Ketogenic Diet - Powerful Dietary Strategy for Certain Conditions

[Laura]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

A possible additional reason for increasing salt in the diet:

A solution to reducing inflammation
Morwenna Grills
University of Manchester
Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:23 CDT
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/251505-A-solution-to-reducing-inflammation

Research carried out at The University of Manchester has found further evidence that a simple solution, which is already used in IV drips, is an effective treatment for reducing inflammation.

The researchers also identified that hypertonic solution, which is a solution with an elevated concentration of salt, can ease inflammation purely through bathing in it - proving the Victorians were right to visit spa towns to "take the waters" for ailments like rheumatoid arthritis.

The research team, led by Dr Pablo Pelegrin, was investigating how cell swelling can control inflammation; the immune system's first response to injury or infection.

They discovered that white blood cells swell in a similar way to how tissue swells around a wound. The team then went on to look at what causes the swelling.

The researchers injected solutions with low ions into mice. They found that these solutions acted as a danger signal, causing cells to swell. The swelling then activates a group of proteins called NLRP3 which then release inflammatory mediators. These activate neighbouring cells to increase inflammation.

However, when a hypertonic solution was administered to the mouse it drew the water out of the cells shrinking them back to their original size. This in turn deactivated the signal for inflammation.

Dr Pelegrin's research provides further evidence for the use of hypertonic fluid therapy for the reduction of inflammation in the brain, a treatment that can reduce the amount of damage caused by illnesses such as stroke and epilepsy. His team has been able to show for the first time why the solution works at a molecular level.

The team also looked at the benefits of hypertonic solutions when used outside of the body. They soaked bandages in the solution before using them on the legs of mice. They also tested bathing the inflamed area in a hypertonic solution and in both cases the inflammation was reduced.

It appears the hypertonic solution produces an osmotic gradient through the skin, which explains why hot springs, which have a hypertonic make up, can ease the pain of conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis.

Vincent Compan worked with Dr Pelegrin on this research in the Faculty of Life Sciences. He says: "This research opens up exciting opportunities for the use of hypertonic solution as a treatment for inflammatory illnesses such as arthritis. What we've identified has the potential to be used to help so many patients."

Another aspect of the team's research identified that the signalling process to activate inflammation is one of the oldest evolutionary processes. The researchers found that the same mechanism of cell swelling causes NLRP3 inflammasome activation in fish as well as mammals. This means it is one of oldest responses in the body leading to inflammation.

The research has recently been published in the journal Immunity.

 

[Chu]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

I used all those things when I was first adapting, last summer. That was a different "gurgle," higher up. The symptoms now seem to be coming from my colon.

Prolly 'cause you're not at zero. You really do have to go zero for a few weeks to kill the buggers off and then you have to be darned careful not to re-introduce them for awhile. And I can tell you, if you give them a lettuce leaf once a day, they will hang on...

I couldn't agree more, Megan. What you describe seems to be a yo-yo effect, because you don't stick to 0 carbs. I tell you, after 5 weeks of not even touching a leaf of lettuce, I ate some for a few days, and I started being bloated again, and had a few cramps. And went to the bathroom much more. I can tell it really affects me, even though it's such a small amount of carbs/fiber.

Exercising can help you too, for sure. IMO, you need to be patient and stick to NO carbs at all for a while. I hope it helps you.

 

[Laura]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

I dunno about this article. It's kind of a backhanded way of saying "Yeah, humans evolved on protein/animal fats but not to worry, you can eat veggies now." Maybe we should look into this study which seems highly suspicious to me. The next to last paragraph reveals the catch, I think. You can eat veggies, but they still aren't good for you.

180,000-Year-Old Mutation Allowed Humans to Become Vegetarians and Move Out of Africa
Christine Hsu
Medical Daily
Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:28 CDT
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/251512-180-000-Year-Old-Mutation-Allowed-Humans-to-Become-Vegetarians-and-Move-Out-of-Africa

Early humans were able to move from Africa after a single genetic mutation allowed them to become vegetarians, scientists claim.

The switch, which allowed humans to process vegetables, meant that humans were able to move away from water sources and spread across the continent.

A team of geneticists compared DNA sequences from a variety of people around the world to see how different populations relate to one another and when they have gone their separate ways. The scientists found that a key genetic variant gave humans the ability to convert fats from plants into essential nutrients for the brain.

The study, published in the journal Public Library of Science (PLOS), suggests that the gene mutation would have allowed Homo sapiens to leave the bodies of water in central Africa where they ate fish.

A team of scientists from the Wake Forest Baptist Medical Centre in North Carolina, the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore and the University of Washington School of Medicine, Seattle analyzed the genes of 1,092 individuals representing 15 different human populations that were sequenced as part of the 1000 Genome Project and 1,043 individuals from 52 populations from the Human Genome Diversity Panel database.

Homo sapiens first appeared 180,000 years ago but stayed around bodies of water in central Africa for almost 100,000 years. Researchers explained that the location was critical because it had a ready supply of fish and shellfish that provided the necessary fatty acid Docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) necessary for brain development.

"This may have kept early humans tethered to the water in central Africa where there was a constant food source of DHA," study author Doctor Floyd Chilton, professor of physiology and pharmacology and director of the Centre for Botanical Lipids and Inflammatory Disease Prevention at Wake Forest Baptist, said in a statement.

"There has been considerable debate on how early humans were able to obtain sufficient DHA necessary to maintain brain size and complexity. It's amazing to think we may have uncovered the region of genetic variation that arose about the time that early humans moved out of this central region in what has been called the 'great expansion,'" he added.

The change meant that humans no longer had to rely on just one food source, fish, for brain growth and development.

Lead researcher Joshua Akey of the University of Washington said that the conversion was particularly important because the genetic variation happened before there was organized hunting and fishing, which could have provided more reliable sources of necessary fats. "The power of genetics continually impresses me, and I find it remarkable that we can make inferences about things that happened tens of thousands of years ago by studying patterns of genetic variation that exist in contemporary populations," he added.

In 2011, researchers found that people of African descent have a significantly higher frequency of the gene that converts plant-based fatty acids to polyunsaturated fat. This gene causes inflammation, which may be why African Americans have higher rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, stroke, coronary heart disease and certain types of cancer.

"The current observation provides another important clue as to why diverse racial and ethnic populations likely respond differently to the modern western diet," Chilton said.

 

[Eboard10]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

I used all those things when I was first adapting, last summer. That was a different "gurgle," higher up. The symptoms now seem to be coming from my colon.

Prolly 'cause you're not at zero. You really do have to go zero for a few weeks to kill the buggers off and then you have to be darned careful not to re-introduce them for awhile. And I can tell you, if you give them a lettuce leaf once a day, they will hang on...

I couldn't agree more, Megan. What you describe seems to be a yo-yo effect, because you don't stick to 0 carbs. I tell you, after 5 weeks of not even touching a leaf of lettuce, I ate some for a few days, and I started being bloated again, and had a few cramps. And went to the bathroom much more. I can tell it really affects me, even though it's such a small amount of carbs/fiber.

Exercising can help you too, for sure. IMO, you need to be patient and stick to NO carbs at all for a while. I hope it helps you.

Megan, I have to agree with Laura and Ailén here. I got the same impression when reading your comments. I think it wouldn't hurt if you tried going off carbs completely at least for a few weeks. I had a similar experience to Ailén's, apart from the cramps.

 

[treesparrow]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

About 3 weeks ago I reduced my low carb intake to almost nothing. I still however take a small amount - the coconut milk I add to my green tea. I'm now wondering if I should even cut this out? I've also started making bone broth, cooking for about 4 hours although I'm tending to get a watery product, to which I add a large dollop of organic lard and some Himalayan pink salt.

My supplements at this point are 6 codliver oil and 6 fish oil capsules a days - each a 1000 milligrams (as well as magnesium and a cup of salted water). Would this amount of fish oils count as part of the fat intake allowance? I also take a large dosage of vit d as we have had a damp summer in this part of the UK little continuous sunshine.

I suffer from ankylosing spondylitis (thank god for the spell checker) with associated osteoporosis and fusion of the vertebra with restricted movement of head ,neck and torso with arthritis in other joints and although I've gained some movement in some of my knuckles, I've yet to to seen any improvement in my back since starting the KD about 18 moths ago. Perhaps with zero carbs my situation will improve. I sometimes think that the best I can hope for is that my condition stabilizes and does not further deteriorate.

The only resist training am able do to is moderate distance cycling with occasional short bursts of exertion when climbing hills . I not sure though if this counts though.

I forgot to mention that since having near zero carbs my energy levels seem to fluctuate, I'm also sometimes unable to concentrate, sometimes irritable,slightly dizzy and generally fatigued. But what the hell I've had far worse times in the past on a veggie diet. I will persist.

 

[hesperides]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

Quote from Laura

The researchers also identified that hypertonic solution, which is a solution with an elevated concentration of salt, can ease inflammation purely through bathing in it - proving the Victorians were right to visit spa towns to "take the waters" for ailments like rheumatoid arthritis.

I know a healer I´ve been introduced to many years ago, who just takes any vital organs out of the body into his hands after making a cut through the skin with a current knife or anything else like a key if there is none available. He took one of my husband´s testicles in his hand and thoroughly extirpated a vein with a tweezers right before my eyes, while my husband just laid fully conscient on the bed without any hint of discomfort. What he recommends in case of arthrose/rheumatoid arthritis is taking a bath at NIGHT because pores open at that time, to get the full effect of a handful iodide salt previously poured into the water, plus boiled water poured in it in which a stalactite (preferred over stalagmite, not sure why, maybe because of more calcium and minerals content) must have boiled at the highest possible heat for at least half an hour. Now he told me people usually don´t hang on sticking to this process for much time as they get tired of it, so he is now gathering himself some herbs from the land and prepairing a cream out of them instead. I´ll ask him which herbs he uses; one thing I know is it´s a large process and that he uses dew to moist the cream and for healing purpose. I will report here in case there´s something interesting to learn about.

 

[maryjk_99]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

A possible additional reason for increasing salt in the diet:

A solution to reducing inflammation

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/251505-A-solution-to-reducing-inflammation

Research carried out at The University of Manchester has found further evidence that a simple solution, which is already used in IV drips, is an effective treatment for reducing inflammation.

The researchers also identified that hypertonic solution, which is a solution with an elevated concentration of salt, can ease inflammation purely through bathing in it - proving the Victorians were right to visit spa towns to "take the waters" for ailments like rheumatoid arthritis.

The research team, led by Dr Pablo Pelegrin, was investigating how cell swelling can control inflammation; the immune system's first response to injury or infection.

They discovered that white blood cells swell in a similar way to how tissue swells around a wound. The team then went on to look at what causes the swelling.

When I saw the article on sott yesterday, I went online to search for mineral bath salts. My father in law, who had a quintuple bypass about 2 1/2 years ago (he's 79 now) also suffers terribly from arthritis in his knees. Of course he's on statins and blood thinners (which he hates taking because they cause his leg pain to become worse plus they cause much discomfort in his colon). I've talked with him and given him copies of articles regarding cholesterol, statins, meat fats, gluten etc. but he is afraid of not eating as his doctors recommend.

My question is regarding the bath salts. On this page _http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003V5574U/ref=s9_simh_gw_p194_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=1EM7M9XWYHYTDNVX2H2C&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470939291&pf_rd_i=507846
there's a line which reads:

WARNING: While brine baths have a positive effect on many ailments, they are also demanding on your circulatory system. If you suffer from weak or poor heart circulation, always consult your doctor first.by Dr Joseph Mercola

His cartoroid arteries on both sides are nearly completely blocked, so when I read the above, I put away the idea of the bath salts.

Just wanted to put this out there in case any readers here have a heart or circulatory condition.

 

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

About 3 weeks ago I reduced my low carb intake to almost nothing. I still however take a small amount - the coconut milk I add to my green tea. I'm now wondering if I should even cut this out? I've also started making bone broth, cooking for about 4 hours although I'm tending to get a watery product, to which I add a large dollop of organic lard and some Himalayan pink salt.

My supplements at this point are 6 codliver oil and 6 fish oil capsules a days - each a 1000 milligrams (as well as magnesium and a cup of salted water). Would this amount of fish oils count as part of the fat intake allowance? I also take a large dosage of vit d as we have had a damp summer in this part of the UK little continuous sunshine.

I suffer from ankylosing spondylitis (thank god for the spell checker) with associated osteoporosis and fusion of the vertebra with restricted movement of head ,neck and torso with arthritis in other joints and although I've gained some movement in some of my knuckles, I've yet to to seen any improvement in my back since starting the KD about 18 moths ago. Perhaps with zero carbs my situation will improve. I sometimes think that the best I can hope for is that my condition stabilizes and does not further deteriorate.

The only resist training am able do to is moderate distance cycling with occasional short bursts of exertion when climbing hills . I not sure though if this counts though.

I forgot to mention that since having near zero carbs my energy levels seem to fluctuate, I'm also sometimes unable to concentrate, sometimes irritable,slightly dizzy and generally fatigued. But what the hell I've had far worse times in the past on a veggie diet. I will persist.

I cook my bones on low heat for 16-24 hours, that way you can get the gelatin and nutritions from bones better. Here's a page about making bone broth:
http://www.traditional-foods.com/bone-broth/

I've been experimenting with butter tea, mixing lard with different teas, like rooibos. That could be a better choise for the coconut milk you're using.
I usually use 1 tsp of fish oil on days i'm not eating any seafood and use 5000IU vitamin D3 (make sure you have D3 instead of D2) because there's not much of sunlight in Finland during autumn and winter. So if you can't get enough vitamin D from sun or food, it could be good to get it as a supplement. Optimal vitamin D serum levels should be between 50-80 ng/mL (125-200 nmol/L). It's also important to take care of vitamin K2 because it directs the calcium into skeleton (vit D improves the absorption of calcium), osit.

Maybe you're still going the keto-adaptation phase so the dizzy and fatique could be because of that? I think distance cycling is more like aerobic and propably gym exercise would be better but it all depends on your condition, that what you can do.

 

[Laura]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

About 3 weeks ago I reduced my low carb intake to almost nothing. I still however take a small amount - the coconut milk I add to my green tea. I'm now wondering if I should even cut this out?

I would cut it out for a test period. Don't you like black tea? It's somewhat anti-inflammatory and it is quite good with about 1/4 tsp xylitol to just take the edge of the bitterness off.

I've also started making bone broth, cooking for about 4 hours although I'm tending to get a watery product, to which I add a large dollop of organic lard and some Himalayan pink salt.

Four hours would be okay in a pressure cooker, but in a regular pot or crock pot, should cook all day at the least.

My supplements at this point are 6 codliver oil and 6 fish oil capsules a days - each a 1000 milligrams (as well as magnesium and a cup of salted water). Would this amount of fish oils count as part of the fat intake allowance?

It's not so much fat, but it will count some. I would try reducing to just the three fish oil for a bit and see how that goes.

I also take a large dosage of vit d as we have had a damp summer in this part of the UK little continuous sunshine.

What I learned in my experiment with Vit D3 was that it increased my pain a lot. I'm thinking you might back off of this too. If you read the paper we linked to earlier in this thread, it suggests strongly that, even though some supplements might help in one way or another, they can also tip the system in such a way that some functions benefit to the detriment of others. Best to try, as close as possible, to let the body figure out what it needs.

I suffer from ankylosing spondylitis (thank god for the spell checker) with associated osteoporosis and fusion of the vertebra with restricted movement of head ,neck and torso with arthritis in other joints and although I've gained some movement in some of my knuckles, I've yet to to seen any improvement in my back since starting the KD about 18 moths ago. Perhaps with zero carbs my situation will improve. I sometimes think that the best I can hope for is that my condition stabilizes and does not further deteriorate.

Maybe that is the most you can hope for, but you never know. It can take awhile for the wild mtDNA to proliferate once you get the process started.

The only resist training am able do to is moderate distance cycling with occasional short bursts of exertion when climbing hills . I not sure though if this counts though.

I'm not sure either. Since the point is to sort of isolate a muscle group and push it to its limits and maybe a little beyond in order to slightly injure it so as to trigger the mtDNA in peripheral muscle fibers, maybe you could just get some hand weights and do your arms while sitting?

I forgot to mention that since having near zero carbs my energy levels seem to fluctuate, I'm also sometimes unable to concentrate, sometimes irritable,slightly dizzy and generally fatigued. But what the hell I've had far worse times in the past on a veggie diet. I will persist.

If you are going to take any supplements at all beyond some fish oil, it should be a small bit of potassium and magnesium. The energy fluctuations seem to be related to the balance of protein and fat. Read back carefully about the protein restriction, that you measure the amount per day according to body weight, and then have plenty of fat for the fuel part.

 

[Goemon_]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

I am at the end of the 4th week on the KD.

At some point I was very low on energy and I have stop the day in / day out thing. I'm now eating three meals a day again, decreasing the amount of protein and fat through the day.

I'm generaly eating 150 g of cooked meat + 150g of added fat + 3 bowls of bone broth (that must be 0,8g/kg of protein for my actual 69 kg of body weight). Then sometime I have a big tablespoon or two of liver's pâté.

The diarrhea are gone now, and this morning I had one big stool (not has big has when on High carb).

I have had scratching arround the sex till the beginning of the PD, they had improved, but was still there. Till the beginning of the KD there is more of them and tthey spread to the thigh, the back and the bottom.

The brain dizziness has diminish.

I have begin the HIIT with bands : 20/25 minutes every other day.

I had also a little bit of the sniffing thing reported by others. I was used to have them before being on the PD, they were stronger at this time (probably some different issue).

I can't speak yet about rocketful thing. That is more like very low sometime and about normal the rest of the time. Also my backpain do a lot on my energy level, so I will see the difference when I wil have see my etiopath doctor in a week or so.

Good day, forgiveness, thank you

 

[MK Scarlett]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

To come back on the subject on the Lardo di Colonnata shared by Psyche here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28799.msg368309.html#msg368309 and as I had suggested we could try to make it by ourself, here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28799.msg368704.html#msg368704, I did it on yesterday and hereafter how I proceed:

I bought two big parts of lard to my butcher, cut one in two and let the other one entire, to see how work different sizes. It does not look really the same piece of pork than for the Lardo di Colonnata, I will try to get a similar one on the next time.

STEP 1
One of the big piece cut in 2:


STEP 2
Put big Celtic Sea Salt in a plate:


STEP 3
Put the piece of lard on the bed of salt:


STEP 4
Build as a sarcophagus of salt around the meat by compressing, and then cover it with a tissue, put in your refrigerator (or outside, winter is coming but it will be necessary to cover it of a kind of "compress" to prevent the insects from coming above):


STEP 5
Get out the piece of meat from Salt after less than 24 jours 24 HOURS (with pork too much time will give you a too salted piece of meat, with duck for example I let in the salt during two days - 48 hours), and then rinse it under some water and wipe with an absorbing paper sheet (note how the color already changed):


STEP 6
Rub the piece of meat with a personal composition of spices and herbs. For example, here I used some turmeric, ginger, a mixture of 5 berries (I am not sure about the spelling of this word...), and mixed Provence herbs:




These pieces are now put on a plate, with a "tissue" above and in the refrigerator for three weeks. So I will show you the result at this time, approximatively on October 15th.

Others:
I also made these at the end of July:

Duck tenderloin:


And Pork filet mignon, which is not enough fat as piece of pork, but it was my first one:


I hope it will help some of you here if maybe you did not know this technic to make itself saltings. ;)

Edit: Mistake on the hours of salting, thank you Oxajil here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28799.msg369776.html#msg369776
So I put in bold the two modifications.

 

[treesparrow]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

About 3 weeks ago I reduced my low carb intake to almost nothing. I still however take a small amount - the coconut milk I add to my green tea. I'm now wondering if I should even cut this out?

I would cut it out for a test period. Don't you like black tea? It's somewhat anti-inflammatory and it is quite good with about 1/4 tsp xylitol to just take the edge of the bitterness off.

I've also started making bone broth, cooking for about 4 hours although I'm tending to get a watery product, to which I add a large dollop of organic lard and some Himalayan pink salt.

Four hours would be okay in a pressure cooker, but in a regular pot or crock pot, should cook all day at the least.

My supplements at this point are 6 codliver oil and 6 fish oil capsules a days - each a 1000 milligrams (as well as magnesium and a cup of salted water). Would this amount of fish oils count as part of the fat intake allowance?

It's not so much fat, but it will count some. I would try reducing to just the three fish oil for a bit and see how that goes.

I also take a large dosage of vit d as we have had a damp summer in this part of the UK little continuous sunshine.

What I learned in my experiment with Vit D3 was that it increased my pain a lot. I'm thinking you might back off of this too. If you read the paper we linked to earlier in this thread, it suggests strongly that, even though some supplements might help in one way or another, they can also tip the system in such a way that some functions benefit to the detriment of others. Best to try, as close as possible, to let the body figure out what it needs.

I suffer from ankylosing spondylitis (thank god for the spell checker) with associated osteoporosis and fusion of the vertebra with restricted movement of head ,neck and torso with arthritis in other joints and although I've gained some movement in some of my knuckles, I've yet to to seen any improvement in my back since starting the KD about 18 moths ago. Perhaps with zero carbs my situation will improve. I sometimes think that the best I can hope for is that my condition stabilizes and does not further deteriorate.

Maybe that is the most you can hope for, but you never know. It can take awhile for the wild mtDNA to proliferate once you get the process started.

The only resist training am able do to is moderate distance cycling with occasional short bursts of exertion when climbing hills . I not sure though if this counts though.

I'm not sure either. Since the point is to sort of isolate a muscle group and push it to its limits and maybe a little beyond in order to slightly injure it so as to trigger the mtDNA in peripheral muscle fibers, maybe you could just get some hand weights and do your arms while sitting?

I forgot to mention that since having near zero carbs my energy levels seem to fluctuate, I'm also sometimes unable to concentrate, sometimes irritable,slightly dizzy and generally fatigued. But what the hell I've had far worse times in the past on a veggie diet. I will persist.

If you are going to take any supplements at all beyond some fish oil, it should be a small bit of potassium and magnesium. The energy fluctuations seem to be related to the balance of protein and fat. Read back carefully about the protein restriction, that you measure the amount per day according to body weight, and then have plenty of fat for the fuel part.

Many thanks, Laura for taking the time out and providing a fulsome reply. As you suggest I will change my tea, look into buying some training weights, reduce my fish oil, add potassium to my supplements and cease Vit D intake for now. Cheers once again :)

 

[Julius]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

[quote author=hesperides]
I know a healer I´ve been introduced to many years ago, who just takes any vital organs out of the body into his hands after making a cut through the skin with a current knife or anything else like a key if there is none available. He took one of my husband´s testicles in his hand and thoroughly extirpated a vein with a tweezers right before my eyes, while my husband just laid fully conscient on the bed without any hint of discomfort. What he recommends in case of arthrose/rheumatoid arthritis is taking a bath at NIGHT because pores open at that time, to get the full effect of a handful iodide salt previously poured into the water, plus boiled water poured in it in which a stalactite (preferred over stalagmite, not sure why, maybe because of more calcium and minerals content) must have boiled at the highest possible heat for at least half an hour. Now he told me people usually don´t hang on sticking to this process for much time as they get tired of it, so he is now gathering himself some herbs from the land and prepairing a cream out of them instead. I´ll ask him which herbs he uses; one thing I know is it´s a large process and that he uses dew to moist the cream and for healing purpose. I will report here in case there´s something interesting to learn about.
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[sebbe]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?


Thank you too for your reporting MK Scarlett.

 

[obyvatel]

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

I dunno about this article. It's kind of a backhanded way of saying "Yeah, humans evolved on protein/animal fats but not to worry, you can eat veggies now." Maybe we should look into this study which seems highly suspicious to me. The next to last paragraph reveals the catch, I think. You can eat veggies, but they still aren't good for you.

180,000-Year-Old Mutation Allowed Humans to Become Vegetarians and Move Out of Africa
Christine Hsu
Medical Daily
Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:28 CDT
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/251512-180-000-Year-Old-Mutation-Allowed-Humans-to-Become-Vegetarians-and-Move-Out-of-Africa

Early humans were able to move from Africa after a single genetic mutation allowed them to become vegetarians, scientists claim.

The switch, which allowed humans to process vegetables, meant that humans were able to move away from water sources and spread across the continent.

A team of geneticists compared DNA sequences from a variety of people around the world to see how different populations relate to one another and when they have gone their separate ways. The scientists found that a key genetic variant gave humans the ability to convert fats from plants into essential nutrients for the brain.

It could very well be an environment driven epigenetic adaptation. If normally available food sources dry up, the cells adapt to survive in the new conditions.

The study, published in the journal Public Library of Science (PLOS), suggests that the gene mutation would have allowed Homo sapiens to leave the bodies of water in central Africa where they ate fish.

A team of scientists from the Wake Forest Baptist Medical Centre in North Carolina, the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore and the University of Washington School of Medicine, Seattle analyzed the genes of 1,092 individuals representing 15 different human populations that were sequenced as part of the 1000 Genome Project and 1,043 individuals from 52 populations from the Human Genome Diversity Panel database.

Homo sapiens first appeared 180,000 years ago but stayed around bodies of water in central Africa for almost 100,000 years. Researchers explained that the location was critical because it had a ready supply of fish and shellfish that provided the necessary fatty acid Docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) necessary for brain development.

This brought to mind a comment by the C's made regarding the Aryans in the June 7, 1997 session where they mentioned that Aryans needed to consume meat but "pescadorial features substitute semi-adequately. ".

"This may have kept early humans tethered to the water in central Africa where there was a constant food source of DHA," study author Doctor Floyd Chilton, professor of physiology and pharmacology and director of the Centre for Botanical Lipids and Inflammatory Disease Prevention at Wake Forest Baptist, said in a statement.

"There has been considerable debate on how early humans were able to obtain sufficient DHA necessary to maintain brain size and complexity. It's amazing to think we may have uncovered the region of genetic variation that arose about the time that early humans moved out of this central region in what has been called the 'great expansion,'" he added.

The change meant that humans no longer had to rely on just one food source, fish, for brain growth and development.

Maybe they have it backwards; cataclysms could have removed normal food sources forcing survivors to emigrate and seek out new sources of food to subsist on. The genetics then got modified to adjust to the new reality.

Lead researcher Joshua Akey of the University of Washington said that the conversion was particularly important because the genetic variation happened before there was organized hunting and fishing, which could have provided more reliable sources of necessary fats. "The power of genetics continually impresses me, and I find it remarkable that we can make inferences about things that happened tens of thousands of years ago by studying patterns of genetic variation that exist in contemporary populations," he added.

How do they know that it happened before "organized hunting and fishing"?

In 2011, researchers found that people of African descent have a significantly higher frequency of the gene that converts plant-based fatty acids to polyunsaturated fat. This gene causes inflammation, which may be why African Americans have higher rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, stroke, coronary heart disease and certain types of cancer.

"The current observation provides another important clue as to why diverse racial and ethnic populations likely respond differently to the modern western diet," Chilton said.

So this gene which helps people convert plant based EFAs also causes cellular inflammation which is linked to be the root cause of all these diseases mentioned. Yet it is interpreted to be a desirable thing that allowed "the great expansion" to happen. The "great expansion" could simply have been people moving to survive in an environment which could no longer support their previous lifestyle - osit.