Iodine and Potassium Iodide

[Lilou]

I have been taking 12.5mg of Lugol's for 20 days. Other than some minor reactions, everything had been going well - until yesterday morning. Shortly after getting up, I felt some heart palpitations. I drank my usual dose of salt water followed by 12.5mg of Lugol's. I felt ok and then went to work. I started feeling weird again, so took my pulse. My resting heart rate was 119!! I drank some water, used the restroom, then retook it. It was down to 90. This morning it is still 90 - fairly high for resting rate.

Maybe this is an indication of hyperthyroid action? Any advises are much appreciated. I have not taken any Lugol's today and thought maybe I should skip it or lower the dose? My blood pressure cuff is broken, so I'll have go by my mom's to use hers. Fingers crossed it isn't elevated as well.

 

[Gaby]

So far studies have only been performed on mice.

NAC is one of the most useful and widely used supplements. You would expect something would have happened by now in humans. I went to the original study, which is here:

_http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1952618/

It says: "the dose per weight was approximately 40-fold higher and the exposure continuous." [than human doses]

It sounds like physiological nitpicking. It doesn't raise any red flags, specially when compared to the adverse effects associated with Big Pharma's drugs that people take on a daily basis and get over the counter.

My 2 cents!

 

[Gaby]

My resting heart rate was 119!! I drank some water, used the restroom, then retook it. It was down to 90. This morning it is still 90 - fairly high for resting rate.

Interesting how it lowered after water and using the restroom. I would stop until resting heart rate is in your normal range, then go with the lowest dose and stay there for a good one week or more while you continue with hydration and the cofactors, monitoring how things go.

I don't think it is hyperthyroid problems (i.e. autonomous nodule), otherwise you would have had trouble much earlier. But in case of doubt, I would check the thyroid function.

I think is related with the detox process.

My 2 cents!

 

[Gaby]

I was in the pharmacy of my small town recently and they only sell topical iodine but the ingredients list only iodine and potassium iodide. Would this be safe to injest and if no then why not?

EDIT: Also would topical iodine be absorbed into the body? Is this an efficient way of using iodine?

People who have specific problems like breast or ovarian cysts use it topically in addition to the oral use. People mix it with coconut oil or other fat in order to decrease burning. Apparently, it has very good results according to some testimonials.

If the ingredients specify "iodine and potassium iodide", then it is really a lugol solution. The bottle should list the percentage of the solution.

Sometimes they add alcohol and/or glycerin when it is for topical use.

 

[Lilou]

My resting heart rate was 119!! I drank some water, used the restroom, then retook it. It was down to 90. This morning it is still 90 - fairly high for resting rate.

Interesting how it lowered after water and using the restroom. I would stop until resting heart rate is in your normal range, then go with the lowest dose and stay there for a good one week or more while you continue with hydration and the cofactors, monitoring how things go.

I don't think it is hyperthyroid problems (i.e. autonomous nodule), otherwise you would have had trouble much earlier. But in case of doubt, I would check the thyroid function.

I think is related with the detox process.

My 2 cents!

Thanks, Gaby. I will do just that and stop Lugol's till heart rate stabilizes. I think you are right, it is not hyperthyroid problems, as I had no symptoms of that before. In fact, I was lethargic and very sluggish prior to starting the Lugol's.

I thought perhaps it was more related to imbalance of minerals. I took some Potassium last night, along with the magnesium. Maybe too much salt and not enough Mg and K? I had ran out of Mg and K some time ago, and just started supplementing again about 2 weeks ago. It could be detox too, but I am leaning more toward mineral imbalance and not enough water. Hopefully it passes quickly. Depending on how it goes, I may make an appointment with Dr. Brownstein and have him check my hormones as well. I recently became menopausal. Ugh!

 

[Mark]

Hey Gang, I was thinking of making my own Lugol's - has anyone attempted that yet? I found KI crystals on amazon, 1lb for $100... but I can't seem to find iodine crystals. Anyone have a suggested supplier?

We used these two products and made our own:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NAD4DSY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013Q1Y514?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

Alternatively also available on eBay:

This person ships sssssssssslow - took them a week to get the package to their post office even though the ad claims that the product ships within a day of receiving payment ( I2 - iodine crystals )

http://www.ebay.com/sch/the_full_orchestra/m.html

This person ships fast ( I2 - iodine prills )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331556247799

And this person ships fast ( KI - potassium iodide ) :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191592357225

Bottles, 30ml ( 1oz ) - ships fast:

www.ebay.com/itm/221849939379

Each of those sellers offers various sizes.

 

[Z...]

I think even taking salt in the morning will trigger some detox.
I still haven't started taking Iodine since there were funny circumstances with my order and shipment ( long story) but I started taking about a half of teaspoon of Himalayan salt every morning upon waking together with about a gram of ascorbic acid about 10 days ago. In addition to very frequent urination I have mild headaches for last few days and this is for me very unusual.

 

[Jacques]

My resting heart rate was 119!! I drank some water, used the restroom, then retook it. It was down to 90. This morning it is still 90 - fairly high for resting rate.

Interesting how it lowered after water and using the restroom. I would stop until resting heart rate is in your normal range, then go with the lowest dose and stay there for a good one week or more while you continue with hydration and the cofactors, monitoring how things go.

I don't think it is hyperthyroid problems (i.e. autonomous nodule), otherwise you would have had trouble much earlier. But in case of doubt, I would check the thyroid function.

I think is related with the detox process.

My 2 cents!

Thanks, Gaby. I will do just that and stop Lugol's till heart rate stabilizes. I think you are right, it is not hyperthyroid problems, as I had no symptoms of that before. In fact, I was lethargic and very sluggish prior to starting the Lugol's.

I thought perhaps it was more related to imbalance of minerals. I took some Potassium last night, along with the magnesium. Maybe too much salt and not enough Mg and K? I had ran out of Mg and K some time ago, and just started supplementing again about 2 weeks ago. It could be detox too, but I am leaning more toward mineral imbalance and not enough water. Hopefully it passes quickly. Depending on how it goes, I may make an appointment with Dr. Brownstein and have him check my hormones as well. I recently became menopausal. Ugh!

Could be that. I lowered my intake of salt from 1/2 teaspoon to 1/4 teaspoon and my problem of high pressure was solved.

 

[Z...]

Could be that. I lowered my intake of salt from 1/2 teaspoon to 1/4 teaspoon and my problem of high pressure was solved.

Since I went very low carb my blood pressure has been very low. Haven t been measuring but since I am taking salt in the morning I am feeling very energized so I am guessing it went up now. Today I also registered very mild palpitations - only for short while so perhaps I should lower it from 1/2 to 1/4 as well.

 

[monotonic]

Have been taking Lugol's 2% (6-8 dropsX2,5mg 3 times a day) for four days followed with niacin and Vit C in between. Yesterday after evening intake 3 "flashe" in a hour occured. Don't know how to describe it in English, but it's something between feeling you feel after sharp getting up and blur in the head. One "flash" took 3-6 seconds approximately and no further consequences, all the rest is good.

I think it might be caused by the lack of salt and absence of cofactors (riboflavin\selen). Don't know if it was exactly Herx reaction or wrong approach, but it seems I should wait for acquiring all the stuff I need for protocol. Awaiting them learn Brownstein further.

I haven't gotten through this thread but I want to point out that this sounds like "postural orthostatic dysregulation". That means your heart has trouble reacting to keep your blood pressure high enough when you stand up. This has some important implications to your health. For one, blood flow through the liver is much reduced to about 1/3rd (IIRC) except when lying down. For another, it prevents you from sweating, and can cause you to be chronically overheated. I wish I could find the reference, but my bookmarks failed me.

I find that 1/2tsp of Celtic sea salt (Real salt doesn't work very well) helps to allow me to sweat and not get dizzy when I stand up.

 

[Lilou]

My pulse is starting to return to more normal resting levels. It is currently 78. I took a Magnesium bath, took some more potassium and a B complex. I also drank about 3 tall glasses of water (1 with 2g Vit C). I haven't taken any salt or selenium or my blood pressure, so I'm guessing I should take it easy on the salt water for now.

I looked around the net for info on tachycardia and iodine supplementation, the only thing I found that may be useful is I might want to add Boron. Some suggested taurine, but they had an A-Fib diagnosis, so not sure it is relevant. For now, I'll take a two day break and restart Sunday at 5mg and less salt.

 

[kujo]

Reporting here:

I've slowly increased my dose, this morning I've bumped up to 3 drops of 5% lugols, after spending the last week with 2 drops. In my last post I mentioned a cyst that had formed behind my right ear, that had shrunk in size, a few days later it seemed to have shrank completely. A couple of days after that it began to fill again, then a small cyst began to surface on my cheek to the right of my nose, and also one on the right side of my chest. I wondered if the iodine had helped to shrink the cyst behind the ear initially, but now I am wondering if it's stirring some stuff up inside my body. I've dabbed the same Lugol's solution on to the cysts, and once again they seem to be receding.

Something also that came to mind, that may be the culprit to this right-sidedness, I had pain through the right side of my neck down to my shoulder. I made an appointment with my chiropractor last Monday where he had utilized a technique that was new for me (laying on my back instead of seated or belly down). I woke up the next morning with very limited movement and strong radiating pain throughout that area. I had a second adjustment 3 days later (last Friday) with HUGE relief and return to movement. My guess is the inflammation in the neck was causing issues with the lymphatic system, but because I've been taking supplemental iodine for nearly three weeks it's hard to be certain what the real cause is. Was an infection stirred up?

I've increase my water intake, and have been consuming turmeric the last few days in teas and in a soup in an effort to support the liver, help with inflammation, and cleanse the blood.

Currently, I plan to continue with 3 drops for the next week, and will continue to add a drop each week, checking on symptoms until I can do an iodine loading test to have an idea of where I'm at.

 

[Laura]

My pulse is starting to return to more normal resting levels. It is currently 78. I took a Magnesium bath, took some more potassium and a B complex. I also drank about 3 tall glasses of water (1 with 2g Vit C). I haven't taken any salt or selenium or my blood pressure, so I'm guessing I should take it easy on the salt water for now.

I looked around the net for info on tachycardia and iodine supplementation, the only thing I found that may be useful is I might want to add Boron. Some suggested taurine, but they had an A-Fib diagnosis, so not sure it is relevant. For now, I'll take a two day break and restart Sunday at 5mg and less salt.

Well, as I mentioned, I had leg cramps, fast heart, and the twitching eyelid at one point, so I know what always fixes that: potassium and other minerals. I took a 32.8 mg KI and some multi minerals and was right as rain within hours. So, that's what I do now, started adding the minerals a couple times a week. But, I take boron every day and take the 32.8 mg KI and 2 drops of 12% lugols per day. That seems to be about right. I'm detoxing slowly.

 

[Beau]

I've increase my water intake, and have been consuming turmeric the last few days in teas and in a soup in an effort to support the liver, help with inflammation, and cleanse the blood.

Currently, I plan to continue with 3 drops for the next week, and will continue to add a drop each week, checking on symptoms until I can do an iodine loading test to have an idea of where I'm at.

Sorry if I missed it, but are you also taking salted water, Vitamin C, and the cofactors with the iodine?

 

[kujo]

I've increase my water intake, and have been consuming turmeric the last few days in teas and in a soup in an effort to support the liver, help with inflammation, and cleanse the blood.

Currently, I plan to continue with 3 drops for the next week, and will continue to add a drop each week, checking on symptoms until I can do an iodine loading test to have an idea of where I'm at.

Sorry if I missed it, but are you also taking salted water, Vitamin C, and the cofactors with the iodine?

Yes, salted water, a gram of Vitamin C, and roughly 400mg Magnesium daily. No other cofactors.