Recommended Reiki Master?
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Hi I have been reading the threads on reiki recently after re-reading The Wave book 2 and have become really interested in the topic. I thought it would supplement everything else I'm trying to do. I have messaged a few reiki teachers, and finally found one without Stein or Rand in her lineage.
From what I can see her website is the least new-agey I've found, offering apparently standard Reiki with traditional symbols- www.lynnehancher.couk, she was also open about her lineage which was comforting. I am just unsure as to how much Robertson distorted the teachings, it says on his bio that he created, raku kei reiki and tibetan reiki which from this thread I know is red flag. Below I have quoted what her lineage is.
Can anyone see anything I'm missing concerning her site/ lineage? I'm not in any rush to get things started and would probably book a session with her first to see if she has any ability as others have suggested here.
Can I ask, with EE and diet changes etc. do you guys still make use of reiki?
From what I can see her website is the least new-agey I've found, offering apparently standard Reiki with traditional symbols- www.lynnehancher.couk, she was also open about her lineage which was comforting. I am just unsure as to how much Robertson distorted the teachings, it says on his bio that he created, raku kei reiki and tibetan reiki which from this thread I know is red flag. Below I have quoted what her lineage is.
Can anyone see anything I'm missing concerning her site/ lineage? I'm not in any rush to get things started and would probably book a session with her first to see if she has any ability as others have suggested here.
Can I ask, with EE and diet changes etc. do you guys still make use of reiki?
I don't see anything too alarming with this person. It's a bit hard to say about the lineage, I would have to check most of those names one by one. The history she tells about Usui on her page is bogus, or at least, quite different from what I've learned. For example, there was no "Christ" or "hurting of his toe" aspects in the supposedly original Usui-saga. So, I don't know where she got that story, and why she would like to distort the history. Perhaps she feels that the story is more "beautiful" with those additions, or something.
Where did you find the symbols she uses? I couldn't find them or her page. Right now I'd say, that this teacher has the usual and unnecessary "bells and whistles" of many other treatments, some of them probably completely useless. But this is not uncommon in those circles. Every practitioner wants to be "speshul", also to promote their services, so they add all these things.
That is not to say, that you can't get the right and correct attunements from these kind of practitioners. You might get it right, or then not. If it's any comfort, I didn't get the impression of anything malevolent reading her page. So, I'd say that there's probably no harm in seeing this lady, to see what she has to offer.
My impression is, that those of us who are familiar with Reiki, and have completed some courses, still use Reiki from time to time. It's no cure for everything, and it's likely that it shouldn't be used in the case of an infectious disease, it might strengthen the bacteria/viruses/critters. But for overall well being and stress relief, I think Reiki is a good additions. I often use Reiki when the kids have trouble falling a sleep, or if they've fallen and hurt themselves. Works like a charm! :)
Where did you find the symbols she uses? I couldn't find them or her page. Right now I'd say, that this teacher has the usual and unnecessary "bells and whistles" of many other treatments, some of them probably completely useless. But this is not uncommon in those circles. Every practitioner wants to be "speshul", also to promote their services, so they add all these things.
That is not to say, that you can't get the right and correct attunements from these kind of practitioners. You might get it right, or then not. If it's any comfort, I didn't get the impression of anything malevolent reading her page. So, I'd say that there's probably no harm in seeing this lady, to see what she has to offer.
My impression is, that those of us who are familiar with Reiki, and have completed some courses, still use Reiki from time to time. It's no cure for everything, and it's likely that it shouldn't be used in the case of an infectious disease, it might strengthen the bacteria/viruses/critters. But for overall well being and stress relief, I think Reiki is a good additions. I often use Reiki when the kids have trouble falling a sleep, or if they've fallen and hurt themselves. Works like a charm! :)
Thanks for checking it out Aragorn :) I checked out some of them, and apart from the possible distortion when Andrew Robertson got involved they looked ok (in bold because I'm really not sure what the effect of his input was)
Yes I was abit confused about the Christ thing because I read on this thread that no one actually knows how Usui found the method, there's just theories so for her to say it so factually suggests blind belief osit.
I haven't seen the symbols but I asked if she used the traditional one and she said yes, so for all I know they maybe be totally wrong and she could believe that they are correct!
I think I'll hold on for a while and keep looking around. I was also wary that it may mask symptoms that would otherwise indicate serious issues, I spoke with my driving instructor today who does reiki on his arthritis, and it reminded me of how medicine today treats the symptoms but not the cause. That's interesting about reiki increasing the bacteria, do you know why this happens?
Yes I was abit confused about the Christ thing because I read on this thread that no one actually knows how Usui found the method, there's just theories so for her to say it so factually suggests blind belief osit.
I haven't seen the symbols but I asked if she used the traditional one and she said yes, so for all I know they maybe be totally wrong and she could believe that they are correct!
I think I'll hold on for a while and keep looking around. I was also wary that it may mask symptoms that would otherwise indicate serious issues, I spoke with my driving instructor today who does reiki on his arthritis, and it reminded me of how medicine today treats the symptoms but not the cause. That's interesting about reiki increasing the bacteria, do you know why this happens?
Thorn said:
I guess, if it does happen, it is because reiki is thought to be a kind of life energy that is strengthening to all forms of life. One would imagine it would be intelligent enough to not work directly against the intent of the user, but we never know when using such stuff.
As far as my experience goes, since getting attuned (twice-the first woman was a clown), I've never noticed anything but a mild placebo when doing it on myself, and it's not all that great. However I've done it a few times on the ankles/feet of my friend with osteoporosis, my hands get very hot and she finds it soothing. My mother has also felt it and animals seem to somewhat, so it seems to have some beneficial effects when used on others. But you certainly don't become some kind of wizard ;).
Zadius Sky
The Living Force
Thorn said:
Arthur Robertson got it in his head to add new symbols to the original system. His ideas eventually led to the development of many different Reiki systems (many of them are trademarked), including William Rand's systems. It's also from this that many New Age techniques and other forms of "energy work" were later introduced to the original system, encouragingly so. It's quite a mess.
So, I tend to beware of that lineage and would determine what exactly the teacher of that lineage teaches.
Aragorn said:
Yeah, that "story" appears to be based on Takata's "story", which can be read in full on James Deacon's website: _http://www.aetw.org/reiki_takata_hi_story.htm
Check out Deacon's website and our thread on Reiki History for more information on the history as well the symbols.
I wasn't expecting magic harry potter style 
Did you notice after your first attunement that nothing was happening then?I contacted a local Reiki practitioner to see what her lineage is, and this is what she sent me:
Dr. Mikao Usui
Dr. Chujiro
Mrs. Hawayo Takata
Phyllis Lei Furumoto
William L. Rand
Anne Schlecton
Florence Leduc
Helene Coppens
Melody Smith
Patricia Turner
Russ Littau
Bettina M. McGillivray
Jenn Waronek
Am I right in thinking that the lineage got corrupted, so to speak, after William L. Rand?
Dr. Mikao Usui
Dr. Chujiro
Mrs. Hawayo Takata
Phyllis Lei Furumoto
William L. Rand
Anne Schlecton
Florence Leduc
Helene Coppens
Melody Smith
Patricia Turner
Russ Littau
Bettina M. McGillivray
Jenn Waronek
Am I right in thinking that the lineage got corrupted, so to speak, after William L. Rand?
Zadius Sky
The Living Force
Meechel17 said:
Unfortunately, yeah. He's questionable. He believed that all Reiki systems are just as effective and each just has a "different" energy. A concept of a "corrupted energy" may not even exist, not just for him, but for many who practiced Reiki.
At some point after Rand became a Reiki Master in 1989, he began experimenting with non-Usui Reiki symbols, given to him from other Reiki masters, and his students were working with him and with those symbols. In other words, he decided to play around with other symbols and "energies" rather than staying with Takata's system to help people. He also taught his own version of Usui Tibetan that he "adopted" from Robertson (the latter refers to Rand as a "thief"). He also taught his own interpretation of Sai Baba Reiki (from Kathleen Milner, who later sued him in 1995).
Then, around that time, he created Karuna Reiki system and trademarked (one would have to be a Reiki Master to start taking his Karuna classes). Then, in January 2014 (pretty recent!), he created Holy Fire Reiki, out of the blue, which he decided to add to all of his Reiki and Karuna classes (the reason being is that it is "more refined" than Usui Reiki). You won't see his "regular" Reiki classes anymore after that. However, I guess that I could say to watch for the timeline - maybe, just maybe, he taught proper Reiki classes in the early 90s (if one of the masters is on the lineage for that time period), but I would like to see his old manuals to see what was being taught and what symbols he used at that time. From my understanding, he still uses the original symbols, but they are included with the other symbols.
Also, not only he played with/uses different symbols, he also added "techniques" to his standard Reiki class, such as chakra cleansing, "beaming", scanning, meditation, etc.
Nowadays, I'm seeing more "Rand lineages" than Stein. I asked casually one practitioner why she chose Rand and she answered with him being more "respectable and trustworthy" and he presented more "cool stuffs". The other one said that his system has "a beautiful energy" and she was "drawn" to it.
Zadius Sky
The Living Force
Ruth said:
Just to note that among the list above - Mary Alexandra McFayden doesn't teach Reiki anymore. She disappeared in 2011:
_http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/reiki-masters-disappearance-leaves-friends-searc-1/nRkkL/
Satya Sai Baba est très connu, j'ai lu tous les livres qui parlent de Lui en Français et j'ai connu plusieurs personnes qui l'ont rencontré dans son Ashram en Inde... J'ai encore des photos de Lui dont une dans ma voiture... Mais il est décédé maintenant 24 avril 2011, Puttaparthi, Inde... _http://www.sathyasai.org/
Voici un lien qui parle du SAI BABA REIKI
_http://www.threshold.ca/reiki/Western-Styles-of-Reiki.html
Satya Sai Baba is well known, I read all the books about him in French and I have known several people who met him in his Ashram in India ... I still have pictures of him with a in my car ... but now he died April 24, 2011, Puttaparthi, India ... _http://www.sathyasai.org/
Here's a link that talks about Sai Baba REIKI
_http://www.threshold.ca/reiki/Western-Styles-of-Reiki.html
Voici un lien qui parle du SAI BABA REIKI
_http://www.threshold.ca/reiki/Western-Styles-of-Reiki.html
Satya Sai Baba is well known, I read all the books about him in French and I have known several people who met him in his Ashram in India ... I still have pictures of him with a in my car ... but now he died April 24, 2011, Puttaparthi, India ... _http://www.sathyasai.org/
Here's a link that talks about Sai Baba REIKI
_http://www.threshold.ca/reiki/Western-Styles-of-Reiki.html
