I will go through with it.
But I ask you now: How do you take these higher doses? Do you have any tips or tricks?
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TheTodd
Jedi Council Member
16, 48 glasses of water with/without iodine? Is that a typo? Did you mean drops?
I can tolerate 100 mg of Lugols (5%, 16 drops) in one glass of water.
I took 1 gram (1000 mg) per day in four doses of 250 mg for a period of 2-3 weeks. I don't have a sensitive stomach but I can't drink such huge doses only with water - I took them mixed with full fat milk, ~1 dcl/dose. But, milk is a not an option for a lot of people, so that's a limited solution. Lugols is easier on the stomach if you eat a fatty meal before, but it can be hard on the throat.
I know some people use it transdermaly - maybe try rubbing it on the skin of arms, legs and belly.
I don't think you should go to such higher doses for general health @Stern . And if you have a particular health issue that makes you think these doses are necessary, I wouldn't recommend doing so without a knowledgeable practitioner that can guide you through it with the proper tests and follow ups.
If you read the whole thread, you'll see that those doses weren't recommended at all (unless I've missed it), and in fact, the standard recommendation is to go slowly and increase the doses little by little because people react to it differently depending on their current health status and several other factors.
Is there a particular reason you want to take 400mg of Iodine?
If you read the whole thread, you'll see that those doses weren't recommended at all (unless I've missed it), and in fact, the standard recommendation is to go slowly and increase the doses little by little because people react to it differently depending on their current health status and several other factors.
Is there a particular reason you want to take 400mg of Iodine?
TheTodd
Jedi Council Member
Stern is planing on taking 12.5 mg and to "pulse dose", something that is even recommended.
I must add, that we don't have information that very high doses (over 700 mg) cause problems. People often experimented on smaller doses (below 500 mg) and reported problems.
My experiment with high doses of Lugols is not over yet because I stopped briefly because of a blood donation, but it went like this:
- started with 100 mg and within 20 days reached to 1 gram (1000 mg);
- was on 4x250=1000 mg for 16 days (drank it with milk);
- discomforts: stomach bloating (salt loading really helped), very mild allergy symptoms, running nose, pimples on back and butt and scalp;
- benefits: overall I felt better than on low doses - mysterious left quadriceps inflamation/pain went away, a little better cognitive performace, super easy waking up in the morning, slept a little better, better selfcontrol, more motivation;
- I stopped suddenly to 12 mg, felt tired for 2 days and then superpowered for 3 days, now I feel probably same as I did before high doses.
Have in mind, that I have been taking iodine 4 years before this high doses experiment, religiously!
I plan to return to hight dose experiment and report back.
nature
Dagobah Resident
Hi Stern and wellcome to the forum! It is customary for newbies to introduce themselves in the dedicated section
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Don't forget to check out Tips and advice for Newbies and the Forum Guidelines, if not yet done.
You might also want to read through the Diet and Health and EE-Breathing Program threads as well as the Recommended books: List and Guide. You also might be interested in the Knowledge and Being video made by Laura. It serves as an introduction to some of the concepts discussed here on the forum.
Note that there are some "off limits" areas to the forum that are restricted to all but active forum participants, and we ask you to please keep the noise down. You will also not be able to edit or delete your posts until you reach a minimum of 50 posts. In that respect, it pays to use the "Preview" button prior to posting your message so that you can see how your post will look to others.
Finally, there is so much information on this forum that before beginning a new thread or asking a question on a subject, it is recommended to use either the quick search function at the top of the page or the more advanced search function on the menu function.
Please note that on each section of the forum, you will see a sticky topic at the beginning of the list of topics. This sticky topic called "Important threads - Name of the section of the forum" contains all the important threads that should be read by all members.
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I had low stomach acid problems until I started taking Allithiamine at 100mg. Thiamine deficiency will cause this and other digestion symptoms as well as worsen food reactions. It needs to be taken with thiamine cofactors, and for stomach acid production it is important to take it with zinc. Read this thread: Thiamine (Vitamin B1) - A common deficiency in disorders of energy metabolism, cardiovascular and nervous system dysfunction . If this is your problem then you will probably find the thiamine helps in other ways as well.
Dear Yas.
Thank you. You're right, of course, and everyone should think first. Every body is different and it is important to take care of yourself. I have informed myself well and really read the complete iodine forum and would like to destroy inflammation foci and detoxify bromide with the weekly push dose. And it seems to be working.
Thank you. You're right, of course, and everyone should think first. Every body is different and it is important to take care of yourself. I have informed myself well and really read the complete iodine forum and would like to destroy inflammation foci and detoxify bromide with the weekly push dose. And it seems to be working.
